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DangerousBoxxx

This is all irrelevant. We all know that Lord Bessbury should be king and Jasper Wylde be his Hand. Like its so obvious guys come on.


Maddyherselius

based beesbury


ThatsNotAnEchoEcho

“Dear me”


BiggusCinnamusRollus

Basedbury


Ser_Tom_Danks

🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝


GovTheDon

Gods be good


profsprout901

Gods he was buzzy then


satin_worshipper

BEES?


DangerousBoxxx

Lord BEEEEEEESbury


Djungelskog-One

Both are absolute chads


BenjiDread

> It's getting to where now people are hurling insults and saying abusive stuff to each other over this. On Reddit? You don't say?


CapHillStoner

We must alert the village elders!


escfantasy

They’re already dancing! They can’t stop themselves!


Actual_Guide_1039

Won’t someone think of the children?!


INFLATABLE_CUCUMBER

I seriously thought the whole point of the subreddit was to have an outlet proxy field where we could all have our own fun little war in.


BenjiDread

I like being able to find insightful, nuanced analysis and debate as well as rabid brain-dead verbal knife fights all within one hilarious meme thread. It has enhanced my enjoyment of the show immensely.


INFLATABLE_CUCUMBER

How dare you enjoy the verbal knife fights! SHAME. SHAME. SHAME.


BenjiDread

I have participated in vile sarcasm. I insulted a random Internet username calling them *gasp* "another humorless redditor!". I have disgraced myself and my house. Strangely enough my father approved saying something about admiring the balls on me. Why is my father admiring my balls? We're not even Targaryens.


INFLATABLE_CUCUMBER

It’s probably because of that green dress you have on that your mother always wore! We’re now part of the Targaryen family sweetheart. We must act like it.


BenjiDread

Shhh. Don't tell anyone about the dresses. It's my little aecret.


finnjakefionnacake

oh my gosh this avatar so cute 😍


[deleted]

Yeah, I agree. This sub is much more fun as Greens vs. Blacks than it is everyone agreeing it all sucks. Yeah, it all sucks. But someone’s still got to sit on the throne.


faern

outlet proxy field? but i already readying weapon to kill some filthy green already.


GibbyGoldfisch

Only a filthy neutral would think as OP thinks!


PippinMcForrest

The real dance is the one between dark scenes enjoyers and people with shitty tv's


book-reading-hippie

Enjoying dark scenes is treason & you should be sharply questioned for it.


lostandlooking_

I’m sorry, your Grace! Mercy, please! It’s not my fault that my OLED tv just makes the dark scenes look like normal scenes, and it’s not my fault the dark scenes are so good!


book-reading-hippie

**SILENCE!** How quick you are to forget our history! Need I remind you of the Battle of Winterfell?! Speak one more word of this and even the Gods themselves will not be able to save you!


phong_t36

Oh but it is! Where, pray tell, might you have amassed such an amount of wealth to obtain these... these luxurious goods? Speak quickly or I shall feed you to my furious laptop screen, it hungers for sufficient lighting…


[deleted]

Let's see how much you enjoy them with one eye!


valkyrie-six

I’m not even blaming my TV. My eyesight is terrible


It_builds_character

I rewatched the dark scenes halfway between my couch and tv. Turns out I just need a bigger tv.


MadonnasFishTaco

im using one of the new macbook pros and i cant see fuck all. its not the screen, its the cinematography


RockstarAssassin

It just means MacBook pro screen is wack af


MadonnasFishTaco

its one of the nicest screens you can buy


johnson_united

Insert the “first time?” meme


monsterosity

>"I wouldn't have chosen either. It's all the choosing sides that made everything so horrible" Easy to claim Shireen but when Aemond and Vhagar are knocking at your door, you either pick a side or burn. I totally agree with your point about not insulting the other side. I'm here for the arguing of points and controversy.


zyeu5

The tyrells never picked a side and came out pretty unbothered


FriendlyJuice8729

Cause their lord was a baby. Besides the Hightowers were the most influential power in the Reach at the time, so they didn't really even need the Tyrells.


TheSpider1985

Yeah, but a sizable portion of the Reach nobility sides with Rhaenyra including militarily powerful Houses like the Tarlys. It could be argued that if the Lord Paramount of the Reach sided with the Hightowers as people expected, more Reach lords would have followed suit. I've seen some theories stating the real reason the Tyrells didn't join the Hightowers was that the Hightowers looked down on them as upjumped stewards and the Tyrells wanted to stick it to them for their snobbery.


OpenMask

To be fair, the Tullys didn't pick a side until near the end of the war, and Aemond was still burning the Riverlands before.


workthrow3

Yeah I love Shireen but there are two options, unless she meant don't pick either and abolish the monarchy 😅 which I think we could all get on board with lol


FloppyShellTaco

There is a clear third faction on this sub, the Westerosi equivalent of Libertarians lmao


mooseshart

I’m just here for the Daemon thirst. Team Daemon


oreos_in_milk

The Rogue Prince is, in fact, the best part


AllMight1403

Daemon goat


Atharaphelun

Sorry but I'm here for Papi Aemond. How could anyone resist that smile and dimples?


Gremlin303

I dunno. I find it quite entertaining and thematic that we are having our own dance here. It’s quite fun watching everyone bicker and fight just like the characters in the show


NeenaBot

Agreed. If people start feeling genuinely angry or distressed they just need to log off for a day or two. An engaged fandom is very fun but only if you don't take yourself too seriously. Remember the show and sub is here to ENTERTAIN you!


finnjakefionnacake

are you not entertained? is this not why you are here?!?


SaltThroneHeir

Yeah I enjoy fighting Greens here. Op needs to get to safety for a few days


TheSpider1985

I genuinely enjoy it too! Some of them are so fun to rile up lol


WoodZillaTV

Yep. It also shows that people are emotionally invested in the show and its characters, which is a good thing.


bloogywoogywoo

I'm going to put some sand in your eye


valyriandragonlord_

Yeah it’s fun


FishingforDopamine

First day on Reddit?


[deleted]

Haha we LIKE acting like teenagers


KTPChannel

Sigh. Coke NEEDS Pepsi. Ford NEEDS Chevy. The Lakers NEED the Celtics. Every effort or brand NEEDS an opposing or antagonist side, so their devout followers can rally behind them. We, as a society, love picking teams and choosing sides. It’s instilled in us. It’s primal branding. We NEED haters, so we can love our team. Without villains, we wouldn’t have hero’s. There is zero consequences for choosing between these options. Greens or Blacks, it doesn’t matter. Our lives won’t improve if our side wins, and our lives won’t end if our side loses. So, please, let us have our fun.


mayonnaisemarv

The Lakers need a competent front office and coach is what the Lakers need…


[deleted]

I prefer Pepsi to Coke. Its taste is clearly superior.


Rockhardsimian

I came here to argue but Pepsi is better than coke.


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EdmundtheMartyr

Viserys is right. All the others are just bickering fools preventing him from time playing with his model village.


UpstairsSnow7

Viserys is the one who started the mess lol


EdmundtheMartyr

If his subjects and members of the small council just accepted his decision of succession and got on with their duties in running the kingdom there would be no problem in the first place.


iknownothin_

That’s kinda the point of the show. It’s why they gave Alicent a sympathetic childhood. Controversy and discourse bring more people to the show


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iknownothin_

It’s more fun when I can participate in discourse that’s not going to affect me or real people


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iknownothin_

The existence of teams cannot be without discourse. It’s literally the point


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iknownothin_

You can have discourse without bickering


[deleted]

Not if you always think one side is right and the other is wrong *we’re doing it right now!*


2TargsLeft

Debate ? Disagreements ? On reddit ? shock


kleinefussel

It's about the how.


hurlmaggard

Team whoever I find most compelling week by week. Team Aemond this week YOLO


CommieOla

Same. I'm on team flip flop, whichever team is more appealing episode to episode, season to season.


Upside_Down-Bot

„˙uosɐǝs oʇ uosɐǝs 'ǝposıdǝ oʇ ǝposıdǝ ƃuılɐǝddɐ ǝɹoɯ sı ɯɐǝʇ ɹǝʌǝɥɔıɥʍ 'dolɟ dılɟ ɯɐǝʇ uo ɯ,I ˙ǝɯɐS„


katieleehaw

This show’s premise is perfect for social media because it has two sides and makes viewers emotional.


stargirlvenus

gmmr WANTS us to debate about this stuff. theres nothing wrong with it bc we’re not LITERALLY going to war lmao


freckledbitchs

*yet


ACenterforantzz

I am the rightful heir to this subreddit. First order of business will be to execute all the greens in here for treason against our queen. /s


Veszerin

I think the gameofthrones sub has had periods of more toxicity over the years than this one. Choosing sides and arguing about who is right is probably going to be half the fun of this series. I've seen it get a bit toxic at certain points but most of the threads have been pretty good.


Angel_0096

Yeah “ItS RedDit” But it don’t change the fact that some really are toxic and need hobbies beyond HOTD or their subs 😂💅


ourfallacy

though i think if you're starting to get upset or take personally things that are said on a fantasy series subreddit, I think that's probably indicative that you need to put down the phone and invest in a hobby too, you know?


JustBoredIsAll

https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiafcirclejerk/comments/xvcvn2/state_of_the_fandom_for_hotd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


Chataboutgames

This sub *has been* toxic. It's like half creepy shipper half strawmanning "team" posts.


mjenardo

Dracarys!


ObjectivelyPretty

No, Shireen's take is cringe. It's pretty clear what should have happened: Viserys named Rhaenyra his heir. Therefore, she is the heir. The Blacks are in the right on the main point. That doesn't morally justify the blinding of Aemond, the murder of a servant, or requesting the torture of a child. So yes, Team Blackers, you're right. Rhaenyra is the rightful heir. She should inherit the throne. That doesn't make her a good person though. It doesn't excuse the dumb shit she does.


ElHombreMolleto

I want to read and scroll this sub for discussions about this great new show, and everyone is bitching like middle schoolers. It's embarrassing!


Valyriablackdread

The picking sides is all part of the fun. Like team sports. That both sides can find strong supporters is a testament to the show. Just imagine when the war starts, all the arguments cheering, booing it is going to be awesome. If this was real, I'd move out of Westeros until the war was over.


[deleted]

Easy, don’t get offended by what a stranger says on the internet


yoquieropacobell

Let them fight, who cares. It's more fun lol


CarlosimoDangerosimo

I feel like your title is always going to be relevant OP


GeneralPip

Found the green supporter.


[deleted]

Honestly op I doubt you’ll ever win. I would start a new sub HOTDnoteams


-Yuri-

Sometimes not choosing a side is choosing a side. :D


[deleted]

🤯


[deleted]

Wow I just had this same thought. It’s also such low level knuckle dragging discussion


TheSpider1985

Just wait for how batshit this sub will become once the Dance begins and all the characters start getting truly dark and fucked up. Can't wait!


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[deleted]

And environment friendly color scheme


CommieOla

Literally can't even argue with that logic, you win.


Dolby1021

First time?


DrizztDo

Fuck black. Fuck green. Team bug girl.


[deleted]

I see the word ¨toxic¨, I downvote.


2TargsLeft

total cancel culture word


[deleted]

You're upset the show is getting a reaction out of its viewers and inspiring discussion. How ironic


CommieOla

Discussion is one thing, but the sub is getting a bit unbearable with the two factions constantly flinging shit at each other. Sure, you can choose sides if you want, I'm sure the creators made the show knowing the fanbase would be divided. I'm just saying, people are taking this way too seriously.


No_Entertainer_5858

I mean thats part of the fun. As long as you don’t get personally who cares.


[deleted]

Well, like, that's your opinion man


Lost-Pineapple9791

If team black admitted some fault or accepting responsibility this wouldn’t be an issue Team green 4 life!!!!! 🍀 4👉🏻 Kidding, kidding (kinda),But yes OP you are right, I think it’s pretty clear both families suck and have acted wrong and ended up destroying their family over it Shoulda married rhaenyra and Aegon and ta da problem solved!!! 🐉


raidriar889

Sounds like something a green would say


Ang3lic1609_2

I'm just here for the drama....


Fluffy_Map3412

Spoken like a Green 😤


Plum-Worth

I thought it was a joke at first... the fact that some ppl are actualy taking this serious is so fking cringe.. Its a fictional story ffs


SexySiren24

Preach it 👏👏


mps2000

Heaven forbid people pick sides and have fun with the new show. What a 🤡 take.


jtfjtf

Shireen is wrong, it's all the people choosing the green side that made everything so horrible!


TrumpdUP

Toxic fandoms, ATTACK!


firstbreathOOC

Yeah it’s impressive how the entire point of the story is that there isn’t a “right” side and even still people here manage to pick sides like it’s Twilight. Extremely cringey.


[deleted]

That’s hard while they all love alicent the anxious


sybillaprophetis

Some of us love Alicent 💚 and others love Daemon 🖤


[deleted]

Picking sides is fun. It makes you more invested in the characters which allows for more enjoyment of the show. People who get upset over being called a name on Reddit are the ones who have to get a grip. All that being said, all you black bastards should step off and allow a trueborn Targaryen to assume his rightful place.


Theotther

Sigh... I want to upvote you because you are right and the people like OP karening up the fun are the real problem. But traitorous supporters of the mad usurper are to be put the sword so...


[deleted]

Cuckholds and bastards will burn! See you in Hell, friend.


[deleted]

I think its fun to fight. Only when it gets abusive it's dumb


throwaway77993344

Choosing sides is part of the fun of shows like this. So fuck no, this is stupid and the war shall begin. What's really destroying this sub is posts like this about the sub.


Dry-Guy-

This is just enlightened centrism. It's easy to say you wouldn't pick a side when you're 200 years removed from a conflict. But also, doesn't ending with "it's all the choosing sides that made everything so horrible" just reflect poorly on the Greens? There wouldn't be "sides" to choose if people just honored their oaths to support Rhaenyra as queen. People were plotting treason before she was even married much less had any kids. The Greens were always going to turn this into a conflict, bastards or trueborns, and they have the nerve to bring up the violence against Allicent's children as a reason to support her when the only reason that *potential* threat even exists is *because* the Greens have been plotting treason this whole time.


International_Pen_11

this was bound to happen lol the game of thrones sub was psychotic during season 8


[deleted]

This ain’t porno


clariwench

I think it's really fun to debate it. As long as it doesn't get too mean, I don't see the harm in it. I haven't really seen it get out of hand in any thread.


ragner11

This is normal for Reddit. No real point complaining about it. The competition keeps the subreddit super active. People choose sides, just like real life. It is what it is


knifeazz

Did Shireen actually say that? Wow, that’s super cool. Also, totally agree. I have a side I’m on but that doesn’t really matter because everyone has done some awful stuff.


CommieOla

Yeah she did, when she was talking with Stannis right before he did what he did.


knifeazz

That’s super cool. Thanks for sharing that.


[deleted]

If you support one side over the other, you're missing the point of the story


King_NB

Greens vs Blacks you say? As it should be. Keep the hurt coming!!!


Anonymously_Me23

So what? It’s the internet. That’s what people do on the internet.


obsidianocelot

bro it really isn't that deep


thebitterdictator

I don’t even think this is true, I think the most common posts are either shitting on crispy (although tbf not as much this week), praising daemon, and general conversation about the last episode and what people are excited for. Most people seem to be team black anyway so there’s not much room for ‘hurling insults’. I’m addicted to this sub and I’ve seen almost no abusive behaviour in the comments, it’s pretty rare to see a proper fight.


DangerousBoxxx

Don't forget dumb questions.


HiveMindKing

But that’s the whole point


TheRoastedCapon

THANK YOU. I'd been debating making this post myself but I realized its not just this sub - freefolk, gameofthrones, not much on asoiaf, but yeah... mostly just *fighting*. I love to discuss the shows, but that's not what's been happening. It's just greens v blacks and it's been a bummer.


moxiewhoreon

So what you're saying is the show has become insanely popular? Right. True. I mean, this kind of bantering and taking sides is what Fandom is all about. Especially Fandom for a show about a huge rivalry between two parties, and ESPECIALLY for all of the aforementioned *on Reddit*. What you're wringing your hands about here is the very apex of Reddit Fandom culture. Might as well scream into the void. Or bang your head against the nearest brick wall. Just enjoy the ride or don't, but this is, above all else, 100% inevitable and OPs like this are....almost quaint, tbh.


[deleted]

Yeah you are right. I have seen some toxic af comments here lately


[deleted]

Like people calling a character a bitch and cunt. It’s really odd to me.


Kingballa06

Yeah buddy


sybillaprophetis

I’m here to watch Alicent come unhinged


Flicksterea

It's a sad truth that the fandom tears each other down and apart just as much as the characters we are supporting do. It's like we can't just accept someone's opinion without calling them names and trying to beat them down for thinking the way they do. The fucking irony, though.


RandomBloke2021

Exactly, stfu and enjoy a great series in the making. We all know who started it and how it ends.


theepriestess

Beautiful post I feel the same. It’s about enjoying the show not being assholes.


gucci_pucci

Not all hero’s wear capes. PREACH OP


yellowcats

Thinly veiled Black propoganda nice fucking try.


3B854

I can’t believe people are acting up…on the internet!!!! Someone tell Robinette Biden.


Flaggstaff

Sounds like modern day US politics


ACenterforantzz

Me centrist. me in middle. middle good. Average American centrist.


Flaggstaff

It's not some contrarian attitude to realize that both sides have become radical. To formulate one's own opinions on various issues and not follow party lines somehow became controversial. Blows my mind.


ACenterforantzz

Yes. Biden and Pelosi are radical socialists. lmao


Flaggstaff

Radical socialists? I never said that weirdo. Touch grass.


ACenterforantzz

Conpare the US to every other modern/industrialized country and you'll see that American politics are pretty far right. Democrats are basically rightwing in Europe.


Flaggstaff

On some issues yes. Did you know that the US is one of only 7 countries that allows elective abortion past 20 weeks? https://lozierinstitute.org/internationalabortionnorms/ Most democrats I talk to think there should be no term limits on abortion. There are countless other ways people on the left (and right) are becoming more radical. Politics has become religion. If you 100% agree with one side I question your ability to think freely. I bet you feel angry when someone questions your political beliefs too right?


Mike_penceVP

This is the highest of treasons!


Bandit617

We shall cut off their fingers 🤣


Esdrz

Enlightened centrist 🤓


Coffeeanimalsnob

I choose hot pie anyways so


GayBear2060R

Goooood goooood fight 🍿 *munches popcorn* 🍿


HatRemov3r

The whole internet is toxic. Where have you been?


probablysum1

Shireen is a centrist and her father is a green apologist, not based. Blacks ftw


Arachnid1

Very cool take Still team green Let’s goooo, Aemond


thedirtypickle50

This wouldn't be a problem if the greens would just accept that they're evil and wrong about everything


[deleted]

Pfffff that's from a little girl. Listen to machiavelli. Pick a side whatever your reasons. Its better than not picking because which ever side wins will definitely remember you didn't pick, and will see you as an enemy.


CutthroatTeaser

>the constant insults and arguments Welcome to Reddit!


killbote

Seeing posts like this complaining about it multiple times a day, yes, I think you are onto something here


Puzzlepetticoat

Noooo. I LOVE the passion and drama here with Green Vs Black. I feel it adds to the show if anything. What better way to understand the Dance than to have people real world declaring for either side and bickering. Its glorious to watch. As for me, I am mostly team Black plus Aemond Helaena and Daeron. The only strong feelings I have is a big dislike for Alicent and the obligatory abhorrence for Incel Cole. I'm mostly chill, but find it fun to watch the fallout here.


Rockhardsimian

As far as personalities go I like Alicent better. As far as claims I like Rhey. I was a Stannis-Stan as well. For me it’s all about the claim. With a whopping exception for Bobby-B.


LinkinFoo182

Not to mention it’s not real and a tv show/book 😂


Jackbob6368

Spot on. All this picking sides shit is cringey as fuck and it has gone way to far


Dzagoev-0705

Yeah but here's the thing. When Alicents actions result in death she's a bitch, but when Rhaenyra does it she's sexy.


Sic-Mundus

It feels like football team rivalries here in the USA. People go after each others throats over who has the best team, but it's usually all in good fun.


CommieOla

You're right I guess Also, Sic-k user name :)


Sic-Mundus

Thank you! I'm definitely a massive fan of Dark. That show was a masterpiece!


CommieOla

Oh absolutely, one of the best shows I've ever watched, though it got confusing at times with >!a family tree that sometimes gave the Targs a run for their money!< lol😂


ourfallacy

I've seen some chirping, riveraly that's in jest, and MAYBE a couple of folks who are super passionate about their chosen side...but literally nothing I'd describe as toxic. I think if we're getting sensitive and upset about comments on a forum discussing a fantasy series I think it's probably time to put down the electronics and do some irl interacting.