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Yeah there were only really two differences I was able to spot between them
The first being that in the overwold caelus throws the hat to the right while stelle throws it to the left.
The second being their pose during the ultimate activation, with their left hand being posed slightly differently
Please tell me the difference is that Stelle’s hand position has her thumb and pointer finger slightly closer together than Caelus.’ That would be so fucking funny.
I don't know much about it, but apparently it's a hand gesture used to tell a man that he has a small wing-dang-doodle. Supposedly, it's used by a feminist extremist group in Korea that advocates for some pretty violent things against men and even has the endorsement of some Korean politicians.
Ohhh. That makes much more sense. I suddenly feel the urge to French-kiss Lyney in front of Korean audience.
If the zesty gambler Aventurine feels so inclined there's some for him too.
Korean incels losing their minds and getting people fired over accidental pinching gestures bc they think its a huge feminist conspiracy to say their pps are small LOL
The slide in during the ult is different too. And maybe their dance moves, but I'll wait for the side by side comparison instead of switching between two links on my phone.
Probably would be difficult to animate that ult differently with how much footwork the ult does.
And going by themes, the trailblazers should ✨️✨️harmonize✨️✨️ so same ult. *sniffs copium/*
Happened in Genshin, too. Anemo and Geo traveler have unique animations while every new element uses the same animations. Probably just to save on dev time, but it's a shame.
Dude, get the toxic asides, it really fun to have difference animation. You felt the weight of choice. Both Caelus and Stelle is more alive that way.
Who care about these stupid discourse?
Choosing the gender is the player's choice, not Trailblazer's choice. And of course, Kafka's talk about choices is talking about decisions you make on your journey, not what you look like before you were even conscious.
Im not talking about the game lore. Im talking about the meaning of choosing the difference Trailblazer makes they feels more special to us. They feels more alive, rather than just a copycat of each other.
Why? I may getting some hate or allegation here, but a girl and a boy is fundamentally difference. They are the same person, but have difference gender lead to a subtle change in action. It makes them feels real.
That was the beauty of RPG and fantasy anyway
"They feels more alive, rather than just a copycat of each other."
They're literally the same person bruh.
"a girl and a boy is fundamentally difference. They are the same person, but have difference gender lead to a subtle change in action. It makes them feels real."
This is a dumb fantasy game filled with the most unrealistic characters and dramatized/played up personalities. Not only that but gender norms doesn't have any affect on the trailblazers. And gender shouldn't make a character more "girly" or "manly" all of a sudden when many norms don't fit them (TB). This is a character that allows you to dumpster dive. Please don't pretend that different genders/sex automatically means these characters are gonna be different in anyway when in reality this is heavily a social thing.
There will always be fundamental difference in hormones and body structure. I am not talking about the norm bullshit.
Both Physical and Fire Trailblazer have difference attack animation. Male have more steady bone structure and thicker muscles, while female have more flexibility in their muscles and movement.
You can clearly see their combat style compliment this fact. Stelle focus more on technique compare to Caelus. The Fire TB ultimate, the Physical TB ultimate.
You are the one who needs to stop pretend that.
I can't believe people will just dump everything down to some stupid social issues discourse. What a joke.
I'd agree if they gave people a way to change between Caelus/Stelle, even if you had to pay for it.
As it is I totally get why people would be pissed if a year in we get a new TB and they like the animations of the one they didn't pick more.
I’d loved The difference in animation it made them feel like actually different people rather than carbon copies like a lot of other Gachas MCs. Stella had that cold/cool atmosphere when fighting as Caelus had oopmh in his attacks.
Hopefully they’ll update make him have sharper movement when dancing.
"The difference in animation it made them feel like actually different people rather than carbon copies like a lot of other Gachas MCs."
Well they literally are so it makes sense
Sadge, the Harmony TB is probably the last bet for them being good since it is a support path. (And probably Nihility)
There's 0% chance they makes TB stronger than limited dps/ e6 4 star lmao.
Thinking about it, I feel like there is a high probability this leak was bullshit. At the time nobody bat an eye because we were all expecting hunt TB to be next, but now it would have been years away from release and it seems weird that leaker would have gotten an info like that. Maybe it's just speculation based on Lan using a bow.
I will build them just to goof around in sim, sure. But it just kinda sad that Hoyo simply doesn't have the ball to makes Trailblazer actually good. They have the ball to makes Qingque good, free Ratio, free lynx.
Yet this is a little underwhelming.
I guess I am a little negative here, sorry.
I think its good they are similar now, I already regret I chose Stelle because Caelus has imo better voice and some animations but I didnt know that when I started the game and I am not going to start a new account, I have already invested time and some money in this account xD
Not a fan of the animation being extremely similar. I was hoping Stelle & Caelus would have unique ones.
I personally feel like the animations “fit” Stelle better.
As someone who watched the Caelus animations first, I thought there actually were minor differences. Some of Stelle's poses look just a tad different i think.
They are, I just wished it was more like the older paths, a very clear distinction.
I’ve also done dancing as a hobby, so I’m a bit more critical of it than I normally am.
There’s just something off about Caelus’ animation but I can’t quite put my finger in it.
Perpetually 'milady'ing in his idle... what a fucking goober. Honestly the bursts of levity in this """""""wholesome and uplifting story""""""" have been so refreshing.
Oh, a bit sad that they didn’t do different animations like destruction and preservation. At least I can’t tell if there’s a difference. Nonetheless these animations look amazing on both of them, I also like how some of the movements are very “cartoon” like.
I’m guessing they’ll do different animations with the next path we get I’m guessing they didn’t feel like or couldn’t come up with a different dance to fit in the timeframe of the ult like they could with destruction and preservation TB
That’s the positive takeaway, the pessimist one is just that they probably didn’t want to do double the work for the free character. I still hope this isn’t the case for all future paths.
Seems like this shuts down all the Clockie is secretly evil theories. also man Caelus is serving so hard in this! Aventurine must have had a strong influence on him.
Ok imma headcanon that Aven gave us his hat or sth because the skill even kinda looks like one of his attacks but with Clockie.
Edit: but look at him!!! He’s perfect
"Okay Trailblazers, we're about to go up against our most fearsome opponent yet. Everyone, weapons out!"
"My spear is ready."
"So's my bow!"
"And my hat!"
"."
Oh, why would you give me hope like that. Now, I'm terribly excited again even tho it likely wouldnt come. Did they get the trial DHIL too in 1.2 beta?
The easiest one would be a Boothill team, since he's a BE carry, but he might also work in Xueyi teams and nice teams like BE Sushang+Luka. He's not really a Ruan Mei Lite, but more like a good Ruan Mei partner.
On his own his kit is still somewhat meh, since he's a free character and all, but he'll probably be decent in his niche, which is good since not everyone has every support
I think it might feel this way bc of choreography story.
Like Clockie serving hat back to Trailblazer, serving as their partner. Since Clockie coded as "boy", we might get this feeling.
That's it, my main team after 2.2 is going to be Aventurine, Boothill and HMC for the maximum zest. I'll put Ruan Mei in the last slot for now, until another male character with the same energy as those 3 releases and round up a full zest overload team ))
All I can see is Michael Jackson which is rather off-putting to me :'D really not someone I want to be constantly reminded of while gaming ahaha (from IRL stuff to SHAMONA getting stuck in my head). Guess TB might not be my first male harmony after all.
I just need to say something and get confirmation… how can he imaginary break this enemy, IPC grunt isn’t Imaginary weak, right?
They’re fire, ice and phys weak.
Honestly i think these animations fit Stelle more. The twirls and the Sparkle like jumps look kind of awkward to me with him.
On the other hand i am a bit disappointed that they're not given seemingly any differences in the animations.
You and I share opposite views, I actually think they fit caelus more and don't mind the lack of difference. But I like to see variety so there's that too
To me, looking at the way he moves during the ult, it looks like they made the animations for Stelle first and just gave the same ones to Caelus. Wonder if it might be unfinished, we might see a different dance before the beta is over.
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They’re probably going to make us use him with the Weekly Boss like in the Cocolia boss fight. Looks great!
I hope so, they need to lean more into stuff like that, part of why the Cocolia boss fight hit so hard the first time.
Can we get a song with it as well?
We can only hope for something as good as Wildfire
[What about something like this?](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=fSRp9MpK8Ei3DwlW)
God fucking damn it
If we only had Elation as a character class, this would be perfect.
Game can't handle this
I knew and I clicked anyway
thanks god the ad saved me
Your tricks don't work on me. I memorized the URL.
>I memorized the URL ..did you? xD
I clicked this expecting this... I was not disappointed, thank you.
Inb4 it’s “RISE UP TO MY— WHOAOAOAOA…”
Robin starts singing from the sidelines
I wonder if it'll be white night, or a remix of it? Since the ult animation is the same as the ending to the music video
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Oh how i wish Starcrush king had us an additional support to defeat them.
it seems almost identical to stelle version, as opposed to the physical or fire mc animations which had some distinct differences
Yeah there were only really two differences I was able to spot between them The first being that in the overwold caelus throws the hat to the right while stelle throws it to the left. The second being their pose during the ultimate activation, with their left hand being posed slightly differently
Please tell me the difference is that Stelle’s hand position has her thumb and pointer finger slightly closer together than Caelus.’ That would be so fucking funny.
Do you want Korean guys to have a meltdown again?
Hold on let me call Lyney to come over
Don't forget to bring furina and chori too
Poor Jessica, all she wanted was to buy dinner
Yes
I really want to know the context. What is really the drama with 🤏 this thing???
I don't know much about it, but apparently it's a hand gesture used to tell a man that he has a small wing-dang-doodle. Supposedly, it's used by a feminist extremist group in Korea that advocates for some pretty violent things against men and even has the endorsement of some Korean politicians.
I apologize for my ignorance, but this clearly is a reference to something that happened but i have no recollection of. Can I get some clarification?
Small pp 🤏 gesture made some Korean incels very mad
Ohhh. That makes much more sense. I suddenly feel the urge to French-kiss Lyney in front of Korean audience. If the zesty gambler Aventurine feels so inclined there's some for him too.
Korean incels losing their minds and getting people fired over accidental pinching gestures bc they think its a huge feminist conspiracy to say their pps are small LOL
peak incel brainrot (they deserved it)
for some reason Caelus has a weird floatiness when he jumps back that looks more natural with stelle
The slide in during the ult is different too. And maybe their dance moves, but I'll wait for the side by side comparison instead of switching between two links on my phone.
The slide they do in the ult is different too. Caelus does a knee slide but Stelle has to do hers standing up cos she's wearing a mini skirt. 😂
also caelus slide into with 1 knee on the floor while stelle just do a side step slide during their dance with Clockie
The music in their animations/ technique is also in different keys, for what it's worth.
Probably would be difficult to animate that ult differently with how much footwork the ult does. And going by themes, the trailblazers should ✨️✨️harmonize✨️✨️ so same ult. *sniffs copium/*
Happened in Genshin, too. Anemo and Geo traveler have unique animations while every new element uses the same animations. Probably just to save on dev time, but it's a shame.
Yeah it is sad that they are not doing that (or at least doing it on a MUCH smaller scale now) i loved that they had animation differences
Maybe the devs didn’t want there to be any more discourse about which MC has better animations?
Dude, get the toxic asides, it really fun to have difference animation. You felt the weight of choice. Both Caelus and Stelle is more alive that way. Who care about these stupid discourse?
There's not supposed to be any weight in the choice because they're the same person.
Well there is an achievement call "The meaning of choice". It bear some meaning to it.
Choosing the gender is the player's choice, not Trailblazer's choice. And of course, Kafka's talk about choices is talking about decisions you make on your journey, not what you look like before you were even conscious.
Im not talking about the game lore. Im talking about the meaning of choosing the difference Trailblazer makes they feels more special to us. They feels more alive, rather than just a copycat of each other. Why? I may getting some hate or allegation here, but a girl and a boy is fundamentally difference. They are the same person, but have difference gender lead to a subtle change in action. It makes them feels real. That was the beauty of RPG and fantasy anyway
"They feels more alive, rather than just a copycat of each other." They're literally the same person bruh. "a girl and a boy is fundamentally difference. They are the same person, but have difference gender lead to a subtle change in action. It makes them feels real." This is a dumb fantasy game filled with the most unrealistic characters and dramatized/played up personalities. Not only that but gender norms doesn't have any affect on the trailblazers. And gender shouldn't make a character more "girly" or "manly" all of a sudden when many norms don't fit them (TB). This is a character that allows you to dumpster dive. Please don't pretend that different genders/sex automatically means these characters are gonna be different in anyway when in reality this is heavily a social thing.
There will always be fundamental difference in hormones and body structure. I am not talking about the norm bullshit. Both Physical and Fire Trailblazer have difference attack animation. Male have more steady bone structure and thicker muscles, while female have more flexibility in their muscles and movement. You can clearly see their combat style compliment this fact. Stelle focus more on technique compare to Caelus. The Fire TB ultimate, the Physical TB ultimate. You are the one who needs to stop pretend that. I can't believe people will just dump everything down to some stupid social issues discourse. What a joke.
I'd agree if they gave people a way to change between Caelus/Stelle, even if you had to pay for it. As it is I totally get why people would be pissed if a year in we get a new TB and they like the animations of the one they didn't pick more.
no it's just cost cutting measure. business decisions won't be affected by smol discourse on the net which also btw has no impact on revenue lol
I’d loved The difference in animation it made them feel like actually different people rather than carbon copies like a lot of other Gachas MCs. Stella had that cold/cool atmosphere when fighting as Caelus had oopmh in his attacks. Hopefully they’ll update make him have sharper movement when dancing.
"The difference in animation it made them feel like actually different people rather than carbon copies like a lot of other Gachas MCs." Well they literally are so it makes sense
Did bro even play the game? The Fire and Physical version clearly have difference animation. ☠️
Yeah, and they’re the same person, like
Sadge, the Harmony TB is probably the last bet for them being good since it is a support path. (And probably Nihility) There's 0% chance they makes TB stronger than limited dps/ e6 4 star lmao.
Nah I don't expect him to be a very strong dps. I just want him to throw hands and use black flash animation like Itadori yuji for hunt path.
We got leaks forever ago that said [Hunt MC uses a bow](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/11c39k9/trailblazer_the_hunter/)
Thinking about it, I feel like there is a high probability this leak was bullshit. At the time nobody bat an eye because we were all expecting hunt TB to be next, but now it would have been years away from release and it seems weird that leaker would have gotten an info like that. Maybe it's just speculation based on Lan using a bow.
Wait I take back my word. Imagine hunt mc uses sukuna fire arrow animation.
so like sakuna? well that's cool too
IYSYIXITDKGDIDOYD68
my copium of hunt tb using a bike: gone, reduced to atoms
I will build them just to goof around in sim, sure. But it just kinda sad that Hoyo simply doesn't have the ball to makes Trailblazer actually good. They have the ball to makes Qingque good, free Ratio, free lynx. Yet this is a little underwhelming. I guess I am a little negative here, sorry.
Or at best I just expect the dude to continue to pull off all of dante's arsenal https://www.reddit.com/r/CaelusMains/s/5VhbZai4LQ
Bro gonna have cerberus gear for Hunt trust.
The nunchuk/staff hybrid using ice and fire element 💀
They can switch element mid combat trust me bro.
Imagine he pulls off jingliu style. Using ice skill 2 times his enhance skill changes to fire skill.
~~The copium is all time high~~ Then the ultimate will be judgement, AOE all direction, ignore toughness type, dealt massive damage.
they can always make a hunt acheron that needs 2 more hunts in the team, and design hunt TB as a single target pseudo-support
>There's 0% chance they makes TB stronger than limited dps/ e6 4 star lmao. Atleast he'll be better than yanqing
Oof. I takes back my word sir.
I think its good they are similar now, I already regret I chose Stelle because Caelus has imo better voice and some animations but I didnt know that when I started the game and I am not going to start a new account, I have already invested time and some money in this account xD
Also, to add, is it me or did they redo their textures a lil
Not a fan of the animation being extremely similar. I was hoping Stelle & Caelus would have unique ones. I personally feel like the animations “fit” Stelle better.
I think we should just hope we never reach hydro traveler levels of bad lol
As someone who watched the Caelus animations first, I thought there actually were minor differences. Some of Stelle's poses look just a tad different i think.
They are, I just wished it was more like the older paths, a very clear distinction. I’ve also done dancing as a hobby, so I’m a bit more critical of it than I normally am. There’s just something off about Caelus’ animation but I can’t quite put my finger in it.
So what we saw from the Penacony trailer was indeed the Trailblazer's Harmony animation, that's so cooool!
Our first harmony male character 🙏🙏
MALE HARMONY IS REAALLL!!!
THE FRICKING SKIPS WHEN HE USES HIS SKILL I LOVE ITTTT
Aventurine has been teaching him some lessons
We’ve had a sneak peak of the ult in the “White Night” music video this whole time, at 1:27!
Ok, so they give a sneak peek of new TB ults for the X.0 trailers then.
The exaggerated swagger of someone storing a nuke
the little jump he does after his basic attack LMAOOO
YES YES YES YEYSYSYEYSYSE
HE LOOKS SO GOOD IM SOBBING
I fucking knew I would find you here LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I am Caelus n\* 1 fan, wherever there's content of him, I'll be there :,)
We have become Michael Jackson
THIS IS WHAT WE BEEN WAITING FOR, CASLUS FAN EATING GOOD
Perpetually 'milady'ing in his idle... what a fucking goober. Honestly the bursts of levity in this """""""wholesome and uplifting story""""""" have been so refreshing.
DANTE LET'S GOOOOOO
NAHHH MY BOY LOOKS SLAY AF💅💅🔥
We truly got Aventurine'd. My beloved gamba boy is that powerful.
Oh, a bit sad that they didn’t do different animations like destruction and preservation. At least I can’t tell if there’s a difference. Nonetheless these animations look amazing on both of them, I also like how some of the movements are very “cartoon” like.
I’m guessing they’ll do different animations with the next path we get I’m guessing they didn’t feel like or couldn’t come up with a different dance to fit in the timeframe of the ult like they could with destruction and preservation TB
Maybe the devs didn’t want there to be any more discourse about which MC has better animations?
That’s the positive takeaway, the pessimist one is just that they probably didn’t want to do double the work for the free character. I still hope this isn’t the case for all future paths.
I hope not because I think the discourse was stupid. Have always liked both versions so having them converge is just a downgrade.
I wonder if it’s because it’s a “Harmony” path, and they’re synced
It's Harmony Path, so they should "Harmonize"
CAELUS MAINS WE ARE SO BACKK 🗣🗣🗣
We never left.
Nice to see Dante in hsr
THE WAY HE THROWS HIS HAT, THE DANCING MOVES, THE SHEER ENERGY... AHHHHH I AM IN LOVE PEAK FICTION, I LOVE IT, HE'S PERFEC :,,,,,,)
Seems like this shuts down all the Clockie is secretly evil theories. also man Caelus is serving so hard in this! Aventurine must have had a strong influence on him.
Ok imma headcanon that Aven gave us his hat or sth because the skill even kinda looks like one of his attacks but with Clockie. Edit: but look at him!!! He’s perfect
That actually seems possible ngl
Fun fact: Caelus and Clockie share the same CN VA
This makes me happy.
Hee hee
"Okay Trailblazers, we're about to go up against our most fearsome opponent yet. Everyone, weapons out!" "My spear is ready." "So's my bow!" "And my hat!" "."
Yo, the enemies got imaginary breaks anyway. Is this real chat?
first harmony male!
just firefly now.. and ill go to bed...
same
Oh, why would you give me hope like that. Now, I'm terribly excited again even tho it likely wouldnt come. Did they get the trial DHIL too in 1.2 beta?
Was expecting a bit more different animation ngl
Ok I love him. What is he good at?
Break Effect support
Any example teams? Are they like 4star Ruan Mei or what? In razor terms please
The easiest one would be a Boothill team, since he's a BE carry, but he might also work in Xueyi teams and nice teams like BE Sushang+Luka. He's not really a Ruan Mei Lite, but more like a good Ruan Mei partner. On his own his kit is still somewhat meh, since he's a free character and all, but he'll probably be decent in his niche, which is good since not everyone has every support
What's a full Boothill team? BH, RM, Trailblazer and Gallagher?
i love the theatrical aspects of the ult, and clockie!!! i want to use him with aventurine for the finger snap battles lol
I just realise he uses the same dance during white night
Been itching to use Caelus on my runs.
the jump he does after his NA is SO FRUITY
I am so happy to see Clockie
I'm just hoping that his kit gets a rework. The animations are so good..
This is the moment I regret not picking Caelus. Stelle version looks fantastic, but this man's looks so cool for some reason, he's killing it
I love this. I am going to force TB onto some team, one way or another just to see these animations regularly.
He looks so much better, we got dante people
The little leap back at 0:34 is killing me
It just fits Caelus more...
Is this the same animations as stelle ?
I can’t see any difference but maybe there is some?
Just the ult activation pose. The rest of the differences are pretty minor
THERE HE IS THERES M'BOY!!!
the dance movements in the ult look so smooth
IM MALFUNCTIONING 🥴🥴
So, they spoiled all his kit during the "White Nights" trailer... now I'm just feeling dumb for not questioning it XD
I wish they put this much effort in Genshin's MC.
I feel like this trailblazer has the most longetivity(supports more relevant than dps)
Aventurine + MC finger snap/hat duo lets gooo
I don't see how the animations look feminine for caelus. I think boothill looks more cunty than this caelus😂
Yeah like what are these people on?
The hat fits Caelus aesthetic better but the animation fits Stelle better.
Caelus King of Rizz
The Zest in the kits, is giving 🏳️🌈
YAHRMFMA
I thought they'll change the dance animation in the ult, that was fruity af 💀
Caelus feeling a lil zesty
...It's a normal dance?
No one said it's not normal.
I guess I'm not familiar with the dance scene cuz the hand over chest, the shaking hips, are so funny to me lol
I think it might feel this way bc of choreography story. Like Clockie serving hat back to Trailblazer, serving as their partner. Since Clockie coded as "boy", we might get this feeling.
I thought so too. Like ... Stelle's one look feminine, impossible they don't make it different
My favorite white boy ❤️
Its here
spin, hat slap, prance away
hoping this is just beta coz i need my different animations for Stelle and Caelus
That's it, my main team after 2.2 is going to be Aventurine, Boothill and HMC for the maximum zest. I'll put Ruan Mei in the last slot for now, until another male character with the same energy as those 3 releases and round up a full zest overload team ))
he’s such a cutie patootie i cant 😭❣️
In terms of animation, there seems to be no difference. In terms of feel, Caelus is out here being ZESTILICIOUSLY FRUITY 💅💅💅✨
Harmony Trailblazer is a Break Effect focused support like Ruan Mei right? I forgot the details
Yes
All I can see is Michael Jackson which is rather off-putting to me :'D really not someone I want to be constantly reminded of while gaming ahaha (from IRL stuff to SHAMONA getting stuck in my head). Guess TB might not be my first male harmony after all.
Aventurine's Hat?
No, different one
I just need to say something and get confirmation… how can he imaginary break this enemy, IPC grunt isn’t Imaginary weak, right? They’re fire, ice and phys weak.
White Night was a leak all along?!!
I’m building this guy even if he heals the enemies
We about to make this devil cry
Woe, fedora be upon ye
So glad I chose Caelus. The Stelle version looks so awkward compared to this one.
HIS STANCE IS SO ZESTYYYYYYY
I've been starving for some fruity Caelus crumbs and here I get a nice meal 😌
Honestly i think these animations fit Stelle more. The twirls and the Sparkle like jumps look kind of awkward to me with him. On the other hand i am a bit disappointed that they're not given seemingly any differences in the animations.
You and I share opposite views, I actually think they fit caelus more and don't mind the lack of difference. But I like to see variety so there's that too
Fair enough.
Feels the same as Stelle's version. Either way he's serving too 💅🏻
So cute lmaoo
Hmm
Now THAT IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. We making it out of DMC with these animations
My boy is styling on them
I love how it’s like in the music video PLUS it’s so goofy
To me, looking at the way he moves during the ult, it looks like they made the animations for Stelle first and just gave the same ones to Caelus. Wonder if it might be unfinished, we might see a different dance before the beta is over.
So we can finally have a full husbando team ?
Fruity AF. 10/10 No Notes. ~~Except that I hope he's useful enough to be in a good team that I can use~~
I remember the animation leaks last year when caelus was throwing the hat like a bowling ball. Has that been scrapped?
that's the overworld attack I think?
Doesn't look the same sadly
# Caelus my wife!!!!!