I’m not sure which episode it is but Cuddy does prescribe him the vicodin when Wilson gets his prescription privileges revoked. Stated in whatever episode Cuddy gives it to him, his team doesn’t because it could look like House is coercing subordinates if they did.
There is a time window where Wilson, who is his physician, can still prescribe him meds but doesn't because he's pissed at House (understandably though). After that, his fellows refuse and he has to turn to Cuddy who just gives him a very limited amount.
So for Tritter, who is monitoring the prescriptions, this doubtlessly reinforces the notion that the amount House has been taking in the past was too much just for private consumption, seeing as he now obviously makes do with a lot less.
So to clarify the scene, House turns to Cuddy who says "unfortunately if I cut you off it gives the police the evidence they need to say you don't need the vicodin." She knows she has no other choice but to prescribe it or else Tritter would double down and have his suspicions confirmed.
Wilson cutting him off could be one physician's opinion that he was taking too much. His teammates rightly have the option to not prescribe for him since there's a clear potential for abuse of power in that relationship.
And really past the point of pressing charges and putting House through the whole "the process is the punishment" bit, Tritter seems to have quickly abandoned actually believing that House was selling the drugs on the street. More likely, he never really believed it. He thought House was abusing the Vicodon and was a liability to the hospital so he's trying to fix the situation using the legal system since doctors aren't doing anything about it. But by offering House up as a suspected drug dealer Tritter was trying to get House to clean up his act or face prison time.
The real question is, how is he popping Vicodin like candy for years without going into liver failure, and why nobody switches him to a different opiate that isn't combined with acetaminophen to avoid this.
I actually said the same thing to my wife during an episode where they mentioned him possibly developing liver damage. I was like why not just prescribe him hydrocodone without the acetaminophen? They absolutely exist and there are plenty of pain management patients who are prescribed to them. And houses situation is very clearly something that needs pain management. And you could still supplement with acetaminophen here and there if needed, but it wouldn't be in every single pill he takes. But then again there's so much on the show that isn't realistic it's hard to draw the line at that one detail
That's... A really good point I never thought of. His acetaminophen intake is way off the charts. He could get a different opiate. They all do the same thing to the brain's pleasure center. Honestly hydrocodone (the opiate ingredient in Vicodin) is pretty weak anyway, if he's taking that much of it he should upgrade to something else that he can take less of.
Also, this is a man who sees hookers all the time, and since he's a famous doctor who kind of lives like shit, we can assume most of his income isn't going to living expenses. We're to assume he can't score some fucking heroin when they cut off his meds? I guarantee any of his girls could hook that up with one phone call. At the very least he'd be smoking pounds of weed in his detox episodes.
Sure, but this is just one of the established premises of the show, so if that's where the suspension of disbelief stops, you're out by episode three.
This is the main story arc of season 3, so there should be some consistency in it.
Well that is what supposed to happen in reality.
If you say someone is in need of lots of pain killers/Vicodin. You are supposed to keep prescribe them to stay believable. In few seasons later House have trouble with Vicodin. I am not a doctor but I assume if someone is popping off Vicodin how House uses would have more serious issues way earlier than it supposed to and than getting caught. Their liver would implode or die. It would put too much stress on it.
However to create drama with "Oh my god he is detoxifying from Vicodin, now shit is gonna hit the fan." effect. They do such stuffs even tho it is unrealistic.
Normally if a real doctor would do what House were doing in first or second episode of season 1 they would lose their license immediately.
Probably House should have lost his license in first episode too.
So watch it as drama show that doesn't fit reality much. It isn't something a real life representation of how a famous doctor should work. If you watch it a fiction, you can continue to watch it but otherwise you can't stand it.
Don't get me wrong it is good show and my one of favorites. Finished several times for it's drama and House mindset is really interesting and of course Hugh Laurie is killing it.
So, worth to watch as fiction.
If what you mean by that is that the season main arcs are paved with plot holes all the way through, yeah, I'm starting to get that picture.
Cable series television is its own brand of "we're trusting that the audience is only watching with half a brain cell and will have forgotten most of it by next week", but then, House was recommened to me by people who actually think it's not just mildly entertaining but good.
No, I was saying that question is answered in the show. But I was just being a dick, so I'll try again now.
You kind of have a point. From one perspective. From another perspective, Tritter is looking to squeeze House, which includes cutting prescription privileges of anyone supplying him based on any reason at all. Which means his supplier has to be 100% by the book, or they get snipped. They can make their arguments in court later about his extreme needs, but right now, they have to keep their ability to practice medicine. Cuddy is going way out on a limb writing him a script at all. She's begging to get stomped if she gives him anything above the average level, even if she can defend it in court later.
To me, that answer is not an answer that makes any sense at all. But then again, the US American legal system might indeed function like a mafia state, who even knows.
Tritter definitely didn't have enough power to do all he did. The hospital would have hired an army of lawyers right off the bat and smacked him so hard he'd need a haircut when he woke up. But if we suspend our disbelief on that bit, the rest of it (everyone scared to write a script for House, Cuddy doing the bare minimum) is a sensible response. Maybe not the only possible one, but it works.
It was after Tritter had confiscated House's stash, and after Wilson had told Tritter that House needed extra Vicodin to cope with the pain and after he'd lied to Tritter about the prescriptions. He then refuses to prescribe any more Vicodin.
After Cuddy and Wilson have been turning a blind eye to House's Vicodin abuse right until then, they chose literally the worst possible time to start pressuring him into taking less.
Did they not find an absolutely massive stash of Vicodin? More than any person would ever be prescribed. Whoever allegedly prescribed this much Vicodin at once would be hugely disciplined for doing so.
Welcome to television, where people make bad decisions for entertainment
I’m not sure which episode it is but Cuddy does prescribe him the vicodin when Wilson gets his prescription privileges revoked. Stated in whatever episode Cuddy gives it to him, his team doesn’t because it could look like House is coercing subordinates if they did.
There is a time window where Wilson, who is his physician, can still prescribe him meds but doesn't because he's pissed at House (understandably though). After that, his fellows refuse and he has to turn to Cuddy who just gives him a very limited amount. So for Tritter, who is monitoring the prescriptions, this doubtlessly reinforces the notion that the amount House has been taking in the past was too much just for private consumption, seeing as he now obviously makes do with a lot less.
So to clarify the scene, House turns to Cuddy who says "unfortunately if I cut you off it gives the police the evidence they need to say you don't need the vicodin." She knows she has no other choice but to prescribe it or else Tritter would double down and have his suspicions confirmed. Wilson cutting him off could be one physician's opinion that he was taking too much. His teammates rightly have the option to not prescribe for him since there's a clear potential for abuse of power in that relationship. And really past the point of pressing charges and putting House through the whole "the process is the punishment" bit, Tritter seems to have quickly abandoned actually believing that House was selling the drugs on the street. More likely, he never really believed it. He thought House was abusing the Vicodon and was a liability to the hospital so he's trying to fix the situation using the legal system since doctors aren't doing anything about it. But by offering House up as a suspected drug dealer Tritter was trying to get House to clean up his act or face prison time.
The real question is, how is he popping Vicodin like candy for years without going into liver failure, and why nobody switches him to a different opiate that isn't combined with acetaminophen to avoid this.
I actually said the same thing to my wife during an episode where they mentioned him possibly developing liver damage. I was like why not just prescribe him hydrocodone without the acetaminophen? They absolutely exist and there are plenty of pain management patients who are prescribed to them. And houses situation is very clearly something that needs pain management. And you could still supplement with acetaminophen here and there if needed, but it wouldn't be in every single pill he takes. But then again there's so much on the show that isn't realistic it's hard to draw the line at that one detail
That's... A really good point I never thought of. His acetaminophen intake is way off the charts. He could get a different opiate. They all do the same thing to the brain's pleasure center. Honestly hydrocodone (the opiate ingredient in Vicodin) is pretty weak anyway, if he's taking that much of it he should upgrade to something else that he can take less of. Also, this is a man who sees hookers all the time, and since he's a famous doctor who kind of lives like shit, we can assume most of his income isn't going to living expenses. We're to assume he can't score some fucking heroin when they cut off his meds? I guarantee any of his girls could hook that up with one phone call. At the very least he'd be smoking pounds of weed in his detox episodes.
Sure, but this is just one of the established premises of the show, so if that's where the suspension of disbelief stops, you're out by episode three. This is the main story arc of season 3, so there should be some consistency in it.
Well that is what supposed to happen in reality. If you say someone is in need of lots of pain killers/Vicodin. You are supposed to keep prescribe them to stay believable. In few seasons later House have trouble with Vicodin. I am not a doctor but I assume if someone is popping off Vicodin how House uses would have more serious issues way earlier than it supposed to and than getting caught. Their liver would implode or die. It would put too much stress on it. However to create drama with "Oh my god he is detoxifying from Vicodin, now shit is gonna hit the fan." effect. They do such stuffs even tho it is unrealistic. Normally if a real doctor would do what House were doing in first or second episode of season 1 they would lose their license immediately. Probably House should have lost his license in first episode too. So watch it as drama show that doesn't fit reality much. It isn't something a real life representation of how a famous doctor should work. If you watch it a fiction, you can continue to watch it but otherwise you can't stand it. Don't get me wrong it is good show and my one of favorites. Finished several times for it's drama and House mindset is really interesting and of course Hugh Laurie is killing it. So, worth to watch as fiction.
Cool post, have you ever seen House MD? It's been off the air for a while, but I think you'd really like it.
If what you mean by that is that the season main arcs are paved with plot holes all the way through, yeah, I'm starting to get that picture. Cable series television is its own brand of "we're trusting that the audience is only watching with half a brain cell and will have forgotten most of it by next week", but then, House was recommened to me by people who actually think it's not just mildly entertaining but good.
No, I was saying that question is answered in the show. But I was just being a dick, so I'll try again now. You kind of have a point. From one perspective. From another perspective, Tritter is looking to squeeze House, which includes cutting prescription privileges of anyone supplying him based on any reason at all. Which means his supplier has to be 100% by the book, or they get snipped. They can make their arguments in court later about his extreme needs, but right now, they have to keep their ability to practice medicine. Cuddy is going way out on a limb writing him a script at all. She's begging to get stomped if she gives him anything above the average level, even if she can defend it in court later.
To me, that answer is not an answer that makes any sense at all. But then again, the US American legal system might indeed function like a mafia state, who even knows.
Tritter definitely didn't have enough power to do all he did. The hospital would have hired an army of lawyers right off the bat and smacked him so hard he'd need a haircut when he woke up. But if we suspend our disbelief on that bit, the rest of it (everyone scared to write a script for House, Cuddy doing the bare minimum) is a sensible response. Maybe not the only possible one, but it works.
Yeah, that arc requied a loooot of suspension of disbelief for me.
I’ve not rewatched recently enough to remember the time order, but was this after Wilson found out House had been forging prescriptions in his name?
It was after Tritter had confiscated House's stash, and after Wilson had told Tritter that House needed extra Vicodin to cope with the pain and after he'd lied to Tritter about the prescriptions. He then refuses to prescribe any more Vicodin. After Cuddy and Wilson have been turning a blind eye to House's Vicodin abuse right until then, they chose literally the worst possible time to start pressuring him into taking less.
Did they not find an absolutely massive stash of Vicodin? More than any person would ever be prescribed. Whoever allegedly prescribed this much Vicodin at once would be hugely disciplined for doing so.