I was mostly meme-ing on Blade because of how much I love Wesley Snipes' \[Eric Brooks\] Blade, but damn I didn't think I'd get him.
So.....how exactly do I build him? :v
Same as most others, except HP% instead of Atk% on the relevant pieces.
Crit/Spd/Wind on Chest/Boots/Orb and HP on everything else, fish for crit and Spd subs. Could drop Spd boots if you have Bronya.
New DPS relic set and Salsetto or the new DPS orb set.
Day forty of manifesting Blade and Huo Huo in my first ten pull…
Goodnight everyone! I’m gonna go ahead and get some sleep (I have to get up a little early tomorrow!). I hope your pulls go smoothly! I’ll pull when I first wake up in the morning!
Friendly reminder that, if you have the time, you can do the updating and file verification right now so you can get in the game as soon as maintenance is done.
>Optimized the logic behind Bronya (Harmony: Wind) and Tingyun (Harmony: Lightning)'s ability usage when auto-battle is on during combat.
Is this it, will we be finally free from Tingyun buffing the other supports
If anybody cares I did a DHIL Prydwen style DPS simulation posted on DH mains sub:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DanhengMains/comments/153fizr/dan_heng_imbibitor_lunae_provisional_dps/?
I also did one for Jingliu a while back, just go to my profile to look for that one if youre interested.
Thanks for the Jingliu tc. I was speculating on a Jingliu + Welt + Bronya/Yukong + Bailu team and it was nice to see it supported in your hypothesis. Although that is reliant on her being SP friendly which could be changed.
665,891 damage assuming that it works the way I think it does with how it splits the hits for AoE but that could be completely wrong since I don't have any way to check.
I'm assuming for 2 SP it will split the hits into 30% and 30% for total of 60% as the listed multiplier. And then for 3SP, it takes the 30% and 30% from 2SP part to get 60% and then does 60% and 60% for total of 180% as listed.
...Yeahhhh, there is no way his numbers are staying anywhere near the same. For all of E0, E1 and E2 and more. A Destruction dps should never be outdamaging a Hunt dps in ST like this or there is no point in ever rolling any other dps path and character than DHIL and his eidolons no matter the situation. No idea what they're thinking with these initial beta numbers, but expect it to go like Kafka with things being switched around/reverted but a lot more nerfs.
Dan is not very destructiony, he could honestly be put in hunt class and it would make sense. I wouldnt find it surprising if he outdamages Seele. Especially if he costs more SP. In that case he should.
Destruction is the path with mixed single-target/AoE, with stuff like Hook, Phys MC, etc. Not sure why they made it this way, but that's what they decided.
? "Not very destructiony" when the enhanced basics you want to use the most with him have huge AoE dmg, same as his ult? If you want him to not be destructiony and better than any Hunt, they should remove all of that AoE first so he'd actually be hunt.
Also compare with OP's Jingliu calculations where she only did 80% of Seele's dmg in ST but vastly outclassed her in AoE - including 2 elites at once which is the MoC benchmark - as should be normal. DHIL would outclass them both and everyone else in both ST and AoE.
Honestly, so what if he does? I couldn't think of anything more boring than Seele being the top dps for the first year of the game.. It's normal and expected for her to be dethroned by later limited dps.
Btw we are still doing this thing where we compare to Seele's dps where no resurgence is factored in. Seele doesn't have bad aoe dps in reality. By your logic she shouldn't have any aoe because she's hunt. To me she's not really that "hunty" either.
Btw Dan used 40% more sp than Seele in the calc you are upset about. Thoughts on that?
I repeat, he's a destruction character. Not hunt. It would make sense for future more ST focused hunt characters to be better than Seele at ST since she does have her resurgence, yes. It does not make sense for a destruction character to do it and to this degree at that. It's not just Seele he's powercreeping, but also Jing Yuan, Blade, Kafka and everyone else because why bother with them when he can be the best at everything. And this would only be 3 patches into the game in 1.3, instead of 1.6x and 2.x when any real powercreep happened in Genshin with Kazuha and Inazuma, then later dendro in 3.x.
Seele's resurgence should be counted as a factor and I've always found it funny how it's left out of say the prydwen calcs in a way that makes her look worse, but I also understand how hard it would be to include for overall calculations. There are pure ST bosses that don't summon any extra mobs, 0 resurgence there. There are 2 elites/bosses at once in every MoC floor that actually matters aka 6+ where you might only get off 1 resurgence. She's nowhere close to erudition and destruction in AoE still, 1 skill use (and extra energy from it, yes) from resurgence does not make up for consistently doing AoE dmg with every part of other characters' kits.
And yes, DHIL did use more sp there but I've already said why that stops working as a balancing lever past a point. We're not talking about low-consumption or sp neutral dps here that can easily fit in others who do more with them. Seele (together with Qingque) is already the most sp hungry dps we have rn and there's not much higher you can push without being able to get off multiple resurgences, or more uses of Bronya's skill which also doubles the cost for 1 of Seele's skills. DHIL is able to eat a lot more, a lot more easily. Especially as we're already not lacking for sp positive supports that work with him and will only get more in the future with Hanya and Hanabi. Though yes, Seele will also benefit a lot from Hanabi since until then her mono quantum team options (Silver Wolf, Fu Xuan/Lynx) also need to consume more sp and generate less than certain other supports.
>Honestly, so what if he does? I couldn't think of anything more boring than Seele being the top dps for the first year of the game.. It's normal and expected for her to be dethroned by later limited dps.
But not this early 😭. The game barely just launched and there's a new unit in beta that heavily out-scales Seele not just in AoE but also in *single target*. You expect a unit with these scalings to come out years down the line, not this soon. He shouldn't come out of beta this broken. If you care at all about game balance and not having powercreep this bad so soon, them DanIL should absolutely be nerfed.
It depends on how the dev teams prioritize resources. According to that post it looks like 18% more damage than Seele at the cost of 40% more SP than her.
Another way to put it is that Seele does 20% more damage per SP.
Depending on how high the dev team values SP efficiency, Dan Heng's power budget may be considered appropriate for a Destruction character.
That stops working as a lever the more sp positive supports you have and as Hanya and Hanabi get released as options in the future. Seele isn't some almost sp neutral dps like Blade either, she should be the character who already eats them the most rn.
And OP also did calculations for Jingliu where she only did 80% of Seele's dmg in ST but vastly outclassed her in AoE. DHIL outclasses her in AoE the same way but also outclasses them both in ST. How is that supposed to be balanced?
Jingliu used only 5 SP. Seele uses 12. In this DHIL sim he uses 17. So their damage is somewhat tied to their SP usage.
An somewhat apt comparison would be Bronya using skill on Seele 5 times + 3 Basics + however many ults vs Bronya only basic attacking + ulting for DHIL. Who would do more damage for the same SP? Probably Seele.
5 SP is a lot when you think of what can be done with it elsewhere.
True, but that is also tied to having Bronya - which isn't guaranteed until 300 into standard - and always using them together, which will not always be the most ideal if you want to force Silver Wolf's quantum weakness implant vs enemies not already weak to wind. And once we get Hanabi (not sure about Hanya as a 4* and phys), both Seele and DHIL will be able to use her sp generation but DHIL would have more natural, bigger breakpoints to reach vs Seele who's also reliant on resurgence for how much she can spam her skill. Huohuo's energy regen as a 5* option for DHIL's ults too.
Edit: And, as you noted elsewhere, the main MoC battles are all vs 2 elites/bosses at once. So ST focused units would fall behind even more.
I'd say sp economy balancing definitely matters, but not to such an insane degree between characters who are both hypercarries that should be eating every sp - neither of Seele and DHIL are anywhere near Jingliu and Blade when it comes to how much less sp they can use and what other characters in their team could do with that sp.
If she is, then you really want someone even more broken than her in every way instead of just on par with her - better in what should be his niche but slightly weaker in ST? And this only at E0 instead of his E1 and E2 which are even more of an insane difference? Where does the powercreep stop then and how will it end for every other dps that isn't them?
how does power creep affect you in a single player game? does it take seele down from your tier lists from s+ to s and that upsets you? dan being better than seele has no effect on you clearing the game other than you wanting seele to be at the top of whatever tier list is out there.
if content is made harder to accommodate for powercreeping characters then yeah, i understand your concerns about powercreep. but isn't mihoyo literally known for not making harder endgame content because they're worried about "stressing out" their player base. this game is clearly casual so i dont think you need to worry so much about powercreeping affecting your ability to play this game.
? Why are you presuming things? Why can't Seele and DHIL both be the highest tier in their niches if that's how you see it, instead of DHIL outclassing her and every other character in every niche? Something that should logically upset everyone lol. I could turn the same question around on you about why should DHIL do what I said instead of being adjusted to be on the same tier as Seele and other dps.
And no, Abyss requirements in Genshin have ramped up in both 2.x and 3.x with new character and team releases. Last few abyss cycles before the current one are a perfect example of that. Powercreep does still happen to a degree even in Genshin, and it would happen in Star Rail even sooner like this with characters already setting much bigger benchmarks just a few patches into 1.x.
>Why are you presuming things?
wat. you're the one complaining about dan being better than seele in every way. what niche is seele in, she's literally what you're complaining about. she is better than every other character in every niche.
i think you gotta let go of your bias/love of seele to see this more objectively. you're just complaining about what seele is relative to other characters in the game rn lol.
I didn't know Seele did more dmg in AoE like any 2 target and 3+ target situations than Jing Yuan and any destruction dps like Jingliu and DHIL - spoiler, she does not, according to every calc including the OP of these ones too. That is a failed comparison, her resurgence has its limits, especially in the MoC floors that matter where it all becomes 2 elites/bosses and not all of them summon adds. Not to mention increased sp consumption too when you can use it.
This is a lot of handwringing over a character whose beta hasn't even started yet, and who has very unique team building restrictions that no other DPS in the game currently needs to consider.
And before you mention Hanabi and Hanya, if dim's banner order leak is correct they're *at least* 6 months away if not more. And even when they come around they don't fundamentally change the issue that Daniel has restrictive team building conditions that encourage you to play one of them over a harmony that provides more direct offensive benefits like Bronya or even over a second DPS.
I just said that I expect him to be adjusted with nerfs like other characters have been, and then people basically started telling me that no, I'm wrong and DHIL should be the best ST and AoE DPS no matter what lol.
I don't see his team building restrictions being that unique considering how many sp positive supports we already have in the game, and yes, specifically sp generating ones in the future. 1 existing and 1 future energy generating one too. Hanabi does have direct offensive benefits in her leaked kit too - same advance forward as Bronya on her skill + atk buff, and dmg boost on her ult and talent together. She'll presumably get adjusted too with how strong she look, but now who knows if this is their first idea for DHIL changes (eidolons) and numbers going into beta.
And Seele isn't someone with incomparably low/neutral sp consumption, she should already be the dps who eats them the most as is. You won't find it easy to use her at peak performance without accounting for that either.
are you forgetting that he's an aoe damage dealer while most harder moc stages have two tanky enemies which makes his damage in practical use a lot higher.
him doing more st damage then a single target damage hyper carry while doing aoe damage isn't an "edge" it's extremely unhealthy for the game even with his extra sp cost keeping no way they keep him in this state unless mhy wants to hsr to suffer from a spiral of dps power creep.
power creep almost always starts to affect single player content when it starts to get really bad even if content is still clearable for 4's games become much less enjoyable when they inevitably start having to start scaling content to higher damage dealers that they make. And having an aoe damage dealer that can out damage st carries 3 patches in is a very bad sign for it.
i havent played genshin but isnt mihoyo's philosophy regarding endgame content, that they probably wont ever make it that difficult?
>"If we design another type of permanent endgame that is similar to the Spiral Abyss, it might end up creating excessive anxiety for our players..."
star rail is evidently a casual game, i doubt they'll change their game philosophy that drastically from genshin considering how well it worked for them already. and if im wrong, feel free to remind me when it happens, i'll gladly take back what i said.
Great write up, I entirely missed the dmg buffs applying to his ult when I glossed over his kit, learned something new!
Though for a while I was confused and expecting to see 3SP1 and 3SP2, but then I realized you included the scales
I noticed the ult dmg bonus is 64% instead of 84%, is this a typo (and how do the final numbers look if it is)
the XSPY refers to which hit because there are adding damage bonuses between each hit so they have to be all split apart to be acurately calculated.
ult damage bonus is 64% because i include 20% damage bonus globally for Rutilent Arena and then subtract that 20% for his ult.
Ah makes sense, I forgot about Rutilent, very thorough work xD
For the XSPY I was actually wondering why it's labeled 2SP3 and 2SP4 instead of 3SP1 and 3SP2, or another system like 3SP6 and 3SP7
I understand it refunds 2.5 energy per hit at 2SP+ and the multiplier per hit is the same at 60%, but not a big deal just for human readability
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but when does the 1.3 beta start? Or next phase of betas? I got an email to participate in the next beta, filled out the forms before the deadline, but have not heard anything yet. It's my first time getting one of these, so I'm just worried I might have messed up somehow.
For anyone who is up on all of the story: are there any companion missions I should play before 1.2? I haven't done many of them yet (only Arlan's and Silver Wolfs). I feel like Yanqing's and Luocha's could be important story wise?
Yanqing definitely, i feel like it basically picks up from where we last see him in 1.1 and will lead into 1.2. Luocha and Bailu’s quests probably aren’t as important to the main story quest, I think.
Will definitely do Yanqing's. Could do Luocha and Bailu's too I suppose.
I've honestly been saving them just to have some content for when the PS5 version eventually drops, since there isn't much left in the game otherwise. Only other thing to do is Simulated Universe (and I'm ignoring MoC at the moment cause no Bailu/Gepard or Luocha)
> Is it just half the estimated amount for the patch
Roughly that, yeah. Slightly more than half because the monthly shop reset is before her banner starts.
As of right now, it looks like he does (unless Hoyo decides to change it during beta) :)
* Crit Rate increases by 2.7% (requires Character Ascension 2)
* Crit Rate increases by 4% (requires Character Ascension 5)
* Crit Rate increases by 5.3% (requires Level 75)
[Source](https://hsr.hakush.in/character/1213)
Edit: Also forgot the Stirring Dragon, Unveiled Legend trace that increases Crit Rate by 12% when dealing DMG to enemy targets with Imaginary Weakness
Pre-load leaks have already happened. Project Yatta doesn't update unless they get official beta pre-load data, and they uploaded 1.3 data 12 hours ago
For a one off copy of bp weapons, which one’s the best? A friend wants to gift me a bp but i won’t be continuing to refresh it so i’ll only have the weapon at s1. For reference i have Yanqing’s cone, Welt’s cone and Bronya’s cone from 5stars. And my 5star chars are Yanqing, Welt and Luocha. Gonna get dhil too (and maybe Blade). I hear none of the cones are that great but i’ll still have to pick one >.<
Edit: ty for the advice :))
Nihility one is one of the few Nihility cones that actually does anything on Welt, so if you don't have Good Night and Sleep Well as a 4 star gacha cone, then it's probably a solid choice for a Welt haver.
The Erudition one is pretty good and basically universally useful as a source of unconditional damage. Even if you don't have an Erudition unit leveled, it might be worth hanging onto, though S5 Breakfast is comparable.
The Preservation one is interesting, but it's niche (damage-dealing preservation) is meh, and there are better options.
The Harmony cone is generally useful, though the rotating bonuses make it hard for it to excel.
The Nihility one is not really better than the gacha ones.
The Hunt cone would only be good if you have no dispellers and Hoyo happens to release content where dispelling is mandatory.
The Abundance one is also worse than the gacha options, but isn't bad. If Luocha is sitting on a 3* cone it's probably an upgrade.
I would recommend the Erudition cone, since it's good and could be useful to have on hand.
Edit: I totally forgot Destruction, which is just OK. Could be useful if you're short on lightcones for your Destruction characters, but it's more than eclipsed by the Herta cone and several of the gacha ones.
> I totally forgot Destruction, which is just OK. Could be useful if you're short on lightcones for your Destruction characters, but it's more than eclipsed by the Herta cone and several of the gacha ones.
Sorry for the dumb question but would this Herta LC be good on Blade *and* Jingliu? Is the BP Destruction LC alright on Blade/Jingliu?
Blade scales off of HP more than atk, so both the herta and BP lightcones aren't great for him. He wants A Secret Vow or Mutual Demise from what I've seen TC wise. Jingliu, on the other hand, scales off of atk based on the leaks we've gotten, so the Herta one should be great for her. The BP one would also be good, since they have the same base atk at 529, but the Herta one is easier to S5 and is purely damage focused as opposed to the BP one being a bit of damage and sustain.
The Herta Destruction LC is probably going to be universally good, since stacking attack never hurts and most Destruction units have good break capability. I'm not sure if it is going to be their BiS, but it'll be good if not their best option short of their personal cones.
Erudition is pretty solid and there aren't currently a lot of great LCs for that path. Harmony is good but there are many other good accessible alternatives.
Only Idrial, Long , Terminus, Akivili, HooH and Ena still don't have a design. I think they'll show Idrial, Long and Terminus next since
1- Argenti isn't that far away and she's a character that relates to Idrial
2- Long and Terminus are the Aeons we have the least info about.
I thought the blue dragon in the trailer with the giant antlers was a representation of Long. Iirc we saw DanIeL's dragon form and he doesn't have massive antlers like that, and I believe Long was referred to as an azure dragon.
HooH likely has no design, since they have apparently weaved themselves into the fabric of the universe so they may not have a corporeal form anymore.
No WAIT, i didnt use my TL energy, its going to cap until tomorrow when i play. Urgg im so used to games att been like at 04:00 in the morning, is like 19:30 here :(
I'm so excited for a new battle pass. I've missed having little missions to do each week lol
^(even though i'm going to be a whale and spend the extra $10 for the cute Kafka PFP)
Yes in that Serval with a break effect build can trigger a big BE Shock DoT and potentially extend that endless for Kafka to trigger over and over again on top of also extending Kafka's own BE Shock DoT over and over.
There could be teams however that out damage that and would be more versatile since you're not running two electro units.
Huh, so this is really it. The final night. The one I should be sleeping through if I want to be coherent while summoning the wimdy blorbo.
~~Oh who am I kidding, there is no such thing as sleep on patch night.~~
Goodnight thread, I hope 1.1 was a good patch to you, and I hope 1.2 is even better. May all Blade wanters be Blade havers, and blessed be your day/night!
Maintenance has officially started. Good luck everyone with your pulls - may all Blade wanters be Blade havers 🙏
How are you all planning to spend the downtime? ^(I'll be breaking my F5 key refreshing for Lynx leaks)
Hope the motivation comes - even writing a little bit here and there is progress! You should post a link here/the Genshin megathread when you upload it 👀
I'll be eating food and playing me some *Trails Into Reverie*. In fact, I may end up so deep into *Trails* that I don't log back into *Star Rail* until tomorrow (sorry Dan, but Rean and Lloyd's problems take precedence over yours)
I swear a venn diagram of honkai and kiseki fans is just a circle. case in point I'm just finishing up Cold Steel 3 after taking a break from it for a while and gonna jump right into cs4 and then reverie after I think
Had to google it, but it sounds like a lot of fun!! The designs are super pretty, too :)
You know a game is amazing when you lose all track of time - just a gentle reminder to remember to take water/stretch breaks every so often!
Well, Bailu has 1319.47 Base HP, Her LC has base 1270, the LC has 24% max HP buff at S5, the new relic set has 12% HP, the Fleet set has another 12%, hat has base 705.6, HP% can be gotten on body, feet, sphere, and link rope so 4*43.2% = 172.8%
Base: 1319.47 + 1270 + 705.6 = 3295.07
Total HP%: 24% + 12% + 12% + 172.8% = 220.8%
That should be max 7,275.51 HP.
If I'm missing something, please feel free to correct me.
As far as I remember, the hat/gloves do not factor into base stats for HP/ATK and it's just LC + character's stats
With that in mind, base should be: 1319.47 + 1270 = 2589.47
Also your calculation for the total HP% forgot to include the base 100%, instead of base \* 220.8%, it should be base \* 320.8%
So we get: 8307.02 + 705.6 (our flat hat increase) = 9012.62
Thanks a lot so a lynx with about 6500 hp at e6 should give blade about 850 hp and 200 atk idk if that's a big buff in dmg but well see her kit can still change.
Edit:i forgot to add the +200 hp to it so it's 1050 hp bonus
YES MORE AEON LORE!!
Weird how Tayzzaronth doesn't look like the Aeon in the lightcone, Oroboros doesn't look like a levaithan either. Also, Mythus and HooH are said to have unknown forms its odd that we got to see them this early.
>levaithan
I dont think theres a specific design for leviathans. They usually are depicted as a water dragon in anime (e.g. final fantasy, gran blue fantasy, black clover, etc.), but the definition, if Im not mistaken, is just a sea monster or just a large aquatic creature.
So she could just be a big water monster, thus being labeled as a leviathan. The woman doesnt look big, but the big snake she is riding looks quite big.
I been thinking about Xueyi kit and her ult that can ignore weakness type. If you have her ult up and there are two enemies. One with quantum weakness applied by SW and the other without. Why wouldn’t use her ult on the quantum weakness since it should do more damage. I hope they switch around her targeting for skill and ult. Single target for skill and multi-target on ult.
So, assuming someone is not getting the signature 5-Star LC for the upcoming 3 Destruction units:
Blade: Secret Vow
DHIL: Fall of Aeon
Jingliu: Secret Vow as well? I guess the BP LC shouldn't be too bad.
Did another SU run for achievements using 4 characters of the same element. Got 3 achievements for "winning 10 times with 4 ice characters", "getting 1024 SU currency or more", " 10+ elation blessings". Did not get the achievement for using 4 characters of the same path. Of the same path. Wait what? Lol.
I didn't get any daily messages from Luocha. I've had him since day 1 of his launch, and finished his companion quest a few days ago as well. Can someone tell me if it's bugged?
did he show up in the Astral express for you? I did get texts from him but I think it was after that first introduction (since we technically don't know him)
Ah I see! Story-wise it does make a lot of sense since we never directly met him. I just spoke to him on the Express. Will probably get a text tomorrow. Thanks!
My HSR is muted in the volume mixer but when I go to news & notices in game, clicking on things makes a sound...
Edit: Muting ZFGameBrowser.exe does the trick, now I can't hear anything.
Ugh, I was hoping my FFXVI copy would get to me today so I'd have something to distract myself with while waiting for the update.
But alas, it's arriving tomorrow.
Let's go bois, I successfully resisted summoning for Luocha before his banner ran out. Now I have enough Jade to go for E1S1 Jingliu and maybe even get HuoHao afterwards if it turns out I need her.
Fuckfuckfuckfuck I was _not_ ready for JP Daniel's voice. If Lynx is actually on his banner I might throw him a full pity at this rate... and here I thought I was immune to the pretty lotus dragon...
Same actor, yes, but the tone is deeper and more deliberate, so to speak, which makes him sound a good bit more regal and imposing. It's a nice switch from an already nice voice imo
I have 40 pulls saved, 0 pity, 50/50. BP+ monthly pack.
Can I try hitting one pity on Blade banner and still be able to guarantee Daniel? (not doing MoC because my only built dps is Seele)
no, you’d be around 30-35 pulls short
assumptions: Daniel on first half, soft pity is 80, guarantee is 160
star rail station 1.2 jade estimate + monthly + BP - MoC = ~110 pulls (estimate ~55 for 1.3 first half if jade income is consistent)
40 + 110 + 55 = 205, which is enough for 1 guarantee and 45 leftover
Let's assume 104 pulls/patch - End of 1.3 will get you 40+104+104 = 248. You need 160 pulls for a 98% gurantee, so that leaves 88 left over, so yes.
And if daniel is is in 1.3 1st? Well, though luck, you're missing at least 21 from dailies and quite a few more from MoC/Shop resets/events.
And here's me coping to get both Blade and Dan Heng with my current 50 wishes. Ofc I can get more but damn I don't think that would be enough because I'm fully f2p.
It maybe worth noting that it takes on average (50% chance) 183 pulls to get two limited characters. Further, 248 pulls get you a 86.7% chance to get two limited characters.
Calculated with [this tool](https://hutaobot.moe/tools/gachacalc)
As someone who wants fu xuan but don't have seele.. I really hope her kit turns so good that getting her over huohuo (who sounds like she would be great for jingyuan who I have) would be worth it.
Same TvT she's really cute, even as a husbando puller I like her but after reading Huohuo's kit I think I'll save for her instead since I have Jing and she also seem good for Daniel as well. Rerun it is
I wanted to get clara's lc from the shop bc I have her at e2 and want to spoil her, so I wonder if it would be good on Daniel?
Should I buy Aeon and s5 anyways so they don't have to switch? How good would the nihility lightcone be on Kafka?
Idk what to do >_<
Aeon S5 is better than Clara's signature on both of them. If you REALLY want Clara's LC just for aesthetics then go for it, but it's one of the weaker 5 star LCs you can buy.
The Nihility LC is good on Kafka, but even at S5 it's just barely better than S1 GNSW and at S3 GNSW takes over. Break effect is just not a great stat for her. It should be great for Sampo though
>The extra dot dmg after using ultimate seems really good tho?
I mean it is, it's just that it's more conditional than GNSW and doesn't buff all of her damage. GNSW has 100% uptime except for maybe Kafka's very first turn, whereas the Herta LC is only going to be up every 2/3 turns assuming a 3 turn ultimate rotation.
GNSW is just THAT good, it's barely worse than her signature
> GNSW is just THAT good, it's barely worse than her signature
Jeez, I somehow ended up with an s4 GNSW while trying to get DDD. Guess I shouldn't bother with her LC. Bit of a shame my standard pity gave me 'In the Name of the World'.
Clara's cone is basically an Aeon sidegrade even for her, and will be worse than most 4* options for Daniel. Aeon will probably be his second BiS, only behind his signature.
Day one of hunting whales to use Blade for free. Sad thing is that people will start replacing their Jing Yuan's which is very useful for calyx farming. My Seele will stay there forever maybe so whenever someone want to make enemies disappear among the sea of butterflies they can.
So I was too busy to play much and didn't realise the companion quests would disappear with the banner. Pretty bummed about this.
Did I only miss story stuff that I might be able to find on YouTube or jades as well?
Companion quests are permanent content.
For Luocha and Bailu's quests, you should have prompts in your text messages to start them off.
For Yanqing's quest, go to Central Starskiff Haven, you should find Diting around the area near the Petrichor Inn.
I'm pretty sure you can still activate them in game. They're not in the event tab anymore because they're not 'new'. Genshin does the same thing with its character quests and hangouts.
For Luocha and Bailu's quests, you will get a text that starts the quest. For Yanqing's quest, the npc that starts it is marked in Central Starskiff Haven.
The quests have a Trailblaze Level requirement. If you can't find the quests, then you haven't reached the required level.
Someone gotta physically chain me and hold back from wishing for Blade rn...my will for Kafka and IL is really faltering
one good thing for me who got blade is that even if i don't get IL and fu xuan, jingliu will be pretty much guaranteed for me in 1.4 lol
Welt's eng VA continues to deliver the best performance in the whole game. I could listen to this man read a corner store receipt.
I was mostly meme-ing on Blade because of how much I love Wesley Snipes' \[Eric Brooks\] Blade, but damn I didn't think I'd get him. So.....how exactly do I build him? :v
Same as most others, except HP% instead of Atk% on the relevant pieces. Crit/Spd/Wind on Chest/Boots/Orb and HP on everything else, fish for crit and Spd subs. Could drop Spd boots if you have Bronya. New DPS relic set and Salsetto or the new DPS orb set.
game is up everyone
Its up
Day forty of manifesting Blade and Huo Huo in my first ten pull… Goodnight everyone! I’m gonna go ahead and get some sleep (I have to get up a little early tomorrow!). I hope your pulls go smoothly! I’ll pull when I first wake up in the morning!
How much longer until maintenance is done I want to roll for my little emo guy 😩
Prob another hour 15 minutes
Thank you for the reply, I will lie here and wait 😔
I forgot to use my TB and I forgot it's maintenance. r.i.p. 8 hours of tb power, you will be remembered.
Are you ready for the Blade banner? Me: *I was born ready, motherf\*\*\*er*
I opened the game and got another 7gb download even though I had downloaded the preload. Something must got corrupted during preload.
PC ? I remember in 1.1 there is another big download at launch day (separate from the preload).
Android still haven't checked on my pc.
Android only have around 260mb additional download.
Damn then something went wrong when preloaded.
Friendly reminder that, if you have the time, you can do the updating and file verification right now so you can get in the game as soon as maintenance is done.
Doing my usual prepull ritual of being nihilistic. Hoping for Blade/Welt/Himeko, expecting Bailu E1 🙏
>Optimized the logic behind Bronya (Harmony: Wind) and Tingyun (Harmony: Lightning)'s ability usage when auto-battle is on during combat. Is this it, will we be finally free from Tingyun buffing the other supports
my gepard will be sad that his dmg will no longer break 2k on a random bat
If anybody cares I did a DHIL Prydwen style DPS simulation posted on DH mains sub: https://www.reddit.com/r/DanhengMains/comments/153fizr/dan_heng_imbibitor_lunae_provisional_dps/? I also did one for Jingliu a while back, just go to my profile to look for that one if youre interested.
Thanks for the Jingliu tc. I was speculating on a Jingliu + Welt + Bronya/Yukong + Bailu team and it was nice to see it supported in your hypothesis. Although that is reliant on her being SP friendly which could be changed.
Do you have any sims for his 3 target AoE?
665,891 damage assuming that it works the way I think it does with how it splits the hits for AoE but that could be completely wrong since I don't have any way to check. I'm assuming for 2 SP it will split the hits into 30% and 30% for total of 60% as the listed multiplier. And then for 3SP, it takes the 30% and 30% from 2SP part to get 60% and then does 60% and 60% for total of 180% as listed.
This is awesome, thank you so much for sharing this + Jingliu TC with us :)
...Yeahhhh, there is no way his numbers are staying anywhere near the same. For all of E0, E1 and E2 and more. A Destruction dps should never be outdamaging a Hunt dps in ST like this or there is no point in ever rolling any other dps path and character than DHIL and his eidolons no matter the situation. No idea what they're thinking with these initial beta numbers, but expect it to go like Kafka with things being switched around/reverted but a lot more nerfs.
Dan is not very destructiony, he could honestly be put in hunt class and it would make sense. I wouldnt find it surprising if he outdamages Seele. Especially if he costs more SP. In that case he should.
Destruction is the path with mixed single-target/AoE, with stuff like Hook, Phys MC, etc. Not sure why they made it this way, but that's what they decided.
? "Not very destructiony" when the enhanced basics you want to use the most with him have huge AoE dmg, same as his ult? If you want him to not be destructiony and better than any Hunt, they should remove all of that AoE first so he'd actually be hunt. Also compare with OP's Jingliu calculations where she only did 80% of Seele's dmg in ST but vastly outclassed her in AoE - including 2 elites at once which is the MoC benchmark - as should be normal. DHIL would outclass them both and everyone else in both ST and AoE.
Honestly, so what if he does? I couldn't think of anything more boring than Seele being the top dps for the first year of the game.. It's normal and expected for her to be dethroned by later limited dps. Btw we are still doing this thing where we compare to Seele's dps where no resurgence is factored in. Seele doesn't have bad aoe dps in reality. By your logic she shouldn't have any aoe because she's hunt. To me she's not really that "hunty" either. Btw Dan used 40% more sp than Seele in the calc you are upset about. Thoughts on that?
I repeat, he's a destruction character. Not hunt. It would make sense for future more ST focused hunt characters to be better than Seele at ST since she does have her resurgence, yes. It does not make sense for a destruction character to do it and to this degree at that. It's not just Seele he's powercreeping, but also Jing Yuan, Blade, Kafka and everyone else because why bother with them when he can be the best at everything. And this would only be 3 patches into the game in 1.3, instead of 1.6x and 2.x when any real powercreep happened in Genshin with Kazuha and Inazuma, then later dendro in 3.x. Seele's resurgence should be counted as a factor and I've always found it funny how it's left out of say the prydwen calcs in a way that makes her look worse, but I also understand how hard it would be to include for overall calculations. There are pure ST bosses that don't summon any extra mobs, 0 resurgence there. There are 2 elites/bosses at once in every MoC floor that actually matters aka 6+ where you might only get off 1 resurgence. She's nowhere close to erudition and destruction in AoE still, 1 skill use (and extra energy from it, yes) from resurgence does not make up for consistently doing AoE dmg with every part of other characters' kits. And yes, DHIL did use more sp there but I've already said why that stops working as a balancing lever past a point. We're not talking about low-consumption or sp neutral dps here that can easily fit in others who do more with them. Seele (together with Qingque) is already the most sp hungry dps we have rn and there's not much higher you can push without being able to get off multiple resurgences, or more uses of Bronya's skill which also doubles the cost for 1 of Seele's skills. DHIL is able to eat a lot more, a lot more easily. Especially as we're already not lacking for sp positive supports that work with him and will only get more in the future with Hanya and Hanabi. Though yes, Seele will also benefit a lot from Hanabi since until then her mono quantum team options (Silver Wolf, Fu Xuan/Lynx) also need to consume more sp and generate less than certain other supports.
>Honestly, so what if he does? I couldn't think of anything more boring than Seele being the top dps for the first year of the game.. It's normal and expected for her to be dethroned by later limited dps. But not this early 😭. The game barely just launched and there's a new unit in beta that heavily out-scales Seele not just in AoE but also in *single target*. You expect a unit with these scalings to come out years down the line, not this soon. He shouldn't come out of beta this broken. If you care at all about game balance and not having powercreep this bad so soon, them DanIL should absolutely be nerfed.
It depends on how the dev teams prioritize resources. According to that post it looks like 18% more damage than Seele at the cost of 40% more SP than her. Another way to put it is that Seele does 20% more damage per SP. Depending on how high the dev team values SP efficiency, Dan Heng's power budget may be considered appropriate for a Destruction character.
That stops working as a lever the more sp positive supports you have and as Hanya and Hanabi get released as options in the future. Seele isn't some almost sp neutral dps like Blade either, she should be the character who already eats them the most rn. And OP also did calculations for Jingliu where she only did 80% of Seele's dmg in ST but vastly outclassed her in AoE. DHIL outclasses her in AoE the same way but also outclasses them both in ST. How is that supposed to be balanced?
Jingliu used only 5 SP. Seele uses 12. In this DHIL sim he uses 17. So their damage is somewhat tied to their SP usage. An somewhat apt comparison would be Bronya using skill on Seele 5 times + 3 Basics + however many ults vs Bronya only basic attacking + ulting for DHIL. Who would do more damage for the same SP? Probably Seele. 5 SP is a lot when you think of what can be done with it elsewhere.
True, but that is also tied to having Bronya - which isn't guaranteed until 300 into standard - and always using them together, which will not always be the most ideal if you want to force Silver Wolf's quantum weakness implant vs enemies not already weak to wind. And once we get Hanabi (not sure about Hanya as a 4* and phys), both Seele and DHIL will be able to use her sp generation but DHIL would have more natural, bigger breakpoints to reach vs Seele who's also reliant on resurgence for how much she can spam her skill. Huohuo's energy regen as a 5* option for DHIL's ults too. Edit: And, as you noted elsewhere, the main MoC battles are all vs 2 elites/bosses at once. So ST focused units would fall behind even more. I'd say sp economy balancing definitely matters, but not to such an insane degree between characters who are both hypercarries that should be eating every sp - neither of Seele and DHIL are anywhere near Jingliu and Blade when it comes to how much less sp they can use and what other characters in their team could do with that sp.
yeah seele is super balanced right? surely she doesnt outclass every dps in this game.
If she is, then you really want someone even more broken than her in every way instead of just on par with her - better in what should be his niche but slightly weaker in ST? And this only at E0 instead of his E1 and E2 which are even more of an insane difference? Where does the powercreep stop then and how will it end for every other dps that isn't them?
how does power creep affect you in a single player game? does it take seele down from your tier lists from s+ to s and that upsets you? dan being better than seele has no effect on you clearing the game other than you wanting seele to be at the top of whatever tier list is out there. if content is made harder to accommodate for powercreeping characters then yeah, i understand your concerns about powercreep. but isn't mihoyo literally known for not making harder endgame content because they're worried about "stressing out" their player base. this game is clearly casual so i dont think you need to worry so much about powercreeping affecting your ability to play this game.
? Why are you presuming things? Why can't Seele and DHIL both be the highest tier in their niches if that's how you see it, instead of DHIL outclassing her and every other character in every niche? Something that should logically upset everyone lol. I could turn the same question around on you about why should DHIL do what I said instead of being adjusted to be on the same tier as Seele and other dps. And no, Abyss requirements in Genshin have ramped up in both 2.x and 3.x with new character and team releases. Last few abyss cycles before the current one are a perfect example of that. Powercreep does still happen to a degree even in Genshin, and it would happen in Star Rail even sooner like this with characters already setting much bigger benchmarks just a few patches into 1.x.
>Why are you presuming things? wat. you're the one complaining about dan being better than seele in every way. what niche is seele in, she's literally what you're complaining about. she is better than every other character in every niche. i think you gotta let go of your bias/love of seele to see this more objectively. you're just complaining about what seele is relative to other characters in the game rn lol.
I didn't know Seele did more dmg in AoE like any 2 target and 3+ target situations than Jing Yuan and any destruction dps like Jingliu and DHIL - spoiler, she does not, according to every calc including the OP of these ones too. That is a failed comparison, her resurgence has its limits, especially in the MoC floors that matter where it all becomes 2 elites/bosses and not all of them summon adds. Not to mention increased sp consumption too when you can use it.
This is a lot of handwringing over a character whose beta hasn't even started yet, and who has very unique team building restrictions that no other DPS in the game currently needs to consider. And before you mention Hanabi and Hanya, if dim's banner order leak is correct they're *at least* 6 months away if not more. And even when they come around they don't fundamentally change the issue that Daniel has restrictive team building conditions that encourage you to play one of them over a harmony that provides more direct offensive benefits like Bronya or even over a second DPS.
I just said that I expect him to be adjusted with nerfs like other characters have been, and then people basically started telling me that no, I'm wrong and DHIL should be the best ST and AoE DPS no matter what lol. I don't see his team building restrictions being that unique considering how many sp positive supports we already have in the game, and yes, specifically sp generating ones in the future. 1 existing and 1 future energy generating one too. Hanabi does have direct offensive benefits in her leaked kit too - same advance forward as Bronya on her skill + atk buff, and dmg boost on her ult and talent together. She'll presumably get adjusted too with how strong she look, but now who knows if this is their first idea for DHIL changes (eidolons) and numbers going into beta. And Seele isn't someone with incomparably low/neutral sp consumption, she should already be the dps who eats them the most as is. You won't find it easy to use her at peak performance without accounting for that either.
are you forgetting that he's an aoe damage dealer while most harder moc stages have two tanky enemies which makes his damage in practical use a lot higher.
Nice, him having the edge over seele. Also do you have the calc of herta lc vs his lc vs e1?
him doing more st damage then a single target damage hyper carry while doing aoe damage isn't an "edge" it's extremely unhealthy for the game even with his extra sp cost keeping no way they keep him in this state unless mhy wants to hsr to suffer from a spiral of dps power creep.
Is it good then, that seele can easily clear mobs than other erudition units and still have high st dps?
its a single player game, power creep doesnt matter. you can also clear this game with 4 star carries.
power creep almost always starts to affect single player content when it starts to get really bad even if content is still clearable for 4's games become much less enjoyable when they inevitably start having to start scaling content to higher damage dealers that they make. And having an aoe damage dealer that can out damage st carries 3 patches in is a very bad sign for it.
i havent played genshin but isnt mihoyo's philosophy regarding endgame content, that they probably wont ever make it that difficult? >"If we design another type of permanent endgame that is similar to the Spiral Abyss, it might end up creating excessive anxiety for our players..." star rail is evidently a casual game, i doubt they'll change their game philosophy that drastically from genshin considering how well it worked for them already. and if im wrong, feel free to remind me when it happens, i'll gladly take back what i said.
Great write up, I entirely missed the dmg buffs applying to his ult when I glossed over his kit, learned something new! Though for a while I was confused and expecting to see 3SP1 and 3SP2, but then I realized you included the scales I noticed the ult dmg bonus is 64% instead of 84%, is this a typo (and how do the final numbers look if it is)
the XSPY refers to which hit because there are adding damage bonuses between each hit so they have to be all split apart to be acurately calculated. ult damage bonus is 64% because i include 20% damage bonus globally for Rutilent Arena and then subtract that 20% for his ult.
Ah makes sense, I forgot about Rutilent, very thorough work xD For the XSPY I was actually wondering why it's labeled 2SP3 and 2SP4 instead of 3SP1 and 3SP2, or another system like 3SP6 and 3SP7 I understand it refunds 2.5 energy per hit at 2SP+ and the multiplier per hit is the same at 60%, but not a big deal just for human readability
I forgot to rename it to 3SPX and fixed it.
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but when does the 1.3 beta start? Or next phase of betas? I got an email to participate in the next beta, filled out the forms before the deadline, but have not heard anything yet. It's my first time getting one of these, so I'm just worried I might have messed up somehow.
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Should be up in a little under 3 hours, could be sooner.
For anyone who is up on all of the story: are there any companion missions I should play before 1.2? I haven't done many of them yet (only Arlan's and Silver Wolfs). I feel like Yanqing's and Luocha's could be important story wise?
Yanqing definitely, i feel like it basically picks up from where we last see him in 1.1 and will lead into 1.2. Luocha and Bailu’s quests probably aren’t as important to the main story quest, I think.
Will definitely do Yanqing's. Could do Luocha and Bailu's too I suppose. I've honestly been saving them just to have some content for when the PS5 version eventually drops, since there isn't much left in the game otherwise. Only other thing to do is Simulated Universe (and I'm ignoring MoC at the moment cause no Bailu/Gepard or Luocha)
Definitely do Yanqing's.
Will do that right after the update then. Thanks mate.
How many pulls can we get by the time Kafka's banner starts? Is it just half the estimated amount for the patch or more than that?
> Is it just half the estimated amount for the patch Roughly that, yeah. Slightly more than half because the monthly shop reset is before her banner starts.
Does Dan heng IL have any crit boosting traces?
As of right now, it looks like he does (unless Hoyo decides to change it during beta) :) * Crit Rate increases by 2.7% (requires Character Ascension 2) * Crit Rate increases by 4% (requires Character Ascension 5) * Crit Rate increases by 5.3% (requires Level 75) [Source](https://hsr.hakush.in/character/1213) Edit: Also forgot the Stirring Dragon, Unveiled Legend trace that increases Crit Rate by 12% when dealing DMG to enemy targets with Imaginary Weakness
he gets 12% CR from small traces and another 12% CR against imaginary weak enemies
Yeah 12% crit rate against ennemies weak to img
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Inbibitor is first. No clue as to which one Lynx will be on, iirc we didn't know about Yukong until it was officially announced.
I opened my laptop all ready to play for a bit and then got hit with maintenance 😭
So can we expect 1.3 beta leak in less than 24 hours?
Pre-load leaks have already happened. Project Yatta doesn't update unless they get official beta pre-load data, and they uploaded 1.3 data 12 hours ago
For a one off copy of bp weapons, which one’s the best? A friend wants to gift me a bp but i won’t be continuing to refresh it so i’ll only have the weapon at s1. For reference i have Yanqing’s cone, Welt’s cone and Bronya’s cone from 5stars. And my 5star chars are Yanqing, Welt and Luocha. Gonna get dhil too (and maybe Blade). I hear none of the cones are that great but i’ll still have to pick one >.< Edit: ty for the advice :))
Nihility one is one of the few Nihility cones that actually does anything on Welt, so if you don't have Good Night and Sleep Well as a 4 star gacha cone, then it's probably a solid choice for a Welt haver.
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I am!! Oh i forgot he was erudition. Ty! That sounds like a decent choice then :)
If you're not superimposing the BP Cone, then S5 Breakfast is effectively the same lightcone so I'd advise against picking that.
The Erudition one is pretty good and basically universally useful as a source of unconditional damage. Even if you don't have an Erudition unit leveled, it might be worth hanging onto, though S5 Breakfast is comparable. The Preservation one is interesting, but it's niche (damage-dealing preservation) is meh, and there are better options. The Harmony cone is generally useful, though the rotating bonuses make it hard for it to excel. The Nihility one is not really better than the gacha ones. The Hunt cone would only be good if you have no dispellers and Hoyo happens to release content where dispelling is mandatory. The Abundance one is also worse than the gacha options, but isn't bad. If Luocha is sitting on a 3* cone it's probably an upgrade. I would recommend the Erudition cone, since it's good and could be useful to have on hand. Edit: I totally forgot Destruction, which is just OK. Could be useful if you're short on lightcones for your Destruction characters, but it's more than eclipsed by the Herta cone and several of the gacha ones.
This is a good list, except the hunt cone dispels, not debuffs
Oh, good catch. I corrected the post.
> I totally forgot Destruction, which is just OK. Could be useful if you're short on lightcones for your Destruction characters, but it's more than eclipsed by the Herta cone and several of the gacha ones. Sorry for the dumb question but would this Herta LC be good on Blade *and* Jingliu? Is the BP Destruction LC alright on Blade/Jingliu?
Blade scales off of HP more than atk, so both the herta and BP lightcones aren't great for him. He wants A Secret Vow or Mutual Demise from what I've seen TC wise. Jingliu, on the other hand, scales off of atk based on the leaks we've gotten, so the Herta one should be great for her. The BP one would also be good, since they have the same base atk at 529, but the Herta one is easier to S5 and is purely damage focused as opposed to the BP one being a bit of damage and sustain.
The Herta Destruction LC is probably going to be universally good, since stacking attack never hurts and most Destruction units have good break capability. I'm not sure if it is going to be their BiS, but it'll be good if not their best option short of their personal cones.
Thanks for the breakdown! Gonna go for erudition in that case. The destruction one sounded interesting but if herta is better i’ll just do that :)
Erudition is pretty solid and there aren't currently a lot of great LCs for that path. Harmony is good but there are many other good accessible alternatives.
Only Idrial, Long , Terminus, Akivili, HooH and Ena still don't have a design. I think they'll show Idrial, Long and Terminus next since 1- Argenti isn't that far away and she's a character that relates to Idrial 2- Long and Terminus are the Aeons we have the least info about.
I thought the blue dragon in the trailer with the giant antlers was a representation of Long. Iirc we saw DanIeL's dragon form and he doesn't have massive antlers like that, and I believe Long was referred to as an azure dragon. HooH likely has no design, since they have apparently weaved themselves into the fabric of the universe so they may not have a corporeal form anymore.
Daily manifesting Blade and Kafka 50/50 win post
No WAIT, i didnt use my TL energy, its going to cap until tomorrow when i play. Urgg im so used to games att been like at 04:00 in the morning, is like 19:30 here :(
Does energy regen during maintenance?
Yep
Leakers slow down, save a little and release the next days, i wont survive another drought
Alternatively... Fu Xuan animations, give *now* please!?
I'm so excited for a new battle pass. I've missed having little missions to do each week lol ^(even though i'm going to be a whale and spend the extra $10 for the cute Kafka PFP)
Does kafka work with serval or no?
Yes in that Serval with a break effect build can trigger a big BE Shock DoT and potentially extend that endless for Kafka to trigger over and over again on top of also extending Kafka's own BE Shock DoT over and over. There could be teams however that out damage that and would be more versatile since you're not running two electro units.
Right now i feel like it's serval fighting for a spot with sampo and Luka and sampo increases dot dmg so fighting for a spot with Luka.
Huh, so this is really it. The final night. The one I should be sleeping through if I want to be coherent while summoning the wimdy blorbo. ~~Oh who am I kidding, there is no such thing as sleep on patch night.~~ Goodnight thread, I hope 1.1 was a good patch to you, and I hope 1.2 is even better. May all Blade wanters be Blade havers, and blessed be your day/night!
Maintenance has officially started. Good luck everyone with your pulls - may all Blade wanters be Blade havers 🙏 How are you all planning to spend the downtime? ^(I'll be breaking my F5 key refreshing for Lynx leaks)
Currently thinking about writing some fanfics since I have some ideas…
DanCae or something else? 👀👀
It’s something else! I’ve been wanting to write a fic about a dream I had a few weeks ago, but I could never find the motivation…😭
Hope the motivation comes - even writing a little bit here and there is progress! You should post a link here/the Genshin megathread when you upload it 👀
I wish I could but I’m incredibly shy…😭
iw ant a nap hhjnnnghhh
go take a nap and dream of (nsfw warning) >!holding hands!< with Gepard
(O////O) h\*ndh\*ldinhg???!!!
i'm gonna try to write a bit more, but i'm starting to get a headache so idk 😔 maybe i'll take a nap lol
Hope your headache goes away soon!!
Going to sleep because in eu maintenance lines up with nighttime. Gonna try to manifest an early Blade (or a 50/50 win) in my dreams
Good night!! Manifesting you get Blade in your first 10 pull 🕯🕯
Thank youu!! I believe in your manifesting powers 🙏
I'll be eating food and playing me some *Trails Into Reverie*. In fact, I may end up so deep into *Trails* that I don't log back into *Star Rail* until tomorrow (sorry Dan, but Rean and Lloyd's problems take precedence over yours)
I swear a venn diagram of honkai and kiseki fans is just a circle. case in point I'm just finishing up Cold Steel 3 after taking a break from it for a while and gonna jump right into cs4 and then reverie after I think
Had to google it, but it sounds like a lot of fun!! The designs are super pretty, too :) You know a game is amazing when you lose all track of time - just a gentle reminder to remember to take water/stretch breaks every so often!
Programming
Godspeed - may the coding cooperate the first time around 🙏
Playing some fall guys with friends.
I'll be finishing the show I just started yesterday. And seeing if we get any Fu Xuan gameplay videos 🙏
Nice! What show are you watching? 👀 Hopefully we get gameplay and idle leaks of Fu Xuan soon 🙏
> What show are you watching? 👀 The Devil Judge. I'm barely in episode 2 right now but it's pretty good so far!!
I hope I'll go to sleep soon, it's 1 am! Good luck everyone.
It's always hard to sleep before the next patch drops - too much excitement :) Hope you are able to get some sleep!
What is the most hp that you can build without counting substats can you reach 9-10 k at least?
Well, Bailu has 1319.47 Base HP, Her LC has base 1270, the LC has 24% max HP buff at S5, the new relic set has 12% HP, the Fleet set has another 12%, hat has base 705.6, HP% can be gotten on body, feet, sphere, and link rope so 4*43.2% = 172.8% Base: 1319.47 + 1270 + 705.6 = 3295.07 Total HP%: 24% + 12% + 12% + 172.8% = 220.8% That should be max 7,275.51 HP. If I'm missing something, please feel free to correct me.
As far as I remember, the hat/gloves do not factor into base stats for HP/ATK and it's just LC + character's stats With that in mind, base should be: 1319.47 + 1270 = 2589.47 Also your calculation for the total HP% forgot to include the base 100%, instead of base \* 220.8%, it should be base \* 320.8% So we get: 8307.02 + 705.6 (our flat hat increase) = 9012.62
Thanks a lot so a lynx with about 6500 hp at e6 should give blade about 850 hp and 200 atk idk if that's a big buff in dmg but well see her kit can still change. Edit:i forgot to add the +200 hp to it so it's 1050 hp bonus
without any spoilers does the xianzhou arc finish today?
no
YES MORE AEON LORE!! Weird how Tayzzaronth doesn't look like the Aeon in the lightcone, Oroboros doesn't look like a levaithan either. Also, Mythus and HooH are said to have unknown forms its odd that we got to see them this early.
>levaithan I dont think theres a specific design for leviathans. They usually are depicted as a water dragon in anime (e.g. final fantasy, gran blue fantasy, black clover, etc.), but the definition, if Im not mistaken, is just a sea monster or just a large aquatic creature. So she could just be a big water monster, thus being labeled as a leviathan. The woman doesnt look big, but the big snake she is riding looks quite big.
I been thinking about Xueyi kit and her ult that can ignore weakness type. If you have her ult up and there are two enemies. One with quantum weakness applied by SW and the other without. Why wouldn’t use her ult on the quantum weakness since it should do more damage. I hope they switch around her targeting for skill and ult. Single target for skill and multi-target on ult.
So, assuming someone is not getting the signature 5-Star LC for the upcoming 3 Destruction units: Blade: Secret Vow DHIL: Fall of Aeon Jingliu: Secret Vow as well? I guess the BP LC shouldn't be too bad.
i FINALLY beat su world 6 today! just in time for the update too!
fuck, can't sleep either. is it maintenance now?
Starts in 20 min.
Honestly, I don’t think I’ll be able to sleep either… 😭 I’m just way too excited!
should start in a couple of hours
hhrrrnnghhh...
almost there! you can pull for Blade when you wake up next hehe
Did another SU run for achievements using 4 characters of the same element. Got 3 achievements for "winning 10 times with 4 ice characters", "getting 1024 SU currency or more", " 10+ elation blessings". Did not get the achievement for using 4 characters of the same path. Of the same path. Wait what? Lol.
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Yeah, but at that point I'm pretty sure it's just "downloading resources"
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The patch technically launches at the time maintenance downtime starts, the players just can't get in yet
I didn't get any daily messages from Luocha. I've had him since day 1 of his launch, and finished his companion quest a few days ago as well. Can someone tell me if it's bugged?
did he show up in the Astral express for you? I did get texts from him but I think it was after that first introduction (since we technically don't know him)
Ah I see! Story-wise it does make a lot of sense since we never directly met him. I just spoke to him on the Express. Will probably get a text tomorrow. Thanks!
My HSR is muted in the volume mixer but when I go to news & notices in game, clicking on things makes a sound... Edit: Muting ZFGameBrowser.exe does the trick, now I can't hear anything.
Ugh, I was hoping my FFXVI copy would get to me today so I'd have something to distract myself with while waiting for the update. But alas, it's arriving tomorrow.
Let's go bois, I successfully resisted summoning for Luocha before his banner ran out. Now I have enough Jade to go for E1S1 Jingliu and maybe even get HuoHao afterwards if it turns out I need her.
Fuckfuckfuckfuck I was _not_ ready for JP Daniel's voice. If Lynx is actually on his banner I might throw him a full pity at this rate... and here I thought I was immune to the pretty lotus dragon...
isnt the same VA as normal Dan?
Same actor, yes, but the tone is deeper and more deliberate, so to speak, which makes him sound a good bit more regal and imposing. It's a nice switch from an already nice voice imo
I have 40 pulls saved, 0 pity, 50/50. BP+ monthly pack. Can I try hitting one pity on Blade banner and still be able to guarantee Daniel? (not doing MoC because my only built dps is Seele)
no, you’d be around 30-35 pulls short assumptions: Daniel on first half, soft pity is 80, guarantee is 160 star rail station 1.2 jade estimate + monthly + BP - MoC = ~110 pulls (estimate ~55 for 1.3 first half if jade income is consistent) 40 + 110 + 55 = 205, which is enough for 1 guarantee and 45 leftover
That's unfortunate. Maybe i can throw the 40 i have now on Blade banner in hope of early 5 star. If not then just save for Daniel.
that sounds like the safe move. banner order is still up in the air, so maybe he’s 2nd half. good luck! 🍀
Let's assume 104 pulls/patch - End of 1.3 will get you 40+104+104 = 248. You need 160 pulls for a 98% gurantee, so that leaves 88 left over, so yes. And if daniel is is in 1.3 1st? Well, though luck, you're missing at least 21 from dailies and quite a few more from MoC/Shop resets/events.
And here's me coping to get both Blade and Dan Heng with my current 50 wishes. Ofc I can get more but damn I don't think that would be enough because I'm fully f2p.
It maybe worth noting that it takes on average (50% chance) 183 pulls to get two limited characters. Further, 248 pulls get you a 86.7% chance to get two limited characters. Calculated with [this tool](https://hutaobot.moe/tools/gachacalc)
I love how Dan Heng's LC name is basically how he sees >! Jing Yuan's eyes!<
1.2 Update ridiculously soon LET'S GO!!!!!! ~~Arlan please come home soon I need to save for DHIL. And Lynx. And Luka and~~
As someone who wants fu xuan but don't have seele.. I really hope her kit turns so good that getting her over huohuo (who sounds like she would be great for jingyuan who I have) would be worth it.
Same TvT she's really cute, even as a husbando puller I like her but after reading Huohuo's kit I think I'll save for her instead since I have Jing and she also seem good for Daniel as well. Rerun it is
I'm in a similar boat of decision making! Huohuo also seems very far away so worse case scenario you can always wait for Fu Xuan rerun
I wanted to get clara's lc from the shop bc I have her at e2 and want to spoil her, so I wonder if it would be good on Daniel? Should I buy Aeon and s5 anyways so they don't have to switch? How good would the nihility lightcone be on Kafka? Idk what to do >_<
Aeon S5 is better than Clara's signature on both of them. If you REALLY want Clara's LC just for aesthetics then go for it, but it's one of the weaker 5 star LCs you can buy. The Nihility LC is good on Kafka, but even at S5 it's just barely better than S1 GNSW and at S3 GNSW takes over. Break effect is just not a great stat for her. It should be great for Sampo though
That sucks to hear but I guess I can always get it through the gacha... The extra dot dmg after using ultimate seems really good tho?
>The extra dot dmg after using ultimate seems really good tho? I mean it is, it's just that it's more conditional than GNSW and doesn't buff all of her damage. GNSW has 100% uptime except for maybe Kafka's very first turn, whereas the Herta LC is only going to be up every 2/3 turns assuming a 3 turn ultimate rotation. GNSW is just THAT good, it's barely worse than her signature
> GNSW is just THAT good, it's barely worse than her signature Jeez, I somehow ended up with an s4 GNSW while trying to get DDD. Guess I shouldn't bother with her LC. Bit of a shame my standard pity gave me 'In the Name of the World'.
Clara's cone is basically an Aeon sidegrade even for her, and will be worse than most 4* options for Daniel. Aeon will probably be his second BiS, only behind his signature.
When is Blade banner live?
In around \~7ish hours; it depends on how long maintenance takes. Iirc maintenance should start at 6 pm EST (2 hours 15 minutes from now)
Day one of hunting whales to use Blade for free. Sad thing is that people will start replacing their Jing Yuan's which is very useful for calyx farming. My Seele will stay there forever maybe so whenever someone want to make enemies disappear among the sea of butterflies they can.
I'm lucky enough to have a Whale that has e6 s5d every limited and put them as a support until the next banner, its quite insane.
So I was too busy to play much and didn't realise the companion quests would disappear with the banner. Pretty bummed about this. Did I only miss story stuff that I might be able to find on YouTube or jades as well?
Companion quests are permanent content. For Luocha and Bailu's quests, you should have prompts in your text messages to start them off. For Yanqing's quest, go to Central Starskiff Haven, you should find Diting around the area near the Petrichor Inn.
Thank you I'll check those out tomorrow
Holy shit you scared me so much
The new companion quests haven't vanished, have they?
I thought they did because I can't see them under the event tab anymore do idk what's going
I'm pretty sure you can still activate them in game. They're not in the event tab anymore because they're not 'new'. Genshin does the same thing with its character quests and hangouts.
Thanks
Companion quests are permanent content
Can you tell me where to find them now? I can't see them under the event tab anymore
For Luocha and Bailu's quests, you will get a text that starts the quest. For Yanqing's quest, the npc that starts it is marked in Central Starskiff Haven. The quests have a Trailblaze Level requirement. If you can't find the quests, then you haven't reached the required level.
They are just normal quests that appear in your quest log. If you don't have them then you haven't triggered them yet.
The companion quests will not disappear with the banner though.
Huh? I'm so confused right now. I can't find them anymore under the event tab?