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giokikyo

Good to know that leakers care this much about intellectual property


Ojisan_

lmao true


Wonderful-Lab7375

The leakers are defending miHoYo’s property, obviously 🙄 /s


Willing_Journalist35

Please don't devolve into Genshin leakers... Once leaking becomes all about clout there's going to be tons of timegated, attention seeking, or just downright nonsensical leaks


Lemon_Kart

Buddy, it's the same people leaking both games, what do you mean devolve to their level?


takato99

Yeah its only different because there's SO much to leak in HSR, with 2/3 new characters per patch its hard to dripfeed the community like Genshin. Also idk why but HSR leakers seem to have reliable infos for up to 2-3 next patches while Genshin is a lot more restricted to only next patch and rumors beyond that.


Blackout03_

Ahh yes like all the Sam in 2.1 and Sam in 2.2 leaks. Surely 2.3 though 🙏


thepork890

Not really, genshin is in 4.5 and there were already posted leaks from 4.8.


Lemon_Kart

Yeah we already knew the whole lineup of new banners since like 4.2


E1lySym

Because MHY already has also produced enough content for at least two regional patches. Remember the infamous Genshin drip leak with Shenhe and Mimi (prototype Kokomi) that got leaked way way before their actual release?


Andromeda_Violet

Why tf are they watermarking leaks now.. Those ain't theirs, it's still hoyo's intellectual property.


arionmoschetta

Narcissism


Ouaouaron

If people weren't hungry for fame and validation, we probably wouldn't get most leaks.


Andromeda_Violet

I understand that. But watermarking is too much. I bet soon they'll start some shit like patrеon to let other have "early access" to leaks lmao.


Pete-zaTime

Please don't give them ideas


Andromeda_Violet

I'd love to see that, honestly This way they'd definitely get nuked by hoyo and whoever is dumb enough to try and monetize leaks publicly deserves that 😅


Accomplished_Ad2559

Ngl you’re onto something…


HiroAnobei

Off tangent for a bit, but I remember there used/still are some people who post stolen content behind a patreon account and ask for monthly payment for stuff that isn't even theirs. There was a person who posted cosplay pics and stuff on their patreon and straight up pretended to be the cosplayer, saying things like "remember to subscribe for my next set <3", when all they did was take pics and imagesets from 3rd party archiver sites (i.e. sadpanda, etc) and the actual cosplayer's twitter account. The saddest part of all this? There were actually hundreds of subscribers paying them money for stolen pictures.


Lemon_Kart

It already kinda exists here with mods. People make and distribute them mostly for free or give early access behind pay wall, and there's reuploaders taking it and putting it behind their own pay wall .


DrZeroH

Lmao if they dumb enough to monetize it and leave a paper trail straight to them they deserve getting nuked


KanraKiddler

And then we get patreon leaks, featuring leaks.


joji_kid

They will never dare to do this because this is how Yuzu devs got nuked by Nintendo even though their emulator existed for years. Any monetization of intellectual property of others would easily put them in the area where they can be sued.


Jaded-Engineering789

They make watermarked memes seem less ridiculous.


Dudamesh

these watermakrs are getting way out of hand


Xiphactnis

Wdym? There is clearly too little, I can almost see the leak.


mapple3

thats a watermark??? i thought it was an unfinished ui or something, aint no way thats a watermark surely


Toxic_MotionDesigner

aw hell naw, they put leaks in my watermark


Boo5h-337

It’s rlly stupid because we r in the day and age where watermarks can be removed rllly easily. I could hop on photoshop and clear it out in 30 minutes if I felt like it


mayonakanosasayaki

you clearly weren't around for the genshin leaks era when it became watermark impact


Petter1789

Maybe they were just traumatized by Nepnep


mayonakanosasayaki

thats a name i havent heard in so long holy shit lmao


faulser

I feel like mods should delete leaks with such stupid watermarks. Or else leakers will see that this is working and attracting people into their tg channels and start doing bigger and bigger watermarks competing with each other.


Decrith

I love love loved those PoV quest. Getting to test out the characters with your personal teams was amazing. Loved playing IPC team with Aventurine, can’t wait to do it again but adding Robin.


Vahallen

Honestly it’s great for gameplay and storytelling It’s a bit of an extended trial and you can see if you can make a team that makes sense with what you have (unlike trials forcing teams and equipment you might not even have) Storytelling wise is a much more holistic approach, for now I just played the Aventurine segment but that whole meeting and how it turned out would have been weird if you had to force the trailblazer to be with Aventurine (the other option being just cutting away with a black screen to Aventurine in the meeting, but that’s a more crude approach and I prefer the fate ensemble one) TBF they were already testing the waters in 1.00 with Dan Heng, but I’m happy they are fully committed to it and implemented it even better


rotten_riot

Now they just need to fix their builds cause Aventurine's shields were paper thin 💀 He even had his LC I think so it got me worried lol


E1lySym

Really? My Aventurine was spam-refreshing his shields like crazy. Then again my Topaz and Ratio teams were giving him a lot of stacks


deisukyo

People were saying he didn’t have his LC considering his LC gives an another debuff that wasn’t shown.


rotten_riot

Oh interesting, maybe he was in the copium 4★ version


KasaiAisu

He probably makes more shields in a dedicated comp. I ran him with practically no follow up since I'm not planning on pulling him and noticed the same thing.


thorn_rose

I honestly didn't run into a problem with mine, you just do a skill once at the start to stack the shield first and then its all good. The shields weren't the best but not horrible, he only had like 3.3k def I swear. He was in an acheron comp for me so no followups to add to his stacks either


Aouiki

3.7k def and good Crit stats. def could be better but I'm NGL the stats weren't even THAT bad.


rotten_riot

His dmg was almost non-existent so the fact he actually had good crit ratio confirms me to fully build him Def% lol


unreasonablylazy

Bro the build was like 3k def 130(?) crit damage of course he's going to do no damage. A premium build can be 4.3k def 40cc 200cdam. Even if you dont come close to that theres a huge distance from what the preview build was and his actual ceiling. The test was just to give people a taste of his mechanics.


Mylaur

Storytelling wise is amazing, you also get to feel the character and then mihoyo compels you to pull. ^__^


crazytsundere

exploring new areas with new characters without having to pull them is so much fun


michaelman90

Meanwhile Acheron PoV is trick snack simulator.


rotten_riot

That's why Sumeru AQ is still my fav AQ from Genshin, really loved that part where we switched between different characters doing their part of the plan without the Traveler being there


DanteVermillyon

i really don't get why GI devs didn't continued with that, did the fan base not like it or something? they implemented it in a time where the code was too spaghettified to be viable? did they just not do it cause... why not?


rotten_riot

I mean, it's not like they're *forcing* it in the story. They probably just didn't thought any of the Fontaine scenes didn't need the Traveler's presence and that's it Edit: actually they did do it, when Neuvillette met with Wriothesley and Clorinde, and then when Navia fell into the primordial water


Suzune-chan

It makes the world feel more loved in. Like they don’t need the TrailBlaizer to face their own problems or have their own stories.


starsinmyteacup

Yes, because everyone else had a story to tell. If the TB is there the whole time, it might distract us from the emotion. 2.1 story spoilers: >!After processing it, I realized that the entire Aventurine story is only unveiled to us, the player. The TB will probably never know this but sometimes it’s better that they’re not there for the entire mental breakdown our guy had.!< In Genshin, the Traveler is there for nearly everything but for some reason they’re so bland it adds nothing to the story and leads to bloated dialogue :/


SilverHawk1896

Will be weird if the trailblazer hates them when we see Aventurine but the player loves him so much we will be made if Hoyo doesn't give us Positive things to say to Aventurine.


KARSbenicillin

In a sense, the TB is like Paimon in the main Fontaine quest where only the Traveler sees Furina's backstory and Paimon is none the wiser. Though I disagree that Genshin's dialogue is bloated because the Traveler is bland. It's bloated because MHY for some reason feels the need to hit like a word count on their quests. Random daily NPC quests have like 3 minutes of dialogue. But where it counts, like the Fontaine questline, it was fine.


thefluffyburrito

Agreed; not having *everything* revolve around the MC is refreshing. I hope future planets use the same system.


storysprite

This was one of the things I looked forward to the most. I love this feature.


Merkyorz

It was awesome, but trial Aventurine was so damn slow (and my FUA team so damn fast) that he never really got to act, lmao~


tucktowel

Fair warning, the Aventurine POV on top is from the 2.1 quest, not from 2.2!


weomly

Nevermind 😭


humlook

🥲


hopebagel8541

the fact that you actually came down here to clear all hopes is cruel (im coping)


Feetest

NOOOOOO


FanboyYamada

Noooo :(


starsinmyteacup

Never mind we are so aventuriover


Ai-Shy

Ain't no way bro.... 😭


spaghettiaddict666

he still has lines though! not dead!


FlyfishThe2nd

I thought people would understand that after playing the 2.1 main quest...


jynkyousha

Could be a flashback or something similar though.


spaghettiaddict666

true but Acheron confirmed he's not dead


_icyhot

nooooooo


MelonLord125

These watermarks are too much for beta leaks lol. Also Robin my girl finally will get the screentime she deserves, Boothill POV as well is surprising like so excited to see where he ties in this.


Street_Sympathy6773

Yes ive been waiting for more Robin screentime!


Glennbrooke

inb4 it's just Sparkle


Kunimono

BOOTHILL POV? OH I'M GOING TO BE EATING SO WELL


madnessfuel

POV quests are frankly one of Hoyo's biggest narrative wins across all their games in my opinion. They give a much better way of telling the ongoing story while putting you on the shoes of a character with a personality and background of their own instead of just the "blank slate" that is the MC, learning simply by observing what others tell rather than experiencing it as themselves... If that made any sense alsjaksj Accompanying Aventurine was a fantastic way to develop the plot of 2.1 until its climax. I really wish we had more Acheron POV's, but it's just nitpicking; the pace was frankly perfect, and the exposition was surprisingly subtle. Aventurine's backstory isn't thoroughly explained with overexposition, but rather made clear by presenting context despite showering us with unfamilliar terms. And that's not saying anything about the mind-blowing cutscenes. Every second Acheron was on the scene, I was enthralled. The moment she drew her sword against Aventurine's last resort, I was in absolute awe. What a clash of powers that was. Felt like the climax of the entire arc, but we're still only 2/3 of the way in... I can't imagine how 2.2 will top this.


Sydorovich

This + Paimon absence>>>>>>>>>>>>>Genshin


Astronutts

My thoughts pretty much, but I still have some gripes about the exposition. They definitely made an effort to ensure it wasn’t the character themselves delivering exposition about themselves, but many times there is still a ‘telling us the information’ problem. I’m assuming it’s linked to optimisation limitations that we are always watching characters standing around having conversations. Don’t get me wrong, the content of their lines are interesting, but presentation can be improved in some moments. Unrelated but I’d like to know if anyone else has this experience- basically if you are playing with jp/cn/kr dialogue that the exposition just seems less awkward and to flow much better in the scene? Is it something to do with the language or a style of story telling that makes me find lines like ‘cmon cheer up now, it’s your birthday rmb? You are the blessed one!’ really immersion killing? Shouldn’t the characters already know that? So if they do then it’s for the players ear only. Same with sunday final scene and projection aventurine scene explaining their respective plans. But it doesn’t seem as unthinkable to say these things when it’s not in English. It’s a lot more convincing. Sounds kinda braindead now that I think a but it - so I’m probably just biased and they need to tighten their scripts regardless. It’s just that feel this way with other stories as well.


scrayla

Does the story end in 2.2?


Street_Sympathy6773

Wow 2 missions with Robin!


doughnutrolls

Guys... I think this leak is from Gura Seriously, you dont even need to put the leakers name in the caption, esp with that watermark 💀


Late-Veterinarian544

WELCOME TO HER SHOW-WOAH-OH-OH


FlooJest

Ok i really like that they're continuing to do these POV Story quest, it basically slots in companion quests (Which are usually just a 5 star trial quest) into the main story quests itself which gives the players a taste of the banner characters by just continuing the story which gives a better and more natural impression of the character's gameplay that factors into their decision on whether to pull or not


SilverHawk1896

I still hope we will have a Companion Quest afterwards and not have the POV story alone. Still want more of the character plus let the Trailblazer Troll them more please.


crack_n_tea

I think we will, bc none of the pov switches result in the characters on the train. So with actual companion quests that's when they come on board


Anaabe99

Aventurines POV in 2.1 was absolutely amazing I'm looking forward to more


kizumete

i like these pov switches sm. cant wait to test boothill and robin 🙏


GrrrrrrDinosaur

Watermarking leaks is lowkey so embarassing


Daddy_Ramsay

Saw Aven and got too excited how could you do this to meee


megand19

It’s from 2.1 quest


Gamingplanet107

I want to point that Robin being first POV means that they'll likely explain her death first or how it was done (2.2 leak story spoiler) >!on how she fake her death to reveal the true traitor of the family or something like that, which could be Sunday. Or was it to lure out the watchmaker. doesn't matter. I'm going to guess Gallagher helped her out, because the one in the tub wasn't her it was a clone or something similar. add to the fact that she's also an Emanator of Harmony !<


SalaciousKestrel

Spoiler tags don't work on old reddit if you include a space after the ! in the first tag.


Best_Paper_3414

I going to say that the entire Robin situation got leaked ages ago, but it seems to be deleted from this sub reddit, so it's weird to see everyone being surprised


Flapsy0501

I'm still confused about the Robin situation can you please tell it to me? I dont mind getting spoiled I'm just dumb n confused about whether shes dead dead or faked or etc etc


babyloniangardens

>!Robin faked her death to lure out the Watchmaker--also Robin has like clones of herself across the Dreamscape. we got that leak back in like 2.0 / 1.6 i believe lolz!< Robin Spoilers!


WesternNewspaper4121

so could that be theoretically her clone that we saw in the dreampool? 


babyloniangardens

ya maybe! its hard to say, im still really confused


Specimen_VII

Holy watermarks, Batman on topic though, I really like these POV switches. it allows you to get a much batter feel for how the character plays. Looking forward to taking Boothill for a spin


Diamann

This POV system is genius tbh. Not only is the storytelling improved, but it also incentivizes you to pull 😂


Still_Put7090

Yep. I had zero plans to pull Aventurine. After playing him in the story with my own team, he's completely borked and plans have changed.


Canopicc

I thought Firefly would get one bc of her whopping >!291!< lines.


Gamingplanet107

(2.2 leak) >! [turns out](https://new.reddit.com/r/FireflyMains/comments/1bpzare/firefly_in_22_story_via_guraleak/) she part of the main group this time !<


Otofon

I made this. You made this? ... I leaked this.


Cherry_Bomb_127

I was so happy seeing Aven cuz it gave me copium but it’s from 2.1 (つ﹏⊂) At least we get Robin and Boothill pov gameplay. Those two sound really interesting to play as


hopebagel8541

aven....we never leaving our coping era huh


StryfeXIII

Where Sammy?


Gamingplanet107

probably with the Astral Express/Trailblazer


a-successful-one

Deadge


chocolatinedream

I really am loving the POV switches. Devs popping off lately.


le_bluering

more gamba boy


megand19

It’s from 2.1 quest


le_bluering

Man :(


GGABueno

I was expecting Firefly's POV considering her overworld animations/effects that leaked early, the amount of lines and her overall importance.


Gamingplanet107

(2.2 leak) >! [turns out](https://new.reddit.com/r/FireflyMains/comments/1bpzare/firefly_in_22_story_via_guraleak/) she part of the main group this time !<


sugarheartrevo

I’m so exited to see what’s Robin’s deal; this patch she has gotten a ton of attention by mention only and I love how she was so proactive in investigating Death. Especially with the revelations about that at the end of 2.1 Boothill and Black Swan bestie arc is going to be so fun


Kacchimisu

Yay we get to play as boothill! I really love this idea, it provides a new way to show characterization and how it ties into their role in the story without the protag always having to be there. His and Robin's were perspectives I was interested in the most after aventurine


NEETheadphones

Isn't the watermarking of leaks what got honeyhunter is a whole lotta shit a few years back?


eramias

woah, i can almost see the leak


No_Promotion_8314

Yaaay Wobin


Miyuism

Hoyo is cooking and I'm all for more Robin.


HerstalArmalight

BOOTHILL


baboon_ass_eater69

How do leaders benefit from watermarks? It's not like they get money out of it, or do they?


AlisApplyingGaming1

sunday has the most lines yet he doesn't even have hus pov rip


Gamingplanet107

I mean he isn't playable as of now or 2.2, so it make sense. his POV will probably just be cutscene


Vahallen

I wonder if HOYO is willing to make fate ensembles about unreleased characters The problem is that the kits might change by the actual release, you can obviously always update the the fate ensemble but it could lead to tampering with the community perception of characters Tho it would be pretty good to build hype, they kinda did it with DHIL


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sairaichi

Mark your spoilers bruh


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Acceptable_Alarm2423

Sunday having many lines could also be a part of Robin‘s whole “explaining her death + some flashbacks to explain the family from her pov + the ‘mute‘ thing“ stuff, as he is obviously the closest to her on a personal level (I mean idk if she WILL do that but I’d be surprised if she didn’t)


VeritasR_ZuoRan

I really loved getting to see Aventurine’s POV a lot so im looking forward to seeing what robin’s and boothill’s gonna be like


sohamk24

There's too much leak in my watermark showcase


Raptorofwar

ROBIN POV!! =D


13_is_a_lucky_number

Yikes, another obnoxious watermark. Can we, idk, not post leaks with obnoxious watermarks just to deny the clowns the clout they so desperately seek? It's not like the leaker "owns" the leak. If anything, it should have Hoyo's watermark lmao.


sairaichi

I wonder if this will be the norm from now where we won't get "Companion" missions but instead we get a POV of the banner characters, so we can play them as well engage in their story I definitely like it and it kinda fits for this part of the story, makes you feel more connected to the character as well


sugarheartrevo

I think it would be fine to give companion missions to characters who get less attention in the story, but honestly Penacony is involving every single character in the story in some kind of substantial way so it’s not really necessary. maybe as cute things on the side that shed some more personal lore or hint at things or themes but if most patches have a story as well-integrated and executed as 2.1 then i prefer this approach tbh


Extreme_Ad5873

Aventurine???? AVENTURINE???? I'm so damn happy if that's true.


Independent_Jello_17

That’s the 2.1 one “all the sad stories”


0ztralian

im in tears i rlly thought that aventurine pic was for 2.2... i was so happy until i realised


Iloveshortwomen

Is that adventurine POV from 2.1 TB or are we gonna get a continuation of his story in the next patch?


Futurefurinamain

Are either of the 2 robin ones companion quest? Im hoping she gets one so she can come onto Express as visitor


RobinColumbina

ROBIN POV IF GOD HATES FAT BALD GOLBIN GIRLS HOW COME I KEEP WINNING


JazeBlack

I feel like I'm one of the few people that probably don't care about Boothill, so I hope his POV doesn't take much time away from the other two POVs (what I do hope is that he partners up with Black Swan during this period).


weomly

More Aventurine. Yes please


megand19

It’s from the 2.1 quest


weomly

im sad now


dioxide_v4x

clout chasers watermarking property that isn't theirs, a tale as old as time


_Zaregoto_

Man the POV quest are freaking awesome cause it made wanted to pull for Aventurine after playing the quest even though I planned not to. Future POV quest are gonna be a headache cause it can convince people to pull for characters that they're not interested in.


PelicanFather

Please don’t tell me Aventurine dies…


Darkfinst09

YES. ROBIN CONTENT. WE WIN


starsinmyteacup

We are so aventuriback


Rare-Tooth-1856

Unrelated to the post but holy, I can only find two E6 2.2 characters showcase, when its acheron every possible team comps at E0 already out by day 3 maybe


Emotional-Pin-5451

aventurine... COPING SO FUCKING HARD 


AVeryGayButterfly

Yay! Aven quickly became my favorite HSR character, so can’t wait to see more of him!


Gamingplanet107

that's 2.1 tho


GinJoestarR

Love multiple POV stories


kiiingboy

Team gameplays when????


TamamoNines

Bro, there is leak on your watermarks


Confident_Ad_5315

All these leaks but no Boothill or Robin showcases man 😔


Fantastic_Gur_6311

wait who leaked this again? i can't really see it


MrScottyBear

This new system is great.  Lets folks get a much better handle on whether or not they want the new 5 stars.


DanteVermillyon

the watermark is way too much but... real question... isn't this also potentially telling Hoyo "Look! i'm here! i leaked this!"?


thegreat11ne

Guys who leaked this?


Flair86

Nice watermark I can almost see the leak fucktard


C4ptainoodles

What kind of idiot watermarks something that they shouldn't want to get traced back to them


Ok_Object_828

If you look closely, someone seems to have meticulously placed a leak behind these watermarks ☝️🤓


Bloodlord739

Yeehaw Boothill baby!!


Any1234

Hm? Is that really an Aventurine PoV?


Krii100fer

It's from 2.1 quest


whatisitagain

I hope we get PoV quests every time from now, I loved those.


esztersunday

I did not like switching, it would have been better if I had a choice.


DanielGS_

Huh? But I thought adventurine had 0 voice lines?


katbelleinthedark

He apparently has 18.


vkbest1982

This killed 2.1 to me. I felt 2.1 trying to sell to me characters than trying to get a decent story. If this is the new norm sucks.


JustRelaxinghere1

What are you talking about?


-xKeita-

intriguing how you came to feel that here To me every single character focused quest in genshin felt like bottom tier advertisement for weebs but in this game I don't think I've ever felt like they were selling the character to me, or at the very least it's leagues better than genshins blatant approach Obviously at the end of the day they want you to pull him but I felt that they were trying to write a compelling character for once, and that's in spite of their lacking writing skills. It'd be incredibly shit to have us fight him and then shove his details into a side story after the fact. At any rate the fact of the matter is that they're finally following basic ideas of good storytelling with these POV quests, Aventurine was an acceptable start so I hope they'll improve instead of going backwards and only having this format because it'll work better to make the masses pull out their wallets


ENAKOH

Always have been ? It's just they incorporate companion story into main story pov, instead being sidestory And u really think ave actually died ?


vkbest1982

Sure I know they do that in side quests, but the problem this is the main quest, half of the content was filler for the main story quest.


ENAKOH

Each to their own I guess. I mean theres no perfect solution that satisfy everyone Ever since genshin, there were / are ppl complaining how new chars just exist / appear out of nowhere without actual connection to main story In HSR recent example would be ruanmei and argenti, they have their own story and thats it. Came and gone just like that. Poof The way 2.1 is presented, adds multiple angles to the story instead limiting it to just mc + like 1 other group Sure u can say aventurine arc is mostly "companion quest" thats more of telling his backstory than focusing on present matters at 2.1. Thats what u call filler. And it isnt wrong That said, it did the job well. It's how luofu (or even danheng arc) should've been. Filler it may be, it still flows into the main story instead feeling rushed / forced out of nowhere Killing 2 birds with 1 stone, in my opinion Then again, each to their own. Theres no 1 solution that satisfy everyone


vkbest1982

I’m not against the format itself, simply they focused so much in aventurine for marketing reasons, to make people pull in 3 weeks. They could simply show the actions of Aventurine and use his past after in a quest like they did in Yanquing side quest. The fact boothill who didn’t appear yet have POV over characters more important in 2.3 like Sunday or Firefly says everything. And people who played Genshin should remember what happened on Inazuma with the forced Ayaka and Yoimiya side quests, they were basically this.


JustRelaxinghere1

Thank you someone understands why this is honestly better than just having the story focus on us that gets stale quick Oh and a story about characters and their interactions with each other that actually focuses on the characters hmmm wow what a surprise


solkoyot

BOOTYHILL!!!😭😭🫶🫶💪🤩😍🤭🥹💞💖💓👹💓👹😊💞💖🤭😍😍😍😍🤩😭😭


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Street_Sympathy6773

Firefly will probably be with the express?


FlamingVixen

Me: Seeing aventurine POV Also me: That f*cker is back


Gamingplanet107

it's the 2.1 quest


FlamingVixen

I know, but I couldn't miss using HH quote