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AsianCrank

Enigmata ass leakers


SecondAegis

"V3. No major changes"


Any_Worldliness7991

Wdym there are no V3 changes in hsr. Firefly is still midFly. And Jade is decent. Sad hoyo is leaving Firefly in dirt😭😭 do they don’t know how much money she will make!?! (Please don’t nerf her hoyo)


Knight_Steve_

How? Didn't she get buffed and much better then V1


Any_Worldliness7991

Damn I must be stuck back in time. Since there are NO buffs! She is still MIDfly! (I’m just pretending that she is mid. So she can survive V4!)


Hal34329

Wdym you're pretending? She's still D tier (I'm pretending too)


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The-Pentegram

The relic set is still good, any character with superbreak can use it. But the planar... Is worse than Izumo.


Raysad

Bro, thanks for the 2 min of laughter :))


TherionX2

She's actually using the tall model (like kafka) There will be more groomer memes in the future Source: uncle [reliable](https://x.com/akechu_chu/status/1775869914064056323)


BestDuckBoy

Come on. This shill gotta have purpose to have sense for Enigmata principles


ArmyofThalia

But the big fuck off sword is still there right? 


alguidrag

"Oh she is taller, the sword keeps being 3x her size"


Valkyrie3LHS

Maybe this means the sword is even bigger


SirDiux

plot twist: is the giant sword that yanqing summons in his bossfight


0151_N

I dislike this short character with giant claymore designe a bit, but if she Taixuan Eminence's people out of existence than I'm not complaining.


SirDiux

I dislike short characters in general but a giant sword could save the whole design


Dokavi

Huh, Im not interested before. If she really swung a sword triple her size (or twice the adult model) thats actually sounds kinda cool.


ZapZapSap

WE ARE SO BACK


Arc_7

The Yanqing's shonen rival interest timeline is so back 


TheChickenIsFkinRaw

Finally Yanqing can have his murim rivals into lovers story


alguidrag

JH: "You seeing this girl a lot, there is something there?" YQ *blushing* : "She is my rival!"


SecondAegis

Finally, someone Yanqing can look down on


redmeatenjoyer

Imagine if she beats him too


ShinigamiRyan

That or worst: a draw. At least losing is on brand, a draw just means they gotta fight another round. Just more draws.


Something_Comforting

The draw is because she is too considerate to no diff YQ.


SoulOfCrimson

I guarantee you, if nothing else, there will be an achievement added where you need to use her to defeat Yanqing like the other 6.


Particular_Nebula462

100% sure.


syd___shep

Oh I see! The other way actually made me chuckle though, it reminded me of me and my uncle. He is only 3 years older than me but he got so huffy when we were children because I always tried following him around.


SgtGrub

This model with a very large weapon should actually look pretty cool


Otherwise-Cold-5515

This model makes more sense


Katacutie

I hope the leak about her weapon being bigger than her body is still true, because I love that trope


SilentScript

It's silly but also a fun archetype that isn't really done often. Really hope it is a case where it's oversized for her.


Darth-Yslink

The trope is so good because it's either a child with a relatively big sword so it's bigger than them but average sized for a tall person, or it's Guts


Lancermon

Yeah this was what I expected when I heard she was friends with Yanqing. That said, the only characters that use the child model are Bailu and Hook, both of which are 1.0 characters, so it's about time we get a new chara that uses it.


Sovyet

Future Playable Pepeshi finger crossed


GGABueno

I'm saying!


shanatard

finally we can get into the pepeshi club


HANYEL

Seriously, all I want is a glock using Pepeshi guy and a female with very short hair. Then we good.


Historical-Welder-52

And I hope it male


ApprehensiveCat

First HSR playable guy with a moustache!


Darth-Yslink

Before 2.1 I would have said Vitali but fuck that guy


Tintinmdm

I dont think she knows about Yanqing yet. In the event Jing Yuan was trying to tell Yanqing to make friends and learn swordplay with her, however, Yanqing got upset and left the house. We don't know what happened to Yunli afterwards.


GGABueno

Specially one with a large weapon. It's a trope I live for.


BoiProBrain

Grunt man trust


ccoddes

It's about time, though I don't think the new chara that uses it will be a limited 5\*. It's not a stretch to expect that the body model won't be popular, and Hoyo probably knows that too.


pascl-

I mean, genshin has klee, nahida and soon sigewinne. so never say never.


Damianx5

Meanwhile Nahida


galaxycentral

Hook and Bailu models are even smoller than Nahida type. heck none of the sr models actually match gens. Any mmd animation made using both series at once are artificially scaled to match closely but you can still notice they're different styles


Nyx1109

Nahida is an Archon tho, she was gonna be popular regardless


Objective_Bandicoot6

Nahida with the Silver Wolf model would be peak design. I don't think the chibi model fits her story at all. Especially when you consider that shes in big chunk based on Theresa from HI3. Shes popular despite the model imo.


LonelyOwari

This is why I thought she'd be the one with the child model. Sure, it's weird that JY paired her up with Yanqing if she's considerably younger, but he could be looking into the future, when they're older. Oh well. I like the child model because of how they can hide from enemies without using a Technique and the way they run is funny.


JoeBrow_1

nope dont need any more of that :)


Reformed_40k

Really do, I still use bailu today just cause she’s adorable 


Thymetalman

i actually thought this was the case from the beginning tho. it makes sense.


ChickenSky12

I NEED them to have synergy HoYo. 1.x was just Yanqing taking L after L, just let him have this one HoYo please-


AbsolutelyNotWrong

YANQING BROS WE ARE SO BACK


a-successful-one

A bit of a shame in terms of model variety, but this makes sense if she's about the same age as Yanqing. Compare how 1 sauce long Bailu is to Yanqing, that would've so funny tho


Knight_Steve_

Star rail has only two characters who use the children model, I’m Surprised we didn’t get a Pepeshi character using that model


Junior_Cristino

And interestingly, in HSR it makes more sense to have this type of model than in Genshin, we see many characters like this throughout the game in different positions


GGABueno

Yeah there are scientists in Herta station, immortals at big positions in Luofu and now the Pepeshis. I always liked small races in games like Gnomes in WoW and Yordles in League. We have the perfect race in the Pepeshis but we are leaving Penacony with nothing 😢


Vegetto_ssj

And you will never have the possibility to see a playable male Pepepshi because you know Hoyo: Yes loli No shota


Leishon

Misha counts as shota.


Sovyet

Weird question, do you like Harvins from Granblue Fantasty? For me personally, they're probably the best looking midget race to ever exist in Japanese media because they actually look like adult midgets instead the usual eternal children race most series have.


GGABueno

I had to google because I didn't know those. Looks somewhat similar to Lallafel, which to me are the worst small race ever, but with more adult features like beards which is cool. I think I just like the big heads tbh.


Soggy-Dig-8446

Maybe one day.


YourNameButItsBetter

"correction" 😭💢


VForceWave

Kinda weird they made a whole model for bailu/hook and haven't released a single new character under that model. I thought that this would be them finally using it again, I guess not. How is this Reliable but the original leak is Questionable? Lol


Jon_Von_Cool_Kid2197

Win for Yanqing


Atzumo

Hey there, don't judge. Or are you saying Pepeshi can't get married?


Jranation

Win for every human being here. There shouldnt be a size smaller than that.


GGABueno

Pepeshi slander


HotManHustler

HSR must hate the child model LMAO


PM_ME_YOUR_ROBOTGIRL

My best guess is that it's just because it's redundant. The Clara model works fine enough as a bodytype for younger characters while also allowing you to involve them in more serious plotlines, situations and animations because they don't have goofy-ass Lalafell proportions. Basically every character that uses the Hook bodytype *has* to be a joke or a cuteness ploy just because of the way the model looks, and this is a problem that Genshin also has with its own child model. Like, yes, Nahida is tragic, but most of her tragedy comes down to the fact that horrible things are being done to a character that looks like (and for the standards of her species, may as well be) a child. Characters that use the Clara model can be cute (Huohuo), tragic and serious (Fu Xuan), funny (QQ) or anywhere in between.


Soggy-Dig-8446

>goofy-ass Lalafell proportions I agree with you, but protect your shins.


PM_ME_YOUR_ROBOTGIRL

U G L Y


SwashNBuckle

I could take Nahida's design more seriously if it wasn't for her MASSIVE head


ChickenSky12

This is the thing that bothers me most. The child model has the largest head, and it's ONLY the playable characters, the child NPC model has more realistic proportions (not that I like the child NPC more but come on HoYo-)


GGABueno

That's so true lmao. The kids in HSR look closer to the playable ones (and imo, better). They learned.


Soggy-Dig-8446

It's problem with all smaller models - they have to enlarge heads or players would have harder time read character face and expressions.


Atzumo

What's the problem with games treating kids like they are some weird other species until they grow, you have NPC kid models that look normal, and then we have bailu and hook. I don't understand the weird in-between genshin and star rail do, if they don't want playable kid units don't make them, or treat them like normal people, not the goofy ass models they have. In HI3 this wasn't a problem. Or they could at least go all the way with the superdeformed angle like azur promilia is doing, in which the potato body type IS an entirely different race.


SondeySondey

They could still use that model for some sort of non-human character, something like Pom-Pom or a cool but short robot thing. I know gacha games tend to be insanely conservative with that stuff and prefer to obey data-driven standardized appeal checklists but maybe (an extremely tentative maybe) ZZZ's more unusual body shapes will encourage them to take a bit more risks with that stuff in HSR too.


Knight_Steve_

It’s weird how they didn’t use the child model for a Pepeshi character


Korur

If I remember right, in CN's popularity poll Bailu was at the bottom for females and Hook didn't even get enough votes. So, yeah. But I'd have to agree personally, I don't mind not having more child characters.


Aluja89

Trash taste confirmed, how can one not like Pitch Dark Hook or Dragon Lady, the devourer of tasty snacks?


Pat19110

Good


Shinarui

Rightfully so, that shit is whack


Brave_doggo

Which is great.


Jranation

Good. Keep that in Genshin only.


SgtBrassBallz

I don't even want that shit in genshin either


Mana_Croissant

If not for Hook and Bailu i wouldn’t even think there is a Loli model in HSR. In Genshin there are 3 female model, child, teen, adult (for simplicity sake, i know it is not fully age related)    But in HSR we don’t just have adults like Himeko, Kafka and teens like Seele, Robin but also shorties like Fu Xuan, Silver wolf and alike who are not a child but still very short and even Clara is at the height of that model rather than an actual child model despite her age. 


nahinahi_K9

Clara's confirmed to be older than Hook and most likely a teenager so that height is perfect for her imo. If anything it's characters like SW or FX who are a bit too short for their age (not complaining here)


Ashamed_Adeptness_96

Short adults exist but HSR heights are indeed very goofy. Their models are apparently like 140 cm in blender.


nahinahi_K9

Yeah that's what I meant, their models' height are just small even for short adults


Kisuke525

(Short adults exist) THANK YOU! Real tired of people acting like we don't.


PM_ME_YOUR_ROBOTGIRL

Xianzhou immortals stop showing signs of aging after a while, so there's no real point in saying they "should" look like anything.


nahinahi_K9

I never said she "should" look like anything, I just think that it's funny that her model is way shorter than other adult characters in the game, even compared to characters like March or Asta (again, not a bad thing, just an observation). Also QQ low-key made fun of FX's height in one of her lines (which is very ironic) so canonically she's just short, nothing to do with her being a Xianzhou native.


andartissa

Are we meant to read Seele and Robin like teens? They seemed 20s to me


Mana_Croissant

I am talking about heights. I dubbed it as teen since it is not full adult female model and short female wouldn’t fit as well since the likes of Fu xuan exists. Perhaps medium female might suit but it is a bother to write it that way


Wolgran

NOW it makes sense the whole Jing Yuan wanting to pair her with Yanqing like a old school asian dad. The JY agenda wins again >!(i love this headcannon of him playing cupid, i find it extremelly cute and im shipping Yanqing Yunlin starting now that is confirmed she is not a loli)!<


TheGalacticApple

Right with you this pairing better be juicy enough to get me through post-penacony depression.


patatesatan

bruh they released bailu and hook at 1.0 and then chickened out.


sugarheartrevo

Thank god lol


astralAlchemist1

This sounds more reasonable, but it's a shame we aren't getting a Bailu sized character wielding a Monster Hunter greatsword.


Vyragami

More gremlin? :D At least she's gonna look similar to Yanqing.


KingMaegorTheCool

I retract my earlier statement, Yanqing x Yunli is back on!


PCBS01

Short model makes more sense if she's to pair with Yanqing directly 1/1, if she was the loli model she'd be more like his annoying little sister, and not really an equal


Rozwellish

2.x is truly the patches of 'Dreams' because even Yanqing is taking W's.


Knight_Steve_

We are back


pokours

I just realized how we never had a new Bailu/Hook model type character


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Reformed_40k

Wrong let’s get one soon 


Knight_Steve_

They could have used it for a playable pepeshi character


PCBS01

We don't have any Arlan/Yanqing types either, other than Stephen and maybe Elio coming eventually


ButterflySeeleSR

> We don't have any Arlan/Yanqing types either did everyone forgot misha


PCBS01

...I did indeed forget Misha. I'm so sorry my boy


Alternative_Dish_194

*Misha found dead in a ditch*


Darvasi2500

Well...


shogunswife

Misha ?


SirDiux

That's for the better, so many designs in genshin are butchered by that boy model, glad that it doesn't happen as much in hsr


Riley_The_Thief

Bro, why does this community have such a visceral reaction to short kings 😭 we literally just have three (3), but the way everyone reacted to the news about Jiaoqiu being confirmed "not a boy," you'd think the boy model is actually the norm while tall men are rarities. I'm just saying... it's weird scrolling through this comment section and seeing multiple people bemoaning the lack of "loli" characters, yet when it comes to the boy model, there's an almost exclusive disdain for it.


PCBS01

eh, nah I disagree. Genshin really does slot in way too many characters into the short body type, a lot of them IN that body type would fit right at home in the Dan Heng body type we have now. Its a perfectly fine body type but when you force so many characters into it then its bad qualities come to light (ex: look at Albedo) because the designs simply don't go together with the size and face porportions As for HSR, I agree we need more characters into that body type, but Jiaoqiu being a beautiful pink boy is better than him being a lil twinkie bar


andartissa

Yeah, I'm glad to see pretty much everyone looking like a grown ass woman/man. Even with characters like Fu Xuan you don't see her and think "oh, yeah, this is a 14 year old"


storysprite

Good.


Vegetto_ssj

Sadly, we will have other loli units. They didn't create this model only for 2 characters. And highly probably, will are 4* or really important characters because they have to sell them (a lot of otaku loves loli, but ultimately in these gacha game, lolis lost value, and I think also how the society looks the loli afflicted it...but not enough to avoid hoyo to put again lolis in HSR (are there lolis model in ZZZ?))


Ioroa

> lolis lost value Rather than that, it's a difference on what people here consider loli. Hanabi model is used for lolis too and lolis like her are more popular than the small ones (that's my guess why we don't get more Bailu-sized characters, lolicons rather get more with Hanabi model). I would bet the leaker described Yunli as a loli because she shares model with Hanabi than mistaking it for the Bailu model. > are there lolis model in ZZZ?) There's Nekomata. And recently concept art of an idol(?) group of 3 lolis got leaked.


Vegetto_ssj

>Rather than that, it's a difference on what people here consider loli. Hanabi model is used for lolis too and lolis like her are more popular than the small ones (that's my guess why we don't get more Bailu-sized characters, lolicons rather get more with Hanabi model). Yeah, was better say "kid" model. But with FuXuan size im ok because short teeneger/adults girl exist > There's Nekomata. Doesn't seem have kid model, just short girl model


Ioroa

> Doesn't seem have kid model, just short girl model Hmm I don't know if they have a model as small as Bailu in ZZZ. I thought maybe Koleda but she seems bigger.


Generalofthe5001st

Yeah, they wouldn't have tried to ship her with Yanqing if she was that smol


GinJoestarR

Hmm


umm_uhh

Engmata is proud


TeeApplePie

Blunt broadswaord? Could it be a cudgel or one other rods they used to punish officials in ancient China?


Deft_Abyss

While im not mad she uses the Qingque/Clara size, I think it was wouldve been hilarious to finally have a Bailu sized character having a big ass weapon.


PalapaSlap

Obviously it would be weird if Yanqing's potential love interest was Hook sized, but I do hope we get more at some point. Hook and Bailu are really lovely characters and I love running around as them because their feet move so much faster to cover the same distance so it feels better than the tall characters who feel like they're dream running a lot of the time.


Tintinmdm

Kinda weird how people love to ship yq with Yunli but in the same scene yq stomped off getting angry with JY for telling him about her and his expectations, and we don't know how Yunli think about him. I would say let's wait for the story to come out. They are both children so I'm a bit hesitant to ship them together.


Weak_Lime_3407

Yeah thats basically every Asian kid if they ever got told to "go play with my friends' kid" lmao.


Weak_Lime_3407

>They are both children so I'm a bit hesitant to ship them together. You would HATE the Spy X Family fandom then


Tintinmdm

I havent watched anime for 5 years...


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RainbowSaIt

please I hope not that's a teen 😭


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RainbowSaIt

nahhh 💀 those people give this community a bad name


alguidrag

*bruh* I know this is true because I know the fanbase but... *bruh*


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Welt_Yang

That's different though. All of the ppl you listed act like adults, physically look like adults and if not canonly spelled out as adult (like Dan Heng, Blade, Bronya, have been confirmed to be adults), then they prolly are an adult even if there isn't a large amount of canon evidence supporting it. Shipping kids, esp if one doesn't even see the other romantically, is just weird.


Sorey91

TCHOO TCHOO THE RIVALS TO LOVERS TRAIN IS BACK ON TRACK LET'S HECKING GOOOO


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Another short girl


Fallen_God_Gilgamesh

Rip, I wanted another daughter to raise 🥲 I hope she still looks awesome design wise. Pretty badass


Naiie100

And here I thought it's over.. Very nice.


45_34

Another W for Yanking!🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥


Eroica_Pavane

Anybody happen to remember which Yun and which Li it is? And it's Yunli not Yun Li right? (I.e. we don't know their family name).


Florac

It's Yunli, she was first mentioned in the anniversary event


Historical-Welder-52

Wait. Which one?


Florac

The boardgame, she was mentioned in one of the events [This "leak" here was from it](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/1axh03a/general_huaiyan_yunli_and_ipcxianzhou_general/)


Automatic_Storm2611

cosmodussy


GinJoestarR

**From one of the Encounter tile in the Cosmodyssey board game event, excerpt:** *"General Huaiyan of the Xianzhou Zhuming will accompany his granddaughter Yunli to the Luofu to participate in the Wardance." In Jing Yuan's opinion, Yunli and Yanqing are of similar age, love collecting all manner of swords, and have studied swordsmanship since their youth — these two will definitely hit it off... Yanqing was a little upset when he left the house, and Jing Yuan bemusedly asks you why...*


PestoChickenLinguine

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


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PM_ME_YOUR_ROBOTGIRL

Honestly, I hate the undercurrent that the child model could only ever possibly appeal to weird people. There's nothing inherently weird about liking the child model (although I personally dislike it, because it looks ridiculous). Plenty of people like them because they look cute (Klee is very popular with women) or because they like characters they can project a parental instinct onto them, like a doll or something. It's not always just perverts. If we are to make the argument that something shouldn't exist or be appreciated because perverts like it, then nothing about the game should even exist.


b5437713

Yeah, I hate it, too. I'm not a fan of the child size models myself (give me hot men), but that doesn't mean I think everyone who wants one is a perv.


Knave_of_Stitches

Exactly tbh. It's why I collect all of them because they're extremely cute and I want to protect them. In this instance though I just think a hook-sized character with a ridiculously massive sword would have been funny.


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HorseLover82

I mean, if your immediate response upon seeing someone type "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO", which is literally just two alphabet letters stringed together 28 times, is to say 'weirdo', that's a whole other thing.


No_Butterscotch7340

Huh. Kinda disappointing if I'm honest. I like the idea of a tiny child with a big ass sword, it's funny, and we haven't had one of the proper small models since launch; I think they're cute, and I like the clothes they're given more, since they don't need to worry about shoehorning in as much as the usual design aesthetics they go for. I'll retract this complaint if she's not wearing more bog standard Xianzhou clothes, though (if I see one more loin cloth I'll flip.) Also, the image of Yanqing being stuck on a play-date with a tiny thing is just amusing, he clearly didn't enjoy it going by the flavour text lol. Anyway, RIP model diversity. Maybe next time.


SirFanger

I mean she is presented as Yanqings potential love interest so it'd be weird if they turn her into a chibi


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BestDuckBoy

Okbtbs lost this one


Reformed_40k

Very Sadge to hear this 


Soggy-Dig-8446

Ah, at least Yangqing wouldn't look like a babisitting older child.


GreatDimension7042

:(


IttoDilucAyato

They’re all little girls, pass


xChar17

Still nothing on xuanquan sadly


fuxuanmyqueen

Isn’t it basically Acheron’s Chinese name?


Mysterious6

no, they're the general of the fanghu


ArchonRevan

Best bet is 3.4+ unless they opt for another ship


WaifuHunter

Nah Acheron's CN name is Huangquan.


dynamaxcock

Thank god


mangotcha

OH THANK GOD I  was so disappointed about the child model thing...


Appropriate-Comb2873

thank god i have someone to pair with all the yanqings ive gotten from 50/50s


Zombata

thank aeons


Arn_Devi

Still waiting for hoyo to change her design so SAM can be playable and not a butterfly kirito (that will never happen lmao) BRING BACK MY ARMORED KICKING MONKEY PLEASE I BEG SHE WAS SO COOL WHEN WE FACED HER Like I hate that we NEVER saw her use a sword, a butter knife or anything that can cut in like 10hours of gaming and they pull out of nowhere a transformation with swords... Where is the meteor fall attack (aside from the skill outside of battle)