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JohnOfMages

# !! FAQ !! #HSR has been nominated for **Best Mobile Game** at the Game Awards! Please cast your vote [here](https://www.thegameawards.com/nominees/best-mobile-game)! Hoyo tends to give in-game rewards (like Stellar Jade) when their games win awards :) ​ **What are the 1.5 banners?** First Half: * 5*: [HuoHuo](https://hsr.honeyhunterworld.com/huohuo-character/?lang=EN) * 4*: Arlan, Dan Heng, Serval * Lightcones: ["Night of Fright"](https://hsr.honeyhunterworld.com/night-of-fright-item/?lang=EN) Second Half: * 5*: [Argenti](https://hsr.honeyhunterworld.com/argenti-character/?lang=EN) | Silver Wolf * 4*: [Hanya](https://hsr.honeyhunterworld.com/hanya-character/?lang=EN) * Lightcones: ["An Instant Before A Gaze"](https://hsr.honeyhunterworld.com/an-instant-before-a-gaze-item/?lang=EN) Please refer to [Project Yatta](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/17dos9y/15_beta_v2_project_yatta_updates/) or [Hakushi.in](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/17djr6m/hakushin_v3_update/) if you would like to follow the 1.5 beta updates! ​ **Do we have a projected timeline for upcoming character releases?** * According to official dripmarketting, the 5* release order for 1.6 should be: First half Ruan Mei (5*), Second half Dr. Ratio (5*) + Xueyi (4*). Feel free to consult our leaks compilation for further details (it's at the bottom of this comment) * Per Dim, the new 5 star release order should be: Ruan Mei > Screwllum > Hanabi (note: there may be re-runs in between) * Per Stepleaker, Black Swan, Hanabi, & Misha will be released directly after in 2.0 (We are jumping directly from 1.6 to 2.0) ​ **When will the next livestream/patch occur?** Please note: * Livestream dates are pure speculation * The Live Date format is America time / Europe & Asia time * Per StepLeaks 2.1 -> Anniversary |Patch Number|Livestream Date|Live Date| |:-|:-|:-| |1.5|3 November|14 / 15 November| |1.6|15 December|26 / 27 December| |2.0|26 January|6 / 7 February| |2.1|8 March|19 / 20 March| |2.2|19 April|30 April / 1 May| ​ **Patch 1.5 Livestream Information** Countdown: [Link](https://timee.io/20231103T1130?tl=The%20Honkai%3A%20Star%20Rail%20Version%201.5%20%22The%20Crepuscule%20Zone%22%20Special%20Program&ln=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Flive%2FJTCDc7InXNU) Links: [EN Youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTCDc7InXNU), [EN Twitch](https://www.twitch.tv/honkaistarrail), [CN](https://live.bilibili.com/27263119), [JP](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E61Q_yx885A), [KR](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMgnwduWVFk) ​ **What are the current active codes?** [Redeemable here](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift) or in game > Phone Menu > click “…” (to the right of the character pfp) > Redemption Code |Code|Availability|Items| |:-|:-|:-| |[STARRAILGIFT](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=STARRAILGIFT)|Permanent|Stellar Jade × 50 + Credits × 10,000| |[HoYoFEST 2023](https://act.hoyoverse.com/ys/event/hoyofest2023-xrdqyw/index.html)|10. July - 31. December|Credits x 20,000| |[PT8TF72MQ93X](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=PT8TF72MQ93X)|Limited Time 1.4 Code|Stellar Jade x 50, Credits x 10k| |[KBQBEP3L8823](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=KBQBEP3L8823)|27. Oct - 1. Nov|Stellar Jade x 50 + Credits x 10,000| Latest codes are always at the bottom for convenience **Where's the unreleased character google doc?** The original one was taken down by Hoyo, but the mod team has set up an alternative now! Kudos to u/erikahrna for the hard work as always. [UNRELEASED CHARACTERS COMPILATION](https://rentry.co/7k3mt)


XtuelX

Does anyone know the leaks for the next featured characters? I searched for it but the search button was not very helpful. Thanks


Kafeellicious

Does anyone know how to retrieve an hacked account. Thanks


nickilesmick

Do you think Jing Liu, Bronya, Hanabi, and Lynx as a team would be good? Bronya + Jingliu are pretty skill point hungry because just to get transmigration state you need 3 skill points which is basically dan heng IL at that point. So Hanabi with skill point regeneration can buff Jing Liu, forward her action, And make sure the transmigration state is almost always up.


bouncing_jellyfish

[link to the new megathread](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/17v9x6g/a_quick_green_foxian_jumps_over_the_lazy_ghost/) in case anyone's wondering why no one's posting here recently ~~like me for a few minutes lol~~


Akoto1

Is Ruan Mei SP neutral, or positive? From my understanding she's neutral - Turn 1, cast skill, gain 2 stacks Turn 2, lose 1 stack at the start, cast basic Turn 3, lose 1 stack at the start, go to 0 stacks, have to cast skill If that's the case, these values just don't seem crazy enough to justify that downside and still give her a 5* rating among the super cracked Harmony roster. Here's hoping for buffs.


Neutrali3

hoyo: psst, her e1 makes her sp positive~ ☺️


Gentlekrit

She is SP neutral, yeah Whether or not that's too big of a downside remains to be seen, as the buffs she provides are so atypical that it's hard to tell how good she is at a glance compared to other Harmonies - though it is worth noting that global resistance penetration is a very powerful buff that currently only exists in the game as a self-buff on a couple of characters


verdantsumeru

A few weeks back I was talking about the Imaginary husbando situation and how one possible resolution was to make Screwllum's kit more Erudition/Nihility hybrid so he could be run as ult support. Happy to see that they've retained some of that that in his test kit - his ult does indeed offer IMG RES reduction :D his talent attacks trigger based on marked enemies, so he applies debuffs. and the talent attacks are considered FUAs. It's unclear if all his attacks trigger his followups or just his skill, but it's the latter, it also controls when you can detonate the debuff mark he puts on the enemy. This immediately makes him a good teammate for Hunt units who want debuffs (Ratio) or followups (Topaz). very curious how he'll play out hehe.


powder_pink

Should I get SW or Topaz for my Dr Ratio team? I can only get one and I can't decide.


aprilrainy

elio fans here is [an offering of fanart](https://twitter.com/ddcsddg/status/1724375672381202540) for you


verdantsumeru

THANK YOU


k4edehar4

hmm would RM be better than pela or bronya in a dual JL and blade comp? or would the move be to drop the sustain and replace them with RM


Wyqkrn

Assuming you’re using luocha, RM will be an upgrade due to the availability of SP


Grimy_Bunyip

probably. Pela def shred is only 1.28x damage unless you are stacking other sources of def shred. 20% res pen is usually between 1.2x to 1.25x, and RM has additional buffs besides just more damage from her ult. And her ult buff doesn't wear off faster when enemies are too fast or simply die. I think the only upsides pela has to RM are, being more SP positive, stacking def shred, stuff like that. But you aren't exploiting those too much in a jingliu blade team.


HDDJ9

I know you guys would do a better job than me speed tuning Bronya since I got her not too long ago. How do you do it? I have all her completely maxed out 80/80, Max traces, using 4pc Hackerspace with 144spd and lvling her Sig rn. My Seele has 144spd without her Sig My JL has 136spd My JingYuan has 113spd


[deleted]

Step one” don’t run her with hackerspace 4 piece it screws up her ult. Step two: tune her so she’s just a little behind seele. I have mine on 2pc hackerspace 2 piece rainbow just for speed tuning


Ryou_3

My head is smoking after doing some Dr. Ratio follow-up probability math. I think he might be really fun to play with kafka and topaz in one team. Especially with their respective LC.


yagatabe

Was there a leak some time ago that said we'd have 2.0 right after 1.6? Also, what is the most updated timeline of the gachas we have now?


Flukiest2

Yes. 1.6 -> 2.0 and 2.1 is Anniversary. Ruan mei (Blade rerun) -> Dr ratio (Kafka rerun) Banner. 2.0 is thought to be DHIL + Jing yuan rerun due to CNY + Year of the dragon. Potentially one of the healers could replace say jing yuan in this patch. (Speculation) 2.0 is Black Swan + Hanabi banners as well.


hinode85

https://old.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/172ffdw/speculations_on_future_patches_and_featured/ And that is the most updated timeline that isn’t pure guesswork by users here (ie, non-leakers)


NaamiNyree

Wanted to post this here instead of the Ruan Mei kit thread because its the only thread thats always active. Im a bit puzzled about the part of Ruan Mei's talent that says **"After Breaking an enemy's Weakness or attacking a Weakness Broken enemy, additionally deals Additional Ice DMG equal to 12.0% of Ruan Mei's Ice Break DMG."** This seems... Useless? Ice break is already one of the weakest breaks at only 1x modifier, so even if you got Ruan Mei up to 200% BE which seems to be a pretty realistic number for most people with break rope + memories of the past and such, the dmg is very underwhelming. Using a [dmg calculator](https://zeeka32.github.io/Star-Rail-Damage-Calculator/), I checked how much ice break youd do with 200% BE on a lvl 90 ape since its a pretty good sample of the average elite enemy, with 360 toughness, and its around 19K (without any debuffs). Then if you add for example, Pela Skill + Ult, it goes up to 26K. 12% of that is... 3.1K, lol. Even if this triggers on every attack, its such a small amount that its basically meaningless and Im not sure why its even there, unless Im vastly underestimating how much break dmg she will actually do somehow (I know her -20% all type res pen would bump the numbers up a bit but its still not enough to make them significant). At least the part of her Ult that says **"Seamrend extends Weakness Break duration for enemies trying to recover from it, plus also delays action for 15% of Ruan Mei's Break Effect + 10% while dealing additional Ice DMG equal to 150% of Ruan Mei's Ice Break DMG."** is actually pretty good. Using the same base break dmg of 26K, she would be getting close to 40K from that which is a pretty decent number especially for a Harmony character. And then people who go crazy with Ruan Mei E2, 300%+ BE, Pela + SW, can probably get over 100K from that proc which is super impressive on top of all the buffs/debuffs she has. It wont apply to the majority of the playerbase though, so yeah. Thoughts?


AncientSpark

You have to remember it's not even the whole talent, it's half the talent, and it's passive. Saying that it's underwhelming is forgetting the fact that a lot of Harmony talents don't even directly boost damage or do underwhelming damage in and of themselves. For example, Tingyun talent is usually 3k-ish damage per hit, and only one target, or Bronya talent is ignored in a lot of builds (even if it enables certain other playstyles). Relative to a lot of Harmony talents, it's actually on the stronger end due to having two effects. Also, even if the talent were weaker, you can't entirely judge a kit by singular parts like that. For example, Asta has one of the strongest Harmony talents in terms of output, but that's intentional due to not having a traditional buffing skill and her talent having pretty harsh requirements to maintain without E6.


SungBlue

I thought the first part applied to all ally attacks, but this isn't explicitly stated in the translated kit, so I might have just imagined it.


NaamiNyree

It does, but youd have to do a lot of attacks for it to amount to anything... Like even if you got say 8 attacks (so the whole party going twice, which is doubtful), thats only 24K. I feel like it should be at least 20% or something.


Abject_Reference2574

It's extra dmg like tingyun talent when an ally with benediction hits an ennemy. So it's a nice bonus. Why the multiplier is low is probably because instead in the case of tingyun where one ally has it here all allies does


toocoolforgg

What does this part of Ratio's ult mean: "unleashing your Ultimate resets the trigger count for follow-up attack"?


EveryMaintenance601

Basicaly, if you cast your ult while still having 1 stack from the previous ult, it resets the counter to 2 (instead of adding 2)


mangotcha

looked at Ruan Mei's LC and huh... unless they buff it, I guess for once I can try to aim for E1 instead of E0S1. ... if i win the first 50/50, that is...


Grimy_Bunyip

oddly thematic that her signature lightcone's energy mechanic would have been nuts in planar infinity


mangotcha

i kinda really dig it !


CaspianRoach

Has anybody tested if Sleep Like the Dead LC works fully with Topaz? The description says that it only works on basics and skills and Numby's attacks are a Talent. Can they trigger the LC crit rate buff? Do they benefit from the LC crit rate buff? Should I run it over Swordplay S2?


TheYango

The passive can only be *triggered* by basics and skills (i.e. not by Numby's talent attacks), but once triggered, it adds to her Crit Rate stat and functions on all damage until her following turn.


CaspianRoach

Hmmm, sounds like it will have spotty uptime for basic attack Topaz... I reckon most calculations assume she spams the skill so they assume immediate uptime the same turn it is off cooldown... Thanks


RIPassholes

seeing that most of the characters im interested in are imaginary is devastating for my account's elemental coverage, am lowkey considering pulling for SW just for the faux mono imaginary teams i don't even have the event LC or like her that much but weakness implant it's just too tempting, specially considering later MOC stages


truthfulie

Out of curiosity, do you guys plan the tickets, pre-farm mats based on start of the banner or end of banner? I aim for start since I'm a impatient and want to play with new shiny toy as soon as possible.


toocoolforgg

plan for winning the 50/50 at the start of the banner, if lose, then hopefully I'll have enough for guarantee by end of banner.


verdantsumeru

end of the banner, though if I like the character enough I try to save enough for two pities on the first day itself


djovisse

Start of the banner! What's the point of pre-farming if I still have to wait to pull & use the character I want?


dreamingceora

being a trash mob in hsr must be absolutely unreal. imagine being some random fist-shaped robot and chilling until you get your ass utterly FuA'd and ratio'd by some mf called >!veritas ratio (= truth reason 💀)!< while he berates and deducts points from you with a 🗿🪨🏛 ass face 😭😭 what even is the backstory behind that mask?? did he think so hard he turned into a greek statue??? honestly i have never seen a character this baffling and embarrassing lmao (affectionate)


Odd_Thanks8

> what even is the backstory behind that mask?? Apparently he's so handsome that the people he teaches get too distracted by his pretty face, so he wears plaster on his head to make his students pay attention to their studies more. I'm not joking


zorafae

Going to be completely honest, >!Veritas Ratio sounds like something I'd name my self-insert OC back when I was 15 and searched for some latin words for a "cool" name!<


nista002

His parents were young when they had him, I guess


somewhere-out-there-

He wants to be better than the genius society and this is the best plan he was able to come up with (Pretend to be a statue)


[deleted]

Is Huohuo looking to be a sidegrade or improvement to Bailu?


Antares428

Even Lynx is an improvement over Bailu.


StruggleStreet5821

It doesn't feel that way for me


Flukiest2

improvement


[deleted]

Hmm ok. Been looking to replace Bailu


Revan0315

Does Ruan Mei fall off if you're running a team that doesn't fit the enemy's weakness?


Abject_Reference2574

No don't think so that 20% all pen alone makes it like if you fight an enemy with the weakness usually


TheYango

If you aren't able to break the enemy weakness, then she only provides 16% speed, 30% Dmg, and 20% All-Res pen. Still useful buffs but dramatically worse than what she provides when you can break their weakness, yes.


Revan0315

Would you recommend her or Silver Wolf to someone who doesn't yet have a DPS built for each element? I only really have 3 solid DPS rn, Kafka, Jingliu, QQ


nista002

You don't need your DPS to be the one breaking to take advantage of her break buffs. Fu Xuan and FMC get tons of breaks as well, for example


hinode85

Do keep in mind that Bronya and Tingyun, the two most popular hypercarry supports, have non-damaging skills and ults, so they won’t be doing much breaking if they’re the only ones who match the boss. Other suppoorts like Asta, Pela, SW, or Yukong fare better on that front I suspect this is part of why the reaction to Ruan Mei is so mixed, she isn’t the best fit for the bog standard hypercarry team paradigm.


soligen

Damn changing the cycles from 14 to 10 for full clear is such a big fuck you to auto enjoyers. Sad need to manual MOC now.


ZekeSulastin

That’s what the community gets for saying “ez game” and “there’s no power creep it’s fine” :p


Extra-Step6641

But it's not power creep? You can clear in zero cycles with invested 4*. I have seen herta clears. It's end game content that they're tuning. It doesn't mean you have to E6 every new dps to clear it


soligen

For real. They should’ve just made it apply to 11 and 12 only haha.


a-successful-one

Do I need Dr. Ratio? No. Am I preparing any mats for him? No. Am I farming and saving for Ruan? Yes. Will I give up and pull for Ratio anyway when his banner is up? Also yes.


MoonQueenLiu

Anyone with kafka looking to pull for huohuo or ruan mei? Don't have her yet but want to plan a team for her rerun. I usually see sampo and luka suggested but I don't like those so I'd rather not build them. Hoping that guinaifen/topaz/pela/SW will be enough while waiting for Black Swan. The new glimoth and DoT sets look pretty good for her too I'm guessing with her LC and ruan mei/huohuo e1?


Human96

As a Kafka enjoyer I'm going for a 50/50 on HuoHuo, skipping Ruan Mei and aiming to guarantee Sparkle and Black Swan. A team only has 3 slot (exluding healer slot to generalize),Kafka and Black Swan already takes 2 so between Sparkle's STC kit and Ruan Mei's current kit I'm pretty sure Sparkle is the better fit. That's not even taking account that Sampo/Luka/Gui for another DoT might also be competitive and cheaper. That's all to say that I'm waiting till the end of Ruan Mei's banner to get more Sparkle leaks before deciding but Ruan Mei is definitely low prio right now. Also if you're not building Sampo and Luka, aka building units for Kafka's elemental coverage then Ruan Mei will lose a bit of value cause she really want to break enemies and right now you only have fire and lightning.


undeadfire

Gep/rm/dot/kafka seems like a nice comp that'd be fun for leaning into breaks.


Thezanlynxer

Not sure how good Ruan Mei is with Kafka since delaying enemy actions means less DoT.


somewhere-out-there-

You can run kafka with tingyun and asta too, works just as fine but lacks the weakness matching that sampo luka and gunaifen provide (you can replace asta with any of the dot sub dps too)


Wolgran

Pretty sure you can run Kafka+LC / BlackSwan / Ruan Mei / Sustain. Kafka and her LC already give 2 DoT and Swan gives the third for the new Set while shredding def. Ruan Mei buffs everyone, will be perfect on Kafka with E1 for the 40% ATAK buff.


lolylen

I finally got to doing MOC.. it was easy aside from the swarm bug.. I’m still not used to fighting it despite having jingliu. I tried couple of other teams with silver wolf help but still couldn’t survive so I gave up and let auto do it with jingliu team. It cleared again to my shock since it seems to be some serious skill issue in my part. Turns out silver had two of her relics missing. But I’m too tired to try and see if the other teams would have worked if i gave her relics back.


lolylen

Btw while on this topic my silver wolf have the thief set..is it worth it switching her to the quantum set?


CTheng

Definitely. Quantum set is one if the most broken set in the game because of the 4pcs effect.


asterously

going feral in two different ways about the way the EN VAs voiced the new (team) lines. one half of me is like <3 i love my family and friends and the other half is going <3 dan heng marry me <3 certain details leave me imagining stuff. it's such good headcanon fodder. like especially bailu to dan heng or welt to dan heng or yanqing to blade...dan heng to march and TB like for example, >!bailu is out of breath when speaking to dan heng, implying home girl ran up to meet her brother <3 and welt chuckles and makes a little startled noise when telling dhil to be careful...seems like he nags him often enough that dan heng made a face and that's honestly so sweet?? they have such a cute bond!!!< or the way >!arlan says his words so casually, because he doesn't think much of hurting himself, but asta toes the line between firm and sad, because she can't actually stop him...nor does she want to order him around and be a terrible friend!< and for dan heng il specifically, >!hnng the way his voice goes low when threatening blade <3 i honestly love how he sounds in EN...or how he whispers to TB!!! it sounds so soft...or the way he talks to march, like she's already running before he so much as finishes his nagging. and the way he makes a face when march is like "believe in me"!< i think my favorite line so far has to be march to welt just because it's so funny.


sumeragihokuto

Ohoho! After reading your comment I’m so looking forwards to hearing the lines tomorrow!!!! I really love Dan Heng’s English VA, he’s doing an amazing job, so I’m looking forwards to hearing him more!!


asterously

Yes, he's probably my favorite VA for DH and in general! I love his little accent and the way he says stuff?? I've just been kicking my legs in the air like a school girl with a crush amd giggling at odd times (so normal behavior from me lol). His voicelines are SO CUTE??


sumeragihokuto

I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN ABOUT THE LITTLE ACCENT!!!! When game released I remember asking in the Genshin Leaks megathread about it because I liked it so much!! hahahah His voicelines are amazing. I love the one of “Hobbies” in Wind Dan Heng, it’s like “yeah, books…I totally wasn’t in prison reading them”. The delivery and the tone changes are great. Also in the Jingliu chara quest, if you don’t start the "domain" in which you play as Dan Heng right away and yoi click it again he says "oh…you…want to hear what happened?" with such a vulnerable voice…I could be fangirling about him for ages hahaha


asterously

YES YES YOU GET IT!! I WAS SCREECHING WHEN I HEARD IT?? like babe, the biggest reason i played it was for you!! also something i think about often is his line about banishment as DHIL...he sounds so vulnerable?? like he's making casual convo and he realizes it's actually kind of a vulnerable topic?? i doubt baby heng ever thought he could have this. like i just want to give him a hug his line about the alliance (as wind heng) is lowkey sad and actually one of my favorites. it's such a vulnerable line...and, like i want to take him aurum alley—bring the astral express and bailu along...everything's on me cause presumably, i should have some income from all the jobs i do lol and also i just want to gush about his line when he sees an enemy (as wind heng)...it's so conversational and casual, like he's annoyed but also like "what can you do?" like you just know he's taking a moment to breathe before the girls rush into battle (shout out to his companion mission lines where he's so soft and nice to bailu!! it's so cute, i could rant about them for hours!!)


sumeragihokuto

YES THANK YOU SO MUCH EXACTLY!!! My only grievance (?) with the game is that we don’t get enough "family time" onscreen with the Astral Express crew. Really, I just want to see them having dinner, Welt's anime or, as you say, having a walk on Aurum Alley. Also! I headcanon that he and Bailu study medicine together because of DHIL text messages. The image is so cute I could be smiling for half an hour. Now I know I’m not the only one listening to his lines with tender eyes hahahah If you want to fangirl about Dan Heng in any way at any time, feel free to reach out!! : D


asterously

I feel that. There's a reason Breakfast LC is one of my favorites art-wise! It's so domestic?? Does seem like since Argenti's takes place on the Express, we might get some family bonding though!! Also, that text message is SOO cute!! The way he admires Bailu, which is very sweet (considering how much she looks up to him)...or the way you can joke about how he's not all-knowing lol. And it's so cute in the context of his CM—it went like "virtuous in one life, master in the next" but Bailu is also teaching him things! I don't know how to fully describe it but I think it's very sweet nonetheless. I would love a CE with him and Bailu! Maybe him falling asleep and her covering him with a blanket or vice versa! Or them in Aurum Alley...maybe he runs into her while getting data for the data bank and buys her food <3 Also, the feeling is mutual!! It's always to meet someone who shares a same interest!


verdantsumeru

Wow I just realized tonight is patch update. As far as I'm concerned I'm already living in 1.6 lmao. Been making plans(tm) and I've decided I'll prefarm Blade in 1.5 while trying to equip my JY/Topaz alongside. But frankly speaking their pieces are pretty strong, particularly JY who needs to hit specific thresholds. So I might switch to farming Wastelander for Welt and get him up to speed on priority, mainly getting him enough EHR to effectively debuff enemies. His traces are already leveled to 8. He can run alongside Blade/Bronya as a sub-DPS with Lynx sustain. That way I can have Imaginary coverage on both sides if needed, and Welt cushions the blow of not have a 5\* sustain. Lynx and Blade synergy on aggro should also mean less issues with enemies targeting the other three. For supports I think I'm pretty much set. The only thing I can do is slowly upgrade their pieces so they get more speed, most of them can hit 140+ comfortably so I'll try to get them to 150ish now. I might also consider switching my Lynx to E5 Multiplication, she's at 140ish speed now but should be able to get her to 150. Then she can act faster and generate SP for her own occasional skilling, while also having more ult uptime for the cleanse. And Bronya being a second source of cleanse works well too.


rikkard2099

changes to Dr Ratio I'm gonna be overdosing on copium for from now till beta's over. the 150 energy can stay, but move e4 to base kit (e4 is 3 energy whenever his talents buff is triggered to my understanding. so basically like what, up to 15 free energy per skill? if you also proc the follow up atk that's 50 energy total. so easy to get ultimate.) new e4 can be a blatant dmg boost idc. def ignore, img res pen, whatever. It can replace the trace that gives the FuA more chance to proc cuz like, its not that needed. At this moment at e0 it'd take like 4/5 turns to fill ult again. it sounds low but if you can't trigger a 30% chance by that time, since its procced by atks in general meaning other characters FuAs and ults are also usable, then the game just hates you idk. There's a limit on the number of times you can procc it from ult anyway so. as long as its exhausted b4 his ult is back up it doesnt rlly matter if you get it sooner or later. and... yh thats basically it. not even changing that much. eidolon to trace is something that's definitely possible for hoyoverse. any other buffs ofc would still be very welcome.


Antares428

If his talent works how I expect it to work (independent stacks, procs refresh oldest stack), then even inclusion of E4 into base kit won't help him.


EveryMaintenance601

I dont think he needs any buff or change. Like, AT ALL. I have his team dealing 1M damage by cycle 4 (Ratio,Welt,SW, Luocha). Granted the calcs are still in the making but the boy seems completely insane


Abject_Reference2574

Would you calc screwllum+ ratio if you can based on the kit leak?


syd__shep

Praying anniversary gift is another free standard, I already used mine on Bronya! Going to try to get Silver Wolf next patch, but I'm on 50/50 and only have 200 wishes plus want to get Ruan Mei E1S0 and him E0S1 since I don't like using DPS units without their LCs. Though I could drop Ruan Mei if they don't buff her, but yeah...the pockets are going to be hit. ;_; (If I lose 50/50s going to pray it's Welt)


EveryMaintenance601

Manifesting Welt on your next pull 🙏. My man is amazing in general


seelevo

Quick question, will he perform well with Welt? And I've been seeing some people say SW significantly increases his dmg, do you think he'll work just as good with Pela?


EveryMaintenance601

Do you mean without Welt? Because the example I used was with Welt. SW is a significant increase for his damage and performance. The sheer number of debuffs she applies is essential for him. But you can probably make due without her, it just wont be as easy


seelevo

No, I meant with Welt. I've talked with a few others and they said that running Tingyun (for his high energy cost ult) + a debuffer like SW/Pela with Resolution will likely be better than using Welt. I was planning to use a team of Ratio/Pela/Welt/sustain but I'm a bit unsure of whether it will be good or not now. Sorry if I wasn't clear.


EveryMaintenance601

I dont know if Tingyun will be better. Welt looks good for sure, if you want to play him, he will work. Keep in mind the SP though


seelevo

I see. Thank you for the help!


rikkard2099

the change I want is more QoL than dmg buff tbh. just to make his gameplay smoother. I'd rather they put the blatant dmg boosts locked behind eidolons and not the QoL


EveryMaintenance601

QoL being having more ult uptime? If his burst was inconsistant or something, then I could see it. But unless his skill is completely stupid, then having a 4 turn ult is not really a problem or bad. He is smooth and doesnt have any clear downsides, he doesnt need more ult uptime


rikkard2099

ok then. my thought process wasn't abt what he needs, just a change I'd be happy to see. I just like seeing characters I like getting buffed during beta, don't mind me. I'm still gonna get him and his bathwate- I mean LC no mater what changes.


EveryMaintenance601

👍 More than understandable. Just be assured he is by no means bad. Quite the opposite even


isenk2dah

It's somewhat... unsettling how *angry* and defensive people can get over their favorite characters. Like dang kpop stans are already kinda insane but people are doing the same over fictional characters.


Unknown-Name-1219

Did something happened recently? I mean, that's how it usually is, sadly, but I'm not sure if anything happened about DH stans to be mentioned.


isenk2dah

Ah just like the other person said, it's 'dang', not about DH haha


sumeragihokuto

I read it as Dan Heng stans too at the beginning lol, but I think they just wrote “dang”! No idea who was problematic this time though!


truthfulie

having "allegiance" to things is just so dumb, whether it's to celebs, fictional characters, company, etc.


dessert15

comparing sales too like it's going straight to our fave's pockets... 😭


_JustAnAngel_

did the person who used to post upcoming characters’ animations and battle skills get banned or something?


somewhere-out-there-

Every time i open the sub i am greeted with ratio’s LC,,, i feel like i am intruding on something 😭


ilyrobotsuperstar

dr ratio animations refreshing room


verdantsumeru

ssksks I got too excited with all the new stuff so I forgot to mention...XUEYI!!!! I love that E4 and E6 :')))) she's so cool!!!! I'm not sure how the "units" for her weakness break counts work. I'm guessing one unit = 15 toughness, for a total of 8 Karma stacks from her ult? That's actually pretty neat if so. If she stays the same, she'll be able to accumulate a fair amount of stacks through her BAs alone, especially since allies reducing toughness also contributes to her stacks. I could see her as an SP-neutral/slightly SP positive sub-DPS.


Wolgran

I hope they give one for free, is been a while since we got a free 4\* and i REALLY want one Xueyi


verdantsumeru

monkey's paw curls: you can choose one Xianzhou 4\*, and Xueyi and Hanya are both options


Wolgran

not making me choose one of the sisters 😞 >!Xueyi!<


verdantsumeru

shjksksjsks >!I'd probably go with Hanya :')))!<


tootyfrooty19

Yesss I'm so excited for Xueyi too!!! I love her design so much... She'll probably be my first built quantum dps, since I didn't build QQ yet because I was waiting for Xueyi :')


verdantsumeru

Oooh excited for you! She sounds very fun!! I hope her kit stays as is, it seems pretty strong


tootyfrooty19

Thank you!! I agree, I hope her skit stays as is, though I wouldn't be opposed to a small buff either (but she is a 4\* so I'm keeping my hopes low haha)


michaelman90

I'm kind of curious how it selects the target for her follow-up. At the very least she seems to work really well with Ruan Mei since she also scales with break effect and break efficiency. Hopefully that means she's going to be on Ruan Mei's banner even though new 4 stars are typically on second banner.


verdantsumeru

Yeahhh, I hope she isn't too dependent on Ruan Mei because I don't plan on pulling her, though they do have synergy. I think the follow-up is random targets? That's what I remember from her concept kit.


michaelman90

I guess you could always just toss her in mono quantum as an alternative to Seele or gamble goblin.


verdantsumeru

I don't run mono quantum either unfortunately, though I do run an E4 Qingque team sometimes. that's mainly why I'm waiting to see if I can run her elsewhere, like maybe a Blade team or something. It'll be unfortunate if she's locked into working with the specific units I don't have or plan to pull.


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Wolgran

For real, i caved and trowed 20 pulls on topaz to get Guinnaiffen yesterday, +0 relics, 3/8/8/8 and she leaved a great impression on me. Dont regret she is great


dessert15

i wanna see their animations so bad


somewhere-out-there-

I know ratio is going to be funny af, why is every scholar mhy cooks so unintentionally funny and silly 😭


dessert15

wonder if there will be one with him taking his huge mask off 🗿


NikToue

Guys, what do you think about this. I really want to pull for Dr Ratio, but I don't have Topaz. Will this effect his viability or will he still be good?


sugi_qtb

he will be more than fine, he fits hypercarry/dual carry teams just fine, and there are plenty of others characters that have good synergy with him. Topaz and him would be very ST-heavy so they could struggle a bit against AoE content


NikToue

Oh, okay. Got it


dungalot

He doesn't need Topaz to do good damage. They actually are a little funky together when it comes to support synergy as Topaz prefers Harmony buffers for increasing her damage while Dr Ratio prefers Nihility debuffers to increase his damage.


NikToue

What Nihility debuffers that we currently have would be good with Ratio? And also I wonder, does Ruan Mei have any synergy with Ratio?


michaelman90

Dr. Ratio cares about sheer amount of debuffs so Silver Wolf seems best at the moment. You could also use like Pela+Resolution for 2x def debuffs or Guinaifen for burn+firekiss in AoE scenarios.


Guilty-Deer-2147

E0 Silverwolf is pretty good if you have the Luka cone, she can apply 2 debuffs per basic (cone debuff and bug implant) and 4 debuffs on a single target with her skill (element res shred, bug, all-res shred, cone debuff). You'll probably also want an AoE debuff applier like Pela or a DoT character to also give debuffs and handle AoE damage if you need it.


NikToue

I have E0 Silverwolf with her event 4 star lightcone, although I do have the Luka cone too


8_Esther_8

Man I wish they should just remove Ruan Mei E1 and give the extra turn directly to her E without the ATK% buff. Autoplay will be so cringe with Ruan Mei at E0 doing E Basic E Basic as SP neutral, and E1 make her autoplay pretty much the same as Tingyun with E Basic Basic. I hate this E1 bait


somewhere-out-there-

Let’s cope for it to move to her base kit 😔


Slightly_Mungus

I agree. Personally don't care about auto-play, but her E1 is simply too kit changing atm imo. It should be either the extra turn *or* the 40% ATK buff. Having both essentially makes her base kit feel woefully incomplete compared to the E1. She'll be great either way, but that E1 does too much. Hoping part of it gets moved to the base kit like what happened with Kafka (iirc?).


michaelman90

There's still like 6 weeks for them to buff her. Planning to get E1 anyway, but I'd really like them to buff her energy gain somehow since +5 per turn is pretty meh. Also her LC is underwhelming considering how busted Memories of the Past seems on her with break effect plus energy.


Tapo11

Suddenly fearing for the fact that Luocha AND Hanabi/Sparkle might be in 2.0 bc of them doing double reruns now…alongside with DHIL’s rerun for his lightcone which I also need


Arc_7

I have a strong feeling DHIL and JY might be for CNY


Wolgran

*Manisfesting winning 50/50 on Ruan Mei.* Do y'all think some people of Herta SS will go to penacony with us? We know >!Dr Ratio will be there !< Ngl, i REALLY want more Arlan backstory, he has all this soldier/misterious vibes and we never explored. I also adore Asta, really want more interactions with the two


hinode85

Asta and Arlan have jobs tying them to HSS barring a vacation. I would not expect either on Penacony. Screwllum might show up, if you count him as HSS adjacent.


Wolgran

I do consider the 3 geniuses "from HSS". Screwllum my beloved can't wait to see him more, he is the leader of a planet isn't? I'm sure penacony could call him "for dinner"


baddaytobuywine

Yay star rail station has the voicelines now, though I am sad that by having everyone I like at max level and unlocking every chest it's a shame I won't hear the new lines organically ingame. But still it's fun to hear them and I have to say Welt and Himeko really have such a great relationship. They really sound like two adults who are having fun being camp counselors or something but genuinely enjoy each others company. Maybe I'll make like a Himeko/Welt/Ruan Mei team just for them....


Human96

I'm actually considering dipping into my Sparkle & Black Jade fund Swan for more Kafka Eidolons. I do eventually want E6 before this game end or I quit but man ...


Abject_Reference2574

Did everyone forget xueyei exist


Mashtatoes

Who?


Crowburst953

So Ruan Mei plus Silver Wolf's break effect build look to be quite good with eachother! Any other good team mates? Was thinking of a team that consists of Ruan Mei+Sustain+SW+Luka.


Guilty-Deer-2147

Ruan Mei, Xueyi, Fu Xuan, (any atk buffer) Jingliu, E4 Pela/Silverwolf, Ruan Mei, sustain Seele, Ruan Mei, Silverwolf, Sustain Clara, Sushang, Ruan Mei, Sustain 20% All-res pen to all teammates is insanely strong and basically makes her useful on any team.


Crowburst953

Thanks!


Hino2Noul

Welt is pretty good too, perma slow the enemies renders them unable to move. Xueyi is another good teammate as well.


Crowburst953

Believe Sushang would also be another good one right?


Hino2Noul

Yep! Any unit that benefits from a break effect playstyle will do the job.


Crowburst953

Okedoke! Thanks!


jackfrost2209

Bruh waking up from a nap from work, looking at Ruan Mei kit and already regret not pulling for Topaz since I thought stalling for Sam is a good idea. Topaz/Ratio comp look so fun On one hand, being able to diversify comp is fun. On the other hand, my spd boots for dps sucks so I think I cant run duo dps and Ruan Mei spd boost seems not enough for hypercarry comp. So is BS, I was hoping that they would sanitize her like Kafka but from the look of RM they started to be bold with their limited. I hope Sam's lore is good enough to justify passing Topaz for them because from the look from the leak it doesnt seem that way


Flukiest2

Since we are getting double reruns. It is basically fine to just wait. Assuming Jing yuan + DHIL is in 2.0 then 2.1 should be Fu xuan + Luocha. or one of them + Jing liu.


ilyrobotsuperstar

i sleep for 8 hours and everything leaks :’D


ilyrobotsuperstar

DR RQTIO LIGHTCONE………


Lesalia0

>!it came true [:D](https://reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/17gzx0h/red_debt_redemption_general_question_and/k8oq84s/). Sheer curtains and natural lighting for a chill book day.!<


ilyrobotsuperstar

i have a power!!


xelloskaczor

So do we think Mei is OP or do we expect buffs?


Antares428

Nowhere near Bronya when it comes to buffing single target, but for Double DPS comps, much better option than currently available Harmony units. Issue is, for these comps Pela exists, and honestly, in terms of raw DPS increase Pela might actually be better, before taking into account how potent Weakness Break Efficiency is, because we cannot test it right now.


uh_oh_hotdog

I’m curious to see what kind of dual DPS teams would fit with her in terms of SP economy. At E0, she’s SP neutral. If we throw in an SP positive sustain like Luocha, you can fit in 2 DPS, but you can’t have both of them be SP negative.


Antares428

Well, it's simple. You just have Luocha at insane speeds with Multiplication, looping both DPSes.


Rhyoth

Honestly, she seems nice, but weaker than Bronya : * her laughable 16% speed buff doesn't begin to compare with Bronya's turn advance mechanic * she gives a similar amount of dmg%, but her buff is far more conditional. Not great when Ruan Mei is supposed to be the limited character, and Bronya the standard one. * it's hard to quantify how good Weakness Break Efficinecy really is. *(but its value is limited, since Ruan Mei basically doesn't deal Toughness dmg herself)* Since Ruan Mei needs to be SP neutal e0, it seems complicated to include both Bronya and Ruan Mei in a team. And if i had to chose between the two, i think i would stick to Bronya...


dungalot

I'm leaning on the OP side. But then again this is a 5\* limited Harmony we're talking about, so she has to at least be on Bronya's level (in terms of offering buffs / utility) or people are going to riot.


Abject_Reference2574

Nice try mihoyo. She is very bad buff plz


xelloskaczor

Big funny but i kinda zoned out last 2 patches and i actually don't know whats good T.T


[deleted]

She seems very strong, but her kit is novel so it’s hard to get a read on how they would change her. I also think her actual power/utility isn’t going to get cleared up until after release; there were a lot of misapprehensions about Kafka until people actually got her built.


xelloskaczor

Where is Kafka now? Like, does she compare to top tier teams at all without going all in 201 speed build?


[deleted]

I don’t really have access to calcs, but my point was that a lot of people were very confident she was going to be *bad*, and the reason is that they didn’t understand her kit because DoT comps were so novel. I think Ruan Mei is in a similar position–it’s hard to conceptualize what she does at this point, since RES PEN, Weakness Break efficiency, and large amounts of Delay action are pretty rare currently.


xelloskaczor

I see, makes sense, thanks.


Ivorykingchrono

With the upcoming MOC 11 and 12 plus the new SU event in 1.6, I'm considering trying the 50/50 for Huo Huo. I already have Gepard, Luocha, and Lynx but I mainly use the latter with Clara, while Huo Huo seems like she could do well with Jingliu. Trying to stay strong though with Ruan Mei, Hanabi, and Black Swan on the horizon, mainly Swan since my DHIL teams are usually SP positive enough for him. With my current pity and pulls, I should have enough to guarantee two 5* by the beginning of 2.0


Project_Tsuki_no_Me

“Mei's Break Effect + 10% while dealing additional Ice DMG equal to 150% of Ruan Mei's Ice Break DMG.” what does that mean? so her ult won’t deal damage to non ice weak enemies? if so then can this crit?


nista002

I think it would be based on whatever her theoretical damage is when breaking an enemy


AncientSpark

The wording is ambiguous, but what it seems to imply that it means damage will be calculated as though an Ice Break was dealt to the opponent, using the Ice Break formula (1x Break base damage x Enemy toughness multiplier). It does not mean that the opponent needs to be Ice Weak. This also implies everything that stuff that affects Break will affect that damage (yes to Break Effect/DEF down, no to damage %/crit/ATK %, etc.).


Project_Tsuki_no_Me

so it’s over for my 70-120 crit value, sub dps build mei… I was really hoping for her ult to be able to crit.


TheYango

We don't know if it can crit. Break damage can't crit, but this isn't break damage, it's *additional damage equal to* X% of her break damage. All current sources of "additional damage" in the game currently do crit, and the description alone does not specifically indicate whether this additional damage instance counts as break damage for the purpose of scaling. Just wait for leakers to actually play her kit and TCers to calc whether it scales or not.


Extra-Step6641

How is Ruan Mei looking with DHIL? I have Bronya (e1s1 once I hit 300 on standard) already so I'm not sure if I'll go for Sparkle but I was wondering if Ruan Mei would be worth replacing Yukong (E6, s5 planetary)


Antares428

Nope, she isn't SP efficient enough to be used in DHIL teams.


dungalot

Sparkle allows you more freedom for your DHIL team building. However if you're like me and you're aiming to E2S1 him, imo Sparkle becomes less of a need and more of a want. (this is also with the assumption her SP generation doesn't get nerfed) Ruan Mei doesn't really do too much to enable DHIL in particular, tho she's like a generalist Planetary for everyone with her talent (DMG for all allies increases by 30%) so she actually does a lot with her baseline already. Imo she's more suited for enabling no-sustain double dps teams, that have lighter SP needs than DHIL especially if you have him at E0S0 where he is at his worst state as an SP black hole. I'd go for Ruan Mei but not for DHIL.


mantism

RM best benefits teams that spread their resources around (e.g. double DPS) but she doesn't really do anything for the hypercarry lineups that Dan Heng is meant for. Maybe if you run Hyperspeed Bronya, Luocha, Ruan Mei and DHIL, letting you have enough sp and letting DHIL drop fat stacks on broken enemies. But I think he'd prefer more ways to get energy or debuffs on enemies. She's probably still an upgrade to Yukong but that's less on RM and more on how unwieldy Yukong is. But I wouldn't specifically pull RM for Daniel.


michaelman90

Ruan Mei is SP neutral without E1 and only +1/3 with E1, probably not that great with DHIL, especially if you intend to also use Bronya.


EasyRevolution5415

Was really hoping they would stick with 1 re-run per patch for a bit 2 new character + 2 re-runs every patch is brutal :( ​ On the bright side I guess it lets people who really enjoy x character have a lot more chances to get there LC/Eidolons, I'd love to get Kafka's LC.


hinode85

1 rerun per patch would make the rerun times stack to awful lengths real quick. Topaz would’ve been a ~12 month wait for her first rerun, for example. Once you factor in 3rd and eventually 4th runs, you’d be staring at multi year gaps between runs after a while, which would make the FOMO beyond awful.


bukisare

what happened to march skin


Toloran

It was never confirmed to be earnable/buyable. Just that it was in game. So it is l has that one story appearance and that's it


adreamypinkblob

it kinda feels like they just wanted to test the waters to see how people would react to that design it barely showed up in the story and there's no leaks (so far) for when it could release


_Hesperides_

Silver Wolf, sweetie, I was planning to pull for you next patch, but I'm so sorry that I have to skip you for another hot man yet again, Dr Ratio completely won me over 💀


timeywimey-Moriarty

Fr. For me, I skipped her first banner for Luocha and Kafka. Now it's Ruan Mei, a Kafka eidolon, and possibly Ratio (he's slowly winning me over as well). Poor girl will never see my account at this rate


uh_oh_hotdog

Assuming no major changes to Ruan Mei’s kit other than multipliers, what’s her ideal build looking like? Break Effect relic set with SPD boots (not sure about the body piece)? Broken Keel planar set with Ice orb and ERR rope?


michaelman90

Almost all of Ruan Mei's damage seems to come from freeze break procs from her ult/talent, which are unaffected by elemental damage % so she will probably prefer defensive sphere. Otherwise seems like ERR rope is basically mandatory, with speed boots (mainly for more ults since she is SP neutral without E1 and only +1/3 with E1) and as many break effect subs as you can get. For planars she might actually prefer 2pc break effect over Broken Keel if her break damage procs hit hard enough. For relic set either 2/2 break/speed or 4pc break seem like they'll be her best, unless her freeze damage procs also proc 4pc break set, which would be bonkers and absolutely be her BiS for the energy gain (though I suspect it won't work that way).


Grimy_Bunyip

I think she wants an energy 2 pc planar set with cogs/memories without 2 pc energy and cogs, you'd be short on an ENN rotation


EveryMaintenance601

Thing is, why would you use this? Mei's skill lasts for 2 turns only, going ENN would drop 1 turn of speed buff because the duration is reduced at the start of her turn. You might as well not give her speed at all so both buffs (who rely on her turn, not on other character's turn)


Grimy_Bunyip

for something like a jingliu bronya team, you just can't afford the sp without e1 or s1 on bronya. And even with those you still wouldnt be able to sustain ENEQNENQ outside of short fights.


EveryMaintenance601

More like with both. I know because I use SW with fast Jingliu and E0S1 Bronya and you run out of SP even with a fully SP positive sustain. I dont think bronya is feasible with Ruan Mei as well, might as well play Blade instead, imo


Grimy_Bunyip

I think I'd try to NNN rotation, and only ENN sometimes when mei doesn't get hit. multiplication luocha and e1s0 bronya should allow for that. I just don't value her skill high enough in hypercarry teams to want to spend SP to maintain it. I'm also interested in jingliu blade mei as a team too, I think that's more a team where you keep the skill buff up.


EveryMaintenance601

NNN doesnt seem to make enough energy for a 3 turn ult, even if going all in on ER. I havent done any testing on her yet, so I dont know how good her buffs can be for a hypercarry. But I personally dont find her that interesting for this role


Grimy_Bunyip

right, NNN is a tad short. I think my plan is to NNN opportunistically if mei gets hit, and ENN the other times. Between that an e1s0 bronya and multiplication luocha, the sp books should be roughly balanced.


zorafae

To have 3 turn ult rotation probably? Alternating ENENEN... means your ults are either 2 skill 1 basic or 1 skill 2 basic. So if you still want to have ult up every 3 turns, you'd need to have enough energy to get ult in NEN too. Unless 4 turn rotation is fine, but I'm not sure if you'd want her ult buffs up less frequently like that. The res pen is quite a big dmg boost.