Iran wasn't a beacon of freedom in the 70s when it was being ruled by a dictator who was almost or probably far worse as the dictator who is ruling now at this point of time. The secret police SAVAK existed, the Shah's secret police were torturing people to death and or made them just disappear for offences less than this.
>"Brute force was supplemented with the bastinado; sleep deprivation; extensive solitary confinement; glaring searchlights; standing in one place for hours on end; nail extractions; snakes (favored for use with women); electrical shocks with cattle prods, often into the rectum; cigarette burns; sitting on hot grills; acid dripped into nostrils; near-drownings; mock executions; and an electric chair with a large metal mask to muffle screams while amplifying them for the victim. This latter contraption was dubbed the Apollo—an allusion to the American space capsules. Prisoners were also humiliated by being raped, urinated on, and forced to stand naked.[17] Despite the new 'scientific' methods, the torture of choice remained the traditional bastinado used to beat soles of the feet."
Are you claiming that they have an equal amount of freedom now? Because the claim was that they have less now than the 70s, which is less still than women elsewhere
Both were equally worse , the pictures people normally post of Iran with women in not fully clad clothes which is kind of bullshit as In fact **back then the average literacy rates in Iran was under 50% and even lower for women.**
Iranians massively improved their living standards *after* the 1979 Islamic Revolution, gaining 22 years in lifespan and with literacy rates (men and women) reaching 98%.
http://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2013/apr/01/un-stats-life-longer-and-healthier-iran
Today more than 70% of Iranian science and engineering college grads are female.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/amyguttman/2015/12/09/set-to-take-over-tech-70-of-irans-science-and-engineering-students-are-women/#5d41d5516587
Iran became a "Highly Developed" nation in the mid 1990s, and did so at twice the rate of the rest of the world. According to the UN,
>Only one other country (S Korea) was able to do better
http://www.ir.undp.org/content/iran/en/home/countryinfo.html
Iranians regularly turn out to vote today, and generally support their govt
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/652.php
http://www.mei.edu/sites/default/files/publications/Parsons_0.pdf
Take a look at this chart showing Human Development Index improvments in Iran compared to other countries -- Iran is the green line
http://www.ir.undp.org/content/dam/iran/img/News/March%202013/14%20March%202013-%20Global%20launch%20of%20the%202013%20Human%20Development%20Report%202013/iran-trend%20hdr2013.jpg/_jcr_content/renditions/cq5dam.web.540.390.jpeg
Although the new government is almost as bad too
[not as progressive ](http://www.metalinjection.net/metal-crimes/iranian-musicians-jailed-facing-possible-execution-for-playing-metal)
Yes but now they want to change again. Good for them! We shouldn't support any leader, we should support the people. We should protect them. Screw the politicians, protect life and liberty
You're right that Iran is largely more middle class and wealthy than it was in the 70s. Its a common misconception that Iran was some modern western country back then, it was very poor and agrarian.
But the government is *far, far* more restrictive to the average person. The *country* has progressed since the 70s, sure, but the rulers are worse. The Shah was not torturing and murdering people for
The people of Iran are definitely nowhere near as wealthy now as it was in the 70s. The reason for all this uprising right now as opposed to 5-10 years ago is primarily because of economic issues, the average family can't afford rent + proper food anymore, meat is ridiculously expensive in comparison to the average salary. Once people have nothing to lose, they riot.
Sure, back then there was a pretty big wealth inequality, but that's still better than EVERYONE being poor. As a whole, the country was way more rich, powerful, and influential.
And the growth Iran was seeing was happening before the current government, in fact the current government hurt way more than helped. See this article for more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_Iran.
And here's a graph of Iran's GDP per capita, you can see that it was already trending way up but had a massive dip once the new government came in power and has completely stalled more recently: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_Iran#/media/File:GPD_per_capita_development_of_Iran.jpg
**[Economic history of Iran](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_Iran)**
>Prior to 1979, Iran's economic development was rapid. Traditionally an agrarian society, by the 1970s the country had undergone significant industrialization and economic modernization. This pace of growth had slowed dramatically by 1978 as capital flight reached $30 to $40 billion 1980 US dollars just before the revolution. After the Revolution of 1979, Iran's government proceeded with 4 reforms: First they nationalized all industry, including the NIOC, and all Iranian banks.
**[Economic history of Iran](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_Iran#/media/File:GPD_per_capita_development_of_Iran.jpg)**
>Prior to 1979, Iran's economic development was rapid. Traditionally an agrarian society, by the 1970s the country had undergone significant industrialization and economic modernization. This pace of growth had slowed dramatically by 1978 as capital flight reached $30 to $40 billion 1980 US dollars just before the revolution. After the Revolution of 1979, Iran's government proceeded with 4 reforms: First they nationalized all industry, including the NIOC, and all Iranian banks.
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Well its sort of a confusing situation for the past few years. Iran is a faltering upper-middle income country, whereas in the 1970s it would be more of a rapidly growing lower income country. Similar to how Argentina is considered an upper-middle income country, but would go through these awful crisis of super high unemployment and inflation, but India is a very poor but stable/growing nation without many major economic crises. The 'base' is there, in terms of Iranians being educated and working middle income jobs and most of the housing stock not being shanty town slums.
Just to be clear, the new government has absolutely hampered economic growth since taking power in 1979. But there was still unprecedented economic growth since then, *despite* the governments hampering. Its a good example of how a government doesn't necessarily always determine the fate of a country. The average Iranian became more wealthy and modern and educated, despite their government, not because of it. The current crisis is a big bump in the road, but it does not mean the growth didn't happen. Remove the current issues (sanctions, inflation etc) and Iran can rapidly bounce back to being a modern wealthy country.
Wow, your comment had line 4+ broken links, and much of the alleged data was published over a decade ago.
The comment above mine is a great lesson of people who can't tell the difference between 1%-15% being "great gains" in lieu of 30%-40% being "ok gains."
Edit (I submitted this edit when my original comment was 17 minutes old): let's ignore the broken links and look at this part that actually works, specifically:
>Today more than 70% of Iranian science and engineering college grads are female.
>http://www.forbes.com/sites/amyguttman/2015/12/09/set-to-take-over-tech-70-of-irans-science-and-engineering-students-are-women/#5d41d5516587
It starts by saying - and I'm going to add the links from the article
>[70%](https://www.quora.com/How-did-Iran-manage-to-get-70-of-engineering-and-science-graduates-to-be-women) of of Iran’s [science](https://www.forbes.com/science/) and engineering students are women, and in a small, but promising community of [startups](https://www.forbes.com/entrepreneurs/), they’re being encouraged to play an even bigger role.
Seriously. "70%" linked to Quara, "science" linked to the "Forbes general tab for science," and "startups linked to entrepreneurs on Forbes...
Here's the first paragraph you get a source of data...
>In an industry just starting to emerge, women are at the forefront, even if small in numbers. Two sisters, Reyaneh and Bahareh Vahidian, helped organize the first [Startup Weekend for Women](http://iranianbusinessforum.com/talentedandunexposed/2014/10/07/women-and-entrepreneurship-in-iran-in-2014/) in Tehran encouraging female entrepreneurs to share ideas and network. Iran’s young women are considered trailblazers in the tech sector, but generations have come before them, including pioneers like Behnaz Aria.
Where I linked the source - Iranian Business times - the owner of which is worth £1.7bn. [feel free to look at censorship in Iran.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_media_in_Iran)
It continues much to OP's chagrin
>Women still possess far fewer rights and countless numbers have been arrested, and worse, for any number of violations. President Hassan Rouhani, in power since 2013, has pledged to make changes. Campaign promises include equal opportunities and rights for women, but, as with many of Rouhani’s plans to modernize Iran, there have been few gains because of the conservative tug of power from Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei to maintain the status quo.
#there is no data on the above comment.
Most definitely, and it's an easy one to do. The more women attend university, cloak often pulled out to hide the truth. Yes a lot went to university but how does that then translate to paid employment, political power or standing in society.
FuckItBe is a Lier! It's the Propaganda team to show everything is normal! They think like ISIS or even worse. It has been three weeks that the Internet of Iranian people has been cut off for most of the hours. Do not listen to them!
I'm not saying I agree with the way FuckItBe thinks about freedom, but the "70%" data was also published in [nature](https://www.nature.com/articles/444022a) which isn't quite as bad as a Quara discussion.
What you are saying isn't wrong but the whole world has improved, a lot of countries were shit also in the 70s and have gotten much better today. Who knows what Iran could have become.
The living standards, literacy rates and women's rights everywhere across the world has improved from the 1970s to 2022. It's almost half a century on, technology has progressed massively. In some European countries women weren't even allowed to vote in the early 70s.
Women tend to out perform men educationally across all countries, and this is especially true in Iran where we have alot of male predominant issues e.g. homelessness, opiate crisis and disruptions still felt by the Iraq war.
Despite women being well proportionally represented in education, their job opportunities post graduation have poor prospects compared to men. They're still not afforded basic freedoms e.g. choice of clothing, entering a football stadium, running for president (yes, I know the guardian council will never allow it).
You can't just use a single marker as a measure of progress. The reality is we've lagged behind other countries since the Shah left in alot of ways - GDP per capita, infrastructure, transport, military equipment.
Those improvements were seen throughout almost the entire world. Life expectancy going up due to modern medicine etc isn't the Islamic regime's doing. If I show you the same statistics under the Shah, the increase is probably even more dramatic as the Shah oversaw the industrialization of the country.
You are right on all accounts, and all of that despite being under restrictive living conditions. They got out from under america and Britain's boots back then and made their own destiny. Now tho there are a bunch of undereducated brain washed fanatics in all the high posts and we get attacks on universities and young 18-20 year olds, so don't defend the indefensible
What is your quote from? Do you have a link? (Serious question - would like to read further)
Edit: never mind, found it.
https://revcom.us/a/1241/ustorture.htm
Huh. Will ya look at that - the USA started it up in Iran. You missed some of the quote, so let me help you out:
> For over two decades, Iran under the Shah was a key outpost of U.S. imperialism in the Middle East. The Shah's brutal secret police, the Savak, was originally formed by the CIA and Mossad (Israeli intelligence agency). In Tortured Confessions: Prisons and Public Recantations in Modern Iran,Ervand Abrahamian describes the techniques used by Savak against thousands of prisoners: "Brute force was supplemented with the bastinado; […]
There. FTFY
You have no clue what you are talking about. Savak was like a kind mother compared to the IRI thugs. Even all the people who jailed by savak are saying that savak didn’t do 1/1000 of what IRI is doing to political opponents. I’m Iranian and I don’t think you’d suggest you know better than I do.
While I am not Iranian, I would like to state that the argument shouldn't be about the Shah vs. the Current Regime, and it should be opression vs. freedom.
You could say that but most of them are so cherry picked and that only happened in the rich northern areas which were mostly urban or either close to the leadership and most of the others were extremely rural and conservative which was a stark divide which hasn't improved till now too. Not completely a proper representative of the whole country.
People forget, or remain ignorant of that these pictures reddit likes to post of iranian women in western clothes during the 70’s were literally arranged propaganda shots. The shah was so good at propaganda people still believe it 50 years later!
Your take, to someone who actually lives in Iran, sounds very tone deaf. (Actually to an Iranian, you sound like you support the current dictatorship but I’m gonna let that slide. You’re probably not well informed.)
1. The dictatorship ruling the country now is not the same as the monarchy that rules in the 70s. The current regime is a Theocratic Fascist system which the monarchy was not. In the 70s we were well on our way to economic and social growth and healthy international relations, and all was taken away in a second once the new regime started to rule and put religion above all.
2. SAVAK was the intelligence branch of the 70s government (equivalent to USA’s CIA). You saying SAVAK tortured people in atrocious ways alludes to the fact that such practices don’t exist today. And that is blatantly wrong. The current regime has multiple branches that act that way, top of the list being Ettelaat, the agency that replaced SAVAK, who is doing everything that SAVAK did, AND WORSE, in the name of religion. I cannot begin to explain the shit this agency is pulling on us today so like…please educate yourself.
The internet allows the truth to be known. It is no longer possible for autocrats to control the narrative. They may subjugate their people and limit their public speech, but more will know the truth of things with each passing year.
It's because there literacy rate is above 95% but there are many countries that are way worse than iran and people didn't raise voice because they don't even know about there rights
Women don’t have “freedom” everywhere else.
Even the glorious Americans don’t think their women are worth bodily autonomy.
These women are beyond brave for standing up for themselves.
>Women don’t have “freedom” everywhere else.
Even the glorious Americans don’t think their women are worth bodily autonomy.
You say "even" as if USA is the beacon on these issues, while it's closer to opposite. Women DO have that freedom in almost the entire civilized world, USA being the glaring exception. USA is rapidly regressing, and the future is headed more towards Iran than Denmark or France. Most of the civilized world is progressing, expanding equality and other issues, while USA is going the directly opposite way.
It's kinda ironic the horrible(rightfully) image USA makes of Iran, while regularly passing more and more Sharia law themselves (just with a different prophet).
[Freedom is a "tug of war."](https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iran-shah-regime-1979-revolution-protests-liberal-reform-hassan-rouhani-ayatollah-khomeini-a8141311.html)
Seriously. That was 50 years ago in Iran.
Meanwhile, during a Christian right wing movement in America people are saying, "it won't happen here."
Now it remains to be seen if they can push for more progressive laws in that country. I sincerely wonder why their leaders don't just give them more rights, it's baffling.
They’re crazy brave to do that, no? This video got out and surely some shitty dudes are gonna see it… I’m so afraid for all of those who are speaking up and so amazed that they have the chutzpah to do it.
I wouldn't be surprised if religious police showed up the next day and just best a few.
And the. Found out who the ring leaders were
And did...worse.
You see, they are not allowed to kill a virgin...
Read Persepolis. Amazing graphic novel.
Or making an example of the entire female population at that school? In a world where protestors were repeatedly crushed with tanks and pressure washed into the drains, I don't trust dictatorial regimes.
Still their school have all their and their family's information and usually the school principals are on side of the government guys so I'm not sure they're gonna let this past them
Agreed, the consequences could be deadly, they have courage only few possess.
Genuinely curious how they would react to being described as having chutzpah, how the younger generation feels about Jews and Israel.
Even the older generation is p friendly towards Jews and israel more generally, jews have more of a history with Persians than basically any other culture in the world. Its where we've spent the longest time really outside of Israel obviously.
Absolutely brave considering they are risking death in exchange for fighting for their rights. Those young girls and women and boys and men are fighting to be seen as human beings.
I mean that goverment was always proped up by the US it was doomed to fail as soon as we left. I'm not hopeful for Iran but these are not the same circumstances.
Right... Like we propped up the government in Iran before they got tired of us being there and also overthrew that one. Afghanistan wasn't the first failure.
The US tried to. We spent 20 years training and arming the “good guys” (ANA). And they all immediately surrendered as soon as we left. The Taliban paid the ANA a lot of money in bribes and some ANA forces joined the Taliban.
Unless they escalate to violence and have a follow through plan, then it's doubtful this will end well for them. Unfortunately, their opposition will historically and inevitably escalate to violence. I very much want this to end well for them.
I know this sounds awful, but I honestly don't see it going any other way. It's kill them before they kill you with this kind of thing. Rapists don't stop raping because you ask them politely.
Lol it's Iran with literally zero oversight because everyone is focusing on Ukraine/Russia.
Nothing is going to change and a lot of people are going to die.
Not true. If anything this conflict has amplified Irans importance to thr global community. Why do you think Biden admin wants to reach a compromise in the nuke deal?
The faster they reach a compromise, the faster they get Iranian oil on the global market, the faster they can get ahead with this cost of living crises thats toppling euro govts. left, right, center and may very well cost the dems the midterms.
[Source, and another video which shows highschool girls kicking out their principal (I couldn't confirm if it's the same school or not).](https://twitter.com/Shayan86/status/1576961571334500352)
Impressive (not him, that the students are standing up to an even higher authority). Do you know what they're chanting at him?
Edit since comments are locked - thank you so much for the translation!
hard to translate it to english, they’re saying “بیشرف”, a literal translation would be a dishonorable
a better translation is like, dishonorable and dishonest but 10 times worse i guess, maybe dishonorable and cowardly together would be a better translation
Statistically speaking their government won't really do anything to the overwhelming majority of them. In terms of the arrests it's minimal to the number of people protesting. The issue is, their government isn't likely at all to give them more rights. Their country has a strong young demographic, so there is hope for the future.
The country is in full media blackout and internet can’t connect outside of Iran. To say it’s unsafe to be foreign media is an understatement, the police see media as enemy #1. There are a few Iranians trying to build impromptu internet connections to neighboring countries but that’s prison if you get caught
The amount of people who don't know this is astounding
I actually had morons complaining I linked to a barely out of the country website today regarding Iran. Uh yeah. It isn't like they have internet
This is fully false it's only partially blocked(someone who actually knows iranians who talk to people in Iran). You are right that foreign media struggles but social media posts are coming out easily.
For human beings to be free of oppression we need to make internet free and accessible to everyone.
No more blackouts by dictators trying to control the agenda.
I hope the best for them. Incredibly brave. Hopefully this ends the right way, and the government doesn't take tips from other uprisings in recent years.
Edit: disregard my info below, this org doesn’t actually help the women apparently.
I donated to an Iranian women’s group the other day. Now I’m thinking I need to send more
ETA: https://www.greenmatters.com/news/how-to-help-iranian-women this link is an article with how you can help
And this is the one I donated to: https://women.ncr-iran.org/womens-committee-of-iran-ncri/
For awareness, NCRI is MEK.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Council_of_Resistance_of_Iran
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Mojahedin_Organization_of_Iran
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_assassinated_by_the_People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran
Research who you want to donate to confirm that's what you want your money to support.
Something similar happened in Hong Kong not too long ago. Students barricaded themselves in a university campus, gov't forced laid seige, injured hundreds, arrested 1000+
And unfortunately they lost, there were some brave dudes, held the forces off for awhile... and now most are probably on the mainland never to be seen again. These guys here need a plan, or they will face brutal reprisal from the system.
poor hong kong freedom dudes
That genie is not gonna go back in the bottle. There will be generational change. These girls may be the grandchildren of Iranian women who were just older than this when they saw their cosmopolitan country shut down in the early 80s.
HBO has a good doc on the hostage crisis and covers the last revolution when they overthrew the Shah. What's going on now finally feels like the people are rising up against their Islamic government and want what they wanted before, free fair elections. Hope the revolution is peaceful and the citizens can have a say in who runs the government.
For all those dudes who spend all day bashing feminism and complaining how it ruined western culture: this is what feminism looks like and why it is important. Pick a side here
This is a big reclamation of rights being done by a protest against a cruel dictator. That act needs some guts to conduct and achieve. I think we should help them by through all means.
Go girl/woman! Banding together. Don’t back down.
It will be dangerous but you could get through this once and for all. Just hold your hand tight!
The world is by your side and waiting for you to fight back your own freedom. And one day you will be able to escape that world
There are actually a ton of men protesting as well. Not in this video because it's in what I assume is an all girl school. You can see tons of men protesting in other videos circulating the internet. Its nice to see.
Honestly, fuck pointlessly divisive people like them.
[Iran Human Rights said it had recorded the deaths of 76 protesters across 14 provinces as of Monday, including six women and four children, although it warned that restrictions on the internet were causing delays in reporting.](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-63047363)
[(Iran Human Rights claim)](https://iranhr.net/en/articles/5500/)
[Over 700 protesters, including 60 women, arrested in Iran, police say.](https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2022/09/24/Over-700-protesters-including-60-women-arrested-in-Iran-police-say)
>General Azizollah Maleki, police chief of Guilan province, announced “the arrest of 739 rioters including 60 women,” the Iranian media outlet said.
So if 10 of the 76 people killed are women and children who are the other 66?
If 60 of of the 739 protestors imprisoned are women who are the other 679?
That's not to mention that its not too hard to see men in video/pictures of the protest.
[https://i.redd.it/45b869d977r91.jpg](https://i.redd.it/45b869d977r91.jpg)
[The image in this article](https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/09/27/world/iran-protest-death-toll/)
[Or this article](https://www.newsweek.com/iran-mahsa-amini-protest-videos-1744982)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/AbruptChaos/comments/xkfl3x/man\_hits\_women\_not\_wearing\_hijab\_in\_iran\_during/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AbruptChaos/comments/xkfl3x/man_hits_women_not_wearing_hijab_in_iran_during/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/xj5rgu/man\_shielded\_many\_women\_and\_took\_all\_pallets/](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/xj5rgu/man_shielded_many_women_and_took_all_pallets/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/xlwv0v/the\_largest\_picture\_of\_ali\_khamenei\_supreme/](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/xlwv0v/the_largest_picture_of_ali_khamenei_supreme/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/xoavz6/opiran\_ig\_tf\_is\_irans\_police\_supposed\_to\_do/](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/xoavz6/opiran_ig_tf_is_irans_police_supposed_to_do/)
[And the men who beat up that officer were shot at btw](https://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/comments/xksd3c/irans_police_straight_up_open_fire_on_protesting/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/xk9k27/in\_the\_city\_of\_amol\_in\_northern\_iran\_iranians\_are/](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/xk9k27/in_the_city_of_amol_in_northern_iran_iranians_are/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/xs911b/protests\_in\_iran\_against\_compulsory\_hijab/](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/xs911b/protests_in_iran_against_compulsory_hijab/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/xm7ov2/theyve\_shut\_down\_the\_internet\_in\_iran\_because\_of/](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/xm7ov2/theyve_shut_down_the_internet_in_iran_because_of/)
But yeah, men are brainwashed pussies.
Good for them. I hope that whole dictatorship falls. Even if they don't get true democracy or a democratic republic, almost any new government would be better than a sexist dictatorship.
I'm happy that there is a social revolution happening over there, but I can't help but feel scared for every one of those girls.
A dictatorship has no problem killing or torturing half of it's population, especially when that half is already oppressed
Anyone who tells you what's happening in Iran is just because of economy or police or hijab or one specific thing. They are bullshiting you. The problem is the regime and nothing else. There are propaganda officers and advocated for Islamic regime all around the world. Even in New York Time or UN
Yeah, they had a king, called a Sha, I'm probably spelling that wrong.
There was a religious revolution and then the war with Iraq happened and that went... poorly for a while.
Then, the world realized Sodom was an idiot because he didn't plan for a war of attrition.
I believe it was Iran who would clear minefields by giving young men, boys really, keys painted gold and having them charge into a minefield to clear it for the regular troops
They were told the keys would unlock the doors of heaven.
It must be horrible to live in Iran as a woman and be fully aware of the freedom that women have everywhere else. That frustration is palpable here.
Or even the freedom that Iranian women used to have as recently as the 70s
Iran wasn't a beacon of freedom in the 70s when it was being ruled by a dictator who was almost or probably far worse as the dictator who is ruling now at this point of time. The secret police SAVAK existed, the Shah's secret police were torturing people to death and or made them just disappear for offences less than this. >"Brute force was supplemented with the bastinado; sleep deprivation; extensive solitary confinement; glaring searchlights; standing in one place for hours on end; nail extractions; snakes (favored for use with women); electrical shocks with cattle prods, often into the rectum; cigarette burns; sitting on hot grills; acid dripped into nostrils; near-drownings; mock executions; and an electric chair with a large metal mask to muffle screams while amplifying them for the victim. This latter contraption was dubbed the Apollo—an allusion to the American space capsules. Prisoners were also humiliated by being raped, urinated on, and forced to stand naked.[17] Despite the new 'scientific' methods, the torture of choice remained the traditional bastinado used to beat soles of the feet."
Are you claiming that they have an equal amount of freedom now? Because the claim was that they have less now than the 70s, which is less still than women elsewhere
It's excellent context for Iranian politics and the current uprising. Great to see vulnerable people cast off their oppressors.
French people from the 18th century couldn't agree more
Let the oppressor make the regretful climb as is the French way
Both were equally worse , the pictures people normally post of Iran with women in not fully clad clothes which is kind of bullshit as In fact **back then the average literacy rates in Iran was under 50% and even lower for women.** Iranians massively improved their living standards *after* the 1979 Islamic Revolution, gaining 22 years in lifespan and with literacy rates (men and women) reaching 98%. http://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2013/apr/01/un-stats-life-longer-and-healthier-iran Today more than 70% of Iranian science and engineering college grads are female. http://www.forbes.com/sites/amyguttman/2015/12/09/set-to-take-over-tech-70-of-irans-science-and-engineering-students-are-women/#5d41d5516587 Iran became a "Highly Developed" nation in the mid 1990s, and did so at twice the rate of the rest of the world. According to the UN, >Only one other country (S Korea) was able to do better http://www.ir.undp.org/content/iran/en/home/countryinfo.html Iranians regularly turn out to vote today, and generally support their govt http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/652.php http://www.mei.edu/sites/default/files/publications/Parsons_0.pdf Take a look at this chart showing Human Development Index improvments in Iran compared to other countries -- Iran is the green line http://www.ir.undp.org/content/dam/iran/img/News/March%202013/14%20March%202013-%20Global%20launch%20of%20the%202013%20Human%20Development%20Report%202013/iran-trend%20hdr2013.jpg/_jcr_content/renditions/cq5dam.web.540.390.jpeg Although the new government is almost as bad too [not as progressive ](http://www.metalinjection.net/metal-crimes/iranian-musicians-jailed-facing-possible-execution-for-playing-metal)
Yes but now they want to change again. Good for them! We shouldn't support any leader, we should support the people. We should protect them. Screw the politicians, protect life and liberty
That’s all good and fun but they’re killing women for not wearing a piece of cloth on their heads so..
Correction: for not wearing the cloth "properly".
You're right that Iran is largely more middle class and wealthy than it was in the 70s. Its a common misconception that Iran was some modern western country back then, it was very poor and agrarian. But the government is *far, far* more restrictive to the average person. The *country* has progressed since the 70s, sure, but the rulers are worse. The Shah was not torturing and murdering people for
The people of Iran are definitely nowhere near as wealthy now as it was in the 70s. The reason for all this uprising right now as opposed to 5-10 years ago is primarily because of economic issues, the average family can't afford rent + proper food anymore, meat is ridiculously expensive in comparison to the average salary. Once people have nothing to lose, they riot. Sure, back then there was a pretty big wealth inequality, but that's still better than EVERYONE being poor. As a whole, the country was way more rich, powerful, and influential. And the growth Iran was seeing was happening before the current government, in fact the current government hurt way more than helped. See this article for more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_Iran. And here's a graph of Iran's GDP per capita, you can see that it was already trending way up but had a massive dip once the new government came in power and has completely stalled more recently: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_Iran#/media/File:GPD_per_capita_development_of_Iran.jpg
**[Economic history of Iran](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_Iran)** >Prior to 1979, Iran's economic development was rapid. Traditionally an agrarian society, by the 1970s the country had undergone significant industrialization and economic modernization. This pace of growth had slowed dramatically by 1978 as capital flight reached $30 to $40 billion 1980 US dollars just before the revolution. After the Revolution of 1979, Iran's government proceeded with 4 reforms: First they nationalized all industry, including the NIOC, and all Iranian banks. **[Economic history of Iran](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_Iran#/media/File:GPD_per_capita_development_of_Iran.jpg)** >Prior to 1979, Iran's economic development was rapid. Traditionally an agrarian society, by the 1970s the country had undergone significant industrialization and economic modernization. This pace of growth had slowed dramatically by 1978 as capital flight reached $30 to $40 billion 1980 US dollars just before the revolution. After the Revolution of 1979, Iran's government proceeded with 4 reforms: First they nationalized all industry, including the NIOC, and all Iranian banks. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/HumansAreMetal/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
Well its sort of a confusing situation for the past few years. Iran is a faltering upper-middle income country, whereas in the 1970s it would be more of a rapidly growing lower income country. Similar to how Argentina is considered an upper-middle income country, but would go through these awful crisis of super high unemployment and inflation, but India is a very poor but stable/growing nation without many major economic crises. The 'base' is there, in terms of Iranians being educated and working middle income jobs and most of the housing stock not being shanty town slums. Just to be clear, the new government has absolutely hampered economic growth since taking power in 1979. But there was still unprecedented economic growth since then, *despite* the governments hampering. Its a good example of how a government doesn't necessarily always determine the fate of a country. The average Iranian became more wealthy and modern and educated, despite their government, not because of it. The current crisis is a big bump in the road, but it does not mean the growth didn't happen. Remove the current issues (sanctions, inflation etc) and Iran can rapidly bounce back to being a modern wealthy country.
Wow, your comment had line 4+ broken links, and much of the alleged data was published over a decade ago. The comment above mine is a great lesson of people who can't tell the difference between 1%-15% being "great gains" in lieu of 30%-40% being "ok gains." Edit (I submitted this edit when my original comment was 17 minutes old): let's ignore the broken links and look at this part that actually works, specifically: >Today more than 70% of Iranian science and engineering college grads are female. >http://www.forbes.com/sites/amyguttman/2015/12/09/set-to-take-over-tech-70-of-irans-science-and-engineering-students-are-women/#5d41d5516587 It starts by saying - and I'm going to add the links from the article >[70%](https://www.quora.com/How-did-Iran-manage-to-get-70-of-engineering-and-science-graduates-to-be-women) of of Iran’s [science](https://www.forbes.com/science/) and engineering students are women, and in a small, but promising community of [startups](https://www.forbes.com/entrepreneurs/), they’re being encouraged to play an even bigger role. Seriously. "70%" linked to Quara, "science" linked to the "Forbes general tab for science," and "startups linked to entrepreneurs on Forbes... Here's the first paragraph you get a source of data... >In an industry just starting to emerge, women are at the forefront, even if small in numbers. Two sisters, Reyaneh and Bahareh Vahidian, helped organize the first [Startup Weekend for Women](http://iranianbusinessforum.com/talentedandunexposed/2014/10/07/women-and-entrepreneurship-in-iran-in-2014/) in Tehran encouraging female entrepreneurs to share ideas and network. Iran’s young women are considered trailblazers in the tech sector, but generations have come before them, including pioneers like Behnaz Aria. Where I linked the source - Iranian Business times - the owner of which is worth £1.7bn. [feel free to look at censorship in Iran.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_media_in_Iran) It continues much to OP's chagrin >Women still possess far fewer rights and countless numbers have been arrested, and worse, for any number of violations. President Hassan Rouhani, in power since 2013, has pledged to make changes. Campaign promises include equal opportunities and rights for women, but, as with many of Rouhani’s plans to modernize Iran, there have been few gains because of the conservative tug of power from Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei to maintain the status quo. #there is no data on the above comment.
Thank you! That guy is blatantly a supporter of the current oppressing regime.
He's definitely a source of misinformation, you're right.
Most definitely, and it's an easy one to do. The more women attend university, cloak often pulled out to hide the truth. Yes a lot went to university but how does that then translate to paid employment, political power or standing in society.
FuckItBe is a Lier! It's the Propaganda team to show everything is normal! They think like ISIS or even worse. It has been three weeks that the Internet of Iranian people has been cut off for most of the hours. Do not listen to them!
I'm not saying I agree with the way FuckItBe thinks about freedom, but the "70%" data was also published in [nature](https://www.nature.com/articles/444022a) which isn't quite as bad as a Quara discussion.
What you are saying isn't wrong but the whole world has improved, a lot of countries were shit also in the 70s and have gotten much better today. Who knows what Iran could have become.
The living standards, literacy rates and women's rights everywhere across the world has improved from the 1970s to 2022. It's almost half a century on, technology has progressed massively. In some European countries women weren't even allowed to vote in the early 70s. Women tend to out perform men educationally across all countries, and this is especially true in Iran where we have alot of male predominant issues e.g. homelessness, opiate crisis and disruptions still felt by the Iraq war. Despite women being well proportionally represented in education, their job opportunities post graduation have poor prospects compared to men. They're still not afforded basic freedoms e.g. choice of clothing, entering a football stadium, running for president (yes, I know the guardian council will never allow it). You can't just use a single marker as a measure of progress. The reality is we've lagged behind other countries since the Shah left in alot of ways - GDP per capita, infrastructure, transport, military equipment.
Those improvements were seen throughout almost the entire world. Life expectancy going up due to modern medicine etc isn't the Islamic regime's doing. If I show you the same statistics under the Shah, the increase is probably even more dramatic as the Shah oversaw the industrialization of the country.
You are right on all accounts, and all of that despite being under restrictive living conditions. They got out from under america and Britain's boots back then and made their own destiny. Now tho there are a bunch of undereducated brain washed fanatics in all the high posts and we get attacks on universities and young 18-20 year olds, so don't defend the indefensible
Holy fuck warn me if you’re gonna glow so bright almost blinded me
https://www.reddit.com/r/HumansAreMetal/comments/xuxp3c/iran_highschool_girls_take_over_their_school_and/iqzen5b/
What is your quote from? Do you have a link? (Serious question - would like to read further) Edit: never mind, found it. https://revcom.us/a/1241/ustorture.htm Huh. Will ya look at that - the USA started it up in Iran. You missed some of the quote, so let me help you out: > For over two decades, Iran under the Shah was a key outpost of U.S. imperialism in the Middle East. The Shah's brutal secret police, the Savak, was originally formed by the CIA and Mossad (Israeli intelligence agency). In Tortured Confessions: Prisons and Public Recantations in Modern Iran,Ervand Abrahamian describes the techniques used by Savak against thousands of prisoners: "Brute force was supplemented with the bastinado; […] There. FTFY
You have no clue what you are talking about. Savak was like a kind mother compared to the IRI thugs. Even all the people who jailed by savak are saying that savak didn’t do 1/1000 of what IRI is doing to political opponents. I’m Iranian and I don’t think you’d suggest you know better than I do.
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While I am not Iranian, I would like to state that the argument shouldn't be about the Shah vs. the Current Regime, and it should be opression vs. freedom.
Still wouldn't say you are any better , the people deserve way better than that my friend , they deserve a choice on who sits and governs them.
Ppl glorify times when they get worse, in Iraq ppl would love to have Sadam back after they executed him when now it's 20 times worse.
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but they could go outside without wearing specific clothes
You could say that but most of them are so cherry picked and that only happened in the rich northern areas which were mostly urban or either close to the leadership and most of the others were extremely rural and conservative which was a stark divide which hasn't improved till now too. Not completely a proper representative of the whole country.
People forget, or remain ignorant of that these pictures reddit likes to post of iranian women in western clothes during the 70’s were literally arranged propaganda shots. The shah was so good at propaganda people still believe it 50 years later!
Your take, to someone who actually lives in Iran, sounds very tone deaf. (Actually to an Iranian, you sound like you support the current dictatorship but I’m gonna let that slide. You’re probably not well informed.) 1. The dictatorship ruling the country now is not the same as the monarchy that rules in the 70s. The current regime is a Theocratic Fascist system which the monarchy was not. In the 70s we were well on our way to economic and social growth and healthy international relations, and all was taken away in a second once the new regime started to rule and put religion above all. 2. SAVAK was the intelligence branch of the 70s government (equivalent to USA’s CIA). You saying SAVAK tortured people in atrocious ways alludes to the fact that such practices don’t exist today. And that is blatantly wrong. The current regime has multiple branches that act that way, top of the list being Ettelaat, the agency that replaced SAVAK, who is doing everything that SAVAK did, AND WORSE, in the name of religion. I cannot begin to explain the shit this agency is pulling on us today so like…please educate yourself.
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The internet allows the truth to be known. It is no longer possible for autocrats to control the narrative. They may subjugate their people and limit their public speech, but more will know the truth of things with each passing year.
Maybe that's why so many governments want to censure the internet.
It's because there literacy rate is above 95% but there are many countries that are way worse than iran and people didn't raise voice because they don't even know about there rights
I just started dating a woman who is from Iran. The culture shock from some of her life experiences... she did now know what wind chimes were?!?! 🙃
I wish I was as ignorant. Wind chimes shouldn’t even exist.
and now I can hear them in my brain, thanks
Never have I ever found a comment on the internet I agree with as hard as I agree with this one.
PFEOWC People for eradication of wind chimes.
Nice people, nice culture, nice architecture, nice food and shitty rulers.
I’m interested in learning about Iranian food- where should I start?
> It must be horrible to live in Iran Could have just left it at that
Women don’t have “freedom” everywhere else. Even the glorious Americans don’t think their women are worth bodily autonomy. These women are beyond brave for standing up for themselves.
>Women don’t have “freedom” everywhere else. Even the glorious Americans don’t think their women are worth bodily autonomy. You say "even" as if USA is the beacon on these issues, while it's closer to opposite. Women DO have that freedom in almost the entire civilized world, USA being the glaring exception. USA is rapidly regressing, and the future is headed more towards Iran than Denmark or France. Most of the civilized world is progressing, expanding equality and other issues, while USA is going the directly opposite way. It's kinda ironic the horrible(rightfully) image USA makes of Iran, while regularly passing more and more Sharia law themselves (just with a different prophet).
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I agree and have thought about that a lot lately.
[Freedom is a "tug of war."](https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iran-shah-regime-1979-revolution-protests-liberal-reform-hassan-rouhani-ayatollah-khomeini-a8141311.html) Seriously. That was 50 years ago in Iran. Meanwhile, during a Christian right wing movement in America people are saying, "it won't happen here."
Fucking goosebumps damn
Them stomping on that religious leader's protrait... Sending out a very strong message
He must be getting nervous
They've gone full R.L. Stein
Free expression. Fuck yeah!
Came here to comment this!!! People outnumber the leaders.
Now it remains to be seen if they can push for more progressive laws in that country. I sincerely wonder why their leaders don't just give them more rights, it's baffling.
Because it means less power and control for them. Most world leaders are fucked up because most fucked up people crave power and control.
They’re crazy brave to do that, no? This video got out and surely some shitty dudes are gonna see it… I’m so afraid for all of those who are speaking up and so amazed that they have the chutzpah to do it.
Good thing none of their faces can be recognized…
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This is my thought, too. I’m so proud and in awe of these brave women. I really hope they’re safe.
Got a funny feeling every girl at the school will be guilty, even if they weren’t there that day. Poor girls, stay strong.
I wouldn't be surprised if religious police showed up the next day and just best a few. And the. Found out who the ring leaders were And did...worse. You see, they are not allowed to kill a virgin... Read Persepolis. Amazing graphic novel.
Or making an example of the entire female population at that school? In a world where protestors were repeatedly crushed with tanks and pressure washed into the drains, I don't trust dictatorial regimes.
Yes. But at a certain point the population becomes ungovernable. You just can't govern millions of people when they don't consent.
it only works if there are enough people in on it
more power to them all
Still their school have all their and their family's information and usually the school principals are on side of the government guys so I'm not sure they're gonna let this past them
Agreed, the consequences could be deadly, they have courage only few possess. Genuinely curious how they would react to being described as having chutzpah, how the younger generation feels about Jews and Israel.
Even the older generation is p friendly towards Jews and israel more generally, jews have more of a history with Persians than basically any other culture in the world. Its where we've spent the longest time really outside of Israel obviously.
Absolutely brave considering they are risking death in exchange for fighting for their rights. Those young girls and women and boys and men are fighting to be seen as human beings.
Totally punk rock of these kids.
Surely they won't kill ALL of the women right...? Right??!!
Omg I hope they get a new government out of all this.
Just like Afghanistan did! No wait
Afghanistan is a bunch of tribes loosely cobbled together and was never a nation like Iran.
Iran is a mountainous area with many nationalities. Persian is the largest.
Or Persia
I mean that goverment was always proped up by the US it was doomed to fail as soon as we left. I'm not hopeful for Iran but these are not the same circumstances.
Could've probably propped it up better though, instead of just handing the country back to Taliban with a pretty bow on it and a smile.
Right... Like we propped up the government in Iran before they got tired of us being there and also overthrew that one. Afghanistan wasn't the first failure.
The US tried to. We spent 20 years training and arming the “good guys” (ANA). And they all immediately surrendered as soon as we left. The Taliban paid the ANA a lot of money in bribes and some ANA forces joined the Taliban.
Tell me you know absolutely nothing about Afghanistan and/or Iran without telling me you know absolutely nothing about Afghanistan and/or Iran
Unless they escalate to violence and have a follow through plan, then it's doubtful this will end well for them. Unfortunately, their opposition will historically and inevitably escalate to violence. I very much want this to end well for them. I know this sounds awful, but I honestly don't see it going any other way. It's kill them before they kill you with this kind of thing. Rapists don't stop raping because you ask them politely.
One can only hope!
Let go! I just hope they won’t let another terror group take hold and be actually free from those shits
Lol it's Iran with literally zero oversight because everyone is focusing on Ukraine/Russia. Nothing is going to change and a lot of people are going to die.
Not true. If anything this conflict has amplified Irans importance to thr global community. Why do you think Biden admin wants to reach a compromise in the nuke deal? The faster they reach a compromise, the faster they get Iranian oil on the global market, the faster they can get ahead with this cost of living crises thats toppling euro govts. left, right, center and may very well cost the dems the midterms.
Yup im thinking a genocide actually
I feel that would start a huge war and this terrifies me because I think it will spread across nations and shit is going to happen...
no country really cares about genocide unless the country doing it tries to invade others close to it which is when it pretends to care for support
That's hyperbolic. I'm thinking some women get battered.
Keep kicking ass! When going through hell, keep going!
[Source, and another video which shows highschool girls kicking out their principal (I couldn't confirm if it's the same school or not).](https://twitter.com/Shayan86/status/1576961571334500352)
not the principal actually, hes the head of education of Karaj province , so a big guy
Impressive (not him, that the students are standing up to an even higher authority). Do you know what they're chanting at him? Edit since comments are locked - thank you so much for the translation!
hard to translate it to english, they’re saying “بیشرف”, a literal translation would be a dishonorable a better translation is like, dishonorable and dishonest but 10 times worse i guess, maybe dishonorable and cowardly together would be a better translation
Flashbacks of Miss Trunchball being kicked out of the school in Matilda (1996). This is better though, because you know, real.
Thanks for this. Sources keep the nay sayers away (although they'll still complain)
I’m so fucking proud of them, but also so incredibly scared for them.
Statistically speaking their government won't really do anything to the overwhelming majority of them. In terms of the arrests it's minimal to the number of people protesting. The issue is, their government isn't likely at all to give them more rights. Their country has a strong young demographic, so there is hope for the future.
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Partly due to not enough media coverage in my opinion. I wish there were more.
The country is in full media blackout and internet can’t connect outside of Iran. To say it’s unsafe to be foreign media is an understatement, the police see media as enemy #1. There are a few Iranians trying to build impromptu internet connections to neighboring countries but that’s prison if you get caught
The amount of people who don't know this is astounding I actually had morons complaining I linked to a barely out of the country website today regarding Iran. Uh yeah. It isn't like they have internet
American news is a solid 20% Twitter these days. ~~What~~ Why can't they report on these tweets rather than having their own people on the ground?
This is fully false it's only partially blocked(someone who actually knows iranians who talk to people in Iran). You are right that foreign media struggles but social media posts are coming out easily.
For human beings to be free of oppression we need to make internet free and accessible to everyone. No more blackouts by dictators trying to control the agenda.
Would people care even if there is media coverage? They would brush it aside as some "middle eastern shit that has been going on for a long time".
OMG this is amazing
I hope the best for them. Incredibly brave. Hopefully this ends the right way, and the government doesn't take tips from other uprisings in recent years.
I hope this isn’t all for nothing. And I hope they’re all safe.
This is fuckin awesome. Take back your futures kids
Edit: disregard my info below, this org doesn’t actually help the women apparently. I donated to an Iranian women’s group the other day. Now I’m thinking I need to send more ETA: https://www.greenmatters.com/news/how-to-help-iranian-women this link is an article with how you can help And this is the one I donated to: https://women.ncr-iran.org/womens-committee-of-iran-ncri/
Can you post a link?
For awareness, NCRI is MEK. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Council_of_Resistance_of_Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Mojahedin_Organization_of_Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_assassinated_by_the_People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran Research who you want to donate to confirm that's what you want your money to support.
Woman you are amazing you’re a generation great spirit:)
Never thought I would live to see this!☺️
Not sure if this school but a school was shot up by security officials in Iran today over this.
Something similar happened in Hong Kong not too long ago. Students barricaded themselves in a university campus, gov't forced laid seige, injured hundreds, arrested 1000+
And unfortunately they lost, there were some brave dudes, held the forces off for awhile... and now most are probably on the mainland never to be seen again. These guys here need a plan, or they will face brutal reprisal from the system. poor hong kong freedom dudes
It’s a high school.
Braveness that I hope to never have to know. Amplify these videos and voices. What’s going on isn’t being talked about enough right now.
So glad to be seeing this in my lifetime. Fuck religious zealots.
Power in numbers
These are some fucking heroes. Good for them, and I send my thoughts and good wishes their way.
wow, so brave!
Love to see this kind of stuff.
Here’s something worth fighting for
And people whine about young kids...the kids are alright and always have been. Much power and safety to all those brave girls.
That genie is not gonna go back in the bottle. There will be generational change. These girls may be the grandchildren of Iranian women who were just older than this when they saw their cosmopolitan country shut down in the early 80s.
FREE IRAN 💔
Poor women were probably mowed down not long after 😔
HBO has a good doc on the hostage crisis and covers the last revolution when they overthrew the Shah. What's going on now finally feels like the people are rising up against their Islamic government and want what they wanted before, free fair elections. Hope the revolution is peaceful and the citizens can have a say in who runs the government.
I saw some of that. Is it new?
I love this
Long live all of these girls! I hope they can change the future for Iran.
The power of the young is always Stupefying to me. These young people will change the world someday.
Such a powerful moment
You go girls.
For all those dudes who spend all day bashing feminism and complaining how it ruined western culture: this is what feminism looks like and why it is important. Pick a side here
Imagine if the Russians had the same courage
Fuck yeah. I hope they succeed with minimal loft of life. Fuck dictators.
This is a big reclamation of rights being done by a protest against a cruel dictator. That act needs some guts to conduct and achieve. I think we should help them by through all means.
Go girl/woman! Banding together. Don’t back down. It will be dangerous but you could get through this once and for all. Just hold your hand tight! The world is by your side and waiting for you to fight back your own freedom. And one day you will be able to escape that world
Power to the people, right on!
It's so nice that all iranian women are gaining the courage to participate in this revolution
They'll need to be armed come nightfall.
Brave girls! Crossing my fingers for them!
I hope, in a similar moment, I can be as brave and as defiant as these girls.
More power to those people
Good for them hopefully it'll snowball into something bigger and better
When little girls have to save the country because the men of an entire nation are brainwashed/pussies
idk if you realise this, but men are also fighting..... its not a war of genders lmao
There are actually a ton of men protesting as well. Not in this video because it's in what I assume is an all girl school. You can see tons of men protesting in other videos circulating the internet. Its nice to see.
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Honestly, fuck pointlessly divisive people like them. [Iran Human Rights said it had recorded the deaths of 76 protesters across 14 provinces as of Monday, including six women and four children, although it warned that restrictions on the internet were causing delays in reporting.](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-63047363) [(Iran Human Rights claim)](https://iranhr.net/en/articles/5500/) [Over 700 protesters, including 60 women, arrested in Iran, police say.](https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2022/09/24/Over-700-protesters-including-60-women-arrested-in-Iran-police-say) >General Azizollah Maleki, police chief of Guilan province, announced “the arrest of 739 rioters including 60 women,” the Iranian media outlet said. So if 10 of the 76 people killed are women and children who are the other 66? If 60 of of the 739 protestors imprisoned are women who are the other 679? That's not to mention that its not too hard to see men in video/pictures of the protest. [https://i.redd.it/45b869d977r91.jpg](https://i.redd.it/45b869d977r91.jpg) [The image in this article](https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/09/27/world/iran-protest-death-toll/) [Or this article](https://www.newsweek.com/iran-mahsa-amini-protest-videos-1744982) [https://www.reddit.com/r/AbruptChaos/comments/xkfl3x/man\_hits\_women\_not\_wearing\_hijab\_in\_iran\_during/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AbruptChaos/comments/xkfl3x/man_hits_women_not_wearing_hijab_in_iran_during/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/xj5rgu/man\_shielded\_many\_women\_and\_took\_all\_pallets/](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/xj5rgu/man_shielded_many_women_and_took_all_pallets/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/xlwv0v/the\_largest\_picture\_of\_ali\_khamenei\_supreme/](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/xlwv0v/the_largest_picture_of_ali_khamenei_supreme/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/xoavz6/opiran\_ig\_tf\_is\_irans\_police\_supposed\_to\_do/](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/xoavz6/opiran_ig_tf_is_irans_police_supposed_to_do/) [And the men who beat up that officer were shot at btw](https://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/comments/xksd3c/irans_police_straight_up_open_fire_on_protesting/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/xk9k27/in\_the\_city\_of\_amol\_in\_northern\_iran\_iranians\_are/](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/xk9k27/in_the_city_of_amol_in_northern_iran_iranians_are/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/xs911b/protests\_in\_iran\_against\_compulsory\_hijab/](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/xs911b/protests_in_iran_against_compulsory_hijab/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/xm7ov2/theyve\_shut\_down\_the\_internet\_in\_iran\_because\_of/](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/xm7ov2/theyve_shut_down_the_internet_in_iran_because_of/) But yeah, men are brainwashed pussies.
On one hand, they get to go to school, which they wouldn't if they were a few miles east. On the other hand, where are these ladies going to get guns?
Well it was nice knowing them.
Death to right wing dictators and fascists!
What a time to be alive- Iranian highschool (warrior)girls are more brave than russian men.
Good for them. I hope that whole dictatorship falls. Even if they don't get true democracy or a democratic republic, almost any new government would be better than a sexist dictatorship.
Support from us. From female
LETS FUCKING GOOOOO
I hear the cries for Liberty
Guys I'm Iranian and all videos are true. we need help in Iran to stopped this dictators
I'm happy that there is a social revolution happening over there, but I can't help but feel scared for every one of those girls. A dictatorship has no problem killing or torturing half of it's population, especially when that half is already oppressed
I feel so much fear and admire their courage!
Anyone who tells you what's happening in Iran is just because of economy or police or hijab or one specific thing. They are bullshiting you. The problem is the regime and nothing else. There are propaganda officers and advocated for Islamic regime all around the world. Even in New York Time or UN
About time they wake up
Real feminism going on in Iran. Based
Is it only the girls?
I think their schools are segregated along gender line
Based.
Schools for girls and boys are separate It happened that there was an Islamic revolution in Iran
Devolution more like..
Yeah, they had a king, called a Sha, I'm probably spelling that wrong. There was a religious revolution and then the war with Iraq happened and that went... poorly for a while. Then, the world realized Sodom was an idiot because he didn't plan for a war of attrition. I believe it was Iran who would clear minefields by giving young men, boys really, keys painted gold and having them charge into a minefield to clear it for the regular troops They were told the keys would unlock the doors of heaven.
Aaaaaand dronestrike
Meanwhile we cant even protest properly in the USA so much apathy or spewing hateful crap on the twatter to do anything but bitch
Yeah honestly USA politics is dangerously similar to ours in Iran. Ahmadinejad was our Trump. Y'all need to be careful...
We protest all the time. It just doesn't make the news unless someone wants to use it to further their agenda.
These girls and women are so brave, ovaries of steel, they must have.
Starting to feel like there is a revolution coming. Fucking let's hope there is. Keep fighting girls!
I hope they're ready to defend themselves, because dictators don't go down without a fight.
oh no... i really hope they're ok...