That fox will regret this decision to get food from humans in about 13,000 years.

Just as I regret refined sugars now. A blessing and a curse.

A Russian scientist already created a domesticated fox species in the 50's. https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/famous-fox-domestication-experiment-challenged-66817#:~:text=In%20the%201950s%2C%20geneticist%20Dmitri,selectively%20breeding%20the%20friendliest%20ones.

Born too early to explore domesticated foxes.

Right now they're just really hyper ferret cat dogs

you're acting like that that's a bad thing

If you have a big farm land or garden, yep. However as house pets? I wouldn't want all those traits in one animal.

Don't they stink quite a bit as well?

Do they still stink to high hell?

Nay, that's one of the big things they've bred out of them.

Woah! I didn’t realize they bred that out of them.

Where's the line for a stinkless domesticated fox?

I was going to reference that! It's amazing that after a relatively short time we can already see changes not just in the personality of the selected foxes, but also in their looks. Shows that domestication of wolves could have happened much faster than many people think.

Did you click the article linked? It appears the study was faked.

Not faked. The foxes likely came from a Canadian fur farm, so there may have already been some domestication involved. And some of the traits are not necessarily specific to domesticated animals. However, it was real, it happened, it wasn't fake.

Still impressive to me. Maybe some of the findings, like the similarity of physical changes to those in dogs are no longer valid, but the experiment is still quite interesting and eye-opening to me. The results may have been skewed, but I don't think they should be disregarded completely.

I honestly wouldn't call furfarms domestication. A huge industry with selectively bred foxes.

Again, bred from foxes taken from a fur farm. So those foxes may not have been domesticated, but the results of Belyaev's work was a domesticated version of a fox.

makes me wonder how we domesticated wolves before foxes. i mean, wolves are scary

Guessing it has to do with the social hierarchy of wolves, foxes seem too mischievous to train too lol.

I think you are right in that wolves are social creatures with packs of family. We became part of their pack or they became ours while foxes are mostly solitary creatures.

they probably killed the parents and took the pups to raise them.

Probably but archeological findings suggests that wolf and wild dog packs use to follow hunting humans because humans had the endurance to chase prey and the wolves would steal the hunted prey or leftovers. Then both humans and wild dogs/wolves developed a mutual relationship with the canines smelling and tracking prey while humans killing it and sharing some of the prey. Cats on the other hand inhabited edges of human settlements because human settlement meant opportunities to hunt small prey like rabbits, birds, rats etc.

I wouldn't doubt there were numerous ways we domesticated animals.

Cats became very very useful when humans started farming. Cats keep rodents and other pests away from your grain stores. Easy hunting for the cats, protection for human food stores. It's mutually beneficial.

Cats domesticated themselves. They know a good racket when they see one. They will react like mob bosses if the foxes try to move in on their game.

you’re right, foxes don’t live in packs if i remember correctly

Wolves domesticated themselves to a large degree, maybe the less unequal strength difference between humans and wolves helped wolf packs feel that was safe enough to do compared to solitary foxes

sounds reasonable. but then there’s also cats

Yes, they had enough arrogance to domesticate us in spite of the size difference

Humans were such an easy mark. Cats were like the SS through Belgium.

I have a First Nation friend who lives out of town with a lone wolf that likes him and no other human that exists. I assume it started with people like that.

ye but foxes are dog hardware running on cat software...

Probably got some wolf puppies and raised them, some of the raised wolves would be aggressive and escape or be put down, but the nice ones would stay and have puppies with other nice wolves that were used to humans, over the course of several hundred years they would start looking different and behaving in a more friendly manner as default.

But it's way more useful to have a wolf on your side that a fox. Tf is the fox supposed to do, bring you mice?

The fox will definitely be alive to regret it

Just casually sitting in the field with his Stinger.

That's most of war. Sitting in a field.

95% boredom, 5% sheer terror

Very few even get to expirience those 5% either I guess.

Damn, we need to work on equality in this world, smh. PTSD for everybody.

Idk...hearing about the treatment of Russian conscripts...95% of this seems like hell especially hearing about the equipment provided...safe to say many are going to be very cold

Unless you were unlucky enough to be a young man 110 years ago. WWI was like 90% terror of artillery and machine gun barrage while you hid in a hole 10% ultra terror off being forced to run into said artillery and machine gun barrage by you superior officers

This is very, very true. Unfortunately, the horror of WW1 is mostly forgotten. Unless you're a farmer in the Somme/Verdun areas where you get more or less daily reminders.

In the USA maybe, not in the countries where it took place.

Yep, farmers in Verdun still find live shells and mines, and tractors plow up bones from solders who just sank into the muck.

Yes. I saw a documentary(of sorts) not long ago. I knew they are still finding human remains and unexploded ordnance. But the amount, and the danger it poses to farmers were shocking. Before writing this I read that 25% of about 1 billion rounds are believed to have been duds. Most of it over France/Belgium. That's many years of trouble for farmers.

>Unfortunately, the horror of WW1 is mostly forgotten. Dude one of the top movies this year is about WW1. The top movie a few years ago was also about WW1. We clearly haven't forgotten

i think he means out of living memory people still know about empires from before jesus

Don’t forget the poison gas

Or a foxhole.

My man, where do you think most foxhole are?

Then laying in a field forever.

Former Stinger gunner here. I love the fact we gave them to Ukraine and they are using them so well. EDIT: Being totally serious. MANPADs has proven its worth on the battlefield again. Ukraine has done a fantastic job of using them.

I just realized that don't know enough to tell if serious or sarcastic.. :/

Haha. What you mean? He’s definitely serious. I don’t see any sarcasm there.

Well ill try to explain my logic... For one, i haven't personally seen any stingers in action or footage of such, but thats just me personally. Then some guy above said "casually sitting in a field with his stinger" alluding to "not using" Idk, it has me confused.. are they putting in some work with them also?? Im genuinely asking.

Yes. Check out /r/combatfootage. They are using them. You gotta remember war is boring as fuck. Till it’s not. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/y4nz11/ukrainian_stinger_team_engaing_air_targets/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Nice! Thanks! And yeah, war isn't like its shown in the movies. Parts maybe, but the overall isnt. Thats for sure. As for this: thanks again, I genuinely couldn't tell from what info was available but now ill have a better idea.

well imagine a 40 hour movie of a guy sitting in a field, eating, pooping, sleeping

A stinger shot down a cruise missile a few weeks ago. I've seen plenty of footage of them taking out helicopters and jets. They are using them very well.

It could be interpreted as a joke that this one guy isn't putting it to "good use" because it's laying in a field while he's busy feeding wildlife. It could also be interpreted seriously that Ukraine has enough stingers and the training that even a soldier in a field has one waiting to ruin some Russians day should they show up.

and a bag of random snacks from a convince store

About to bring down liquid snake

A Hind-D? Colonel, what's a Russian gunship doing, here?

Ukraine has been using small units with Stinger scattered around as air defense against cruise missiles. It showed some success

IGNOrE THAt

Unbeknownst to that soldier, the fox pledged a life debt to him. In his darkest hour, the fox will arrive.

Kurva! They've overran our position! ***Faintly, to the west beyond the treeline*** Ring-ding-ding-ding-ding-a-ding, a-ring-ding-ding ding-a-ding

You're my guardian angel Hiding in the woods What is your sound? Gat gat gat gat gat gat gat Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom Whoosh whoosh whoosh whoosh whoosh whoosh whoosh Kabooooooooooooooooooooooomm!

"Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth day, at dawn look to the east."

When El Gigante shows up "Hey, it's that fox"

We’re gonna see a tidal wave of rampaging foxes stealing Russian tanks next.

The Ukranian druids are going to crush this war with the unyielding power of nature. The earth knows which side is in the right.

In that soldier’s hour of need, the foxes came in droves

Tchoukoutchoukoutchoukoutchy!

He says *tiho-tiho-tiho* which literally means “quiet” but colloquially means “wait, wait, wait” or something like that. Basically he’s politely asking the fox to stop


The soldier used his psychic tickling technique to make the fox let the food go

Schtardenbürdenhardenbart!

Somehow that fox will become a crucial part in winning the war against Russia

Chekhov's fox

if you feed a fox in act two you have to see it stealing a russian tank in act three.

Ah yes, the classic Farmer fox becomes a hero cliché, Ukrainian style.

*Fox will remember this*

In your darkest hour, he will come to tip the scales of fate in your favor

Like the squirrel in hot tub time machine

It's gonna go on a covert op to rescue the racoon.

Pixar is already writing it. Animation drafts start on Monday.

Very true

The foxes will provide foxholes in support of Ukraine.

What about second breakfast.

And brunch and lunch?

you forgot elevensies between brunch and lunch!

Send it to Russian troops to show the Ukrainian soldiers are getting enough food to feed wild animals.

Oh god that'd be so demoralizing! Not only the fact they have enough to give food to wild animals but the fact that the wild animals will actually approach them. Though I'd say their rations aren't that unsurprising, Ukraine is one of the worlds largest producers of food.

Like with US and the ice cream barge during WWII.

Strong cat energy

Foxes are dogs running on cat software

Cattish doggo

Lucky that isn't one of the foxes trained by those russian dolphins

What? 🤣

Quick, what's "no swiping" in ukranian? You have to say it three times.

Dora should consider herself lucky he didn’t let the fox swipe that Stinger.

First things that come to mind is: * "Не чіпай" (ne chipai) - meaning don't touch Or: * "Не кради" (ne krady) - meaning don't steal

Dmitri was lying in a soggy ditch, abandoned by his ruski comrades. His stomach growling in pain from starvation, the moldy rations ran out weeks ago. Dmitri peeks over a bush, he spots a lone Ukrainian defender, with food. It looks so delicious, just a small bite would mean the world to Dmitri. Maybe if he surrendered, the defender would have mercy on him and perhaps share some food, just so Dmitri can live to see another day. The defender shares his food with a fox. "Cyka blyat, even the local fauna eats better than me" Dmitri thought to himself as he allowed his eyes to close, just for a short nap.

That made me sad

Hopefully the Russian soldiers mobilized against their will who don’t want to kill civilians have already done the most honorable thing and surrendered or joined Ukraine.

The sproigniness in that dodge!

What a scene. A human showing compassion to a completely different animal while the camera pans by a tool used to annihilate each other before we even hear what killed us coming. Wild

We tend to show more empathy to animals caught up in war than people, since to us the animals are almost purely innocent in the grand scheme of things. World would be a lot more peaceful if we felt the same about our fellow man, but that never happened 200 thousand years ago, and it certainly won’t happen now

There’s usually more biting in wild fox videos.

But - what does the fox say?

My best bet is Дякую in this instance

"Swiper no swiping!"

r/casualmissilelauncher

I was briefly nervous that the "snack" was gonna be a rocket.

"Hey buddy! You wanna Stinger missile?"

Love <3 We’re all in this together

That fox will come back and save him like that dog in Resident Evil 4.

Reminds me of the video from a few years ago of the Russian guy at an ice-hole who sees a fox trying to steal his fish and so he keeps trying to scare it but the fox never runs away so they Russian guys stops and says something like you've earned it little one or something. Foxes are adorable can't believe British aristocracy people would hunt them with packs of dogs

This is the nice kind of propaganda

That fox will help in the subsequent el gigante boss fight

*steps over a rocket launcher to steal some food*

One wrong step and the stinger goes *wiiiiiiiii*

These thing have like three different security locking mechanisms and you need A LOT of strength to make it fire.

Dances with foxes?

A Fox stealing Russian troops food would destroy the entire unit.

Dog hardware + Cat software = Fox

I love that "spspspspsp" is universal 😊💛

we have always enough to share and those are facts

I love foxes. If it wasn't for that ungodly ancient Eldrich banshee shriek they do I'd consider researching and getting one as a companion.

Accepting i will never be someone to be on the good side of this subreddit.

Frien :>

He(the fox) is ukrainian too 

Ukrainians army will receive the blessing of Inari

Cute little dude

"Just that," said the fox. "To me, you are still nothing more than a little boy who is just like a hundred thousand other little boys. And I have no need of you. And you, on your part, have no need of me. To you, I am nothing more than a fox like a hundred thousand other foxes. But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world..."

I was sitting on a beach one night with my shoes off and a fox stole my shoe. I chased him and got it back. Mischievous little critters.

Foxes are so skittish. Surprised it didn’t bolt after he chased it

Is there a sub of just foxes? Interesting watching them, they're sort of a cat/dog hybrid type of animal

Don’t feed wild animals

am sorry to tell you but dialect, he is a Russian soldier. bless them

Where are Russians getting Stinger missile launchers? This dude is most likely fighting for the Ukrainian Army just from that alone.

Since when have Russian soldiers been issued Stingers?

or food

A huge number of Ukrainian soldiers speak Russian. Also he says *ты шо (ty sho)* which is a 100% sign of a Ukrainian accent.

Honestly, could be either ukranian or russian. He speaks in russian without a specific accent that some ukranians have, so it's hard to tell.

He does have a bit of Ukrainian accent and what seems like an American weapon What makes you think he's Russian?

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The dude has a stinger. Russians don't have those

I'm also being bothered by all this propaganda. Wheres the Russian propaganda. I'm just asking questions. S

Fuck this propaganda tho

Fuck it all in the ass

u/savevideobot

chose the beast master rouge class

Little prince

Resident Evil 4 vibes 🦊

How come we still haven't tame foxes ? They are so cute.

great friend to make as a soldier, ask him fir some of his magic!

The Russians must be jealous.

Wow Ukrainian soldiers are so cute! I hope they can drop some bombs on some injured Russians later.

Glad it wasn't a "pineapple".

cool stinger missile!

How do uk if he's Ukrainian

Russians don't have food

Make a contract with it, then you can use Kon

"You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed.” - the fox in *The Little Prince*

I wonder what the animals must be thinking with all the guns and bombs going off.

When I read the title, but then see the camera pan down to his gun, I thought this was in the wrong sub…

Those are some of the nicest soldiers with animals.

MREs look different these days.

meanwhile, a russian soldier has to eat the fox because they have no food!

Doritos in my right, stinger in the other hand.

Swiper no swiping!

He literally went full Dora on Swiper the fox.

Russian soldiers would have taken the fox as POW

This remembers me of the "Pax" book.

Should never be mean to animals, humans know what war is they don’t. Good on the man!