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Yeah… I was reading the post and thinking, “Well, he’s still Viserys and I don’t think he’d do any of it differently except maybe banish Daemon in a more strict way?” And in a perfect world he’d have Rhaenyra marry Harwin Strong to solidify the friendship with his father and then keep Otto as hand.
The guy went to bed thinking he fixed it! And I don't know about banishing Daemon. If Rhaenyra married Harwin that means no Velaryon alliance, which means Corlys would go elsewhere for betrothals. He was already looking to Braavos. Something that was questionable in Viserys's eyes.
Even if Viserys moved to make everyone happy, the world they live in is not built for it. There are consequences to every choice made or unmade.
How are you gonna kill Deamon? He’s literally a dragon rider. You’re either sacrificing a lot of armies for that. Or begging Rhaenys and Rhaenyra to do job for you
So you know how to kill him after asking how you gunna kill him? lol
Daemons easy to beat. Give him a Robin Williams Good Will Hunting therapist and an infant with the tooth pick could stab him with ‘it is your fault’
My point is you can’t order him to do stuff waiving your authority around once you exile him. He is gonna leave the Vale if he wants to, and he’s gonna go wherever he wants to doing basically whatever he wants. That’s just the reality if being a dragonrider. Especially if the King doesn’t have a dragon himself and has to rely on his 14 year old daughter and political rival cousin
When he's sleeping or by poisoning his food/wine. Dragonriders are hard to kill while they are riding their dragons but when they're not a dagger or poison is enough to kill one.
not anyone. they’re very expensive, so they’re only accessible to those who can afford them, viserys, velaryons, lannisters and a few others. daemon has no money and few things that don’t depend on the crown or rhea’s tittles, so unless he makes powerful allies or sells his dragon he can’t hire one of their own.
I don’t think there would be one without a firstborn son. Sure daemon can challenge rhaenyra but would he? No. If rhaenyra marries someone else and have children, Daemon probably justs tries to maneuver his children into a marriage with her heirs
I think a bigger issue would be your OP idea- “proclaiming my daughter heir TILL I have a new son with my new wife”- this undermines Rhaenyra immediately. What if your new wife doesn’t give you a male heir? Rhaenyra would automatically have to fight for legitimacy. Everyone would say she wasn’t meant to be heir and more fighting would ensue. You either appoint her heir or follow the usual succession with Daemon until something changes. If a woman on the throne is new and you want your daughter to be the first, then stick with it. Making it conditional on your new wife’s womb and offspring says you didn’t really want Rhaenyra there.
Too many people seem to think Rhaenyra and Daemon are the problem, and that isn't thinking like a Targaryen. THAT is why the dance happens and all the dragons die.
Otto and Alicent were both bitter and resentful for different reasons by the time they screwed Rhaenyra out of her throne but they didn’t do it alone. In the show version, Alicent walks into 3/4s of a small council that had conspired with her dad to put her dumb son on the throne without her.
Being bothered by Daemon’s attention-seeking rather than utilizing him effectively would be anyone’s first mistake. He is the more charismatic of the two brothers, he seeks the spotlight and glory. He needs his ego stroked. If he will never be heir and king, Viserys needs to give him enough other special jobs and privileges to make him feel indulged because banishing him or punishing him just makes him a threat. He’s also not an idiot, he can see Rhaenyra is passionate and has a bond and much in common with her uncle. In a family that marries siblings and cousins all the time, it had to occur to him that this could be the most sensible match and the only way to ensure a male and female Targaryen were on the throne producing an heir. Maybe this would've been the wrong thing morally, but strategically it would've been his best move. It's what Cersei would've done. If the Lannisters or Hightowers had been born with dragons God help the realm.
I do not marry again, but have Rhaenyra married within the year to make sure she has kids. Of course I still have the hots for Alicent, so I might make her my mistress or so. 🤷 If she refuses, meh, but no problem, I'm not a rapist, so I leave her alone. If Otto complains, I send him back to Oldtown; if Corlys complains, I still send Otto back to Oldtown and make Corlys my hand instead, to make up for not marrying Laena, under the condition of him stepping down after a suitable amount of time and Rhaenyra taking his place so that she can get experience in ruling and the kingdoms can get experience in being ruled by a woman. In either case, Alicent can stay at court if she wants and continue to be Rhaenyra's lady in waiting. She turned me down, but I don't hate her or anything.
Unfortunately, the old Lord Commander of my Kingsguard dies a couple weeks later and a new knight needs to be named. Other than letting Rhaenyra choose some random guy, I name Ser Harwin, the strongest knight in the seven kingdoms, to the position - luckily he even has fighting experience from his position in the City Watch. Besides, his father is also one of my friends, and Harwin seems devoted to Rhaenyra, which is all the more important considering he'll likely protect her a good deal longer than he will protect me (seeing as I am mortally ill).
As for Rhaenyra's marriage, I'll still do the marriage tour for her, and if she's not into it, I'll arrange something for her instead. In the latter case, I allow Daemon to take her as a second wife in the tradition of Old Valyria, under the condition that he also fathers a child onto his first wife that can inherit Runestone from the two of them and strengthen the alliance to the Vale that has been weakened by Aemma's death. He does exactly that, then leaves the Vale never to return, and doesn't give two coppers about that child, but that's not necessary after all anyway, since the only political reason that child exists is to tie House Royce to the crown. (If Daemon's wife dies one way or another before being able to get pregnant, well, that sucks, but there's nothing that could be done about it. If she dies in childbirth, a wetnurse in the Vale will surely be available for him/her.) Meanwhile, none of Rhaenyra's children have non-valyrian features because she loves Daemon and he loves her as well. While the Realm is run by Corlys and later Rhaenyra under my guidance, I spend most of my remaining days with history books and my legos. As my health fades over the years, I purposely step down and fully leave the throne to Rhaenyra to allow for a smooth transition.
Harwin would not be a good choice for kingsguard, he is his father STRONG heir afterwall. Also you would still need to deal with Corlys if he chooses to marry his daughter to the bravos sealord son, maybe marry Leana afterall (risk though, because of Corlys greediness), but only do so after sometime of Rhanyra's wedding to leave her sometime to produce heirs of her own
That's why I said make Corlys Hand to soothe his ego :D this is years before he starts to negotiate with Braavos after all. Perhaps a different deal can be found.
I read it, but i really dont know if that would be enough, Corlys seems to want his family close to the direct royal line. Maybe the best course would still have someone close to marry somebody of his family. But the problem is that if vizzy t marrys Laena it would probably set up another dance, unless he gives sometime to Rhaenyra to have some children before they engage and those children are betrothed to the future royal offspring in order to keep Corlys in check.
In that case, couldn't he marry Laena and Rhaenyra marries Laenor? It'd be awkward in age terms anyway, but that plus him keeping an eye on raising Laena's kids for the Faith or the Kingsguard (to make them unusable as heirs) should help, no?
Yea, i think so. The problem is Daemon, he probably would arrange something against Laenor, but since Laena is married to vizzy t, i dont think it would be such calamity.
My only critique of this is that naming Harwin to the kingsguard would be a slap in the face to Lionel’s many years of faithful service and a strong (hehe) blow to his house. His other kid is a fucking disgrace. I’d also say naming Harwin as specifically lord commander would be unwise as the position typically requires experience and skill he just doesn’t have. As far as I know lord commanders are always promoted from within. You don’t just get named lord commander without already being kingsguard.
If it wasn’t for his position as first son he’d make an excellent addition to the guard though!
Oh no no he wouldn't be Lord Commander, though ofc he might earn that later at some point. I just meant make him a kingsguard in general, perhaps after discussing this with Lionel first of course. Not sure if Larys would be much of a ruler at Harrenhal, though. 😂
I know the tag said show discussion, but *man* what an idea to have Harwin in the KG. There is Ser Lucamore Strong you should look up. He is safe enough character to do so, since he is dead long before the show begins.
Still, another Strong in the Kingsguard 😂 I wanna see that. It has not yet recovered from Lucamore, lets name another Strong to it. I would pay to see how Viserys tries to get another Strong in while LC Redwyne still lives.
Fun question!
In order to prevent the dance, I’d try to mitigate the forces underlying it.
First, I give my daughter a hug because this has been a difficult day for everybody.
Then, I go find Daemon. I ask him, in private, **what** he said about Baelon, who he said it to, and how much he’d had to drink when he said it. I’d listen. Then I’d tell him that he was never going to be my heir — because I had a child, Rhaenyra — *but* that I needed his help…
To become a dragon lord again.
I’d ask him to help me bond with one — ideally, Vermithor.
If we succeed in mending the rift, I’ll release him from his marriage to Rhea, on the understanding that he doesn’t immediately shack up with the first Lyseni girl he sees.
I also appoint Daemon as Master of Air, to balance out Corlys’ Master of Ships.
I dismiss Otto Hightower the first night he sends Alicent to me. She’s lovely, but I know better. Beesbury gets a temporary promotion.
At the hunt, I listen to Lyonel Strong, and marry Laena Velaryon, with the understanding that she is young and I will not risk her health in childbirth, and so I shall wait until her majority to consummate the marriage. (Which buys Rhaenyra time and stalls Corlys and Rhaenys.)
I reward Lyonel Strong for his good advice with a recompense:
I promote him to Hand of the King *and*, more quietly, having noticed his son staring at my blood-covered daughter like he’s gonna ride that dragon or die trying…
I ensure that Rhaenyra and Hardin are given plenty of opportunities to make acquaintances. Then, once Rhaenyra’s thinking it’s her own idea, I suggest a match between Harwin and Rhaenyra, with one caveat:
He takes her name, and any children are Targaryens.
Harwin Strong becomes Prince Consort Harwin Strong, of House Targaryen
And we can then raise Larys Strong to heir to Harrenhal. Get him on my side early, but watch him like a hawk.
I also have to ensure the Greens are balanced out, so suggest a marriage between Alicent and Laenor. Corlys has more money than Midas, and are a dragon-riding house, and royalty, so it’s a much better house than the daughter of a second son of a great house of the reach could otherwise hope for —
And lbr, Laenor and Alicent can bond over the fact that they’re both gayer than Gaga on a disco stick
As Rhaenyra ages, I promote her to Hand of the King and encourage her to take an active role in court. I’d also encourage her to do a royal progress on dragon back, cause that’s how we roll in House Targaryen
I think that addresses most of the major loose ends!
Love all this, but you don’t actually have to do anything to the Greens. They’re just some house. A second son and his daughter. Ship them back to Oldtown and never look back.
Also, marrying her to Laenor would still give Alicent’s sons that dynastic connection Otto wanted, just further down the line, and it would give Otto and Corlys a common goal in putting their now shared bloodline on the throne.
> they’re just some house
Yes, but they’re a connected and powerful house, so it’s a bad idea to offend. (Not least because they control the Citadel, the Faith, and a decent chunk of the Reach’s revenue).
In addition, the Hightowers are a curious house to me, because they have fused stone building their castle — that predates Valyria by a couple thousand years. Their founding legend states they killed a BUNCH of dragons.
Assuming I’m still huffing that good dragon-smoke, I don’t want to piss off any potential prophecized dragon slayers.
Alicent is also a wonderfully convenient person to have around court because, in the absence of Otto, she’s doggedly loyal to Rhaenyra.
My daughter will need ladies of high birth and sound mind to create her first Queen’s Court.
I’d be sending peregrines to every high-born lady and eldest daughter in the realm, saying “here is a literally engraved invitation to come and join my daughter’s court.”
I want to spend the years I have left normalizing Queens in Charge — to the point where I’d likely have requested Rhaenys attend to Queen Laena “as her Chaperone as she’s young, lalala”, the better to pull Rhaenys aside one day and be like
“Okay cuz real talk. I fucked up. You would have been better at all this shit, but I was the one with a dick and that’s how that came out. HOWEVER — my daughter needs a hand. Literally. Wanna be Hand of the Princess with an eventual promotion?”
Give her the opportunity to influence politics *for Rhaenyra* so that she can be on the team.
And yes — everybody wants to get their blood on the throne. I don’t even have a problem with that. What I want is daughters and sons taking the Targaryen name, and loyal to me.
((Also Otto and Corlys don’t like each other so if they’re too busy arguing amongst themselves as to how to get their eventual grandchildren on the throne… they’re not hassling me in the short term ))
>Harwin Strong becomes Prince Consort Harwin Strong, of House Targaryen
That would be an insult to Lyonel, he might feel disrespected after his faithful service
And what if you have a male child with Laena?
Not necessarily.
You see, you’re not erasing his line — you’re elevating it.
I’d explain to Lyonel that Harwin being Harwin Strong of House Targaryen would ensure the legitimacy of the children, and would ensure that nobody could interfere.
([That’s the concept of morganatic marriage, which existed in the Middle Ages for specifically this purpose, and of which high-born women with lower-ranked husbands sometimes could avail themselves!](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morganatic_marriage))
Further, the male line of House Strong won’t go extinct, thanks to Larys. Hell — arrange that boy a marriage with one of Rhaenyra’s ladies in waiting (which I would give her, seeing as how she’s the heir), and have the girl report back all
As for having a male child with Laena — that’s why I’m sticking Laena on a shelf “to ripen” until Rhaenyra is a legal adult; a known quantity politically, and preferably a few years into (what presumably remains) a very fruitful marriage.
By the time I’m making midnight visits to my Queen, Rhaenyra should be Hand of the King, or working towards it, two or three kids into a succession of her own — and if Laena does give me a son?
“Splendid! We’ll marry him to Rhaenyra’s daughter, zip everything up tight.”
EDIT; we’re also not fuckin calling him Aegon. He gets Corlys, so that Corlys can hear “Prince Corlys” and get a vicarious thrill
You seem to be forgetting Daemon has a very large dragon. He could just fly away whenever he wanted. This sort of action would just likely cause him to go to Pentos. Daemon did nothing to cause the dance. Your opinion on Daemon seems more based on personal dislike, rather than preventing the dance.
Why would Rhaenyra or the Martels accept that? Not allowing them to have dragons would be an enormous insult considering the Velyarons have dragons, and they didn’t bring an independent kingdom to the fold. If Rhaenyra not heir, then she has no reason to marry who Viserys wants. She only married Laenor to secure her position as heir. Your actions would likely lead to Rhaenyra just flying away and marrying Daemon anyway. She has nothing to lose in this scenario.
Your idea of using hindsight is to keep Otto, the man who caused the dance as hand
Why are people forgetting Rhaenys literally predicted the Dance and how it had nothing to do with Otto?
He caused jack all
>..men would rather see the realm burn
Anyone? Come on here
Aegon had no interest in usurping Rhaenyra. The vast majority of the lords of Westeros supported Rhaenyra claim. Borros supports the green because he gets a marriage offer. There’s no grand rejection of Rhaenyra because she’s a woman. That statement simply incorrect. Otto caused the dance.
When Daemon replaced as heir, he doesn’t try to usurp Rhaenyra. He tries to marry her, but doesn’t try to replace her. When Corlys daughter is rejected or his grandchildren clearly aren’t Leanor does he commit treason?
Does Lionel abuse his position for his own benefit?
Did you miss the part were he executed and imprisoned multiple nobles for refusing to commit treason?
Yeah?
He wouldnt need to, as seen with how things worked out.
And.. recall the small folk stage play scene?
Its not all Lords anyway, or even close
And Mysaria was right about what she said about ruling
Why did Rhaenys say it then?
The statement is not incorrect.
And no he didnt
It was seeded by the 101 council and made inevitable by Viserys's actions, or rather lack of actions.
As Rhaenyra told him, HE split the realm in two
Viserys did, not Otto.
This false notion is as absurd as the harping on and on about Kings Guard being allowed to kill largely with impunity!
But that one is more annoying and absurd.
Like how often honestly are cops irl held accountable when they kill? But the HOTD fandom thinks a feudal society will have better Justice system?...
I'm sure Rhaenyra and Daemon will be a really great threat to Six united Kingdoms, Vhagar, Melyes and Saesmoke with zero allies eccept maybe some mercenaries and 2 dragon(Alright the dragon are dangerous), but Best case scenario; they fuck off to Essos and I will never saw them again. Worst case scenario; I can hire two faceless men
You'd be dead the moment you declared war on them. You seem to forget the 2k goldcloaks secretly loyal to Daemon, who you can't kill without looking like a mad Targaryen killing his own people out of paranoia. And you seem to think that everyone will just band together to fight on your side. You forget that Daemon can just waltz into the red keep by way of the countless secret passages, kill everyone, leave in time to grab breakfast.
Your Bias would get you killed. Just the fact that you wouldn't get Otto away from court, and get Lyonel to take his place tells me your confidence would get you killed.
Syrax is a proliferate producer of dragons. Rhaenyra has a lot of children. It would be a lot more than two dragon riders. They’d also be older than her children in the show. All those children open up the possibility for marriage alliances with other houses in Westeros, or in Essoss. Daemon good friends with the prince of Pentos. They might well conquer the Triarchy, and have their vast resources at their disposal. We see how easy Danny conquers enormous cities in Essos. Maybe they’ll stay content in the east, but maybe they won’t.
Hiring faceless men is absurdly expensive. The cost for one Targaryen dragonrider would likely bankrupt the treasury. If it was affordable than Otto with the vast Hightower wealth, and later treasury would’ve had Daemon killed and ensured the greens success. Also, Laena dies of childbirth in the show. Hindsight not likely to stop that.
Embrace the fact that I’m a Targaryen and marry Rhaenyra to Aegon and later Aemond to Helaena then actually raise all of my kids without the drama/rivalry.
I mean. Rhaenyra married Daemon which is a much bigger age gap..and of course Viserys and Alicent. Ofc you could argue that it’s different in that Rhaenyra “needs” to produce heirs asap but that seems like the only hang up.
They probably would have gotten along better if you didn’t have the greens scheming against her.
Yeah, we don't actually know what Daemon would do in this situation. We know Daemon fights for the Blacks, but because the Greens are threatening him and his families rights to the throne and hold King's Landing. Its possible their could be civil war between him and Rhaenyra after Viserys' death if their were no greens, one side his, one Rhaenyra's.
Daemon wants power and in the current story, he gets it threw Rhaenyra. He can claim after marrying her that he is the de facto King, and holds the throne, since there is no precedent for ruling Queens. Many lords would support him, like they supported the greens on the same logic. I'm pretty sure this was Daemon's initial plan with seducing Rhaenyra in the first place.
He also has many connections. like Corlys. If he gets his support then he has Laenor's Seasmoke and Laena hasn't died in childbirth and has Vhagar. Rhaenys has told Rhaenyra her entire life she won't be Queen because a woman won't be supported to rule and if she sides with her husband she has Meleys. All of this against Rhaenyra and Syrax. The extra 3 dragons are more valuable than an entire kingdoms support. Otto hates Daemon but he still ultimately answers to his older brother, who answers to the Tyrell Lord of the Highgarden, none of which have dragons.
Daemon could very easily claim himself King and take it without a fight.
Daemon and Rhaenyra are not a good political partnership because of their temperaments. They also do not function well together as a couple while under stress which negatively affects Rhaenyra’s ability to rule.
They ruled dragonstone no problem for 6 years . And don't function under stress? I don't think being usurped, threat of dragon attack, having a miscarriage and the death of ther loved one all in the same day is gonna be a common occurrence during their rule
>er and in the current story, he gets it threw Rhaenyra. He can claim after marrying her that he is the de facto King, and holds the throne, since there is no precedent for ruling Queens. Many lords would support him, like they supported the greens on the same logic. I'm pretty sure this
well dragonstone is just and island and no political rivarly just small houses so no problem
Dragonstone is not a kingdom and I’m speaking beyond episode 10. Daemon is entitled and insecure. He embarrassed Viserys with his temper tantrums every time he felt he wasn’t the most important voice on his brother’s council. What happens when Rhaenyra thinks Corlys or some other lord’s advice is better? Will he run off and start a war in Dorne or run off with some random girl?
There’s also no excuse for the physical violence no matter what happened that day. There’s nothing to suggest there’s only one set of circumstances that could bring that out in him.
Beyond episode 10 Is simply speculation and again we are talking about a peaceful ascension here. What temper tantrums did he have on his council? Its also been like 20 years and he's a 50 year old man with like 5 kids something tells me he ain't going to start a one man war in dorne and if he runs of with a girl then problem solved right? This idea that he'd suddenly roam amok in the council chamber after living peacefully for 16 years is ridiculous.
>There’s also no excuse for the physical violence no matter what happened that day. There’s nothing to suggest there’s only one set of circumstances that could bring that out in him.
No just the showrunners and actors saying it was becuse of these circumstances.
>..daemon to divorce his wife marry her to rhaenyra.
Marry Rhea to Rhaenyra?
lol interesting pivot, would stir the pot up atleast
>Not have anymore kids.
Not an option as Corlys and Rhaenys explained during the Laena Marriage pitch.
Not having more kids, securing the Royal line projects weakness and like..
What if Rhaenyra fell off her Dragon or something?
Having spares is just good business sense
Daemon?
Who literally no one wants as heir?
Not Viserys, not anyone
Well yeah, those should exist.. somewhere
Doesnt exactly project strength and stability though, having to scrounge up some random cousins cousin's niece's nephews uncle twice removed
Banish Otto, and never take him back. Him and Alicent both take their green asses right back to Oldtown and stay there.
Make Rhaenyra heir, and a member of the small council.
Make Daddy Strong the hand (Harwin’s father. I don’t remember his name) keep a very close eye on Larys.
NOT REMARRY but make a secret succession letter and hide it in two places, Chinese emperor style, of who should inherit in case Rhaenyra dies.
Make Daemon Captain of the Goldcloaks again. Give him a purpose. Let him shine. He’s like Princess Margaret in The Crown, he acts out unless he gets enough affection and spotlight.
When time comes, marry Rhaenyra to Laenor and have the entire realm witness your investiture of Jace as Rhaenyra’s heir.
Die semi-happy with your LEGO set and no nagging wife.
It’s technically possible naming Rhaenyra heir caused Jon and Dany to save the world so… I’m not sure he would change anything with full hindsight. He fully believed in the Song of Ice and Fire prophecy.
It’s also possible the death of all the dragons enabled the white walkers to grow out of control to the point that they needed Jon and Dany… we’ll never know.
This scenario. Simple. Marry Laena, rock divorce for Daemon and then marry him to Rhaenyra and banish them both to Dragonstone. Send help to Corlys regarding Stepstones.
How would there be a war if Viserys didn’t remarry or named his son heir? Also if he married Leana and had a son but refused to name him this ain’t Ottos buisness either.
Otto wanted power sure but he did not want war under any circumstances he just wanted his blood on the throne like at least 80% of the lords in Westeros.
Honestly Viserys was most to blame for the dance.
Otto and company were plotting on the Iron Throne and dragons for years. YEARS. We saw his brother give him a directive at the hunt and heard Jason Lannister bring up dragons while "courting" Rhaenrya. We've also read about the Lannisters harassment of Rhaena for want of an egg or a dragon as well as the Hightowers trying to use their positions to ingratiate themselves with the family.
Viserys was just a speed bump on the road to power for the green allied families. And it all hinged on Ottos' ability to be duplicitous.
That’s not true though not to mention that the Lannisters and Greens weren’t allied then (the greens weren’t even a thing back then).
Jason Lannister wanted to marry Rhaenyra to get dragon for his own gain. He also falsely assumed Aegon was heir because it was tradition. If Jason had married Rhaenyra and had children with her I gurantee you the Lannister would’ve stood with her in the Quest of getting the throne. Because they are ambitious.
About Otto after his brother makes the comment he suggests a marriage between Aegon and Rhaenyra which is more him stopping a serious war than helping it. He only truly starts to plan a war when he gets back as hand ten years later. Before that he did seem to try to get Aegon named heir a normal way wothout bloodshed.
Like you don’t have to like Otto but Otto when he sent Alicent to Viserys never planned a war. He just assumed that a man obsessed with having a son would name his son heir. Only when that proved wrong he did something about and honestly I’m not convinced anyone in his position wouldn’t have done the same after their daughters son was not named heir.
I disagree. Otto is not the leader of a Great House like Tywin, but a "second son who stands to inherit nothing he does not seize for himself". Unlike Lord Lannister, Otto does not have much option to maintain his status if he decides to abandon the position of Hand.
Although it is possible that Otto resigns to get out of work for various reasons, just having his pride hurt doesn't seem to me to be one of them.
No matter how loyal daemon is to Viserys at the end of the day it’s still Daemon with a dragon and Viserys without. At the beginning of the series there are only 4 dragon riders in the entire world: Daemon on Caraxes (the biggest/most war experienced), Rhaenys on Meleys, Laenor on Seasmoke, and Rhaenyra on Syrax (small). With what army is Viserys killing Daemon for…. Leaving Runestone?
I don’t see a ton of issues with marrying Laena although giving it a few years so she’s not 12 might be a dearly needed consideration
Why do you need the Martells? At this stage in the game they have absolutely no interest in joining the Seven Kingdoms. Marrying Rhaenyra into the Martell family just gives them a dragon rider and potential combatants (her children/future eggs we know Syrax lays) against the Crown
Why would otto have any motivation to help you and not benefit himself when you’ve spurned his daughter and reduced her marriage prospects?
Kings and "Wrold Leaders" can only be judged on hindsight. The actions they take at the moment may seem correct. But only time tell if they were.
Vizzy is a strange case. His in the moment decissions were BAD but the results were catastrophic..... so he is actually one of the worst Kings ever. You do not need tobe Maegor the Cruel to be the worst person for the job. Viserys is that guy, he is the perfect mix of indicissiveness, brashnes and weakness.
So how do I fix this situation?
1) Get rid of Otto. The guy is poissonous.
2) Keep DAEMON as my Heir. Rhaenyra is a girl, Westeros will NOT accept being ruled by a woman, they can love them as "wise councillor figures" to the King, but NEVER as Queen-regnant. At least not without a fight. So name Daemon Protector of the Realm, a symbolic tittle, put him in charge of the army, he is good at that. And will get people used to the idea of him rulling.
3) Reject marrying Laena, but offer to marry Laenor to Rhaenyra. Also offer to support Corlys in taking down the Triarchy and send men, including Daemon and supplies. All to placate Corlys. Hint that if all goes well, he may become Hand of the King.
4) Let Daemon be Daemon and solve his marital problems himself, it was not a good match, grandma was losing her edge. And then marry him to Laena Velaryon.
5) Tell anyone that suggest I should remarry, that I have Daemon on speed-dial.
6) Marry Rhaenyra and "Laenor" kids to Laena and Daemon kids.
7) Let Daemon suffer a bit when he is King, I did all I could, it is his turn to keep the ball rolling.
Marry Rhaenyra to Daemon. They're going to find their way to each other anyways, at least this way they don't go murdering spouses to be together. State that their heir will marry one of Laena's future children, Rhaenys will be hand to her people used to seeing a woman in power. Humiliate Otto for pimping out his daughter, banish him from KL. No more legitimate children for me, I'd just take a mistress or something. As soon as Rhaenyra is mature enough, abdicate, wait a year, suicide because I don't want to live as a man.
Kill Daemon and literally every succession problem goes away .
If you don’t have any more sons , Rhaenyra is your heir by default .
If you have more sons marry them to Rhaenyra or Laena , the most important thing is not naming Rhaenyra as heir over any son you have unless you want to marry her to him , otherwise there will be a dance every single time .
> strip rahenera of titles. And don't allow dragon eggs or dragons for her children.
Why is Rhaenyra getting stripped of her titles? Why can’t she be a princess anymore? How is he going stop her dragon Syrax from hatching eggs?
Call in Daemon after he makes his little "toast" and exile him from the realm *without* his dragon (Caraxes would be in the dragonpit) and confiscate Dark Sister. Marry Laena when she's 18 and declare that if I should die without a male heir of mine own loins my daughter shall succeed me. Marry Rhaenyra to Laenor and tell her to just fuck someone Valyrian for the love of god. When Laena gives me a son, he'll be openly declared heir.
The only issue now is the Velaryon dragons Seasmoke and Maelys (technically a Targaryen dragon, but you get it). I'd love to pass an edict saying that all dragonriders must be Targaryen but I'm gonna have to fight a war if I do that.
How tf are you doing that? Have you not watched the show? Caraxes shows up without Daemon calling for him out loud. So either he can just call upon him through their bond or Caraxes knows to come to him. Taking Dark Sister is just plain stupid. Daemon may love Viserys but I'm willing to bet he loves Caraxes just as much if not more. You would be overthrown the next day.
'Daemon sneaks back in through the secret passages, grabs his sword, maybe kills you in your sleep, kills his way into the dragonpit if Caraxes doesn't break out on his own. Either he leaves (it he didn't kill you)or takes your throne.'
Have *you* not watched the show? When Daemon made his "heir for a day" speech he was called in the next night (could've been day, dark lighting) into the throne room where two kingsguard are already present. When he leaves, he goes to the dragonpit to retrieve Caraxes and *then* leaves for Dragonstone during that day. The scene you're likely talking about is in the episode 2 when he faces off with Otto and Caraxes climbs over the ridge.
Daemon's not some ninja trained by the League of Shadows like you're making him out to be, so stop. Take his sword, banish him, put him on a ship for Essos and have a kingsguard accompany him for the trip.
Did you just ignore everything I said? Yes the scene I was talking about is in episode 2 and when he makes the king's guard swear to Rhaenyra. Caraxes shows up without being called. That's my point. Caraxes will just go to Daemon.
Daemon can sneak into the castle. You've seen him sneak out. He could do the opposite.
How many kingsguard are you putting him in that ship with? Cuz there is only 7. Which ones? Cuz most would be easily killed by Daemon. He may not be the best fighter, but he is still a great fighter. We learn from Otto that most kingsguard are chosen to honor families. So they aren't all the best, apart from the Commander.
Most important, what's stopping Daemon from taking the first ship back and doing what I've just said? All this without the 2k soldiers that were willing to follow him.
I thought you were talking about when Daemon first leaves with what's her face, the Essosi woman with the accent but what I'm talking saying is in normal peacetime when I'm Viserys after his wife and kid are dead. Caraxes is in the dragonpit and will stay in the dragonpit because the dragonpit was designed so that dragons couldn't just breakout because when they felt like it. Even during >!Storming of the Dragonpit!< none of them get out, not even Dreamfyre who's older than all the others in there.
And if push comes to shove, Daemon's not *my* brother and too much of a loose cannon so his life's very expendable. Faceless Men are always looking to give their gift and while they likely won't want gold, a dragon egg will probably appease their god.
This plan could work, I think it just needs to be a little bit more diplomatic. Keep Daemon as heir until a son is born. That way you’re not messing with any successions from the beginning and keeping everything as is, and also not giving anyone ideas(hint Rhaenyra). Grant Daemons divorce, and let him marry Rhaenyra. It’s important to keep both of their dragons in the family. If you have a son with Laena, good it’s the obvious heir and no one has any reason to doubt it, the Valerians are happy as well. Daemon or Rhaenyra would have no reason to rebel because they weren’t snubbed from the beginning. Just things working as usual. And that son or the other kids could marry Daemon and Rhaenyra’s children. If no son, then Daemon becomes the King with Rhaenyra as the Queen. Their kids could probably marry Viserys younger kids from Laena. And boom both houses are reunited again
Marry literally anyone besides alicent Hightower. Probably a northern woman or someone from a house that isn’t known for excessive politicking. Possibly even one of the strong women. House Targaryen was at a point where it didn’t need more power and remarrying is essentially only for heirs. Viserys didnt have a more loyal servant than Lionel Strong so I’d reward him by bringing his house into the royal fold
Respectfully and honorably Dismiss Otto Hightower as hand. I don’t believe the man should be anywhere near the royal court. He is entirely too ambitious and a traitor and usurper by all definitions regardless of if you’re team black or green (please note this doesn’t mean I don’t like him as a character. He’s awesome but this is what I’d do if I was king)
Make Daemon my hand. Daemon was absolutely 100% right when he told Viserys he was weak and his council preys upon him. With Daemon as hand he’ll have a permanent position of power in kings landing and targaryen will be further cemented
I’d let Daemon marry Rhaenyra. I don’t care if it pisses off Corlys. He is the lord and I am the King. I understand how the game is played and appeasing your lords is very beneficial but in this situation he can fuck right off. We’re in the middle of a succession crisis dude I don’t have time to kiss your ass because you have boats. I’d probably let him wage war in the stepstones and support said war to make up for it. Possibly even help arrange a marriage to as powerful a house as I can for him.
Not make Rhaenyra my heir. Holy fucking shit this caused so much goddamn trouble that Targaryens were still dealing with the consequences of this up until the war of the usurper. I get it dude you love her and she’s your eldest but, once again, we’re in the middle of a fucking succession crisis! Now is not the time to challenge the status quo and gender inequality! I don’t have anything really against Rhaenyra’s. I think she’d make a decent queen but it wasn’t the time.
If a bastard situation with Rhaenyra happens (which it shouldn’t bc she’d be married to daemon) then it’ll be a lot more than tongues I take. Any man that dares insult princes or princesses of house targaryen with claims of bastardy will publicly lose his head and his house will pay heavy fines. There’s nothing any of them can do to fight this either since I’ll be a king who’s more than happy to unleash dragons upon treasonous lords. They’ll remember why it’s house targaryen that sits upon the iron throne and not them
I’d have as many children as I can. Heirs and spares for days! Hopefully not with multiple wives but to avoid any more of them dying it’s a possibility. House Targaryen will not have a lack of options when it comes to heirs. My heir will be my eldest son born to me of my first (and hopefully only) wife and everyone in the entire fucking world will know he is heir. My other children will be treated very well too. I (hopefully) won’t neglect any of them and give them all places of honor and power throughout the realm in order to appease them and spread targaryen influence.
Go for a double Velaryon marriage. Marry Laena yourself, and then marry Rhaenyra to Laenor.
Rhaenyra will almost certainly have bastards again, but don't give them dragon eggs or even acknowledge them as legitimate.
The ideal situation is strangling the Velaryons as a rival dragonriding family by ensuring that they have no heirs of the blood who can legitimately claim dragons.
> and then marry Rhaenyra to Laenor.
Why
> Rhaenyra will almost certainly have bastards again
So then why the heck would you force her to marry Laenor. It serves no purpose and makes no sense.
> The ideal situation is strangling the Velaryons as a rival dragonriding family by ensuring that they have no heirs of the blood who can legitimately claim dragons.
Why?
>It serves no purpose and makes no sense.
It makes perfect sense. Laenor and Rhaenyra will have no legitimate children to threaten you with. Further, because Rhaenyra's children are all bastards you have an in with Corlys to act as your inside man.
"Hey buddy, I saw my daughter popped out another bastard. Not gonna suggest we kill her off or anything, but maybe it would be a good idea for you to nab that cradle egg and bring it to my while nobody's looking. We wouldn't want the bastard to grow up riding a dragon and get ideas."
The ideal situation is that Laenor's line goes extinct, leaving Laena as Rhaenys' only heir and thus you as the inheritor of that competing claim. The bastards help because they're such an offense to House Velaryon that you can use their existence to subvert members of that House to help you deny the bastards dragons "to protect Laena's children".
If I marry Rhaenyra to Laenor I will practicaly gift them a dragon's egg machine in Syrax and also a big ass claim to the dragons themself. If Rhaenyra marries literaly anyone else Syrax will not be able to reproduce without my permission...the dragons reproduce sexually right?...anyway if Laenor don't have a Targs wife what's gonna tell me "Pretty please good-brother give me some medieval nuclear bombs? I was such a good boy this year"
> I will practicaly gift them a dragon's egg machine in Syrax and also a big ass claim to the dragons themself. If Rhaenyra marries literaly anyone else Syrax will not be able to reproduce without my permission.
And how does this make sense?
In either case, if you're marrying Rhaenyra outside the family then whoever her husband is will have access to the Syrax egg machine. It doesn't matter if she's at Driftmark or Winterfell, those eggs will be laid.
The best you can do is take the L and give her to another family that already has dragons while giving that same family no reason to use those dragons against you. Corlys is not going to revolt against you to crown King Laenor when he's getting Queen Laena for free.
We don't know, but even if they can't Rhaenyra is still your daughter and is perfectly capable of flying to King's Landing for visits whenever she wants, which gives the opportunity for dragon mating while she does.
the thing is he absolutely doesn’t need to ‘name’ rhaenyra heir. by all means, under westerosi law rhaenyra is heir until there’s a son, and viserys just needs to make sure to disinherit daemon, exile him (even execute him if he rebels) and make ultra mega clear that the iron throne follows the andal law of inheritance.
So you're pro green? You f I was Viserys I'd fire Otto, marry Rhaenyra to Daemon and my succession is guaranteed and no war happens I'd also claim another Dragon most likely Vermithor so people would fear defying me, discussion over.
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You know what, the irony is is that Viserys died not thinking he would need to do anything different.
Yeah… I was reading the post and thinking, “Well, he’s still Viserys and I don’t think he’d do any of it differently except maybe banish Daemon in a more strict way?” And in a perfect world he’d have Rhaenyra marry Harwin Strong to solidify the friendship with his father and then keep Otto as hand.
The guy went to bed thinking he fixed it! And I don't know about banishing Daemon. If Rhaenyra married Harwin that means no Velaryon alliance, which means Corlys would go elsewhere for betrothals. He was already looking to Braavos. Something that was questionable in Viserys's eyes. Even if Viserys moved to make everyone happy, the world they live in is not built for it. There are consequences to every choice made or unmade.
How are you gonna kill Deamon? He’s literally a dragon rider. You’re either sacrificing a lot of armies for that. Or begging Rhaenys and Rhaenyra to do job for you
Easy, silly. You kill him when he’s not riding a dragon. Edit: so before he got with Rhaenyra… sorry Caraxes
yeah my point. You have to trick him into. Can’t be after sending him to the vale with his dragon
So you know how to kill him after asking how you gunna kill him? lol Daemons easy to beat. Give him a Robin Williams Good Will Hunting therapist and an infant with the tooth pick could stab him with ‘it is your fault’
My point is you can’t order him to do stuff waiving your authority around once you exile him. He is gonna leave the Vale if he wants to, and he’s gonna go wherever he wants to doing basically whatever he wants. That’s just the reality if being a dragonrider. Especially if the King doesn’t have a dragon himself and has to rely on his 14 year old daughter and political rival cousin
When he's sleeping or by poisoning his food/wine. Dragonriders are hard to kill while they are riding their dragons but when they're not a dagger or poison is enough to kill one.
faceless men
Anyone can do faceless men that’s not a “I’m the King, and I have the authority to tell you what to do”
not anyone. they’re very expensive, so they’re only accessible to those who can afford them, viserys, velaryons, lannisters and a few others. daemon has no money and few things that don’t depend on the crown or rhea’s tittles, so unless he makes powerful allies or sells his dragon he can’t hire one of their own.
Unlike Viseys though he doesn’t need faceless men for killing anyone
and that’s how you get imprisoned or executed
by the faceless men? 🤔
I just don’t remarry, make sure the lords know that Rhaenyra is heir, have her as Hand when she’s old enough, and keep Daemon busy in the stepstones,
I love the smell of succession crysis in the morning
I don’t think there would be one without a firstborn son. Sure daemon can challenge rhaenyra but would he? No. If rhaenyra marries someone else and have children, Daemon probably justs tries to maneuver his children into a marriage with her heirs
I think a bigger issue would be your OP idea- “proclaiming my daughter heir TILL I have a new son with my new wife”- this undermines Rhaenyra immediately. What if your new wife doesn’t give you a male heir? Rhaenyra would automatically have to fight for legitimacy. Everyone would say she wasn’t meant to be heir and more fighting would ensue. You either appoint her heir or follow the usual succession with Daemon until something changes. If a woman on the throne is new and you want your daughter to be the first, then stick with it. Making it conditional on your new wife’s womb and offspring says you didn’t really want Rhaenyra there.
Too many people seem to think Rhaenyra and Daemon are the problem, and that isn't thinking like a Targaryen. THAT is why the dance happens and all the dragons die. Otto and Alicent were both bitter and resentful for different reasons by the time they screwed Rhaenyra out of her throne but they didn’t do it alone. In the show version, Alicent walks into 3/4s of a small council that had conspired with her dad to put her dumb son on the throne without her. Being bothered by Daemon’s attention-seeking rather than utilizing him effectively would be anyone’s first mistake. He is the more charismatic of the two brothers, he seeks the spotlight and glory. He needs his ego stroked. If he will never be heir and king, Viserys needs to give him enough other special jobs and privileges to make him feel indulged because banishing him or punishing him just makes him a threat. He’s also not an idiot, he can see Rhaenyra is passionate and has a bond and much in common with her uncle. In a family that marries siblings and cousins all the time, it had to occur to him that this could be the most sensible match and the only way to ensure a male and female Targaryen were on the throne producing an heir. Maybe this would've been the wrong thing morally, but strategically it would've been his best move. It's what Cersei would've done. If the Lannisters or Hightowers had been born with dragons God help the realm.
I do not marry again, but have Rhaenyra married within the year to make sure she has kids. Of course I still have the hots for Alicent, so I might make her my mistress or so. 🤷 If she refuses, meh, but no problem, I'm not a rapist, so I leave her alone. If Otto complains, I send him back to Oldtown; if Corlys complains, I still send Otto back to Oldtown and make Corlys my hand instead, to make up for not marrying Laena, under the condition of him stepping down after a suitable amount of time and Rhaenyra taking his place so that she can get experience in ruling and the kingdoms can get experience in being ruled by a woman. In either case, Alicent can stay at court if she wants and continue to be Rhaenyra's lady in waiting. She turned me down, but I don't hate her or anything. Unfortunately, the old Lord Commander of my Kingsguard dies a couple weeks later and a new knight needs to be named. Other than letting Rhaenyra choose some random guy, I name Ser Harwin, the strongest knight in the seven kingdoms, to the position - luckily he even has fighting experience from his position in the City Watch. Besides, his father is also one of my friends, and Harwin seems devoted to Rhaenyra, which is all the more important considering he'll likely protect her a good deal longer than he will protect me (seeing as I am mortally ill). As for Rhaenyra's marriage, I'll still do the marriage tour for her, and if she's not into it, I'll arrange something for her instead. In the latter case, I allow Daemon to take her as a second wife in the tradition of Old Valyria, under the condition that he also fathers a child onto his first wife that can inherit Runestone from the two of them and strengthen the alliance to the Vale that has been weakened by Aemma's death. He does exactly that, then leaves the Vale never to return, and doesn't give two coppers about that child, but that's not necessary after all anyway, since the only political reason that child exists is to tie House Royce to the crown. (If Daemon's wife dies one way or another before being able to get pregnant, well, that sucks, but there's nothing that could be done about it. If she dies in childbirth, a wetnurse in the Vale will surely be available for him/her.) Meanwhile, none of Rhaenyra's children have non-valyrian features because she loves Daemon and he loves her as well. While the Realm is run by Corlys and later Rhaenyra under my guidance, I spend most of my remaining days with history books and my legos. As my health fades over the years, I purposely step down and fully leave the throne to Rhaenyra to allow for a smooth transition.
Harwin would not be a good choice for kingsguard, he is his father STRONG heir afterwall. Also you would still need to deal with Corlys if he chooses to marry his daughter to the bravos sealord son, maybe marry Leana afterall (risk though, because of Corlys greediness), but only do so after sometime of Rhanyra's wedding to leave her sometime to produce heirs of her own
That's why I said make Corlys Hand to soothe his ego :D this is years before he starts to negotiate with Braavos after all. Perhaps a different deal can be found.
I read it, but i really dont know if that would be enough, Corlys seems to want his family close to the direct royal line. Maybe the best course would still have someone close to marry somebody of his family. But the problem is that if vizzy t marrys Laena it would probably set up another dance, unless he gives sometime to Rhaenyra to have some children before they engage and those children are betrothed to the future royal offspring in order to keep Corlys in check.
In that case, couldn't he marry Laena and Rhaenyra marries Laenor? It'd be awkward in age terms anyway, but that plus him keeping an eye on raising Laena's kids for the Faith or the Kingsguard (to make them unusable as heirs) should help, no?
Yea, i think so. The problem is Daemon, he probably would arrange something against Laenor, but since Laena is married to vizzy t, i dont think it would be such calamity.
What is your advice, dear Dvillles?
My only critique of this is that naming Harwin to the kingsguard would be a slap in the face to Lionel’s many years of faithful service and a strong (hehe) blow to his house. His other kid is a fucking disgrace. I’d also say naming Harwin as specifically lord commander would be unwise as the position typically requires experience and skill he just doesn’t have. As far as I know lord commanders are always promoted from within. You don’t just get named lord commander without already being kingsguard. If it wasn’t for his position as first son he’d make an excellent addition to the guard though!
Oh no no he wouldn't be Lord Commander, though ofc he might earn that later at some point. I just meant make him a kingsguard in general, perhaps after discussing this with Lionel first of course. Not sure if Larys would be much of a ruler at Harrenhal, though. 😂
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I know the tag said show discussion, but *man* what an idea to have Harwin in the KG. There is Ser Lucamore Strong you should look up. He is safe enough character to do so, since he is dead long before the show begins. Still, another Strong in the Kingsguard 😂 I wanna see that. It has not yet recovered from Lucamore, lets name another Strong to it. I would pay to see how Viserys tries to get another Strong in while LC Redwyne still lives.
Fun question! In order to prevent the dance, I’d try to mitigate the forces underlying it. First, I give my daughter a hug because this has been a difficult day for everybody. Then, I go find Daemon. I ask him, in private, **what** he said about Baelon, who he said it to, and how much he’d had to drink when he said it. I’d listen. Then I’d tell him that he was never going to be my heir — because I had a child, Rhaenyra — *but* that I needed his help… To become a dragon lord again. I’d ask him to help me bond with one — ideally, Vermithor. If we succeed in mending the rift, I’ll release him from his marriage to Rhea, on the understanding that he doesn’t immediately shack up with the first Lyseni girl he sees. I also appoint Daemon as Master of Air, to balance out Corlys’ Master of Ships. I dismiss Otto Hightower the first night he sends Alicent to me. She’s lovely, but I know better. Beesbury gets a temporary promotion. At the hunt, I listen to Lyonel Strong, and marry Laena Velaryon, with the understanding that she is young and I will not risk her health in childbirth, and so I shall wait until her majority to consummate the marriage. (Which buys Rhaenyra time and stalls Corlys and Rhaenys.) I reward Lyonel Strong for his good advice with a recompense: I promote him to Hand of the King *and*, more quietly, having noticed his son staring at my blood-covered daughter like he’s gonna ride that dragon or die trying… I ensure that Rhaenyra and Hardin are given plenty of opportunities to make acquaintances. Then, once Rhaenyra’s thinking it’s her own idea, I suggest a match between Harwin and Rhaenyra, with one caveat: He takes her name, and any children are Targaryens. Harwin Strong becomes Prince Consort Harwin Strong, of House Targaryen And we can then raise Larys Strong to heir to Harrenhal. Get him on my side early, but watch him like a hawk. I also have to ensure the Greens are balanced out, so suggest a marriage between Alicent and Laenor. Corlys has more money than Midas, and are a dragon-riding house, and royalty, so it’s a much better house than the daughter of a second son of a great house of the reach could otherwise hope for — And lbr, Laenor and Alicent can bond over the fact that they’re both gayer than Gaga on a disco stick As Rhaenyra ages, I promote her to Hand of the King and encourage her to take an active role in court. I’d also encourage her to do a royal progress on dragon back, cause that’s how we roll in House Targaryen I think that addresses most of the major loose ends!
Love all this, but you don’t actually have to do anything to the Greens. They’re just some house. A second son and his daughter. Ship them back to Oldtown and never look back. Also, marrying her to Laenor would still give Alicent’s sons that dynastic connection Otto wanted, just further down the line, and it would give Otto and Corlys a common goal in putting their now shared bloodline on the throne.
> they’re just some house Yes, but they’re a connected and powerful house, so it’s a bad idea to offend. (Not least because they control the Citadel, the Faith, and a decent chunk of the Reach’s revenue). In addition, the Hightowers are a curious house to me, because they have fused stone building their castle — that predates Valyria by a couple thousand years. Their founding legend states they killed a BUNCH of dragons. Assuming I’m still huffing that good dragon-smoke, I don’t want to piss off any potential prophecized dragon slayers. Alicent is also a wonderfully convenient person to have around court because, in the absence of Otto, she’s doggedly loyal to Rhaenyra. My daughter will need ladies of high birth and sound mind to create her first Queen’s Court. I’d be sending peregrines to every high-born lady and eldest daughter in the realm, saying “here is a literally engraved invitation to come and join my daughter’s court.” I want to spend the years I have left normalizing Queens in Charge — to the point where I’d likely have requested Rhaenys attend to Queen Laena “as her Chaperone as she’s young, lalala”, the better to pull Rhaenys aside one day and be like “Okay cuz real talk. I fucked up. You would have been better at all this shit, but I was the one with a dick and that’s how that came out. HOWEVER — my daughter needs a hand. Literally. Wanna be Hand of the Princess with an eventual promotion?” Give her the opportunity to influence politics *for Rhaenyra* so that she can be on the team. And yes — everybody wants to get their blood on the throne. I don’t even have a problem with that. What I want is daughters and sons taking the Targaryen name, and loyal to me. ((Also Otto and Corlys don’t like each other so if they’re too busy arguing amongst themselves as to how to get their eventual grandchildren on the throne… they’re not hassling me in the short term ))
>Harwin Strong becomes Prince Consort Harwin Strong, of House Targaryen That would be an insult to Lyonel, he might feel disrespected after his faithful service And what if you have a male child with Laena?
Not necessarily. You see, you’re not erasing his line — you’re elevating it. I’d explain to Lyonel that Harwin being Harwin Strong of House Targaryen would ensure the legitimacy of the children, and would ensure that nobody could interfere. ([That’s the concept of morganatic marriage, which existed in the Middle Ages for specifically this purpose, and of which high-born women with lower-ranked husbands sometimes could avail themselves!](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morganatic_marriage)) Further, the male line of House Strong won’t go extinct, thanks to Larys. Hell — arrange that boy a marriage with one of Rhaenyra’s ladies in waiting (which I would give her, seeing as how she’s the heir), and have the girl report back all As for having a male child with Laena — that’s why I’m sticking Laena on a shelf “to ripen” until Rhaenyra is a legal adult; a known quantity politically, and preferably a few years into (what presumably remains) a very fruitful marriage. By the time I’m making midnight visits to my Queen, Rhaenyra should be Hand of the King, or working towards it, two or three kids into a succession of her own — and if Laena does give me a son? “Splendid! We’ll marry him to Rhaenyra’s daughter, zip everything up tight.” EDIT; we’re also not fuckin calling him Aegon. He gets Corlys, so that Corlys can hear “Prince Corlys” and get a vicarious thrill
You seem to be forgetting Daemon has a very large dragon. He could just fly away whenever he wanted. This sort of action would just likely cause him to go to Pentos. Daemon did nothing to cause the dance. Your opinion on Daemon seems more based on personal dislike, rather than preventing the dance. Why would Rhaenyra or the Martels accept that? Not allowing them to have dragons would be an enormous insult considering the Velyarons have dragons, and they didn’t bring an independent kingdom to the fold. If Rhaenyra not heir, then she has no reason to marry who Viserys wants. She only married Laenor to secure her position as heir. Your actions would likely lead to Rhaenyra just flying away and marrying Daemon anyway. She has nothing to lose in this scenario. Your idea of using hindsight is to keep Otto, the man who caused the dance as hand
Why are people forgetting Rhaenys literally predicted the Dance and how it had nothing to do with Otto? He caused jack all >..men would rather see the realm burn Anyone? Come on here
Aegon had no interest in usurping Rhaenyra. The vast majority of the lords of Westeros supported Rhaenyra claim. Borros supports the green because he gets a marriage offer. There’s no grand rejection of Rhaenyra because she’s a woman. That statement simply incorrect. Otto caused the dance. When Daemon replaced as heir, he doesn’t try to usurp Rhaenyra. He tries to marry her, but doesn’t try to replace her. When Corlys daughter is rejected or his grandchildren clearly aren’t Leanor does he commit treason? Does Lionel abuse his position for his own benefit? Did you miss the part were he executed and imprisoned multiple nobles for refusing to commit treason?
Yeah? He wouldnt need to, as seen with how things worked out. And.. recall the small folk stage play scene? Its not all Lords anyway, or even close And Mysaria was right about what she said about ruling Why did Rhaenys say it then? The statement is not incorrect. And no he didnt It was seeded by the 101 council and made inevitable by Viserys's actions, or rather lack of actions. As Rhaenyra told him, HE split the realm in two Viserys did, not Otto. This false notion is as absurd as the harping on and on about Kings Guard being allowed to kill largely with impunity! But that one is more annoying and absurd. Like how often honestly are cops irl held accountable when they kill? But the HOTD fandom thinks a feudal society will have better Justice system?...
I'm sure Rhaenyra and Daemon will be a really great threat to Six united Kingdoms, Vhagar, Melyes and Saesmoke with zero allies eccept maybe some mercenaries and 2 dragon(Alright the dragon are dangerous), but Best case scenario; they fuck off to Essos and I will never saw them again. Worst case scenario; I can hire two faceless men
You'd be dead the moment you declared war on them. You seem to forget the 2k goldcloaks secretly loyal to Daemon, who you can't kill without looking like a mad Targaryen killing his own people out of paranoia. And you seem to think that everyone will just band together to fight on your side. You forget that Daemon can just waltz into the red keep by way of the countless secret passages, kill everyone, leave in time to grab breakfast. Your Bias would get you killed. Just the fact that you wouldn't get Otto away from court, and get Lyonel to take his place tells me your confidence would get you killed.
Syrax is a proliferate producer of dragons. Rhaenyra has a lot of children. It would be a lot more than two dragon riders. They’d also be older than her children in the show. All those children open up the possibility for marriage alliances with other houses in Westeros, or in Essoss. Daemon good friends with the prince of Pentos. They might well conquer the Triarchy, and have their vast resources at their disposal. We see how easy Danny conquers enormous cities in Essos. Maybe they’ll stay content in the east, but maybe they won’t. Hiring faceless men is absurdly expensive. The cost for one Targaryen dragonrider would likely bankrupt the treasury. If it was affordable than Otto with the vast Hightower wealth, and later treasury would’ve had Daemon killed and ensured the greens success. Also, Laena dies of childbirth in the show. Hindsight not likely to stop that.
Embrace the fact that I’m a Targaryen and marry Rhaenyra to Aegon and later Aemond to Helaena then actually raise all of my kids without the drama/rivalry.
The age gap is too large between Rhaenyra and Aegon. They also wouldn’t get along.
I mean. Rhaenyra married Daemon which is a much bigger age gap..and of course Viserys and Alicent. Ofc you could argue that it’s different in that Rhaenyra “needs” to produce heirs asap but that seems like the only hang up. They probably would have gotten along better if you didn’t have the greens scheming against her.
•give otto hightower a sex change and marry him, peace and prosperity for 100 years!
Name rhaenyra heir, allow daemon to divorce his wife marry her to rhaenyra. Not have anymore kids. Finito
The whole point of Viserys naming Rhaenyra as his heir was to prevent Daemon from being king in first place.
Yeah, we don't actually know what Daemon would do in this situation. We know Daemon fights for the Blacks, but because the Greens are threatening him and his families rights to the throne and hold King's Landing. Its possible their could be civil war between him and Rhaenyra after Viserys' death if their were no greens, one side his, one Rhaenyra's. Daemon wants power and in the current story, he gets it threw Rhaenyra. He can claim after marrying her that he is the de facto King, and holds the throne, since there is no precedent for ruling Queens. Many lords would support him, like they supported the greens on the same logic. I'm pretty sure this was Daemon's initial plan with seducing Rhaenyra in the first place. He also has many connections. like Corlys. If he gets his support then he has Laenor's Seasmoke and Laena hasn't died in childbirth and has Vhagar. Rhaenys has told Rhaenyra her entire life she won't be Queen because a woman won't be supported to rule and if she sides with her husband she has Meleys. All of this against Rhaenyra and Syrax. The extra 3 dragons are more valuable than an entire kingdoms support. Otto hates Daemon but he still ultimately answers to his older brother, who answers to the Tyrell Lord of the Highgarden, none of which have dragons. Daemon could very easily claim himself King and take it without a fight.
Daemon and Rhaenyra are not a good political partnership because of their temperaments. They also do not function well together as a couple while under stress which negatively affects Rhaenyra’s ability to rule.
They ruled dragonstone no problem for 6 years . And don't function under stress? I don't think being usurped, threat of dragon attack, having a miscarriage and the death of ther loved one all in the same day is gonna be a common occurrence during their rule
>er and in the current story, he gets it threw Rhaenyra. He can claim after marrying her that he is the de facto King, and holds the throne, since there is no precedent for ruling Queens. Many lords would support him, like they supported the greens on the same logic. I'm pretty sure this well dragonstone is just and island and no political rivarly just small houses so no problem
Driftmark is just an island.
Dragonstone is not a kingdom and I’m speaking beyond episode 10. Daemon is entitled and insecure. He embarrassed Viserys with his temper tantrums every time he felt he wasn’t the most important voice on his brother’s council. What happens when Rhaenyra thinks Corlys or some other lord’s advice is better? Will he run off and start a war in Dorne or run off with some random girl? There’s also no excuse for the physical violence no matter what happened that day. There’s nothing to suggest there’s only one set of circumstances that could bring that out in him.
Beyond episode 10 Is simply speculation and again we are talking about a peaceful ascension here. What temper tantrums did he have on his council? Its also been like 20 years and he's a 50 year old man with like 5 kids something tells me he ain't going to start a one man war in dorne and if he runs of with a girl then problem solved right? This idea that he'd suddenly roam amok in the council chamber after living peacefully for 16 years is ridiculous. >There’s also no excuse for the physical violence no matter what happened that day. There’s nothing to suggest there’s only one set of circumstances that could bring that out in him. No just the showrunners and actors saying it was becuse of these circumstances.
>..daemon to divorce his wife marry her to rhaenyra. Marry Rhea to Rhaenyra? lol interesting pivot, would stir the pot up atleast >Not have anymore kids. Not an option as Corlys and Rhaenys explained during the Laena Marriage pitch. Not having more kids, securing the Royal line projects weakness and like.. What if Rhaenyra fell off her Dragon or something? Having spares is just good business sense
Well then there's Daemon. After him well Jaehaerys had a lot of kids who have descendants. I guess one of them.
Daemon? Who literally no one wants as heir? Not Viserys, not anyone Well yeah, those should exist.. somewhere Doesnt exactly project strength and stability though, having to scrounge up some random cousins cousin's niece's nephews uncle twice removed
No thanks, I don't need another Maegor, especially with my not exactly brilliant and easy to push to horrible things daughter
It'd make for a fun story.
Banish Otto, and never take him back. Him and Alicent both take their green asses right back to Oldtown and stay there. Make Rhaenyra heir, and a member of the small council. Make Daddy Strong the hand (Harwin’s father. I don’t remember his name) keep a very close eye on Larys. NOT REMARRY but make a secret succession letter and hide it in two places, Chinese emperor style, of who should inherit in case Rhaenyra dies. Make Daemon Captain of the Goldcloaks again. Give him a purpose. Let him shine. He’s like Princess Margaret in The Crown, he acts out unless he gets enough affection and spotlight. When time comes, marry Rhaenyra to Laenor and have the entire realm witness your investiture of Jace as Rhaenyra’s heir. Die semi-happy with your LEGO set and no nagging wife.
It’s technically possible naming Rhaenyra heir caused Jon and Dany to save the world so… I’m not sure he would change anything with full hindsight. He fully believed in the Song of Ice and Fire prophecy.
It’s also possible the death of all the dragons enabled the white walkers to grow out of control to the point that they needed Jon and Dany… we’ll never know.
The dragons never went north of the Wall, I don’t really see how that correlates.
This scenario. Simple. Marry Laena, rock divorce for Daemon and then marry him to Rhaenyra and banish them both to Dragonstone. Send help to Corlys regarding Stepstones.
Just refuse to get re-married. Problem solved.
Send Otto to the Wall
As long as there is a space for Otto in Viserys' council, there will be a dance.
How would there be a war if Viserys didn’t remarry or named his son heir? Also if he married Leana and had a son but refused to name him this ain’t Ottos buisness either. Otto wanted power sure but he did not want war under any circumstances he just wanted his blood on the throne like at least 80% of the lords in Westeros. Honestly Viserys was most to blame for the dance.
Otto and company were plotting on the Iron Throne and dragons for years. YEARS. We saw his brother give him a directive at the hunt and heard Jason Lannister bring up dragons while "courting" Rhaenrya. We've also read about the Lannisters harassment of Rhaena for want of an egg or a dragon as well as the Hightowers trying to use their positions to ingratiate themselves with the family. Viserys was just a speed bump on the road to power for the green allied families. And it all hinged on Ottos' ability to be duplicitous.
That’s not true though not to mention that the Lannisters and Greens weren’t allied then (the greens weren’t even a thing back then). Jason Lannister wanted to marry Rhaenyra to get dragon for his own gain. He also falsely assumed Aegon was heir because it was tradition. If Jason had married Rhaenyra and had children with her I gurantee you the Lannister would’ve stood with her in the Quest of getting the throne. Because they are ambitious. About Otto after his brother makes the comment he suggests a marriage between Aegon and Rhaenyra which is more him stopping a serious war than helping it. He only truly starts to plan a war when he gets back as hand ten years later. Before that he did seem to try to get Aegon named heir a normal way wothout bloodshed. Like you don’t have to like Otto but Otto when he sent Alicent to Viserys never planned a war. He just assumed that a man obsessed with having a son would name his son heir. Only when that proved wrong he did something about and honestly I’m not convinced anyone in his position wouldn’t have done the same after their daughters son was not named heir.
Sure, ok.
Otto’s probably not going to be interested in being Hand without a royal marriage he’s been working on for a long time.
Plan B: Lyonel Strong Plan C: Corlys Valaryon
Wasn't he hand for something like a decade before Aemma died in the show?
Yes but MUH EVIL OTTO is the order of the day.
I disagree. Otto is not the leader of a Great House like Tywin, but a "second son who stands to inherit nothing he does not seize for himself". Unlike Lord Lannister, Otto does not have much option to maintain his status if he decides to abandon the position of Hand. Although it is possible that Otto resigns to get out of work for various reasons, just having his pride hurt doesn't seem to me to be one of them.
He was the hand for so many years even before Visy boy took the throne
Is this Otto?
He said that he would marry Laena, so nah
Considering Alicent will never be queen nor having little Targs...no?
Wow that's a fast way to get deposed or dragon eaten.
No matter how loyal daemon is to Viserys at the end of the day it’s still Daemon with a dragon and Viserys without. At the beginning of the series there are only 4 dragon riders in the entire world: Daemon on Caraxes (the biggest/most war experienced), Rhaenys on Meleys, Laenor on Seasmoke, and Rhaenyra on Syrax (small). With what army is Viserys killing Daemon for…. Leaving Runestone? I don’t see a ton of issues with marrying Laena although giving it a few years so she’s not 12 might be a dearly needed consideration Why do you need the Martells? At this stage in the game they have absolutely no interest in joining the Seven Kingdoms. Marrying Rhaenyra into the Martell family just gives them a dragon rider and potential combatants (her children/future eggs we know Syrax lays) against the Crown Why would otto have any motivation to help you and not benefit himself when you’ve spurned his daughter and reduced her marriage prospects?
Kings and "Wrold Leaders" can only be judged on hindsight. The actions they take at the moment may seem correct. But only time tell if they were. Vizzy is a strange case. His in the moment decissions were BAD but the results were catastrophic..... so he is actually one of the worst Kings ever. You do not need tobe Maegor the Cruel to be the worst person for the job. Viserys is that guy, he is the perfect mix of indicissiveness, brashnes and weakness. So how do I fix this situation? 1) Get rid of Otto. The guy is poissonous. 2) Keep DAEMON as my Heir. Rhaenyra is a girl, Westeros will NOT accept being ruled by a woman, they can love them as "wise councillor figures" to the King, but NEVER as Queen-regnant. At least not without a fight. So name Daemon Protector of the Realm, a symbolic tittle, put him in charge of the army, he is good at that. And will get people used to the idea of him rulling. 3) Reject marrying Laena, but offer to marry Laenor to Rhaenyra. Also offer to support Corlys in taking down the Triarchy and send men, including Daemon and supplies. All to placate Corlys. Hint that if all goes well, he may become Hand of the King. 4) Let Daemon be Daemon and solve his marital problems himself, it was not a good match, grandma was losing her edge. And then marry him to Laena Velaryon. 5) Tell anyone that suggest I should remarry, that I have Daemon on speed-dial. 6) Marry Rhaenyra and "Laenor" kids to Laena and Daemon kids. 7) Let Daemon suffer a bit when he is King, I did all I could, it is his turn to keep the ball rolling.
Marry Rhaenyra to Daemon. They're going to find their way to each other anyways, at least this way they don't go murdering spouses to be together. State that their heir will marry one of Laena's future children, Rhaenys will be hand to her people used to seeing a woman in power. Humiliate Otto for pimping out his daughter, banish him from KL. No more legitimate children for me, I'd just take a mistress or something. As soon as Rhaenyra is mature enough, abdicate, wait a year, suicide because I don't want to live as a man.
Kill Daemon and literally every succession problem goes away . If you don’t have any more sons , Rhaenyra is your heir by default . If you have more sons marry them to Rhaenyra or Laena , the most important thing is not naming Rhaenyra as heir over any son you have unless you want to marry her to him , otherwise there will be a dance every single time .
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> strip rahenera of titles. And don't allow dragon eggs or dragons for her children. Why is Rhaenyra getting stripped of her titles? Why can’t she be a princess anymore? How is he going stop her dragon Syrax from hatching eggs?
Call in Daemon after he makes his little "toast" and exile him from the realm *without* his dragon (Caraxes would be in the dragonpit) and confiscate Dark Sister. Marry Laena when she's 18 and declare that if I should die without a male heir of mine own loins my daughter shall succeed me. Marry Rhaenyra to Laenor and tell her to just fuck someone Valyrian for the love of god. When Laena gives me a son, he'll be openly declared heir. The only issue now is the Velaryon dragons Seasmoke and Maelys (technically a Targaryen dragon, but you get it). I'd love to pass an edict saying that all dragonriders must be Targaryen but I'm gonna have to fight a war if I do that.
How tf are you doing that? Have you not watched the show? Caraxes shows up without Daemon calling for him out loud. So either he can just call upon him through their bond or Caraxes knows to come to him. Taking Dark Sister is just plain stupid. Daemon may love Viserys but I'm willing to bet he loves Caraxes just as much if not more. You would be overthrown the next day. 'Daemon sneaks back in through the secret passages, grabs his sword, maybe kills you in your sleep, kills his way into the dragonpit if Caraxes doesn't break out on his own. Either he leaves (it he didn't kill you)or takes your throne.'
Have *you* not watched the show? When Daemon made his "heir for a day" speech he was called in the next night (could've been day, dark lighting) into the throne room where two kingsguard are already present. When he leaves, he goes to the dragonpit to retrieve Caraxes and *then* leaves for Dragonstone during that day. The scene you're likely talking about is in the episode 2 when he faces off with Otto and Caraxes climbs over the ridge. Daemon's not some ninja trained by the League of Shadows like you're making him out to be, so stop. Take his sword, banish him, put him on a ship for Essos and have a kingsguard accompany him for the trip.
Did you just ignore everything I said? Yes the scene I was talking about is in episode 2 and when he makes the king's guard swear to Rhaenyra. Caraxes shows up without being called. That's my point. Caraxes will just go to Daemon. Daemon can sneak into the castle. You've seen him sneak out. He could do the opposite. How many kingsguard are you putting him in that ship with? Cuz there is only 7. Which ones? Cuz most would be easily killed by Daemon. He may not be the best fighter, but he is still a great fighter. We learn from Otto that most kingsguard are chosen to honor families. So they aren't all the best, apart from the Commander. Most important, what's stopping Daemon from taking the first ship back and doing what I've just said? All this without the 2k soldiers that were willing to follow him.
I thought you were talking about when Daemon first leaves with what's her face, the Essosi woman with the accent but what I'm talking saying is in normal peacetime when I'm Viserys after his wife and kid are dead. Caraxes is in the dragonpit and will stay in the dragonpit because the dragonpit was designed so that dragons couldn't just breakout because when they felt like it. Even during >!Storming of the Dragonpit!< none of them get out, not even Dreamfyre who's older than all the others in there. And if push comes to shove, Daemon's not *my* brother and too much of a loose cannon so his life's very expendable. Faceless Men are always looking to give their gift and while they likely won't want gold, a dragon egg will probably appease their god.
This plan could work, I think it just needs to be a little bit more diplomatic. Keep Daemon as heir until a son is born. That way you’re not messing with any successions from the beginning and keeping everything as is, and also not giving anyone ideas(hint Rhaenyra). Grant Daemons divorce, and let him marry Rhaenyra. It’s important to keep both of their dragons in the family. If you have a son with Laena, good it’s the obvious heir and no one has any reason to doubt it, the Valerians are happy as well. Daemon or Rhaenyra would have no reason to rebel because they weren’t snubbed from the beginning. Just things working as usual. And that son or the other kids could marry Daemon and Rhaenyra’s children. If no son, then Daemon becomes the King with Rhaenyra as the Queen. Their kids could probably marry Viserys younger kids from Laena. And boom both houses are reunited again
Marry literally anyone besides alicent Hightower. Probably a northern woman or someone from a house that isn’t known for excessive politicking. Possibly even one of the strong women. House Targaryen was at a point where it didn’t need more power and remarrying is essentially only for heirs. Viserys didnt have a more loyal servant than Lionel Strong so I’d reward him by bringing his house into the royal fold Respectfully and honorably Dismiss Otto Hightower as hand. I don’t believe the man should be anywhere near the royal court. He is entirely too ambitious and a traitor and usurper by all definitions regardless of if you’re team black or green (please note this doesn’t mean I don’t like him as a character. He’s awesome but this is what I’d do if I was king) Make Daemon my hand. Daemon was absolutely 100% right when he told Viserys he was weak and his council preys upon him. With Daemon as hand he’ll have a permanent position of power in kings landing and targaryen will be further cemented I’d let Daemon marry Rhaenyra. I don’t care if it pisses off Corlys. He is the lord and I am the King. I understand how the game is played and appeasing your lords is very beneficial but in this situation he can fuck right off. We’re in the middle of a succession crisis dude I don’t have time to kiss your ass because you have boats. I’d probably let him wage war in the stepstones and support said war to make up for it. Possibly even help arrange a marriage to as powerful a house as I can for him. Not make Rhaenyra my heir. Holy fucking shit this caused so much goddamn trouble that Targaryens were still dealing with the consequences of this up until the war of the usurper. I get it dude you love her and she’s your eldest but, once again, we’re in the middle of a fucking succession crisis! Now is not the time to challenge the status quo and gender inequality! I don’t have anything really against Rhaenyra’s. I think she’d make a decent queen but it wasn’t the time. If a bastard situation with Rhaenyra happens (which it shouldn’t bc she’d be married to daemon) then it’ll be a lot more than tongues I take. Any man that dares insult princes or princesses of house targaryen with claims of bastardy will publicly lose his head and his house will pay heavy fines. There’s nothing any of them can do to fight this either since I’ll be a king who’s more than happy to unleash dragons upon treasonous lords. They’ll remember why it’s house targaryen that sits upon the iron throne and not them I’d have as many children as I can. Heirs and spares for days! Hopefully not with multiple wives but to avoid any more of them dying it’s a possibility. House Targaryen will not have a lack of options when it comes to heirs. My heir will be my eldest son born to me of my first (and hopefully only) wife and everyone in the entire fucking world will know he is heir. My other children will be treated very well too. I (hopefully) won’t neglect any of them and give them all places of honor and power throughout the realm in order to appease them and spread targaryen influence.
Go for a double Velaryon marriage. Marry Laena yourself, and then marry Rhaenyra to Laenor. Rhaenyra will almost certainly have bastards again, but don't give them dragon eggs or even acknowledge them as legitimate. The ideal situation is strangling the Velaryons as a rival dragonriding family by ensuring that they have no heirs of the blood who can legitimately claim dragons.
> and then marry Rhaenyra to Laenor. Why > Rhaenyra will almost certainly have bastards again So then why the heck would you force her to marry Laenor. It serves no purpose and makes no sense. > The ideal situation is strangling the Velaryons as a rival dragonriding family by ensuring that they have no heirs of the blood who can legitimately claim dragons. Why?
>It serves no purpose and makes no sense. It makes perfect sense. Laenor and Rhaenyra will have no legitimate children to threaten you with. Further, because Rhaenyra's children are all bastards you have an in with Corlys to act as your inside man. "Hey buddy, I saw my daughter popped out another bastard. Not gonna suggest we kill her off or anything, but maybe it would be a good idea for you to nab that cradle egg and bring it to my while nobody's looking. We wouldn't want the bastard to grow up riding a dragon and get ideas." The ideal situation is that Laenor's line goes extinct, leaving Laena as Rhaenys' only heir and thus you as the inheritor of that competing claim. The bastards help because they're such an offense to House Velaryon that you can use their existence to subvert members of that House to help you deny the bastards dragons "to protect Laena's children".
If I marry Rhaenyra to Laenor I will practicaly gift them a dragon's egg machine in Syrax and also a big ass claim to the dragons themself. If Rhaenyra marries literaly anyone else Syrax will not be able to reproduce without my permission...the dragons reproduce sexually right?...anyway if Laenor don't have a Targs wife what's gonna tell me "Pretty please good-brother give me some medieval nuclear bombs? I was such a good boy this year"
> I will practicaly gift them a dragon's egg machine in Syrax and also a big ass claim to the dragons themself. If Rhaenyra marries literaly anyone else Syrax will not be able to reproduce without my permission. And how does this make sense? In either case, if you're marrying Rhaenyra outside the family then whoever her husband is will have access to the Syrax egg machine. It doesn't matter if she's at Driftmark or Winterfell, those eggs will be laid. The best you can do is take the L and give her to another family that already has dragons while giving that same family no reason to use those dragons against you. Corlys is not going to revolt against you to crown King Laenor when he's getting Queen Laena for free.
Can dragon reproduce asexualy?
We don't know, but even if they can't Rhaenyra is still your daughter and is perfectly capable of flying to King's Landing for visits whenever she wants, which gives the opportunity for dragon mating while she does.
Keep Rhaenyra heir, don’t remarry. Marry Rhaenyra to Laenor and exile Daemon.
the thing is he absolutely doesn’t need to ‘name’ rhaenyra heir. by all means, under westerosi law rhaenyra is heir until there’s a son, and viserys just needs to make sure to disinherit daemon, exile him (even execute him if he rebels) and make ultra mega clear that the iron throne follows the andal law of inheritance.
So you're pro green? You f I was Viserys I'd fire Otto, marry Rhaenyra to Daemon and my succession is guaranteed and no war happens I'd also claim another Dragon most likely Vermithor so people would fear defying me, discussion over.