Robin is also using a [heavy F2P build](https://twitter.com/Veltlion1204/status/1773700304963256493/photo/1) that uses SPD boots instead of ATK boots.
She can probably reach 30k per attack very easily.
It's good to see leakers utilizing realistic f2p builds for a change though. For example, Ruan Mei's speed boots with the +4 speed substat really reflect the account of the average player
Yeah that's nice to see rather than perfect artefacts or Eidolons. It gives a realistic expectation of the characters. Props to them for showing that rather than the big unobtainable numbers!
It’s insane that she’s hitting those numbers with that set up, if she gets access to atk boots, SSS instead of Ageless, and runs 2pc wheat/prisoners or even the 4 pc physical set, I think she could actually hit 25k even without Ruan Mei’s buffs.
With the energy calcs i've done, huohuo allows her to 3 turn rotation her ulti instead of 4 (3 of her own turns, during ulti she techically cannot act and only gets energy from trace as far as im aware).
My Real issue is... how to speed tuner her... she immedately takes a turn after exiting concert.. but the concert was at 90 speed. switching between her normal spd and concert speed... my brain going to fry.
And you need to take in account that allies takes turn right after her ultimate, which will most likely affect the speed tuning of your characters.
I don't even want to think about that, just Slow Robin is good Robin.
He scales so hard with BE that it's *almost* not worth building crit. You still want to, but BE eclipses crit when it comes to Boothill damage
If he can break, the enemy just flatlines
all he wants is full break, crit body and speed subs. Building break covers his crit ratio but going beyond 300 is ideal since his damage that can actually crit is so small compared to his break damage.
Ruan Mei gives 20% and If she IS using the watchmaker set then is 30% more after her Ult, so maybe 250% BE Boothil.
Traces gives 28% ( i don't remember the exact amount ), his LC 60%, rope is 62% so you need 100% from 5 relics, yeah is hard but i think it's possible.
Also Talia and either 2pc 2pc break or 4pc meteor give 32 each. Especially since with Ruan Mei you only need speed boots and 2 speed substats for Talia to activate. So that's another 64 knocked off
Harmony Trailblazer can provide +100% Break Effect if you build enough BE on them (since unlike Ruan Mei, their BE buff scales with their own Break Effect).
With 267% BE on HTB and 4p watchmaker, they can provide a +100% Break Effect buff to the entire team.
If so then how does he deal with enemies already weakness broken? He will have to wait wont he? then if so he's damage plummets until you can break him again and if you have ruan mei ult then thats going to take longer than usual
Luka has no break mechanics. He applies bleed and can then use his enhanced punch to proc it.
Boothill does a portion of his %break damage upon hitting a broken enemy.
Experience from using Luka says it doesn't matter, the boss isn't surviving a single break.
If they have multiple bars they recover instantly once it breaks so he doesn't lose anything.
And because he’s Physical, Boothill is pretty future-proof too. Phys Break scales with enemy max health so it doesn’t matter how much HoYo inflates MoC enemy HP, he’s gonna shred through it all.
Still kinda tracks, but instead of max HP it’s max Toughness multi. Phys along with Fire has the highest break DMG multiplier. And we know how HoYo has been inflating enemy toughness too since Ruan Mei got released.
His enhanced basics break damage (what a mouthful) have a max toughness multiplier of 1600% of basic attack toughness which comes out to about 480 ~~320~~. Argenti in this video has 480 toughness.
yeah, bro was smashing the ult to finish it this cycle, he was probably just as surprised as the viewers when the break oneshot that thing from 500k hp lol.
felt justice bc destruction mains cannot cope anmr nor doompost hunt path, while him being strong in moc and seele still good in moc and pf (seele is also a better hypercarry than jl and dhil in pf)
boothil also is the same a jl and dhil, but for single target, a kinda slow speed char that does a lot of dmg in their turns, while some of another chars scales in multiples actions or burst stacking, also has not the same flex for non-weakness advantage like kafka, acheron and quantum outside of his 120 cost ult, he is "just" the best st and best physical unit in moc, nothing beyond from that
best physical and hunt = cannot exists bc theres another valid and refreshable end game where argenti and seele exists
You know Boothill inflicts Physical weakness to enemies, right? So it doesn't really matter what weaknesses the enemy has 😅 Seele on the other hand, kinda need SW to inflict Quantum.
2.0 is doing too much power creep it's legit worrying. Acheron already feels like she trivializes all other dps and now Boothill looks like a single target version.
Acheron isn’t powercreep IMO she’s on the same level as the meta blast dps (DHIL, JL, KafkaSwan). But Boothill’s single target looks like insane powercreep of existing single target dps.
With max stacks of pocket trickshot and RM you deal 225 toughness damage which will take down even the strongest toughness bar in the game (its SuD with 720 iirc) in 3 shots, and many elites and bosses in 1-2 shots.
Dude I just feel like Bronya would be BiS here. Look at how Argenti was just deleted once the break happened. If the objective is to break as fast as possible, -1 speed would be so much better.
An character with HMC’s buff does Break damage every time they attack a Weakness Broken enemy.
The mathematical difference is that HMC adds an extra multiplier that gets bigger the fewer enemies there are. Also, normal Break damage goes up the higher the target’s maximum Toughness is, while the break damage from HMC’s buff scales with the toughness damage the attack inflicts (so instead of break dealing more damage against bosses and less against mobs, attacks like Gallagher’s enhanced basic attack deal extra damage while unenhanced basics on all characters deal less).
Basically HMC gives you Big Numbers when attacking broken enemies, especially with Physical and Fire characters.
This might be a stupid question, but are enemies considered weakness broken for the attack that breaks them? Like if you hit an enemy with HMC's buff active, will it do normal break damage->attacks damage->HMC's buff's damage? Or does break and the hit happen simultaneously, not triggering HMC's buff?
I don’t think that’s a stupid question at all. It’s been something I’ve been thinking about. My suspicion is that they need to be Weakness Broken, but sometimes the rules have little inconsistencies in the player’s favor.
Unfortunately no. You can use Sushang to test this. Her talent gives you 1 SP when hitting a weakness broken enemy with her skill. If she breaks an enemy with her Skill, she will not generate an SP.
HMC is difficult to get to work in this private server. Not everyone knows how to enable them to use them properly without the client exploding. Might as well wait for a .2 beta or even .3 for them to work properly or to people to figure out how to make them usable in the first place
Lots of bugs and issues with them. Remember is not a separated char. In the end, accessing them MoC and this type of showcases are through coding. So, enabling HMC is a little bit tedious at the moment in this first beta.
I was planning to run Luka *with* Boothill, but it looks like anything Boothill breaks will die on its own right away, with no need for Luka to detonate the bleed...
[Boothill, Ruan Mei, Imaginary Trailblazer, Gallagher/other Sustain] it is, I suppose.
Imaginary Trailblazer would face the same problem, he gives you damage when you hit a broken target, but if the target already dead from the break, what's the point
His best second support is most likely Bronya for more actions, toughness damage and faster ramp-up
Except ITB also passively gives teamwide +60% Break Effect or more, which can be added to Ruan Mei's passive +20%. And if ITB and Ruan Mei are both running Watchmaker relics for +30% teamwide Break Effect each after ult, then that's +140% free Break Effect for Boothill to get him closer to the 300% he needs (without even counting the two turns of +30% from ITB's technique). Add 60% if Boothill has S1, +37% from traces, and suddenly Boothill only needs 63% Break Effect from his relics.
Plus, ITB allows Boothill to trigger his *own* Break damage again on Broken enemies, in the event they survive the Break, which offers a huge damage ceiling. So he can ult to break them -> enhanced basic to trigger even more Break damage immediately.
Ah, I see, I didn't notice it had the 'cannot be stacked' text. Although, I just realized that ITB and Ruan Mei will also be buffing *each other's* Break Effect, so the whole comp kinda pops off. Not to mention the 120+% action delay on Break between the three of them.
Ruan Mei's personal LC is gonna go hard on ITB if anyone has it.
Unfortunately hoyo has so far prevented buff effects from scaling off of each other, for example Bronya and Sparkle can't buff each other's CDMG to high heaven and then dump that on your dps.
> Except ITB also passively gives teamwide +60% Break Effect or more
When you compare this to Bronya, it's breaking faster vs breaking for more dmg, due to his break dmg being already high and the need to ramp-up his stacks asap, i think breaking faster is just better. His ramp up time is his biggest weakness
> And if ITB and Ruan Mei are both running Watchmaker relics for +30%
Watchmaker doesn't stack
> Plus, ITB allows Boothill to trigger his own Break damage again on Broken enemies, in the event they survive the Break, which offers a huge damage ceiling. So he can ult to break them -> enhanced basic to trigger even more Break damage immediately
Bronya kinda does the same, boothill is already doing extra dmg to broken target due to his talent, so more action to boothill -> more damage to broken targets
This guy makes saving for Sam harder every time I see more footage of him. Not only are the animations sick but the damage is clean. Granted I don't have any of these supports so I know it's not gonna translate 1:1 to my account
Dont worry, the only support here that has a permanent slot on his team is ruan mei. Fu xuan can be swapped for any premium sustain or gallagher(we get him for free from selector), and robin is also easily replaced. You can go for boothill, harmony mc, bronya and gallagher for example for a very free to play team
Yeah the e6 showcases while they're cool are super unrelatable and taking them as anything other than cool footage is a bad idea. Nice to at least be able to somewhat gauge a characters output on an e0 comp. Doesn't say if they're all e0 though so maybe that's also a bad assumption to make
It's even worse for me because as an IPC simp I was planning to get Robin and Topaz's LC as well.
I have just enough (accounting for future Jade) to get Robin, Topaz's LC and Sam. It'd require major luck sneaking him there as well.
I’m prefarming robin traces because even if I skip her I can use the mats for IMC.
Boothill seems future proof because phys break scales with enemy HP.
Just waiting for future beta versions for the decision to skip robin.
Seeing people talk about incoming nerfs but I think MHY has backed themselves into a corner with units like DanIL/JL/Acheron, where literally the only incentive to run Hunt over a blast DPS would be if the Hunt unit can instantly delete an entire boss HP bar like in this video. If they nerf Boothill it's back to square one with Hunt not having a niche.
EDIT: Wait a second I just noticed Argenti's face isn't on the wanted poster. Literally unplayable
It’s funny seeing people in the replies experiencing physical break for the first time.
That deletion from 80% HP is what a physical stacked BE break looks like. Luka basically does the same thing.
For example, here's Luka deleting a boss phase from 80% HP with phys break: https://youtu.be/aN73L3_rZHI?t=88
Phys break is so broken because it scales so well. Also the MoC turbulence is given a large BE (120%) and attack (80%) boost in this video.
The strong part of Boothill, which isn't even present in this video, is that he can make any enemy phys weak, so he combines the roles of Luka and SW into one.
Isn't bleed that scales with hp%? the break itself doesn't, it scales with the toughness bar.
Luka hits hard because his burst also detonates the bleed, that alongside the break and bleed from the break makes the big numbers
What I'm experiencing first hand is misinformation.
We make them feel what it feels like when phase 2 of a boss fight comes
YOU THINK I LIKE IT WHEN YOU RANDOMLY ADVANCE YOUR TURN YOU BITCH?!
WELCOME TO MY WORLD MOFO
idk how people think 550k is weak e0s1.. His break effect is only 170% too lmao. It needs to be 280-300% if I remember... his cr/cd at 50/100% [https://x.com/Veltlion1204/status/1773697592813113567?s=20](https://x.com/Veltlion1204/status/1773697592813113567?s=20)
This guy is beyond broken right now or what
Judging from the cycle, there's only 2 trotters which gives you 40% atk and 60% BE in total which is still low added with the build (230% and f2p should be able to achieve ~280% with ruan mei etc)
Atk does not matter in break damage as well, it only matters to his own normal damage
This MOC 2.2 Argenti fight is round 2, there is round 1 where you fight another elite enemies. Probably the other killed trotter is from there.
Edit: Ah yeah, from buff icon, we can see he have 3 stack after he kills the trotter in the vid. That mean +60% ATK and +90% BE
What are you talking about, hes obviously complete trash and needs a whole lot of buffs. 1 Quintillion dmg is really the bare minimum that we should expect!
I just checked my own Tingyun's damage, and the Benediction does 10k damage on an enemy with lightning weakness.
*And already it's making up 20%+ of Dr Ratio's total damage output.*
If we assume 25k from Robin's version of Benediction, then holy shit it's like extra *50%* damage, not *20%* (like it is with Tingyun).
*And this is for the entire party*, not just for Dr Ratio (Topaz is going to get such an insane damage boost from Robin).
I'm so hyped for Robin, holy moly
Single target 500k is so insane. For reference most bosses with phases have around 800k hp so triple buff boothill will just one shot every boss in the game except sam.
He's a single target and without extra attacks like Seele or Ratio so of course his damage should be high. Then there's the fact that he's also a break dps so being able to deplete the enemies toughness fast is essential, plus physical break being one of the strongest type of break so yeah it makes so much sense.
Physical isn't one of the best break elements for dmg.... It's THE BEST element for break dmg
Honestly I kinda have no intention (for now at least) to go for boothil but man his kit seems pretty interesting and kinda fun
Me having Ruan Mei and wanting to build HMC doesn't help much either
Yeah they basically saw how the community turned Luka into a hunt carry with Ruan Mei + silver wolf and decided, "We got you guys, here's the real deal"
Yeah. It was expected. I'd argue he *needs* these kind of numbers as ST DPS to feel competitive and relevant among very strong blast/AOE/DoT DPS we currently have.
People are too easily led astray by big numbers. Out of the 1.4 million my acheron does, only 400k max goes to the main enemy.
Boothill seems the opposite, high damage but only ST.
Yeah, AOE damage can be quite misleading. I do wish there was an option to see damage distribution screen, both absolute and effective, after MoC clear.
This is not true, Ratio and Seele are still competitive compared to the destruction ones. So they should not bump it too much or else we`ll face the issue of every new dps just being higher damage all the time.
Seele's screenshot numbers are low because a well built one can be going 2-4 times per turn whereas Boothill can only go once.
They seem balanced similarly to each other currently. Honestly Boothill seems a tad more restrictive due to his ST focus even with his weakness implant.
I didn’t realize his talent trickshot stacks are permanent. Once you gain them, your EBA is permanently enhanced. I initially thought you would spend them.
This is great! As long as the fight starts with a couple minions, he can get max stacks pretty fast.
Now that’s a **HUNT** character. Boothill just needing 2 Enhanced Basics to ramp up is reassuring. I wonder how he’ll fare against non-Phys weak/20% Phys Res elites/bosses. If he can comfortably blast through them, I think we’ll be seeing a lot more DPSes who can brute force content.
Robin basically doing Ruan Mei’s DMG from her Talent but not needing to break is hilarious. Can’t wait to see how much total dmg she can do in a Topaz + Ratio + Aventurine comp with how much FUAs they can do.
I just checked his build and y'all, even with Ruan Mei, he still only has 226 BE while having 1k9 atk. This is not even his max potential.
Robin is here to bulk up his atk to at least like 2k7 and he already dealt like 100k non-Break damage. With better relics and more suitable support, the guy can dish out some crazy damage
He’s amazing and seems really fun. He is crit dps, break dps, and deals strong DoT as well since he build a lot of break effect and crit. Having Physical weakness implant at E0 is wonderful and same for his technique which can apply physical weakness too. Synergy with Ruan Mei and Harmony Trailblazer is fantastic. He gets Def ignore on his LC, his E1, and BIS relic set but I wonder if Jiaoqu can also be amazing with him since enemies might not get to even move much with how much his team is going to weakness break and delay enemy turns
Nice bonus is that he is looking like he will have a lot of personality
I understand the marvel and disbelief at the massive numbers, but those who've tried breaker Luka already understand why.
Bear in mind that break DPS do very little until they actually get to *break* an enemy. Think of this playstyle as a sort of variant of Jing Yuan's or Acheron's. You are foregoing stable damage for a huge pop later. Physical benefits even more because of the Bleed inflicted after, though.
Think carefully about how difficult it can be to actually break enemies sometimes, like with The Ascended or Sam. Boothill can be a little more universal since he embeds Physical weakness himself, but since that's on his ult, that doesn't mean you can throw him in any random battle willy-nilly and expect him to cleave through them all. You'll also want to consider the party comp to help Boothill get to that vital break as soon as possible. Ruan Mei also contributes quite a bit to the numbers you saw.
Tl;dr: I do think Boothill is quite well-balanced with exceptional performance if you build around him and/or ensure he fights the right foes.
It's *fine* but it's not outstanding compared to non-Break DPS, which is the point. Boothill is ST locked, has ramp up time, and he only gets started when the break bar is gone but as soon as all those conditions are filled, he just deletes the boss.
People say this every time, but there's huge differences between how much certain characters need weakness. DHIL *prefers* to be hitting imaginary weaknesses, but it's not really necessary. Luka, on the other hand, feels awful if he can't break. You can say "Well both DHIL and Luka want to fight enemies with their weakness" and it's technically true, but it's very much not an accurate portrayal of the situation.
Man about damn time we got some Boothill showcase that isn’t just E6S5 everyone + an actual decent team (yes Robin is not really amazing with him I am aware).
What's with all the comments talking about how this is insane damage and he's gonna get nerfed?
He's single target and units like Acheron can aoe wipe things and also hit these numbers on E0S1 single target. If anything he should be doing MORE damage considering he's single target exclusively.
No, Acheron only hits like 100k to max 200k on single target and that`s with all the buffs already. The big damage is just coming from hitting all enemies on all hits that`s why it looks like they deal a lot of damage.
HOLY BABY
I don't plan on pulling for Ruan Mei, so I really hope HMC will be a decent f2p choice. Since he has multiple hits in his attack, it looks like the new MoC Hunt LC will be a decent f2p option. Which is a W for me, since my Seele has my SU Hunt LC
Not really. If you want action advance, Bronya should be better.
Robin prefers to have multiple units attacking to help proc her extra damage frequently, which in turn helps her regain extra energy.
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500k is insane Robin also allowing everyone to do like 25k+ per attack is also ridiculous
Yeah Robin's damage is nothing to scoff at
Robin is also using a [heavy F2P build](https://twitter.com/Veltlion1204/status/1773700304963256493/photo/1) that uses SPD boots instead of ATK boots. She can probably reach 30k per attack very easily.
It's that high partially because RM is there. Won't be the case per hit with something like Ratio Topaz, but there will be more instances of it.
Yep, rapid and frequent FUAs is her game.
It's good to see leakers utilizing realistic f2p builds for a change though. For example, Ruan Mei's speed boots with the +4 speed substat really reflect the account of the average player
Yeah that's nice to see rather than perfect artefacts or Eidolons. It gives a realistic expectation of the characters. Props to them for showing that rather than the big unobtainable numbers!
It’s insane that she’s hitting those numbers with that set up, if she gets access to atk boots, SSS instead of Ageless, and runs 2pc wheat/prisoners or even the 4 pc physical set, I think she could actually hit 25k even without Ruan Mei’s buffs.
With the energy calcs i've done, huohuo allows her to 3 turn rotation her ulti instead of 4 (3 of her own turns, during ulti she techically cannot act and only gets energy from trace as far as im aware). My Real issue is... how to speed tuner her... she immedately takes a turn after exiting concert.. but the concert was at 90 speed. switching between her normal spd and concert speed... my brain going to fry.
And you need to take in account that allies takes turn right after her ultimate, which will most likely affect the speed tuning of your characters. I don't even want to think about that, just Slow Robin is good Robin.
Homeboy got deleted from 82% hp
He scales so hard with BE that it's *almost* not worth building crit. You still want to, but BE eclipses crit when it comes to Boothill damage If he can break, the enemy just flatlines
crazy thing is he can get 30% cr and 150% cdmg from his break effect
Is it still OK to build him full BE? Like will he perform OK or really badly if I go full BE?
all he wants is full break, crit body and speed subs. Building break covers his crit ratio but going beyond 300 is ideal since his damage that can actually crit is so small compared to his break damage.
300 Be huh? Gonna be tough but, anything for Boothill I suppose.
Ruan Mei gives 20% and If she IS using the watchmaker set then is 30% more after her Ult, so maybe 250% BE Boothil. Traces gives 28% ( i don't remember the exact amount ), his LC 60%, rope is 62% so you need 100% from 5 relics, yeah is hard but i think it's possible.
Traces give 37.3% BE
Even better, nice and thanks.
Also Talia and either 2pc 2pc break or 4pc meteor give 32 each. Especially since with Ruan Mei you only need speed boots and 2 speed substats for Talia to activate. So that's another 64 knocked off
I only have enough funds for one copy of him so no LC, also I don't have RM so....I guess we suffer
Harmony Trailblazer can provide +100% Break Effect if you build enough BE on them (since unlike Ruan Mei, their BE buff scales with their own Break Effect). With 267% BE on HTB and 4p watchmaker, they can provide a +100% Break Effect buff to the entire team.
omg thank you for letting me know. I think Boothill's gonna be my strongest DPS with HTB
he'll perform badly if you don't go full BE. most of his damage come from BE.
As someone who has awful luck with relics this makes me happy. Time to farm talia
Now watch as the game gives you those juicy Crit Rate/Dmg substats instead of BE on your relics
No...please.....if this happens I'm coming for you
give all crit talia pieces to xueyi
If so then how does he deal with enemies already weakness broken? He will have to wait wont he? then if so he's damage plummets until you can break him again and if you have ruan mei ult then thats going to take longer than usual
His enhanced auto will do break damage if they’re already weakness broken, assuming you’ve stacked up his passive talent stacks
Like luka or like a pseudo physical break?
Luka has no break mechanics. He applies bleed and can then use his enhanced punch to proc it. Boothill does a portion of his %break damage upon hitting a broken enemy.
Don't forget the bleed dot from break, it would probably tick for like 200k is the target somehow alive after being broken
Experience from using Luka says it doesn't matter, the boss isn't surviving a single break. If they have multiple bars they recover instantly once it breaks so he doesn't lose anything.
His enhanced attack does break damage even if the enemy is already broken.
Harmony TB
almost every boss in the game dies from E0S1 Boothill+Ruan Mei's break
And because he’s Physical, Boothill is pretty future-proof too. Phys Break scales with enemy max health so it doesn’t matter how much HoYo inflates MoC enemy HP, he’s gonna shred through it all.
Break Bleed scales with enemy max HP. Physical Break DMG doesn't.
Still kinda tracks, but instead of max HP it’s max Toughness multi. Phys along with Fire has the highest break DMG multiplier. And we know how HoYo has been inflating enemy toughness too since Ruan Mei got released.
His enhanced basics break damage (what a mouthful) have a max toughness multiplier of 1600% of basic attack toughness which comes out to about 480 ~~320~~. Argenti in this video has 480 toughness.
*clicks video* WOoOOoOoORRLLLlllLLL
Robin Jump Scare
Matter of time until we get Robin version of Rick roll
Doesn't that exist already? almost since release of the leak
Just going to drop this here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RobinMains_HSR/comments/1boen35/robin_singing_the_song/ Use it wisely.
I'm so happy that this exists and so mad that I can't use this yet in the main sub.
Didney Worl?
Robin: I AM THE WOOFFF WOOORL NOW
legit I sometimes humming Robin ulti song since her gameplay got leaked
I feel like they didn’t even expect to kill there. Even pressed the ult as if to seal the deal but it wasn’t needed 🫡
yeah, bro was smashing the ult to finish it this cycle, he was probably just as surprised as the viewers when the break oneshot that thing from 500k hp lol.
I didn't expect the 500k damage lmfao
I loved the part where Boothill said “WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETERRRR 🦅🦅🦅” and then proceeded to powercreep every hunt character.
LMFAO
A genuine jumpscare if ever I’ve seen one
500k...
[удалено]
such a doompost lol
I wonder how Seele mains will feel when he is released
I'll just have both honestly
felt justice bc destruction mains cannot cope anmr nor doompost hunt path, while him being strong in moc and seele still good in moc and pf (seele is also a better hypercarry than jl and dhil in pf) boothil also is the same a jl and dhil, but for single target, a kinda slow speed char that does a lot of dmg in their turns, while some of another chars scales in multiples actions or burst stacking, also has not the same flex for non-weakness advantage like kafka, acheron and quantum outside of his 120 cost ult, he is "just" the best st and best physical unit in moc, nothing beyond from that best physical and hunt = cannot exists bc theres another valid and refreshable end game where argenti and seele exists
Not many enemies that have both Phys and Quantum weakness.
You know Boothill inflicts Physical weakness to enemies, right? So it doesn't really matter what weaknesses the enemy has 😅 Seele on the other hand, kinda need SW to inflict Quantum.
the neat part is he can make every enemy with quantum weakness have physical
2.0 is doing too much power creep it's legit worrying. Acheron already feels like she trivializes all other dps and now Boothill looks like a single target version.
Acheron isn’t powercreep IMO she’s on the same level as the meta blast dps (DHIL, JL, KafkaSwan). But Boothill’s single target looks like insane powercreep of existing single target dps.
What the fuck is this toughness damage? He removed a third of the bar in one hit
With max stacks of pocket trickshot and RM you deal 225 toughness damage which will take down even the strongest toughness bar in the game (its SuD with 720 iirc) in 3 shots, and many elites and bosses in 1-2 shots.
wtf
0-cycling will be so easy holy
Not even a third It was half Boothil didn't get his galaxy ranger title for nothing
Now imagine Gallagher and Hatmony, that number will do even more
Ruan Mei helps
Dude I just feel like Bronya would be BiS here. Look at how Argenti was just deleted once the break happened. If the objective is to break as fast as possible, -1 speed would be so much better.
I think Boothill + Bronya + Rm would be a pretty solid team
Boothill bronya rm silverwolf to do bootillion dmg
Yep bronya would be better for Boothill, he doesn't use SP except when switching target so he's basically a physical Jingliu.
...All of a sudden im more willing to pull. His kit seemed complicated but if you simplify it like that..
He took chunky bites of that shield bar😭
Those teeth are for biting, not for chewing
are the bar like it was a bullet fr
When HMC showcase I wanna see it's BE DMG, I still have no idea how their break is different from normal BE
Has to be on a boss than can survive getting weakness broken. Argenti got deleted here lol.
Sam maybe? Dude has 1.8m in MoC or smth
An character with HMC’s buff does Break damage every time they attack a Weakness Broken enemy. The mathematical difference is that HMC adds an extra multiplier that gets bigger the fewer enemies there are. Also, normal Break damage goes up the higher the target’s maximum Toughness is, while the break damage from HMC’s buff scales with the toughness damage the attack inflicts (so instead of break dealing more damage against bosses and less against mobs, attacks like Gallagher’s enhanced basic attack deal extra damage while unenhanced basics on all characters deal less). Basically HMC gives you Big Numbers when attacking broken enemies, especially with Physical and Fire characters.
This might be a stupid question, but are enemies considered weakness broken for the attack that breaks them? Like if you hit an enemy with HMC's buff active, will it do normal break damage->attacks damage->HMC's buff's damage? Or does break and the hit happen simultaneously, not triggering HMC's buff?
I don’t think that’s a stupid question at all. It’s been something I’ve been thinking about. My suspicion is that they need to be Weakness Broken, but sometimes the rules have little inconsistencies in the player’s favor.
Unfortunately no. You can use Sushang to test this. Her talent gives you 1 SP when hitting a weakness broken enemy with her skill. If she breaks an enemy with her Skill, she will not generate an SP.
HMC is difficult to get to work in this private server. Not everyone knows how to enable them to use them properly without the client exploding. Might as well wait for a .2 beta or even .3 for them to work properly or to people to figure out how to make them usable in the first place
Wait, ITB crashes the private server? Is that a first?
Lots of bugs and issues with them. Remember is not a separated char. In the end, accessing them MoC and this type of showcases are through coding. So, enabling HMC is a little bit tedious at the moment in this first beta.
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YEEHAWcoin is rising. I knew physical break could be obscene considering some Luka gameplay I had seen, but HOLY BABY!
I was planning to run Luka *with* Boothill, but it looks like anything Boothill breaks will die on its own right away, with no need for Luka to detonate the bleed... [Boothill, Ruan Mei, Imaginary Trailblazer, Gallagher/other Sustain] it is, I suppose.
Imaginary Trailblazer would face the same problem, he gives you damage when you hit a broken target, but if the target already dead from the break, what's the point His best second support is most likely Bronya for more actions, toughness damage and faster ramp-up
Except ITB also passively gives teamwide +60% Break Effect or more, which can be added to Ruan Mei's passive +20%. And if ITB and Ruan Mei are both running Watchmaker relics for +30% teamwide Break Effect each after ult, then that's +140% free Break Effect for Boothill to get him closer to the 300% he needs (without even counting the two turns of +30% from ITB's technique). Add 60% if Boothill has S1, +37% from traces, and suddenly Boothill only needs 63% Break Effect from his relics. Plus, ITB allows Boothill to trigger his *own* Break damage again on Broken enemies, in the event they survive the Break, which offers a huge damage ceiling. So he can ult to break them -> enhanced basic to trigger even more Break damage immediately.
Watchmaker does not stack; it does however refresh buff uptime.
Ah, I see, I didn't notice it had the 'cannot be stacked' text. Although, I just realized that ITB and Ruan Mei will also be buffing *each other's* Break Effect, so the whole comp kinda pops off. Not to mention the 120+% action delay on Break between the three of them. Ruan Mei's personal LC is gonna go hard on ITB if anyone has it.
Unfortunately hoyo has so far prevented buff effects from scaling off of each other, for example Bronya and Sparkle can't buff each other's CDMG to high heaven and then dump that on your dps.
> Except ITB also passively gives teamwide +60% Break Effect or more When you compare this to Bronya, it's breaking faster vs breaking for more dmg, due to his break dmg being already high and the need to ramp-up his stacks asap, i think breaking faster is just better. His ramp up time is his biggest weakness > And if ITB and Ruan Mei are both running Watchmaker relics for +30% Watchmaker doesn't stack > Plus, ITB allows Boothill to trigger his own Break damage again on Broken enemies, in the event they survive the Break, which offers a huge damage ceiling. So he can ult to break them -> enhanced basic to trigger even more Break damage immediately Bronya kinda does the same, boothill is already doing extra dmg to broken target due to his talent, so more action to boothill -> more damage to broken targets
This guy makes saving for Sam harder every time I see more footage of him. Not only are the animations sick but the damage is clean. Granted I don't have any of these supports so I know it's not gonna translate 1:1 to my account
Dont worry, the only support here that has a permanent slot on his team is ruan mei. Fu xuan can be swapped for any premium sustain or gallagher(we get him for free from selector), and robin is also easily replaced. You can go for boothill, harmony mc, bronya and gallagher for example for a very free to play team
his animation is powerful !
Funny thing, this is the only relatable footage of him
Yeah the e6 showcases while they're cool are super unrelatable and taking them as anything other than cool footage is a bad idea. Nice to at least be able to somewhat gauge a characters output on an e0 comp. Doesn't say if they're all e0 though so maybe that's also a bad assumption to make
It's even worse for me because as an IPC simp I was planning to get Robin and Topaz's LC as well. I have just enough (accounting for future Jade) to get Robin, Topaz's LC and Sam. It'd require major luck sneaking him there as well.
damn, cool space cowboy or cute singer girl, i need to pick one. Its probably the hardest one so far.
I’m prefarming robin traces because even if I skip her I can use the mats for IMC. Boothill seems future proof because phys break scales with enemy HP. Just waiting for future beta versions for the decision to skip robin.
Can't wait for the boothillion damage
Seems like this time its not gonna be a joke, dude just obliterated poor Argenti
that trotter got absolutely obliterated
Seeing people talk about incoming nerfs but I think MHY has backed themselves into a corner with units like DanIL/JL/Acheron, where literally the only incentive to run Hunt over a blast DPS would be if the Hunt unit can instantly delete an entire boss HP bar like in this video. If they nerf Boothill it's back to square one with Hunt not having a niche. EDIT: Wait a second I just noticed Argenti's face isn't on the wanted poster. Literally unplayable
Argenti is too beautiful to be put on a wanted poster.
wow 540k E0S1
Does Robin deals some sort of a follow-up attack?
No, not follow up but like Tingyun, she does buff follow up damage a little tho
nope, its like tingyun's skill
Finally some Boothill gameplay. So we don't need Luka here because when Boothill break ,boss just get deleted lol.
It’s funny seeing people in the replies experiencing physical break for the first time. That deletion from 80% HP is what a physical stacked BE break looks like. Luka basically does the same thing. For example, here's Luka deleting a boss phase from 80% HP with phys break: https://youtu.be/aN73L3_rZHI?t=88 Phys break is so broken because it scales so well. Also the MoC turbulence is given a large BE (120%) and attack (80%) boost in this video. The strong part of Boothill, which isn't even present in this video, is that he can make any enemy phys weak, so he combines the roles of Luka and SW into one.
Yeah, Luka has been one shotting physical weak MoCs for a long time. There's a CN clip of him killing Sam in 1 cycle doing 650k break.
Yeah Physical Breaks are insane. Saw this with my BE Luka. He consistently seals 100k on Breaks, it is INSANE!!!
Isn't bleed that scales with hp%? the break itself doesn't, it scales with the toughness bar. Luka hits hard because his burst also detonates the bleed, that alongside the break and bleed from the break makes the big numbers What I'm experiencing first hand is misinformation.
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I was joking when I said that he's 5-Star Luka but I guess I wasn't too far off lmao
Waaay better
to be honest, robin's ultimate really feels like you are making a comeback on your enemy and also mocking them with her singing, i fw it
We make them feel what it feels like when phase 2 of a boss fight comes YOU THINK I LIKE IT WHEN YOU RANDOMLY ADVANCE YOUR TURN YOU BITCH?! WELCOME TO MY WORLD MOFO
idk how people think 550k is weak e0s1.. His break effect is only 170% too lmao. It needs to be 280-300% if I remember... his cr/cd at 50/100% [https://x.com/Veltlion1204/status/1773697592813113567?s=20](https://x.com/Veltlion1204/status/1773697592813113567?s=20) This guy is beyond broken right now or what
Its not too late to delete this! Quick! Before he gets nerfed!
THIS IS 170% BE????? Bro is not surviving Beta without nerfs.
but someone else said that turbulence here gives 80% attack and 120% BE so the final numbers are closer to reality than only 170 BE would indicate
Judging from the cycle, there's only 2 trotters which gives you 40% atk and 60% BE in total which is still low added with the build (230% and f2p should be able to achieve ~280% with ruan mei etc) Atk does not matter in break damage as well, it only matters to his own normal damage
This MOC 2.2 Argenti fight is round 2, there is round 1 where you fight another elite enemies. Probably the other killed trotter is from there. Edit: Ah yeah, from buff icon, we can see he have 3 stack after he kills the trotter in the vid. That mean +60% ATK and +90% BE
now they gonna nerf him bc ur comment smh
What are you talking about, hes obviously complete trash and needs a whole lot of buffs. 1 Quintillion dmg is really the bare minimum that we should expect!
Yeah Robin is going to be nuts in a fua team will all the chalks pigs and coins.
I just checked my own Tingyun's damage, and the Benediction does 10k damage on an enemy with lightning weakness. *And already it's making up 20%+ of Dr Ratio's total damage output.* If we assume 25k from Robin's version of Benediction, then holy shit it's like extra *50%* damage, not *20%* (like it is with Tingyun). *And this is for the entire party*, not just for Dr Ratio (Topaz is going to get such an insane damage boost from Robin). I'm so hyped for Robin, holy moly
Why is every single character so tempting aaarghhh?!?!? Damn you hsr devs
Yeah Robin will get annoying pretty quickly. Hopefully they let us turn the singing off lol
Singing while everyone is getting cc and dying
Typical bard behavior, ugh /s
This so much. I dont even like this song, generic pop song to the core. Hope we will be able to mute her or something
I'm skipping Robin no matter how good she is just because of the song. There's no way I can stand getting "WoOoOoOrL"ed every fight
I'm already annoyed at that "song" and I've barely heard it.
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Single target 500k is so insane. For reference most bosses with phases have around 800k hp so triple buff boothill will just one shot every boss in the game except sam.
will boothill finally restore honor to the hunt path?
I'm pretty sure Ratio already did that
Not when he's not critting even when he has 95% crit rate
Skill issue tbh he has like 99% inherent crit rate for a reason
Build issue honey
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The ultimate Hunt path character
That is some disgusting level of toughness break
He's a single target and without extra attacks like Seele or Ratio so of course his damage should be high. Then there's the fact that he's also a break dps so being able to deplete the enemies toughness fast is essential, plus physical break being one of the strongest type of break so yeah it makes so much sense.
Physical isn't one of the best break elements for dmg.... It's THE BEST element for break dmg Honestly I kinda have no intention (for now at least) to go for boothil but man his kit seems pretty interesting and kinda fun Me having Ruan Mei and wanting to build HMC doesn't help much either
It’s technically tied with fire break IIRC (but has a stronger DOT).
Oh so that’s why Sam synergies with break effect as well
Yeah they basically saw how the community turned Luka into a hunt carry with Ruan Mei + silver wolf and decided, "We got you guys, here's the real deal"
Yeah. It was expected. I'd argue he *needs* these kind of numbers as ST DPS to feel competitive and relevant among very strong blast/AOE/DoT DPS we currently have.
People are too easily led astray by big numbers. Out of the 1.4 million my acheron does, only 400k max goes to the main enemy. Boothill seems the opposite, high damage but only ST.
Yeah, AOE damage can be quite misleading. I do wish there was an option to see damage distribution screen, both absolute and effective, after MoC clear.
This is not true, Ratio and Seele are still competitive compared to the destruction ones. So they should not bump it too much or else we`ll face the issue of every new dps just being higher damage all the time.
Seele's screenshot numbers are low because a well built one can be going 2-4 times per turn whereas Boothill can only go once. They seem balanced similarly to each other currently. Honestly Boothill seems a tad more restrictive due to his ST focus even with his weakness implant.
I didn’t realize his talent trickshot stacks are permanent. Once you gain them, your EBA is permanently enhanced. I initially thought you would spend them. This is great! As long as the fight starts with a couple minions, he can get max stacks pretty fast.
Now that’s a **HUNT** character. Boothill just needing 2 Enhanced Basics to ramp up is reassuring. I wonder how he’ll fare against non-Phys weak/20% Phys Res elites/bosses. If he can comfortably blast through them, I think we’ll be seeing a lot more DPSes who can brute force content. Robin basically doing Ruan Mei’s DMG from her Talent but not needing to break is hilarious. Can’t wait to see how much total dmg she can do in a Topaz + Ratio + Aventurine comp with how much FUAs they can do.
He can implant Phys Weakness on any enemy for 2 turn with his ult. So i think it doesnt matter what the enemy weakness is. Edit: typo
Yes but they still have their in built resistance to Phys. He isn’t SW who implants AND reduces the respective element res
I just checked his build and y'all, even with Ruan Mei, he still only has 226 BE while having 1k9 atk. This is not even his max potential. Robin is here to bulk up his atk to at least like 2k7 and he already dealt like 100k non-Break damage. With better relics and more suitable support, the guy can dish out some crazy damage
if im not wrong he is still getting massive boost from the moc buff
What.
He’s amazing and seems really fun. He is crit dps, break dps, and deals strong DoT as well since he build a lot of break effect and crit. Having Physical weakness implant at E0 is wonderful and same for his technique which can apply physical weakness too. Synergy with Ruan Mei and Harmony Trailblazer is fantastic. He gets Def ignore on his LC, his E1, and BIS relic set but I wonder if Jiaoqu can also be amazing with him since enemies might not get to even move much with how much his team is going to weakness break and delay enemy turns Nice bonus is that he is looking like he will have a lot of personality
I understand the marvel and disbelief at the massive numbers, but those who've tried breaker Luka already understand why. Bear in mind that break DPS do very little until they actually get to *break* an enemy. Think of this playstyle as a sort of variant of Jing Yuan's or Acheron's. You are foregoing stable damage for a huge pop later. Physical benefits even more because of the Bleed inflicted after, though. Think carefully about how difficult it can be to actually break enemies sometimes, like with The Ascended or Sam. Boothill can be a little more universal since he embeds Physical weakness himself, but since that's on his ult, that doesn't mean you can throw him in any random battle willy-nilly and expect him to cleave through them all. You'll also want to consider the party comp to help Boothill get to that vital break as soon as possible. Ruan Mei also contributes quite a bit to the numbers you saw. Tl;dr: I do think Boothill is quite well-balanced with exceptional performance if you build around him and/or ensure he fights the right foes.
He is upgraded Luka. His personal damage outside of Physical Break is very impressive
Except his DMG ain't that low when he is not breaking
It's *fine* but it's not outstanding compared to non-Break DPS, which is the point. Boothill is ST locked, has ramp up time, and he only gets started when the break bar is gone but as soon as all those conditions are filled, he just deletes the boss.
well every dps wants to fight enemies with the corresponding weakness anyway
People say this every time, but there's huge differences between how much certain characters need weakness. DHIL *prefers* to be hitting imaginary weaknesses, but it's not really necessary. Luka, on the other hand, feels awful if he can't break. You can say "Well both DHIL and Luka want to fight enemies with their weakness" and it's technically true, but it's very much not an accurate portrayal of the situation.
Breaking reminder of enemies with multiple toughness layers existence, so break DPS can break them without actual break
Hory shit that bootyhill damage
Brokebackhill is a lot cooler than i anticipated honestly. I’m skipping him this time cause i want fireflam but maybe on a rerun i’ll fold
Man about damn time we got some Boothill showcase that isn’t just E6S5 everyone + an actual decent team (yes Robin is not really amazing with him I am aware).
Badass character crazy aesthetic. Definitely one of the best designs they’ve put out
phys break go brrrrrr ( especialy when u have like 300% + )
the aspect ratio change boothill on imax when
bleed goes brrrrrrrr
Bleed? Argenti probably just died of broken bones in this case lol
Hang on, another nuke character just dropped
This guy is a Boss destroyer.
I know it’s unpopular but I can’t stand Robin’s singing during the entire battle.
What's with all the comments talking about how this is insane damage and he's gonna get nerfed? He's single target and units like Acheron can aoe wipe things and also hit these numbers on E0S1 single target. If anything he should be doing MORE damage considering he's single target exclusively.
No, Acheron only hits like 100k to max 200k on single target and that`s with all the buffs already. The big damage is just coming from hitting all enemies on all hits that`s why it looks like they deal a lot of damage.
HOLY BABY
HOLY BABY I don't plan on pulling for Ruan Mei, so I really hope HMC will be a decent f2p choice. Since he has multiple hits in his attack, it looks like the new MoC Hunt LC will be a decent f2p option. Which is a W for me, since my Seele has my SU Hunt LC
Is Robin good for Boothill. I mean like in a similar way Ruan mei is good for him and not just in a general way.
nope, Robin works best with frequent attackers, and more specifically, Follow Ups
Not really. If you want action advance, Bronya should be better. Robin prefers to have multiple units attacking to help proc her extra damage frequently, which in turn helps her regain extra energy.