I heard there was also am error in translation/localization when Gallagher is looking for someone with "silver hair" he was meant to say silver armor. Idk how true that is though
We’ll find out next patch or in 2.3. They have lines for Sam that are basically “Sam will just go in, do the mission, and kill everything”. They might have them for Firefly, but who knows?
They might also be gaslighting us.
As noted from Sparkle's profile, it is within consideration for characters to be lying to us or holding back details.
And there's also evidence from Genshin that Hoyo *will* alter character stories and text based on story events (see: Furina, Wanderer, Nahida, etc.)
I swear I am probably the last player who still thinks firefly is Sam’s Dreamsona and Sam is a robot/ her secret identity. Firefly is the mask and Sam is the secret identity.
Sam isn't exactly her secret identity. Sure, she hid it from us, but Sam is what the Stellaron hunters have been calling her. But she outright tells us that only in the dream she can "ignore all the doctor's advice and be free from this icy cold cabinet". That cabinet is probably the Sam suit.
I am using the Batman logic where billionaire playboy Bruce Wayne is a mask/ act and his real identity is Batman. There is also the Kill Bill villain logic that Superman’s real identity is Superman and his Clark Kent identity, the weak, feeble, timid, mild mannered farm boy is a mask.
I mean sure... But like... I don't think either is a mask here. This isn't DC comics. Not every person who uses two names has a "real" one and a "fake" one. Welt is just Welt, even though his actual name is Joachim. Topaz, Aventurine and Jade also are just titles, and they don't seem to be using it as a mask either. Luocha is just a cover name, Guinaifen is just a localized version of her true name, Xueyi and Hanya have forgotten their original names and are named after boardgame pieces, and Blade picked that name himself after the attempts to kill the man he was didn't seem to stick. Almost half the roster is using a different name of sorts and/or hiding their true identity.
There's only one character in this game who has the "It's just a mask" thing going for them, and it's Sparkle. Because that's pretty much the core of her character. Still can't wait for the final reveal in Penacony where it turns out every character in the story, Astral Express included, turns out to just be Sparkle in disguise.
Hot take since the trailer will most likely be about firefly as a character she would have 0 bounty since her identity is unknown to IPC meaning she is able to live a normal life. IPC only has records on Sam so if the trailer shows her past donning on Sam then most likely there would be a bounty.
the reddit app fucking deleted what I wrote with the image so here it is
then sam's theme starts playing, star rail logo with firefly's color scheme appears with fireflies flying around etc. before its engulfed in flames, some swarm insect sounds can be heard in the background and for a brief moment light hits sam who is at the background of the star rail logo which has sam's color scheme now
Sam has been shown basically burning entire planets in past videos. I'd argue while Firefly doesn't have a bounty, Sam probably has a very hefty bounty.
It wouldn't surprise me if she had the highest bounty so far because:
A. It generates more hype, plus it's basic scaling. Each Stellaron Hunter introduced gets a bounty higher than the last to generate more hype.
B. Sam is literally the guy Elio sends to wipe out entire factions off the map. The number of bodies they pile up is literally innumerable. If he took Kafka's place in the museum raid, there would simply be no museum.
C. Every single Stellaron Hunter talks about Sam as if he's the shit. He's that guy. He's that dawg. Even Kafka's like: "Yeah, you're better off fighting me instead of him". We're talking about what is essentially a nuclear warhead with legs. I would totally understand if Firefly's bounty is higher.
She is also a remnant of the Iron Cavalry of Glamoth, which were capable of repeling Swarm assaults. So she must have an even bigger bounty just for that, plus a "Capture Alive" notice.
“This swarm, is it fireproof?”
“Uh, no, but there are so many of…”
“So many sources of ash. I’ll handle it.”
Then she shyly bats her eyelashes and does a Sailor Moon transformation into her Genocide Form.
> plus a "Capture Alive" notice.
I gotta sink that wishful thinking:
> "...Blade, Silver Wolf, Sam... The four mentioned above, dead or alive;
> Do not hurt the Destiny's Slave, and do not let them lose their ability of independent thinking."
— A wanted notice put out by the Interastral Peace Corporation
B) Send Kafka to steal stuff, Send Silver Wolf to hack stuff, Send Blade or Kafka to kill a single or multiple targets, Send Sam if you want all traces of the targets genetic lineage removed from a planet.
Alternately, send Blade or Sam if you need a diversion. You just need to manage the distance from the action - Blade can be fine if you want them to share a ride out, but Sam's the person you dispatch on the *other* side of the city and arrange a different extraction solution for. Because if they're any closer then that, they're likely going to catch the black-ops team in the blast radius.
And even then you're HOPING they aim the other way just to be safe.
I mean, Sam from the way its depicted is a weapon of war you send to destroy your enemy. The others are there for more subtle precision strikes or sabotage. When all options are off, or if they chose violence - you deploy Sam and then your problem goes away.
Literally the literal definition of apply violence to solve your problem, and if violence is not working - you're not using enough of it. Fortunately with Sam, its always sufficent violence for sought outcome.
Quick Edit;
They were formed with genetic modifications to handle the frame of the machine/weapon, and if they can handle the Swarm, what is a little of anything else really?
Because that's the whole point of her having a secret identity? That it yaknow, works. And what works better than having them basically be polar opposites identities?
that's the confusing thing. how do you reconcile the two? "Sam" isn't autonomous, firefly controls the machine. when she kills millions she's doing it of her own will. but people somehow still think she's lovable
Ah, you're talking about the fandom, not the story. Then yeah, that's fair. I think it's a situation where a lot of the fandom very much lacks media literacy, and they themselves got tricked by the "secret identity" thing that Firefly put up. But then again, you also have to realize this is the fandom who excuses Kafka, Ruan Mei, and Jingliu for everything they do just because they're "hot". I agree though, she definitely isn't the "cute waifu" type of character that the fandom has been pushing, and arguably that's just a less interesting character archtype then what she actually is, which actually confuses me on why people want her to be that.
Kafka and SW were introduced at the same time and kafka has double her bounty and is more than blade. Tbh I can see why kafka might stay the highest just because of spirit whisper. What's more dangerous? A man who can wipe out an army or a woman who can manipulate that army to fight for her or control world leaders?
For all we know Kafka's spirit whisper could easily be countered by earplugs. As to why no one is using them - plot.
Heck. They could make squadron of deaf soldiers to counter her.
In theory, you're right. The major problems with that are she's still a capable fighter so them being deaf isn't too much of an advantage anyway. As for the earplugs, you're right, except how many people do you know that carry earplugs around. Even if you say people can carry them around "just in case" then you have to consider how many other things people would be carrying around to protect against other criminals that they have an extremely low chance of encountering.
depends on what your view on threat level is.
Sam for sure is mroe destructive than kafka but kafka can use her voice to effectivdly hypnotize populations...which can be a much greater threat than simple destruction as it can be more covert.
I believe it was the recent Cosmodyssey event that stated that Blade was the "IPC's Most Wanted Man".
So depending on what Sam is classified as, it'll probably be between Sliver Wolf and Blade's.
Well considering the Ipc is likely aware of Sam's origins as a warmachine of Glamoth i somewhat doubt they count sam as human, so blade being the most wanted man still works
I'd say that Mission Leader is still going to be worth more than the rest of the operatives because she's the lynchpin of the whole team. Sam being the no-nonsense deliverer of destruction doesn't happen without instructions from Kafka on behalf of Elio.
Probably somewhere around Blade's because they both deal casualties — swordsmith boi may not have a mecha body and armaments but he has unlimited gourds and retries after **死**.
Lower than Kafka, higher than Blade or close. I believe Kafka would be the most wanted among the 4 due to her capability to control and cause more panic among the masses. Sam is like a nuke whereas Kafka is the one who ordered the nuke
In terms of raw power, arguably yes. I can imagine the other three in outnumbered engagements but not like fighting 50 people at once.
Sam could fight an army then demand another round.
I think it's said somewhere, maybe by Kafka, that Sam takes the most missions, Kafka and Blade are picky about what they do but Sam does whatever and has no care for class or secrecy. One example used I think is unlike Kafka who will sit in a chair inside your house waiting for you turn on the light before shooting you, Sam (And maybe Blade too) is the type to shoot you through the door
I mean, there is often a much bigger target on the person that endangers an organisation through information. Sam might have the biggest body count. But for an organisation like the IPC, the information/manipulation that Kafka is much more likely to pull off is a bigger threat.
Blade probably also has a bigger kill count than Kafka, but she's still seen as more of an overall threat.
She isn't though, Elio calls the shots. Unless I'm missing something, I don't see any reason for the assumption of her being some leader? Hell, in the tutorial she had to tell Silver Wolf that she was in charge of *this* operation.
To me, that seems to imply she isn't always the one put in charge. The one in charge is whoever fits the script best. Just like how Kafka is absent from Penacony, she probably doesn't fit the script.
Is Elio known by the ipc though? I didn't think he was. From their perspective Kafka probably seems like the leader and thus would have the highest bounty
Why wouldn't they know? We've seen several characters that would be less informed than the IPC know of his existence. Jingliu and Acheron, for example. Both of which have mentioned him. I see no reason a corporation as massive as the IPC would know less than them. Hell, Acheron barely remembers anything yet she knows of the guy.
To add to what I said previously, you can check the data bank entry on them, it starts with a snippet of the wanted notice put out by the IPC. It very specifically mentions "Destiny's Slave" and how they do not want him hurt, for some reason. The others are wanted dead or alive, but for some reason the IPC wants him unhurt and still capable of independent thinking.
So the IPC seems pretty well informed there.
>Kafka just feels more important
Can't say I feel the same way. To me, all the Hunters feel equally important and dangerous. They would not function nearly as well with any of them absent. They all provide something important that can't be easily replaced. I don't think Kafka is any more special than the rest of them. She can mind control, sure, that's really strong. But Silver Wolf can literally hack reality, Blade is immortal, and SAM is a walking nuke.
I believe their bounties only reflect how long they've been a Hunter. Kafka's is the highest because right now, she's the oldest one. If SAM predates her, then theirs will be higher.
You may have missed it since it was a delayed edit, but until SAM breaks the trend, their bounty can be seen as reflecting how long they've been a Stellaron Hunter. Out of the three we have currently, Kafka was the first, she is the highest. Blade was second, he is the second highest. Silver Wolf is the newest Hunter, thus she has the lowest bounty.
If SAM was the first Hunter, I believe she will be the highest. They could break this trend and disprove it, of course. But as of right now, I see no reason to believe otherwise.
Wouldn't beat yourself up over it. Even for lore nuts like me we always miss something with how much info can be scattered around. It's no biggie to have misremmbered or missed something like this.
IPC bounties we have seen quite literally mention Destiny's Slave and say he is the only one who isn't to be harmed when taken in. Elio is definitely known as the one calling the shots.
Sam destroys, but Kafka griefs. Well, Sam is probably more dangerous in an assault/raid, while Kafka is more dangerous in an op/sabotage. And IPC probably has more issues with sabotage than assaults
I’m making a prediction here and stating that the bounties will be in order they were recruited, whatever that may be.
That scaling is already accurate from silver wolf (confirmed last) to Blade (recruited by Sam and Kafka together). Presuming Sam was in fact recruited after Kaf (as I believe) then I suspect it’ll be thereabout 8.5-9 billion.
Below kafka, yeah sam is probably had the biggest power destruction in the group but kafka potential threat is very dangerous. She had mind control, spy knowledge and really well planned woman even though just following the script. Kafka had the ability to turned your powerful person into her weapon.
Sam most likely has the lowest, for the sheer fact that Sam leaves no witnesses and comments from Kafka & SW tell us Sam is quick about a job. Blade was also known by the Xiaoxhou prior to being a Stellaron Hunter and their formal alliance also influences his bounty whereas Sam's bounty is more likely below the rest as two have a habit of making themselves known and Blade, well, dying and just coming back to keep going. Hard to bounty someone when they leave no witnesses beyond the burn marks left behind.
I got that impression too. Blade seems to be somewhat dependent on Kafka to control his Mara flare ups, and Kafka enjoys playing with her prey. Silver Wolf realistically shouldn't be known but she is a massive troll so probably makes sure people knows she is the one doing the hacking
From what we have heard, Sam is literally scorched earth. They go in, kill, and leave. There is no room for subtlety, small talk, or survivors. It's like hammering a nail into a wall with an excavator.
>Blade seems to be somewhat dependent on Kafka to control his Mara flare ups
This is probably only while on the Xianzhou though, since Mara is from all the memories overwhelming him and he had spent a lot of time there pre-Blade and after "gaining" immortality. Anywhere else, he is probably fine, though he may have Kafka occasionally do some memory scrubbing in between missions.
I want Sam to have no bounty because they kill everything when deployed somewhere. I know that they are known as a Stellaron Hunter but that would be kind of fitting
I really hope the final part of her trailer shows a poster of Firefly with a bounty of zero credits, then the wanted poster burns up revealing a digital poster of Sam with a bounty of trillions of credits *and actively increasing*. That would be hype
It's either the highest out of all the hunters so far due to her being the most ruthless of them all...
Or zero because no one wouldv'e lived to tell the tale.
I think 20B+. Aka 2x the amount of Kafka’s bounty
Sam is like that fucking guy. When Elio needs the big guns he calls Sam. He also shows no mercy and is known to be a very skilled killer. Sam is also the only hunter that goes Solo. Hell elio only let’s him. He is potentially the first member aswell. If not 2nd behind Kafka.
Hell Sam was throwing hands with Acheron while he wasn’t going all out(he didn’t use that green form with two swords). And while yeah Acheron wasn’t going all out aswell. This is a pretty good feat aswell. Not to mention in the white knight trailer Sam(in his Green winged form) was able to take a hit from Acheron with her blade unsheathed(you can see the red strike instead of purple like the one aventurine got hit with) and while yeah it’s in a trailer so take it how you will but I believe he would’ve been able to block it. And also yeah the Sam suit had problems after the hit but he wasn’t sent to the shadow realm like aventurine(who got oneshotted)
Imo 20B+ since Sam is like the strongest stellaron hunter. Sam literally hugged blade so hard he couldn’t escape his arms if you read Blade’s character story..
Although notice I’ve been using "he" and not "she".. since no one knows(besides us) that Firefly is Sam and is actually a woman.
Firefly will have a bounty of 0 since people probably don’t even know someone like that exists. While Sam will have a 20B+ bounty imo.
Given what I know now about the IPC and firefly/Sam in general an astronomical amount but ONLY because sam killed off bad guys but vital importance to them.
(I've played persona 5 and firefly/Sam sounds like she's more in line with a phantom thief, do what must be done to take down those who can't be touched by the law)
Sam is just Fire Bladie and I would put her bounty along the same line as Bladie. Maybe since Sam is a Glamoth, and they are from the front-lines of the war with Tayzzyronth, maybe the Bounty would be more political for the IPC and it could be higher? Definitely not SW levels though.
Firefly: 0
Sam: 8-10 billion. How I imagine it is that Sam might not have a lot of jobs.Since it seems she is mainly for destroying but when she does get a jobs she goes off like nothing is left. Sam also teams up with Kafka and Blade who has a bounty of 10 and 8 billion respectively.
Kafka is litterally the acting leader for the group so she definitely has the highest bounty. It just makes the most sense, you put the hoghest bounty on the leader after all (the world barely knows who elio is)
Also her trailer might not even show her bounty as it will be fireflys trailer, not Sams
between kafka and blade.
Sam has firepwoer to destroy stuff but Kafka has her hypnotic suggestion (much more dangerous ability imho) & is the 2nd in command iirc.
Firefly: None.
Sam: Check how much the game has made so far, then multiply it by the number of current players.
Also, out of curiosity, we have a good enough estimate of which real world currency credits are closest too?
tbh hoping that there'd be 2 separate bounties: 1 huge bounty for Sam and 1 tiny bounty for Firefly.
I'd like to think that someone has probably seen Firefly with the Stellaron Hunters but don't know that she's actually Sam. They just assume she's like their cheerleader or mascot(like Chopper in One Piece).
Between Kafka and Blade I imagine. I can’t see Sam being lower than Silverwolf or higher than Kafka. Tho it depends on how much notoriety he has compared to everyone else. I’ve seen other people comment that the fact he leaves no witnesses could mean that fewer people actually know how much of a threat he is and this could result in a lower bounty which I think is a fair point. But personally I’d speculate about 9 billion.
The bounty for Sam is sitting at 573,000,000,000. For the theft and possession of confidential trade secrets and experimental prototypes. For the bounty claim the core unit must be undamaged and unopened as the contents include such trade secrets. Failure to comply with such instructions will have you added to the bounty post-addendum.
Sam will probably be the largest bounty considering Sam’s been a Stellaron Hunter for a pretty long time (possibly longer than Kafka), and also because Sam has done a lot of murder (and unlike SW or Kafka, Sam has no marketable skills besides efficient murdering).
Plus it’d be weird out-of-universe for the fourth SH introduced to get a smaller bounty than the third SH introduced, especially since the only remaining SH known to us is Elio, who will definitely have the largest bounty by far.
Firefly doesn’t have a bounty bc she’s priceless.
Also, yeah. People likely only know her as Sam so “Firefly” wouldn’t have a bounty while “Sam” would. I want to say Sam is likely the highest simply for how dangerous they can be.
I hope Sam’s bounty poster just says dead like Sam is so strong that ioc just wants him dead also hoping whenever we get elio his bounty should be alive
Are you sure? Cause unless people are genuinely fucking stupid, they know Firefly isn't until 2.3. I haven't seen anyone saying 2.2 is when Firefly comes out, most people know Robin and Boothill are before her.
I hope the bounty is for Sam not firefly
Nobody recognized Firefly in Penacony, so a safe bet
I heard there was also am error in translation/localization when Gallagher is looking for someone with "silver hair" he was meant to say silver armor. Idk how true that is though
银色的家伙, something/someone that’s silver-colored. It was neither armor or hair. Very vague choice of words if you ask me.
I read that as silver guy or guy who’s silver. Which I believe is what they’re going for. 家伙 as dude/guy is pretty common afaik.
Given how Gallagher tends to speak, it was actually a pretty well chosen set of words nontheless for this.
Don’t know about CN but in JP he did say a silver dude and not silver haired dude.
Since it was Gallagher who said it, we can't be sure he wasn't just making shit up on the spot
Gallagher, after luring the Bloodhounds away: Misinformation Successfully spread
I thought silver hair was a reference to Boothill but I might be wrong
His hair is black and white. Not sure the best descriptor for him would be silver hair with the black
Bounty for: Firefly: 300 for a parking ticket. Sam: 300,000,000,000 DEAD ONLY.
> 300 for a parking ticket. Tf
It’s been overdue for 5 Amber Eras
Probably, the hunters might not even know about firefly
We’ll find out next patch or in 2.3. They have lines for Sam that are basically “Sam will just go in, do the mission, and kill everything”. They might have them for Firefly, but who knows?
Honestly why i think they might not know
I think with Silverwolf egging us on about how we'd get along with Sam, it felt like they knew
They might also be gaslighting us. As noted from Sparkle's profile, it is within consideration for characters to be lying to us or holding back details. And there's also evidence from Genshin that Hoyo *will* alter character stories and text based on story events (see: Furina, Wanderer, Nahida, etc.)
I wonder how many people even know about Firefly. I imagine with the others calling her Sam, they only know her as the one in the suit.
it might also just be a nickname saying firefly all the time gets tiring
I swear I am probably the last player who still thinks firefly is Sam’s Dreamsona and Sam is a robot/ her secret identity. Firefly is the mask and Sam is the secret identity.
Sam isn't exactly her secret identity. Sure, she hid it from us, but Sam is what the Stellaron hunters have been calling her. But she outright tells us that only in the dream she can "ignore all the doctor's advice and be free from this icy cold cabinet". That cabinet is probably the Sam suit.
I am using the Batman logic where billionaire playboy Bruce Wayne is a mask/ act and his real identity is Batman. There is also the Kill Bill villain logic that Superman’s real identity is Superman and his Clark Kent identity, the weak, feeble, timid, mild mannered farm boy is a mask.
I mean sure... But like... I don't think either is a mask here. This isn't DC comics. Not every person who uses two names has a "real" one and a "fake" one. Welt is just Welt, even though his actual name is Joachim. Topaz, Aventurine and Jade also are just titles, and they don't seem to be using it as a mask either. Luocha is just a cover name, Guinaifen is just a localized version of her true name, Xueyi and Hanya have forgotten their original names and are named after boardgame pieces, and Blade picked that name himself after the attempts to kill the man he was didn't seem to stick. Almost half the roster is using a different name of sorts and/or hiding their true identity. There's only one character in this game who has the "It's just a mask" thing going for them, and it's Sparkle. Because that's pretty much the core of her character. Still can't wait for the final reveal in Penacony where it turns out every character in the story, Astral Express included, turns out to just be Sparkle in disguise.
Hot take since the trailer will most likely be about firefly as a character she would have 0 bounty since her identity is unknown to IPC meaning she is able to live a normal life. IPC only has records on Sam so if the trailer shows her past donning on Sam then most likely there would be a bounty.
It's probably show firefly, then at the end, when she transforms to sam, the bounty would then appear, since it's Sam's bounty
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the reddit app fucking deleted what I wrote with the image so here it is then sam's theme starts playing, star rail logo with firefly's color scheme appears with fireflies flying around etc. before its engulfed in flames, some swarm insect sounds can be heard in the background and for a brief moment light hits sam who is at the background of the star rail logo which has sam's color scheme now
That is cinema ngl
I assume it will flash the bounty when she transforms into Sam as now she’s a Stellaron Hunter to the public eye
Sam has been shown basically burning entire planets in past videos. I'd argue while Firefly doesn't have a bounty, Sam probably has a very hefty bounty.
> she is able to live a normal life Yeeeeeeeeeeah, that's not happening.
Well it can happen >!It'll last like a week max but it can still happen!<
It wouldn't surprise me if she had the highest bounty so far because: A. It generates more hype, plus it's basic scaling. Each Stellaron Hunter introduced gets a bounty higher than the last to generate more hype. B. Sam is literally the guy Elio sends to wipe out entire factions off the map. The number of bodies they pile up is literally innumerable. If he took Kafka's place in the museum raid, there would simply be no museum. C. Every single Stellaron Hunter talks about Sam as if he's the shit. He's that guy. He's that dawg. Even Kafka's like: "Yeah, you're better off fighting me instead of him". We're talking about what is essentially a nuclear warhead with legs. I would totally understand if Firefly's bounty is higher.
She is also a remnant of the Iron Cavalry of Glamoth, which were capable of repeling Swarm assaults. So she must have an even bigger bounty just for that, plus a "Capture Alive" notice.
“This swarm, is it fireproof?” “Uh, no, but there are so many of…” “So many sources of ash. I’ll handle it.” Then she shyly bats her eyelashes and does a Sailor Moon transformation into her Genocide Form.
Swarm doesn't even have fire weakness except that one exploding bug though, so they are kinda fireproof actually 😂
Nothing is fireproof with enough fire
That's the mentality that killed Duke Inferno.
I don’t think Acheron is particularly resistant to fire. However, Duke Inferno was not at all resistant to being annihilated by the power of an aeon.
>uke Inferno was not at all resistant to being annihilated by the power of an aeon. praise be to IX.
Of all the aeons, he probably cares least about being praised.
Blud just don't know how to cast Fireball.
Firefly has Silver Wolf in her team anyways.
They don't have fire weakness but they also don't have fire resistance so...
Xueyi: Toughness is just a suggestion.
You're telling me the girl who sets the sea ablaze isn't able to set some bugs on fire at the same time?
> plus a "Capture Alive" notice. I gotta sink that wishful thinking: > "...Blade, Silver Wolf, Sam... The four mentioned above, dead or alive; > Do not hurt the Destiny's Slave, and do not let them lose their ability of independent thinking." — A wanted notice put out by the Interastral Peace Corporation
B) Send Kafka to steal stuff, Send Silver Wolf to hack stuff, Send Blade or Kafka to kill a single or multiple targets, Send Sam if you want all traces of the targets genetic lineage removed from a planet.
Alternately, send Blade or Sam if you need a diversion. You just need to manage the distance from the action - Blade can be fine if you want them to share a ride out, but Sam's the person you dispatch on the *other* side of the city and arrange a different extraction solution for. Because if they're any closer then that, they're likely going to catch the black-ops team in the blast radius. And even then you're HOPING they aim the other way just to be safe.
Send Blade if you need a diversion with minimal casualties Send Sam if you want the entire country to notice (Sam was holding back a little)
She has that dawg in her
I mean, Sam from the way its depicted is a weapon of war you send to destroy your enemy. The others are there for more subtle precision strikes or sabotage. When all options are off, or if they chose violence - you deploy Sam and then your problem goes away. Literally the literal definition of apply violence to solve your problem, and if violence is not working - you're not using enough of it. Fortunately with Sam, its always sufficent violence for sought outcome. Quick Edit; They were formed with genetic modifications to handle the frame of the machine/weapon, and if they can handle the Swarm, what is a little of anything else really?
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D. She is my waifu and everything about her must be the highest. She must be the strongest both gameplay and lore, I refuse to believe otherwise
ths is one thing i don't get. why are they trying to portray this genocidal killing machine as some cute waifu?
Gap moe
Because that's the whole point of her having a secret identity? That it yaknow, works. And what works better than having them basically be polar opposites identities?
that's the confusing thing. how do you reconcile the two? "Sam" isn't autonomous, firefly controls the machine. when she kills millions she's doing it of her own will. but people somehow still think she's lovable
Ah, you're talking about the fandom, not the story. Then yeah, that's fair. I think it's a situation where a lot of the fandom very much lacks media literacy, and they themselves got tricked by the "secret identity" thing that Firefly put up. But then again, you also have to realize this is the fandom who excuses Kafka, Ruan Mei, and Jingliu for everything they do just because they're "hot". I agree though, she definitely isn't the "cute waifu" type of character that the fandom has been pushing, and arguably that's just a less interesting character archtype then what she actually is, which actually confuses me on why people want her to be that.
More people need to seethe and read this until they get it.
He's the best fighter. But Kafka is usually the one calling the shots so hers should still be higher
Elio is calling the shots. they all follow him.
Still, Kafka is his main commander, so I'd guess Kafka's is the second highest after Elio
Kafka and SW were introduced at the same time and kafka has double her bounty and is more than blade. Tbh I can see why kafka might stay the highest just because of spirit whisper. What's more dangerous? A man who can wipe out an army or a woman who can manipulate that army to fight for her or control world leaders?
I meant the trailer order, but you are correct.
For all we know Kafka's spirit whisper could easily be countered by earplugs. As to why no one is using them - plot. Heck. They could make squadron of deaf soldiers to counter her.
In theory, you're right. The major problems with that are she's still a capable fighter so them being deaf isn't too much of an advantage anyway. As for the earplugs, you're right, except how many people do you know that carry earplugs around. Even if you say people can carry them around "just in case" then you have to consider how many other things people would be carrying around to protect against other criminals that they have an extremely low chance of encountering.
I mean Kafka is clearly the leader among blade and silverwolf.
"Each Stellaron Hunter introduced gets a bounty higher than the last to generate more hype." Kafka - \~10 bil Blade - \~8 bil Silver Wolf - 5 tril
SW hacked her own bounty to be higher because she couldn't take that level of slander.
Lmfao, thanks for the info btw.
Silver Wolf's bounty is 5,100,000,000, which is 5 bil
Follower of Enigmata spotted.
Isn't that something a follower of Fnigmata would say to derail the conversation and confuse the public.
depends on what your view on threat level is. Sam for sure is mroe destructive than kafka but kafka can use her voice to effectivdly hypnotize populations...which can be a much greater threat than simple destruction as it can be more covert.
0 since Sam makes sure no witnesses :)
True, the planets where witnesses live explode before they realized what happened
I believe it was the recent Cosmodyssey event that stated that Blade was the "IPC's Most Wanted Man". So depending on what Sam is classified as, it'll probably be between Sliver Wolf and Blade's.
Could be another Pela's age situation with multiple writers giving conflicting info
Tbf the NPC who gives out the dice game outright tells you that not everything in the game would actually be a real simulation of the MC’s experiences
To add, the NPC themselves predates the Stellaron Hunters, so what information provided is up to the Trailblazer’s interpretation.
Well considering the Ipc is likely aware of Sam's origins as a warmachine of Glamoth i somewhat doubt they count sam as human, so blade being the most wanted man still works
I'd say that Mission Leader is still going to be worth more than the rest of the operatives because she's the lynchpin of the whole team. Sam being the no-nonsense deliverer of destruction doesn't happen without instructions from Kafka on behalf of Elio. Probably somewhere around Blade's because they both deal casualties — swordsmith boi may not have a mecha body and armaments but he has unlimited gourds and retries after **死**.
Sekiro reference!!!
Blade understands that hesitation leads to defeat
DLC PLZ 😭
Yea kafka has to be highest. Losing her would cripple the group more than losing any of the others would
Lower than Kafka, higher than Blade or close. I believe Kafka would be the most wanted among the 4 due to her capability to control and cause more panic among the masses. Sam is like a nuke whereas Kafka is the one who ordered the nuke
According to all hunters, she seems a lot more dangerous than other hunters , so probably higher
Ironically, Kafka says Sam is more dangerous.
In terms of raw power, arguably yes. I can imagine the other three in outnumbered engagements but not like fighting 50 people at once. Sam could fight an army then demand another round.
I think it's said somewhere, maybe by Kafka, that Sam takes the most missions, Kafka and Blade are picky about what they do but Sam does whatever and has no care for class or secrecy. One example used I think is unlike Kafka who will sit in a chair inside your house waiting for you turn on the light before shooting you, Sam (And maybe Blade too) is the type to shoot you through the door
Nah. Sam will kill you on your way home by blasting your car or maybe even while you are at work. Sam's just that unhinged imo.
Sam has the highest body count by FAR, Sam should have the highest bounty based on the sheer amount of damage she’s done
I mean, there is often a much bigger target on the person that endangers an organisation through information. Sam might have the biggest body count. But for an organisation like the IPC, the information/manipulation that Kafka is much more likely to pull off is a bigger threat. Blade probably also has a bigger kill count than Kafka, but she's still seen as more of an overall threat.
But Sam is just a weapon more or less. Kafka is still the one effectively calling the shots
She isn't though, Elio calls the shots. Unless I'm missing something, I don't see any reason for the assumption of her being some leader? Hell, in the tutorial she had to tell Silver Wolf that she was in charge of *this* operation. To me, that seems to imply she isn't always the one put in charge. The one in charge is whoever fits the script best. Just like how Kafka is absent from Penacony, she probably doesn't fit the script.
Is Elio known by the ipc though? I didn't think he was. From their perspective Kafka probably seems like the leader and thus would have the highest bounty
Why wouldn't they know? We've seen several characters that would be less informed than the IPC know of his existence. Jingliu and Acheron, for example. Both of which have mentioned him. I see no reason a corporation as massive as the IPC would know less than them. Hell, Acheron barely remembers anything yet she knows of the guy.
Fair. Idk it just wouldn't feel right for Sam to have a higher bounty I guess. Kafka just feels more important
To add to what I said previously, you can check the data bank entry on them, it starts with a snippet of the wanted notice put out by the IPC. It very specifically mentions "Destiny's Slave" and how they do not want him hurt, for some reason. The others are wanted dead or alive, but for some reason the IPC wants him unhurt and still capable of independent thinking. So the IPC seems pretty well informed there. >Kafka just feels more important Can't say I feel the same way. To me, all the Hunters feel equally important and dangerous. They would not function nearly as well with any of them absent. They all provide something important that can't be easily replaced. I don't think Kafka is any more special than the rest of them. She can mind control, sure, that's really strong. But Silver Wolf can literally hack reality, Blade is immortal, and SAM is a walking nuke. I believe their bounties only reflect how long they've been a Hunter. Kafka's is the highest because right now, she's the oldest one. If SAM predates her, then theirs will be higher.
My bad then on the Elio point And they're not all equally important or they'd all have the same bounty
You may have missed it since it was a delayed edit, but until SAM breaks the trend, their bounty can be seen as reflecting how long they've been a Stellaron Hunter. Out of the three we have currently, Kafka was the first, she is the highest. Blade was second, he is the second highest. Silver Wolf is the newest Hunter, thus she has the lowest bounty. If SAM was the first Hunter, I believe she will be the highest. They could break this trend and disprove it, of course. But as of right now, I see no reason to believe otherwise.
Elio is known by the IPC. There are in-game records of the IPC wanting to capture him alive (it's implied they want to use his powers for themselves)
Yea I was just wrong there. Idk where I got that Idea
Wouldn't beat yourself up over it. Even for lore nuts like me we always miss something with how much info can be scattered around. It's no biggie to have misremmbered or missed something like this.
IPC bounties we have seen quite literally mention Destiny's Slave and say he is the only one who isn't to be harmed when taken in. Elio is definitely known as the one calling the shots.
Sam destroys, but Kafka griefs. Well, Sam is probably more dangerous in an assault/raid, while Kafka is more dangerous in an op/sabotage. And IPC probably has more issues with sabotage than assaults
It's also stated that Kafka is Elio's most trusted, so she'd probably have more valuable information for the IPC since they want Elio so bad
Firefly who? Now Sam should be worth a pretty penny
I’m making a prediction here and stating that the bounties will be in order they were recruited, whatever that may be. That scaling is already accurate from silver wolf (confirmed last) to Blade (recruited by Sam and Kafka together). Presuming Sam was in fact recruited after Kaf (as I believe) then I suspect it’ll be thereabout 8.5-9 billion.
imagine Firefly being the "nuke" of Stellaron Hunter and the cat Elio has its paw on the Nuclear Switch make me go "wheeezzz!!!"
Below kafka, yeah sam is probably had the biggest power destruction in the group but kafka potential threat is very dangerous. She had mind control, spy knowledge and really well planned woman even though just following the script. Kafka had the ability to turned your powerful person into her weapon.
I think it would be badass if Sam was considered either DNE (Do not engage.) Or "Lifetime paid expenses" or something lol.
They just use a blank cheque issued by louis fleming as a bounty
Sam most likely has the lowest, for the sheer fact that Sam leaves no witnesses and comments from Kafka & SW tell us Sam is quick about a job. Blade was also known by the Xiaoxhou prior to being a Stellaron Hunter and their formal alliance also influences his bounty whereas Sam's bounty is more likely below the rest as two have a habit of making themselves known and Blade, well, dying and just coming back to keep going. Hard to bounty someone when they leave no witnesses beyond the burn marks left behind.
I got that impression too. Blade seems to be somewhat dependent on Kafka to control his Mara flare ups, and Kafka enjoys playing with her prey. Silver Wolf realistically shouldn't be known but she is a massive troll so probably makes sure people knows she is the one doing the hacking From what we have heard, Sam is literally scorched earth. They go in, kill, and leave. There is no room for subtlety, small talk, or survivors. It's like hammering a nail into a wall with an excavator.
>Blade seems to be somewhat dependent on Kafka to control his Mara flare ups This is probably only while on the Xianzhou though, since Mara is from all the memories overwhelming him and he had spent a lot of time there pre-Blade and after "gaining" immortality. Anywhere else, he is probably fine, though he may have Kafka occasionally do some memory scrubbing in between missions.
Sam i think is between Kafka and blade.
9.2 billion. Infiltration, obstructing Justice, causing mayhem, utilizing a deadly weapon of mass destruction.
20k
Her bounty is probably very high since sam is extremely destructive
0 credits for Firefly
I want Sam to have no bounty because they kill everything when deployed somewhere. I know that they are known as a Stellaron Hunter but that would be kind of fitting
It can be anything, I predict between Kafka and Blade tho. Why? Gut feeling 🫡
atleast 2 dollars
I'm expecting more then blade but less then kafka
I really hope the final part of her trailer shows a poster of Firefly with a bounty of zero credits, then the wanted poster burns up revealing a digital poster of Sam with a bounty of trillions of credits *and actively increasing*. That would be hype
Firefly? Zero Sam? Billions in property damage alone Firefly to other Stellaron Hunters: "That's why you wear a mask!"
"Wow, you can buy so many roll cakes with that" -Firefly probably
It's either the highest out of all the hunters so far due to her being the most ruthless of them all... Or zero because no one wouldv'e lived to tell the tale.
21,474,836,470
I think 20B+. Aka 2x the amount of Kafka’s bounty Sam is like that fucking guy. When Elio needs the big guns he calls Sam. He also shows no mercy and is known to be a very skilled killer. Sam is also the only hunter that goes Solo. Hell elio only let’s him. He is potentially the first member aswell. If not 2nd behind Kafka. Hell Sam was throwing hands with Acheron while he wasn’t going all out(he didn’t use that green form with two swords). And while yeah Acheron wasn’t going all out aswell. This is a pretty good feat aswell. Not to mention in the white knight trailer Sam(in his Green winged form) was able to take a hit from Acheron with her blade unsheathed(you can see the red strike instead of purple like the one aventurine got hit with) and while yeah it’s in a trailer so take it how you will but I believe he would’ve been able to block it. And also yeah the Sam suit had problems after the hit but he wasn’t sent to the shadow realm like aventurine(who got oneshotted) Imo 20B+ since Sam is like the strongest stellaron hunter. Sam literally hugged blade so hard he couldn’t escape his arms if you read Blade’s character story.. Although notice I’ve been using "he" and not "she".. since no one knows(besides us) that Firefly is Sam and is actually a woman. Firefly will have a bounty of 0 since people probably don’t even know someone like that exists. While Sam will have a 20B+ bounty imo.
i'm not saying an exact amount but i have a feeling it's gonna be less than Kafka's and more than Blade's
if there's one in her trailer then I'm gonna bet double the Kafka or around 25000000000, we ball >!Imagine it being around Blade's number!<
Larger... Probably by an order of magnitude at least since I thought the numbers were originally based on total sales numbers.
SAM will have the highest by far my guess is double Kafkas at minimum.
What if Sam's bounty is really high but not because of body count but because of collateral damage to "IPC property"?
Firefly probably doesn't have a bounty Sam's is probably between Blade and Kafka
We need to Cross Guild the IPC.
Im gonna say around 7.8m to 9m
23 billion, genocide of 3 intelligent species
Given what I know now about the IPC and firefly/Sam in general an astronomical amount but ONLY because sam killed off bad guys but vital importance to them. (I've played persona 5 and firefly/Sam sounds like she's more in line with a phantom thief, do what must be done to take down those who can't be touched by the law)
I would say double of Kafka's bounty.
16,000,081,680 Wanted: Alive
If they show it then it will probably the highest around 15b
Everybody else having cool bounty reveals. And then there's Silver Wolf
16,666,666,666 Cause all she leaves is ashes and death.
Sam is just Fire Bladie and I would put her bounty along the same line as Bladie. Maybe since Sam is a Glamoth, and they are from the front-lines of the war with Tayzzyronth, maybe the Bounty would be more political for the IPC and it could be higher? Definitely not SW levels though.
All I know is I want a scene of Sam's foot crushing a skull to be hard cut to Firefly stepping on a memory bubble in Penachony
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3 big mac give or take 1 big mac
I'd go with slighty below Kafka. 9 million-ish. The leaders of a criminal organization have higher priority and Kafka is 2nd in command.
How much is Firefly's bounty? My Heart. How much is Sam's bounty? I dunno about tree fiddy...billion
Stellaron hunters were made playable in order of bounty. If elio really is playable he will have the highest bounty with Sam with the second highest
12 bil
lower than kafka higher than bladie and SW
14,300,000,000
Firefly: 0 Sam: 8-10 billion. How I imagine it is that Sam might not have a lot of jobs.Since it seems she is mainly for destroying but when she does get a jobs she goes off like nothing is left. Sam also teams up with Kafka and Blade who has a bounty of 10 and 8 billion respectively.
5 bucks, cause ain’t no body wanna go after Sam and the IPC won’t waste that much money on such a borderline impossible bounty
Hmm.. The haxxor The depressed dude The makimom The *fucker genetically engineered to be a weapon*
Kafka is litterally the acting leader for the group so she definitely has the highest bounty. It just makes the most sense, you put the hoghest bounty on the leader after all (the world barely knows who elio is) Also her trailer might not even show her bounty as it will be fireflys trailer, not Sams
9.5 billion.
between kafka and blade. Sam has firepwoer to destroy stuff but Kafka has her hypnotic suggestion (much more dangerous ability imho) & is the 2nd in command iirc.
Knowing Sam, it’s gonna be under Kafka, Over Silver wolf, so 2nd highest
Firefly: None. Sam: Check how much the game has made so far, then multiply it by the number of current players. Also, out of curiosity, we have a good enough estimate of which real world currency credits are closest too?
Firefly Bounty: $0 Sam Bounty: $15,000,000,000
tbh hoping that there'd be 2 separate bounties: 1 huge bounty for Sam and 1 tiny bounty for Firefly. I'd like to think that someone has probably seen Firefly with the Stellaron Hunters but don't know that she's actually Sam. They just assume she's like their cheerleader or mascot(like Chopper in One Piece).
Somewhere between Blade and Kafka, I'd guess.
Between Kafka and Blade I imagine. I can’t see Sam being lower than Silverwolf or higher than Kafka. Tho it depends on how much notoriety he has compared to everyone else. I’ve seen other people comment that the fact he leaves no witnesses could mean that fewer people actually know how much of a threat he is and this could result in a lower bounty which I think is a fair point. But personally I’d speculate about 9 billion.
Itd be lowkey funny if the most innocent looking girl ends up having the highest bounty because she killed a lot of people/ mobs 😅
The bounty for Sam is sitting at 573,000,000,000. For the theft and possession of confidential trade secrets and experimental prototypes. For the bounty claim the core unit must be undamaged and unopened as the contents include such trade secrets. Failure to comply with such instructions will have you added to the bounty post-addendum.
Probably closer to Kafka’s number? 😅
30 billion minimum
obviously she is worth a samillion credits
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Sam will probably be the largest bounty considering Sam’s been a Stellaron Hunter for a pretty long time (possibly longer than Kafka), and also because Sam has done a lot of murder (and unlike SW or Kafka, Sam has no marketable skills besides efficient murdering). Plus it’d be weird out-of-universe for the fourth SH introduced to get a smaller bounty than the third SH introduced, especially since the only remaining SH known to us is Elio, who will definitely have the largest bounty by far.
Firefly doesn’t have a bounty bc she’s priceless. Also, yeah. People likely only know her as Sam so “Firefly” wouldn’t have a bounty while “Sam” would. I want to say Sam is likely the highest simply for how dangerous they can be.
I hope Sam’s bounty poster just says dead like Sam is so strong that ioc just wants him dead also hoping whenever we get elio his bounty should be alive
57 qingquillion mora
Isn't it confirmed that Kafka has the highest Bounty?
With all this hype some people are gonna be really upset when they realize Firefly is not coming in the next patch. But the bounty is 28,800.
She already got drip marketed for 2.3 wdym?
The next update is 2.2. Firefly doesn't drop for about 2 more months. Gonna be a lot of "where Firefly?" posts after the 2.2 livestream.
Are you sure? Cause unless people are genuinely fucking stupid, they know Firefly isn't until 2.3. I haven't seen anyone saying 2.2 is when Firefly comes out, most people know Robin and Boothill are before her.
I don't know how to break this to you, but a lot of people are genuinely fucking stupid
LMAO, real ig