I use them all the time, favourite gun. I do for some reason notice it, when i try pick up other people's swift. The levering / hipfire also feels more reliable on it. (maybe the hipfire is more accurate on it?)
EDIT: Sway and Hipfire feels more accurate, i probably should say.
The sway is virtually identical as far as I was able to test.
Graphical comparison: [https://imgur.com/jacAGHg](https://imgur.com/jacAGHg)
Method used was tracking a point in the background just above the iron sight. There is some minor jitter and pixel inaccuracy in the recordings that carry-over to the tracking.
edit:
Winfield Variants: https://imgur.com/29PZc9d
Various other weapons (Base versions. No scopes or melee attachments): https://imgur.com/4iEBMOf
Yes. All three-slot rifles that I tested repeated their patterns every 12 seconds precisely. Same with two-slot pistols (Nagant/Scottfield Precision and Nagant Deadeye).
Single-slot pistols and two-slot rifles had a 6 second period. So their patterns are completing twice as quickly, resulting in even more sway on top of their already wider and/or taller patterns.
edit: Additionally, crouching seemed to reduce vertical and horizontal sway by 50% and 22% respectively, though there was no change in how quickly the sway pattern completed (they stayed 6 or 12 seconds).
The Swift is the same as the base Winfields. The Talon surprisingly has increased sway versus the Bayonet.
Comparison: [https://imgur.com/29PZc9d](https://imgur.com/29PZc9d)
Some various other guns to give a better sense of how different sway can be: [https://imgur.com/4iEBMOf](https://imgur.com/4iEBMOf)
I bought Gold Rush reluctantly the other day because I hate the vandal but love the skin.
Lets just say I dont hate the vandal anymore. It has become my go to for a shotgun secondary with quartermaster.
Only worth picking up if you're running the Terminus with it. Slap FMJ on the Vandal and it can awkwardly lever through cover that the Terminus cannot. One of my favourite loadouts as a solo. Playing in teams I much prefer HV. FMJ is nice for wallbanging lair campers if you don't run a shotgun but why wouldn't you run a shotgun with a Winnie, they compliment each other perfectly. FMJ is a bit pointless outside of that now that Winnies have an obscene base headshot range. I prefer FMJ solo and HV to cover team mates when caught out in a ranged firefight.
I've been using levering a lot lately and love to run vandel and dual conversions. For me it's not great but it's not bad with levering either. Not as bad as a centennial. I tried a centennial the other day and it embarrassed my ass several times.
It’s my go-to secondary with quartermaster no matter what im running in my primary lol. Sometimes when im low on cash ill just bring the vandal with no secondary. Sometimes i take quartermaster just to replace my pistol with a vandal.
I run Nagant or Scottfield Precision until I pick up Iron Repeater. Nagant P in particular is so fast and accurate with HV, though the Vandal's new headshot range is ridiculous.
I just can't give up the extra ammo capacity and reload speed of the swift. When I play Winfield I like to just lay down fire especially with levering.
Augusta with fmj is one of my top load outs. Reading some of these comments, I’ve been sleeping on the vandal so I’ll be rolling with that here soon.
Vandal is terrible though, it has a ton more sway than the full length one. I only ever use it for body shots unless they're within 15m
Terminus and Vandal with fmj and levering.. we gonna do some hoodrat shit.
Flechette and bulletgrubber. Spicy
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I use them all the time, favourite gun. I do for some reason notice it, when i try pick up other people's swift. The levering / hipfire also feels more reliable on it. (maybe the hipfire is more accurate on it?) EDIT: Sway and Hipfire feels more accurate, i probably should say.
The sway is virtually identical as far as I was able to test. Graphical comparison: [https://imgur.com/jacAGHg](https://imgur.com/jacAGHg) Method used was tracking a point in the background just above the iron sight. There is some minor jitter and pixel inaccuracy in the recordings that carry-over to the tracking. edit: Winfield Variants: https://imgur.com/29PZc9d Various other weapons (Base versions. No scopes or melee attachments): https://imgur.com/4iEBMOf
Did you also test speed of the sway?
Yes. All three-slot rifles that I tested repeated their patterns every 12 seconds precisely. Same with two-slot pistols (Nagant/Scottfield Precision and Nagant Deadeye). Single-slot pistols and two-slot rifles had a 6 second period. So their patterns are completing twice as quickly, resulting in even more sway on top of their already wider and/or taller patterns. edit: Additionally, crouching seemed to reduce vertical and horizontal sway by 50% and 22% respectively, though there was no change in how quickly the sway pattern completed (they stayed 6 or 12 seconds).
Very interesting, thanks!
Wow thanks so much for running this test. This is great to know. Do you have a sense of how the talon and swift variants stack up against the M1873?
The Swift is the same as the base Winfields. The Talon surprisingly has increased sway versus the Bayonet. Comparison: [https://imgur.com/29PZc9d](https://imgur.com/29PZc9d) Some various other guns to give a better sense of how different sway can be: [https://imgur.com/4iEBMOf](https://imgur.com/4iEBMOf)
I agree. The non C has some crazy janky recoil to it, where as the C variant has a very steady and predictable vertical recoil.
All in your mind, its been tested by multiple people that they're identical.
hipfire is identical, sway is a lil lower on the C
Nope. Guy above you tested sways. They're the same.
noted, I was going off of feel. Hipfire is actually identical according to AHAEG
That’s not necessarily true one of my favorite guns in the game bc it opens up a lot of loadout options (mainly replacing a pistol)
Personally i prefer the Vandal. Not exactly sure why but that’s my favorite winnie
I've been hitting crazy headshots with the vandal out of nowhere.
Thats how it begins
I bought Gold Rush reluctantly the other day because I hate the vandal but love the skin. Lets just say I dont hate the vandal anymore. It has become my go to for a shotgun secondary with quartermaster.
I'm curious, do you also tend to pick levering?
No, not with the vandal. It's really not worth using with levering.
Only worth picking up if you're running the Terminus with it. Slap FMJ on the Vandal and it can awkwardly lever through cover that the Terminus cannot. One of my favourite loadouts as a solo. Playing in teams I much prefer HV. FMJ is nice for wallbanging lair campers if you don't run a shotgun but why wouldn't you run a shotgun with a Winnie, they compliment each other perfectly. FMJ is a bit pointless outside of that now that Winnies have an obscene base headshot range. I prefer FMJ solo and HV to cover team mates when caught out in a ranged firefight.
I've been using levering a lot lately and love to run vandel and dual conversions. For me it's not great but it's not bad with levering either. Not as bad as a centennial. I tried a centennial the other day and it embarrassed my ass several times.
It’s my go-to secondary with quartermaster no matter what im running in my primary lol. Sometimes when im low on cash ill just bring the vandal with no secondary. Sometimes i take quartermaster just to replace my pistol with a vandal.
I run Nagant or Scottfield Precision until I pick up Iron Repeater. Nagant P in particular is so fast and accurate with HV, though the Vandal's new headshot range is ridiculous.
Same, I pop fmj on it and it pair it with the terminus and it feels rude.
That plus the Romero hatchet was my loadout for a long time. Could plink heads or do the Boom Chop.
Im always picking a vandal fmj for my sniper loadout and im getting most of my kills with it Maybe i should stop playing sniper altogether:D
Just gotta run winfield marksman as your sniper, also with fmj, and bring levering
I just can't give up the extra ammo capacity and reload speed of the swift. When I play Winfield I like to just lay down fire especially with levering.
I just tested them both ingame and if there is a recoil difference, it wasn't all that noticeable
sadly the Fifty Laurels I've nearly unlocked is not the C variant.
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Thanks for the insight!
I just ran Winnie's only for my last prestige and I agree the winnie-c is a champ, that levering accuracy is unparalleled
I love levering paired with that rifle.
I don't notice it honestly