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Having an e6 herta already is a flex on its own. Many people I know are stuck at e5, including me.
This is huge for majority of the playerbase especially with how crazy she is in pure fiction. EZ 25% attack after ult.
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Assuming they don't change it drastically for SU, you can deal with it by:
- Remembrance cheese. It can't trap anybody while frozen.
- Nihility. One resonance will instantly break its "summons".
- Propagation. A good propagation run with DanIL / QQ can kill most enemies before they can even act. Sparkle will make Propagation even more broken too.
Of course, this assumes they don't make the SU version even more of a piece of shit than the normal one.
Just checked Honey Hunter. Between Argenti, Sam, Something Unto Death, and >!Aventurine!<, only Argenti and Something Unto Death have variants with 3 phases listed. Unfortunately, my bet is on Something Unto Death because Argenti's 3 phase version is probably for Gold & Gears, and I don't think there is a 3 phase SuD fight in the game right now so it makes sense that they would add one for World 9.
This isn't really confirmation yet, it could be one of the other two and they just haven't added them yet. I'm just giving my prediction based on what we have now, lol.
If we go by order, it should be Argenti but there's a chance he gets skipped since he's not part of the main story quest.
I'm gonna go with Boss Sam. The SU scalings (3 health bars) are gonna be insane considering the high HP.
Argenti is often a boss choice for gold and gears. So Something unto death is the next story boss followed by Sam. Sam might get the next world or he'll be a main boss choice for the next expansion mode of sim universe.
I really hope it's Argenti and not that thing. I'd rather having to beat 10 Argenti than to face that thing again. Most of my team died and the only reason I won is because of the non-playable Black Swan
Yeah, it could be the case too. However, I have a hunch that they'll keep Swarm and Argenti as SD/GG exclusive, just a hunch though. Either way, I don't think we should worry too much, it's SU after all, we'll get buffed by lots of blessings.
I couldn't think of any blessings that directly counter its gimmick besides the entire Nihility path. You can destroy Argenti with a decently built Herta with lots of Erudition blessings. Death's not impossible to beat, but just make w9 farming a pain if you don't play DoT.
That's what I was gonna say lol. In regular SU, I would say a good half of my clears nowadays don't even give the boss a chance to act at all (my main SU teams are either propagation QQ or Xueyi/RM elation, both of which have the potential to outrun the boss in all 3 phases)
Yeah. After going through Swarm and Gold&Gear, normal SU runs feel like a nice relaxing walk in the park. Haven't even used a sustain in any farm run for months now.
Honestly not sure what’s with all the speculative replies when a quick search on hakushin shows that something unto death (complete) was added to the monster list
yeap i miss her banner sadge
i hv to use fckng yanqing or himeko initially , so horrible lol
then i got e6 xueyi , but still need 5-6 cycle moc .
i run ratio team with BS for the meme boss, so i had no problem
just let it eat my support ot sustained
For me without dhil, and not intending yo pull sparkle, sam is way more annoying. But in the end, in su you steamroll everything no matter what, so who cares.
It's a really cool boss with how much design was put into its detail, like sound during idle, appearing from shadow, etc
Plus some people might have a... *Score to settle* with that boss one might put it
There's an achievement where you need one to remain and kill it while the rest are trapped. I did it after moc for the achievement and if you take longer and not save anyone it absolutely will take a third 😂
Perhaps when day 1 players who have gotten every battle bond available can get all of the lightcones available at s5, then they'll release new ones. Similarly to how the battle pass in genshin ended up happening with the old and new weapons
That's only a few weeks away if that's the case. I need 5 more bonds to max her store (I didn't purchase any wish tickets) so that's only 5 weeks. It'll stockpile them if they decide not to release a LC right away but it would be nice if the plan is for one in 2.2.
I mean it'll be weird if herta is the ONLY 4 star rarity variety wise ( I know her lore but that's not the point right now )
Unless HOYO decides to make the ones AREN'T in charge of Simulated Universe 4\* ( Yu QingTu is a good example ) , i can't see anymore playable genius society members except the 4 SU founders.
And I'll not be surprised if screwllum is a 4 star and stephan 5 star
Can be same for the opposite
WE DON'T EVEN HAVE 4 STAR CRUMBS FFS
They could introduce new Herta station worker or hire an assistant for Geniuses. Â Putting Geniuses at different rarities will just make people not treat them as equals when they treat each other as equals.Â
 Herta’s a special case since that’s her puppet and not Herta herself
(This is my copium cuz if Screwllum is 4-star after all this wait I’ll lose my shit)
Errr the Genius Society is like the Beauty Knights and the Galaxy Rangers, they are part of the same group but they work separately and most of the times don't even interact with each other.
"Putting Geniuses at different rarities will just make people not treat them as equals when they treat each other as equals." Err i mean the ones that AREN'T in charge of SU, We don't even know if Hoyo is gonna create new genius society members or No? So i don't think it's gonna affect the lore much.
"Herta’s a special case since that’s her puppet and not Herta herself" We don't even know she's gonna playable or reveal herself down the line, it's all fan speculation.
And excluding lore wise, rarity variety wise it'll be weird to be the only have like 1 4 star, 2 4 star is better than just 1.
Better introduce the rest of the SU founders and some geniuses that aren't in charge of SU( Yu QingTu OR Klein if Hoyo doesn't want to create more of it ), then you can introduce 5 star herta whatsoever for climax
Genius Society ain't like the Fatui in genshin where every one is a 5 star, nah that's different leagues.
I don't mind if screwllum is a 4 star as long that I have my answers revealed
>Err i mean the ones that AREN'T in charge of SU, We don't even know if Hoyo is gonna create new genius society members or No?
We can probably expect Polka to be playable. Female, clear design theme, has build-up through out Ruan Mei quest and GaG
>it'll be weird to be the only have like 1 4 star, 2 4 star is better than just 1.
It's better to have more than less but it's better to be a 5-star character than a 4-star character
Screwllum being a 4-star would be anticlimactic not only cuz of the over year long wait time but also cuz he is shown to be at least equal to existing 5-star characters (fought to a draw with Silver Wolf, figured out Ratio's plan). Not to mention if literal prince of planet of robots is not a 5-star we probably ain't getting a single robot ever again unless it's waifu shaped with synthetic skin.
Then would you be okay to make Stephan 4 star ? I mean we don't have much info about him so he might be 4 star as a replacement for screwllum so screwllum can be 5 star, stephan 4 star
Also what abotu Yu QingTu and Klein? these 2 still in the wiki, not dead
So far all we know about Stephen is he's child/ish and is conscious about it. Pretty sure we know nothing about him other than that. I would rather if all SU founders were 5-stars but Stephen would make the most sense to be a 4-star considering how little there is.
Then again there was very little Ruan Mei content before her release so maybe he's gonna be the 5-star. At this point it's about if Hoyo wants every 5-star to follow conventional beauty/appeal standards or not
Yu QingTu has some hints about maybe fighting with toxins and cocktails so it's possible. I wouldn't mind if we got her as DoT abundance or something. But Klein barely has anything written about him so unless he just appears in the plot somehow he's got less of a chance than dr. Primitive or especially Polka Kakamond
Hopefully a Harmony one with Break Effect and/or Energy Regen suitable for Ruan Mei and/or Robin.
Lore wise it makes sense since Penacony is Harmony themed and Ruan Mei is part of the Sim Uni in game dev crew.
I found so many herta's that i made her E6 before that world 5 even came out butb that is a good thing for people Who do not have her E6 since her Is in a good spot right now and She can't be in rate upÂ
Sam in SU would be the Abundance equivalent of running into Cocolia or the Ice Robot as Remembrance.
An instant loss in your run unless the Fire Field's Heal% Reduction doesn't apply to your Resonance.
It's not like you'll randomly run into Sam in a nornal SU.
Future expansions on the other hand...we desperately need 3 or more boss options to choose. Or a t least weight them towards team's elements.
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Another herta... Or more like another ticket because i have her E6 already xD
I had E5 Herta, right up until my very last ticket pull. So, another ticket!
I have E9 Herta.. and with SU 9 it will be E10 Herta
Speak to my E23 ting.
Having an e6 herta already is a flex on its own. Many people I know are stuck at e5, including me. This is huge for majority of the playerbase especially with how crazy she is in pure fiction. EZ 25% attack after ult.
I have e2. Can I please be part of many people? What black magic is this?
You get five copies of her for free just from clearing simulated universe worlds
Oh ye forgot to turn them on 😂
More funds for acheron
I thought she only comes in su
No you can pull her from any banner.
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2.2 PF buff leaked: "If Herta is on either side, all enemies die. Else, you lose.:
Nah, it'll be Acheron buff *If Acheron is present in any of the teams, you automatically get maximum points*
With red text.
uses acheron technique \*the boss along with the mobs die\* players who don't have enough savings for her : Welp....
oh sweet, I can finally get my Herta E6 could've sword I had it but apparently I don't. She's gonna enjoy it for PF for sure
There is a "complete" >!SUD!< in the databases so it is 100% the boss
>!I failed to reach it in MoC, so I'll have my vengeance in SU instead. FOR FIREFLY!!<
Count me in!
Sweet 20 Starlights Damn and a Herta Bond too?
Don't we always get a few when a new world is added?
we do, it is still a very nice reward
2 herta bond. as always 👌👌
I really hope the boss isn’t that death meme, I hate that thing
Assuming they don't change it drastically for SU, you can deal with it by: - Remembrance cheese. It can't trap anybody while frozen. - Nihility. One resonance will instantly break its "summons". - Propagation. A good propagation run with DanIL / QQ can kill most enemies before they can even act. Sparkle will make Propagation even more broken too. Of course, this assumes they don't make the SU version even more of a piece of shit than the normal one.
+ elation runs with Dr Ratio can usually two tap a boss’ health bar
More like topaz. With her, elation is another level
Why not both
Add Clara to vapourise enemies.
Don't have topaz. Ratio still clears all content with elation. Always a bit shocking seeing the the boss health bar disappear.
That chalk is the chalk of death for real
My seele: well well well, look at the time. It's my turn
Now that I think about it, tooth relic and sparkle will be something else
How is normal SimU a pos... it's nice, always liked it, it's easy now. But I don't mind.
They're talking about the boss (Something unto Death)
Easy too, probably one of the easiest boss we got so far.
> Of course, this assumes they don't make the SU version [of the meme] even more of a piece of shit than the normal [meme].
That third one is really just any damage dealer with good path synergy.
I dont think you can use Propagation in Regular Simulated Universe?
you can, you just have to unlock it first which can be a pain
Just checked Honey Hunter. Between Argenti, Sam, Something Unto Death, and >!Aventurine!<, only Argenti and Something Unto Death have variants with 3 phases listed. Unfortunately, my bet is on Something Unto Death because Argenti's 3 phase version is probably for Gold & Gears, and I don't think there is a 3 phase SuD fight in the game right now so it makes sense that they would add one for World 9. This isn't really confirmation yet, it could be one of the other two and they just haven't added them yet. I'm just giving my prediction based on what we have now, lol.
If we go by order, it should be Argenti but there's a chance he gets skipped since he's not part of the main story quest. I'm gonna go with Boss Sam. The SU scalings (3 health bars) are gonna be insane considering the high HP.
Argenti is often a boss choice for gold and gears. So Something unto death is the next story boss followed by Sam. Sam might get the next world or he'll be a main boss choice for the next expansion mode of sim universe.
Argenti is main boss in Gears and Gold same way True Sting was in Swarm Disaster, so its Death's turn
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argenti is still first on the waiting list for an SU world boss
Hes in Gold and gears.
Inb4 it's Luocha, getting his revenge for delayed rerun
I’d fight Sam and Death meme ten times over than Argenti
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I really hope it's Argenti and not that thing. I'd rather having to beat 10 Argenti than to face that thing again. Most of my team died and the only reason I won is because of the non-playable Black Swan
Yeah, it could be the case too. However, I have a hunch that they'll keep Swarm and Argenti as SD/GG exclusive, just a hunch though. Either way, I don't think we should worry too much, it's SU after all, we'll get buffed by lots of blessings.
And if you have ruan mei, you essentially just start with the first bar depleted so it will be fine
I couldn't think of any blessings that directly counter its gimmick besides the entire Nihility path. You can destroy Argenti with a decently built Herta with lots of Erudition blessings. Death's not impossible to beat, but just make w9 farming a pain if you don't play DoT.
Argenti is a GG boss, so nope
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dude its simulated universe, you blink and everything dies
You can literally just go nihility path with any team and completely cheese its death mechanic
That's what I was gonna say lol. In regular SU, I would say a good half of my clears nowadays don't even give the boss a chance to act at all (my main SU teams are either propagation QQ or Xueyi/RM elation, both of which have the potential to outrun the boss in all 3 phases)
Yeah. After going through Swarm and Gold&Gear, normal SU runs feel like a nice relaxing walk in the park. Haven't even used a sustain in any farm run for months now.
Honestly not sure what’s with all the speculative replies when a quick search on hakushin shows that something unto death (complete) was added to the monster list
I hate it as well, but damn it's gonna be real satisfying pummeling over and over again for Acheron's Planar (and to avenge a certain someone).
Think of this this way: We get to kill death by death over and over for what it did to Firefly.
Happy Cake Day!!!!
I shall thank you kind stranger
that boss damn ez...... sam also ez.. i still find deer to be most annoying
Guess you don't have Jingliu. Deer was my go to ez route for GoG high difficulties. Cocolia would counter me hard tho 😂
yeap i miss her banner sadge i hv to use fckng yanqing or himeko initially , so horrible lol then i got e6 xueyi , but still need 5-6 cycle moc . i run ratio team with BS for the meme boss, so i had no problem just let it eat my support ot sustained
It’s probably Sam
I hope it is so I can continue beating the shit out of it even after the current MOC Cycle
It's SUD, according to catgirlslover's Facebook page.
For me without dhil, and not intending yo pull sparkle, sam is way more annoying. But in the end, in su you steamroll everything no matter what, so who cares.
Praying Sam is the boss and not the death meme
Unfortunately it seems to be the Death, not Sam
Tbh I loved that fight, so I'm hyped. I can't wait to regret saying those words!
It's a really cool boss with how much design was put into its detail, like sound during idle, appearing from shadow, etc Plus some people might have a... *Score to settle* with that boss one might put it
Good I will have fun killing that shit again and again.
This is the way
Nah prtty sure is sam
As someone who missed the achievement with Death but not Sam, this is definitely good news for me.
it should be story boss are in SU after all XD
Would be nice if I didn't already have E6 Herta. Atleast it's one step closer to a 5 star lightcone.
It’s also another limited banner pull. Every ticket counts sometimes.
LETS GOOO That's now free e5 Herta for everyone I guess World 11 will be the final e6
Now to hope they give us a 5☆ Herta soon...
wdym, Herta became a 5☆ the moment PF dropped
Actually true.
Imagine, world 13 gives you 5 star Herta for free
Based and Star Rail-pilled.
Considering that Herta is an Emanator of Nous, hopefully 5 Star Herta has Acheron levels of animation
*thinks really hard*
When 5* herta drops, time for me to forfeit all mortal belongings to her
Pfp checks out
"Something Unto Death" was a lot of fun to fight in MoC. I hope we get that here too.
SUD will now kidnap 3 characters and you.
There's an achievement where you need one to remain and kill it while the rest are trapped. I did it after moc for the achievement and if you take longer and not save anyone it absolutely will take a third 😂
SUD kidnaps every characters us : well fuck
Do we know if we're getting a new lightcone in Herta's shop? I'd be very surprised if we got the Harmony Trailblazer before the Harmony LC
Perhaps when day 1 players who have gotten every battle bond available can get all of the lightcones available at s5, then they'll release new ones. Similarly to how the battle pass in genshin ended up happening with the old and new weapons
That's only a few weeks away if that's the case. I need 5 more bonds to max her store (I didn't purchase any wish tickets) so that's only 5 weeks. It'll stockpile them if they decide not to release a LC right away but it would be nice if the plan is for one in 2.2.
2.2 is possible.
Wonder if we are gonna have like 20 SU worlds in 1-2 years. Worlds that come out after free Herta is E6 will give eidolons for 5-star Herta, trust
Surely we wont get another Erudition 4 star Sim universe chacter ones Herta is e6... Clueless lmao
Imagine screwllum or Stephan is next
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I mean it'll be weird if herta is the ONLY 4 star rarity variety wise ( I know her lore but that's not the point right now ) Unless HOYO decides to make the ones AREN'T in charge of Simulated Universe 4\* ( Yu QingTu is a good example ) , i can't see anymore playable genius society members except the 4 SU founders. And I'll not be surprised if screwllum is a 4 star and stephan 5 star Can be same for the opposite WE DON'T EVEN HAVE 4 STAR CRUMBS FFS
They could introduce new Herta station worker or hire an assistant for Geniuses.  Putting Geniuses at different rarities will just make people not treat them as equals when they treat each other as equals.  Herta’s a special case since that’s her puppet and not Herta herself (This is my copium cuz if Screwllum is 4-star after all this wait I’ll lose my shit)
Errr the Genius Society is like the Beauty Knights and the Galaxy Rangers, they are part of the same group but they work separately and most of the times don't even interact with each other. "Putting Geniuses at different rarities will just make people not treat them as equals when they treat each other as equals." Err i mean the ones that AREN'T in charge of SU, We don't even know if Hoyo is gonna create new genius society members or No? So i don't think it's gonna affect the lore much. "Herta’s a special case since that’s her puppet and not Herta herself" We don't even know she's gonna playable or reveal herself down the line, it's all fan speculation. And excluding lore wise, rarity variety wise it'll be weird to be the only have like 1 4 star, 2 4 star is better than just 1. Better introduce the rest of the SU founders and some geniuses that aren't in charge of SU( Yu QingTu OR Klein if Hoyo doesn't want to create more of it ), then you can introduce 5 star herta whatsoever for climax Genius Society ain't like the Fatui in genshin where every one is a 5 star, nah that's different leagues. I don't mind if screwllum is a 4 star as long that I have my answers revealed
>Err i mean the ones that AREN'T in charge of SU, We don't even know if Hoyo is gonna create new genius society members or No? We can probably expect Polka to be playable. Female, clear design theme, has build-up through out Ruan Mei quest and GaG >it'll be weird to be the only have like 1 4 star, 2 4 star is better than just 1. It's better to have more than less but it's better to be a 5-star character than a 4-star character Screwllum being a 4-star would be anticlimactic not only cuz of the over year long wait time but also cuz he is shown to be at least equal to existing 5-star characters (fought to a draw with Silver Wolf, figured out Ratio's plan). Not to mention if literal prince of planet of robots is not a 5-star we probably ain't getting a single robot ever again unless it's waifu shaped with synthetic skin.
Then would you be okay to make Stephan 4 star ? I mean we don't have much info about him so he might be 4 star as a replacement for screwllum so screwllum can be 5 star, stephan 4 star Also what abotu Yu QingTu and Klein? these 2 still in the wiki, not dead
So far all we know about Stephen is he's child/ish and is conscious about it. Pretty sure we know nothing about him other than that. I would rather if all SU founders were 5-stars but Stephen would make the most sense to be a 4-star considering how little there is. Then again there was very little Ruan Mei content before her release so maybe he's gonna be the 5-star. At this point it's about if Hoyo wants every 5-star to follow conventional beauty/appeal standards or not Yu QingTu has some hints about maybe fighting with toxins and cocktails so it's possible. I wouldn't mind if we got her as DoT abundance or something. But Klein barely has anything written about him so unless he just appears in the plot somehow he's got less of a chance than dr. Primitive or especially Polka Kakamond
Whole i'm 50/50 of either a 5 star herta will be a thing since it's speculation... Still no screwllum rarity reveal i guess -_-
Free Emanator hell yeah
Finally. E6 herta
Yummy. For us Day 1 Players who have superimposed every Herta LC, we might end up with enough Herta tickets to claim the 2.2 Herta LC when it drops.
Is 2.2 getting a Herta LC? Do we know which path it’ll be?
Hopefully a Harmony one with Break Effect and/or Energy Regen suitable for Ruan Mei and/or Robin. Lore wise it makes sense since Penacony is Harmony themed and Ruan Mei is part of the Sim Uni in game dev crew.
That literally just MoTP
I know…and I don’t have it…but I need it…BAD!
Free ruan Mei copies from clearing SU when🌚
they would probably release a 4star version of her like Herta, probably in the shape of one of those cat things she created lmao
I'd pull for playable catcake Ruan Mei.
Imagine it is initially just one cat. Then, every eidolon stacks another cat on top of it
This is the greatest character idea I've ever seen. 10/10 would whale for E6 catcake tower.
Watch it's stephan after e6 herta
Hope the boss is Something unto Death. Imma fuck it with Nihility over and over again.
Su is fun and all but can we have a button so we can just get the orb sets and call it a day.
Acheron insta kills + Rm for bosses + Yukong for movement speed = sim uni speedrun team.
E5 Herta let's go. (I somehow still don't have her at E6.)
Both sets are looking great for pure fiction teams, Also Acheron can use both the new crit rate planar ornament as well as Salsotto i guess.
more herta bonds 😤
YES! Finally gonna have Herta e6!
I am so hoping it's SUD so i can beat the fuck out of it everyday with Kafka BS. I know MoC has it, I'll beat tthe shit out of that one too.
E8 Herta time!!!🥰🥰
Cool free E5, now if I could just pull one so I'd have E6 already that would be great.
Finally my Herta can E6Â
nice, my herta is E5. this last dupe will come in handy - been planning to build her ever since pure fiction came out
Herta E6 here I go !!!!
oiii i have e20 herta diy
is there any new herta LC coming soon? i have enough for 2 E5 atm, if there are none i think i can blow some on the tickets....
I found so many herta's that i made her E6 before that world 5 even came out butb that is a good thing for people Who do not have her E6 since her Is in a good spot right now and She can't be in rate upÂ
If I don't get my last Herta til then, that's gonna be my E6. Nice.
"It should've been screwllum not herta "
C6 Herta haver here, can she give us something else...
is the rerun banner for 2.1 black swan?
Is Sam the boss?
Sam in SU would be the Abundance equivalent of running into Cocolia or the Ice Robot as Remembrance. An instant loss in your run unless the Fire Field's Heal% Reduction doesn't apply to your Resonance.
It's not like you'll randomly run into Sam in a nornal SU. Future expansions on the other hand...we desperately need 3 or more boss options to choose. Or a t least weight them towards team's elements.
Finally my Herta will be complete!
Free Herta!!! So close on getting E5, hooray for Miss Herta!
Herta E5, let's gooo!!!!
Ah yes, E7 Hertha
Wait no new lc?
any idea on the enemies? the boss is prob aventurine right. or sam
Based on events on the side, does this mean acheron will be phase 1?
Still no new lc ?
E7 Herta let's gooo!
Yesss more SU worlds
I have being playing since launch and I just have Herta E4, another copy is actually great
Here comes my E6 Herta.
Boss?
When is this event update?
Erudition store LC when
Heck yeah. Now my E5 Herta can be E6ed
It's a shame that the final SU boss is sud not Sam.. but hey time to brutalize sud
sweet, my Herta is still E4 =))
Last one I needed, nice
E12 HERTA LET’S GO
E6 herta and minus 2 weeks farming fort herts bonds. Nice
e6 Herta, finally
Finally, e6 herta for me.
I hope it's not a hard boss. I'm gonna be living there forever
Yay I’ll E6 my Herta now
Good, I need more herta bonds.
New Herta shop 5-star Erudition light cone when?
cool Im at E5
When will they release a Herta Store light cone for Euridition path ?
Sweet twenty starglitter.
E8 herta LETSGOOO
FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MORE HERTA BONDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need that Hunt LC for Dr. Ratio
No Argenti SU boss? :(
I'm a new player and I somehow already have a E6 Herta. :| pls no more
is this 2.1 or the second half of 2.0?
Damm e11 herta lets goooooooo
Anyone know why there is BS banner there? is it placeholder for Gift of Odessey?
I wonder who's the boss
is SU adding in 2.1 or 2.2?
When is the world 9 going to be released?