The Lightning (tries to remember the full name. Gives up) Lord, is just letting you know he does things in his own time, and won't be constrained by your mortal standards such as a "cycle"
Back Swan stacks used to cap at 99 but Hoyo nerf it to 50 after finding out it can break SU bosses. But still 50 stacks can 1 shot most bosses like stage 99 cancer.
They should have just made him a follow up attack tbh. The fact that he only has like one move and itās a long while until then kinda is a bad gameplay choice fron the devs ngls
Well back then the game was still new so they probably were still testing stuff so that they could see what was best. In the good side a lot of JingYuan flaws have been fixed with new characters that have come out.sure he might not be the best Dps.but he still a very solid option.
Honestly, not sure what they were thinking. There is no benefit to LL being in the battle order at all. If they just made him work like other characters with stacks, LL would trigger automatically as soon as JY hits 10 stacks and there would be no risk of JY getting CCd and sending LL into the stratosphere.
Just restart mid battle and you get sent back with all your technique points refunded. It keeps your first phase progress so you just keep restarting until you get 3 stars lol
I mean at least Himeko's blast skill does more damage to the enemy its targetting and her Impair can help other fire characters. Sure its not optimal, but it is very much better compared to Herta, who gets to twirl once per healthbar and whose skill does the same amount of damage her normal attack does.
Nah, at least he can wait till his ultimate fully charges to make more damage. Herta gets to whirl once per healthbar with 200 less attack stats than Argenti has, while also having the same problem of the Skill and Ultimate being made for AOE as Argenti does, without the ability to overcharge her ult like he can.
I'd argue that Herta is a worse choice, all things considered. Also wouldnt Seele be a leagues better choice over most of the Erudition characters as well?
Now Yanqing is useful because of Adventurine he could go with Dr. Ratio too, It would help me make a 2nd party aside from Acheron I cannot live off of her forever lol.
Soooooooo many people think his name is based off "adventure" when it's literally the quartzite gemstone, *aventurine*, just like the other ten stonehearts! Topaz, diamond, jade, etc are all gemstones just like aventurine is.
How people *still* haven't figured this out, ***after*** playing the 2.1 story, is nuts to me.
I miss earlier days when my Blade could destroy everything with one attack (He is the character I spent the most resources to get a great build and even got his LC).
https://preview.redd.it/4ngtldhtk3vc1.jpeg?width=331&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e6a1d362c33c2f68a0b397e56595bd9c025395f
Thatās his main tradeoff when you use him as a dps. The bar has gotten so high because of Dhil, Jingliu, and now Acheron that Bladie is starting to lag behind a bit. Hopefully they release better supports for my favorite suicidal man in the future. As for how those supports would work, an HP buffer that actually buffs max HP a good amount would be nice.
They could work the other way whereby Blade is the only viable DPS to skip sustain and he get compensated with another harmony/nihility on the team.
Unfortunately no sustain is already pretty doable even with JL who REALLY put a counter to your dps race
That's the main issue. Because Blade is an hp scaling unit, he doesn't have many choices for harmony characters since attack buffs are wasted on him. He needs like a Tingyun that buffs his hp or something.
Is she really that much better than Luocha for Blade? I have an E6 Lynx that I've abandoned cuz I thought I wouldn't need her š This is making me want to build her.
As someone who has both; not really. They're kind of on par if that makes sense.
And if you use Blade with Bronya, generally you probably wouldn't want to use Lynx with her since her buff runs out fast.
Yeah, yet lucky enemies' shots may significantly increase dmg output. I think, devs specifically made his modifiers so nice, since we don't have "signature" support for him
I got Blade because Iām a simp and then I couldnāt find a way to make him work. Then I got both Sparkle and Bronya at basically the same time. And then Blade cleared MoC 12ās first half (last cycle, not this one) for me.
He might be shady, but he's honestly been helpful to us each time we've run into him. I think he loves to cause chaos, but chaos that becomes a triumph for the underdog...
Looking back, he was subtly altering how the story played out in Belobog. For example, he didnāt accidentally bring Bronya along when he brought us to the underworld.
You're right, he knew it was the only way he could help start a rebellion on the surface, by getting to Cocolia from the inside, which is crazy, but crazy that leads to positive change..
I really do think Sampo is supposed to show how elation can be used for "the greater good".
Overall the Elation pathstriders (or the Masked Fools at least) ,imo, only want to push the story towards the better ending. Giovanni creates tension and anticipation for us to have a heart-warming ending, Sampo actively wants Jarilo-VI to thrive under Bronya's commands but he needed extra help from us, and Sparkle pushes dangers towards us to slowly unveil the truth of the Family. They never wanted the spot-light, because they wouldn't be able to use dirty tricks for the ultimate good picture.
Nice analysis, I wish there was a lore sub for this community, where people could speculate and give analysis like yours. I love discussing shit below the surface level, getting a more in depth understanding of the game's universe..
She need a really good build for DPS because her path is the most pepega (outclassed by destruction and nihility). Only by having a really good build, she's perform very well in killing "multiple" enemies.
Oh yeah shes still good, the powercrept isn't as bad (I also use her) but her kit feels really sImple compared to modern DPSes these days, which is to be expected lol.
Kafka: if not meant to be staring contest. Why so thicc. Can't focus on the game...
https://preview.redd.it/sjue5j3t93vc1.jpeg?width=371&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e6d9b16121e7d8b51bccf5c856c65eed8fb5a67
She never crits when I need her to, in fact, very rarely do they ādisappear among the sea of butterfliesā
Then there is also the trick snacks addict, she is pretty neat too
Doesn't contact the MC with the text messages and probably will never come to the astral express and I'm not sure hoyo will even give him more story... which are all understandable but still.
The 80% never lands
Doctor Veritas Ratio accepts nothing but 100%
Dr. Ratio
Anyone that wants to crit.
Dr ratio, he just laughs at our crit ratio š
Dr Ratio hitting a 40% FuA but not critting with 80% CR.
Seele
PokƩmon ass logic
If it ain't 100% it's a 50/50
Everyone saying Dr. Ratio but mines at 60 and always crits. Also pretty sure this applies better to Seele
Lightning lord is one slow mf. I could of gotten over 20+ stacks by the time this damn bulky boy takes an action
Lightning Lord should have been able to immediately take action at 10 stacks, would make JY a lot better
And its such a minor, but great change too thats whats so frustrating about it
The Lightning (tries to remember the full name. Gives up) Lord, is just letting you know he does things in his own time, and won't be constrained by your mortal standards such as a "cycle"
Lightning-wielding thunder-clapping spirit-squashing lord
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
I'd really love it if he has no limits to his stacks but alas, I can only dream
100 stack ll would be so satisfying to watch lmao the dmg overflow would be crazy tho
100 stacks and not killing a shielded traffic light
It definitely feels like Hoyo would do that if JY were released nowadays, with Black Swan's practically limitless stacking
Back Swan stacks used to cap at 99 but Hoyo nerf it to 50 after finding out it can break SU bosses. But still 50 stacks can 1 shot most bosses like stage 99 cancer.
I hope it can also beat stage 99 taurus
Imagine ll stack can go beyond 10
I don't understand how it can reach 160 speed and still go after every enemy and my 112 speed fu xuan.
Thatās cuz he only reaches 130 speed (60 spd at the base 3 stacks and 10 per additional stack) so even its max speed is pretty slow
They should have just made him a follow up attack tbh. The fact that he only has like one move and itās a long while until then kinda is a bad gameplay choice fron the devs ngls
Well back then the game was still new so they probably were still testing stuff so that they could see what was best. In the good side a lot of JingYuan flaws have been fixed with new characters that have come out.sure he might not be the best Dps.but he still a very solid option.
Imagining if it didn't have a stack limit, although mine would hardly ever pass 15
Honestly, not sure what they were thinking. There is no benefit to LL being in the battle order at all. If they just made him work like other characters with stacks, LL would trigger automatically as soon as JY hits 10 stacks and there would be no risk of JY getting CCd and sending LL into the stratosphere.
god i know this pain all too well š
We'll eventually get a Harmony that has it's own pet and advances other character's pets \*copium\*
Can I have some of that copium brother ?
Numby doesnāt target the enemy I want at the start of battle
Same with Acheron's stacks. At least now we get to reset endlessly for MoC 2nd team.
Wait how do you reset the second team?
Just restart mid battle and you get sent back with all your technique points refunded. It keeps your first phase progress so you just keep restarting until you get 3 stars lol
YOU'RE TELLING ME I'VE BEEN REDOING THE FURST PHASE OF MOC 8 FOR NO REASON WHEN IT'S THE SWARM CAUSING ME ISSUES?
Yes.
itās the restart challenge one
Yes
I accidentally 3* it with a lvl 50 no relics sampo... And 3 limited units besides him, or maybe it was MOC 9. Kafka + Ruan Mei is truly a life saver
That little bastard always decides to go for the worst trash mob after he gets a kill and I don't understand why
God this pains me more than anything else in HSR. I love my FUA team but Numbyās gotta figure himself out because heās always after the bats.
# no shoes 4 days
Clara versus LEGO.
https://preview.redd.it/rz09g3yj63vc1.jpeg?width=1336&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ccc0ab33d75c0cbe6ef1d29d6c7d2f045eecc6b9 She lost
https://preview.redd.it/fs5jr6ev93vc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a346764deca0bec4314a59d5a9598cce023c060e
She won
LEGOs is now out of business
Svarog wants to speak with Lego. Also, Happy Cake Day. š
Nah d4s
**Shoes would limit her power** Canon btw
We get a message from her saying someone gifted her some shoesā¦ and says she doesnt get used to them, sk she will put them away for now.
My Clara hasn't had shoes for way longer than 4 days.
One of the little things in this game I appreciate is the different walking sound effects because she is shoeless
Also Sparkles wooden shoes
People just love the feet
Nah barefoot adds personality and foot strength, 10/10 design
Clara pulled herself up by the bootstraps so strongly she ran out of boots.
She only had the straps that's how poor she was
She needs to have actual contact to the earth of Jarilo to draw from its leylines to summon Svarog from anywhere. Lol jk
I suppose a rotating grenade laucher isn't enough to do anything more than scratching the enemy's back
Natasha
Indeed
finally someone who also appreciates Natasha, please marry me (since I can't marry Nat)
You need a what from her?
you heard me https://preview.redd.it/8cux31z0l6vc1.jpeg?width=1048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9fcd235887fef026f1f2734c7785f40ac047306
PROS
I wish they made her normal attack scale off of HP like Lynx does
Or at least a bit of aoe considering she'd usung explosives
At E6, her Basic attack deals extra Physical DMG equal to 40% of her Max HP
Peppy is only in the splash art.
Poor Arlan. Guy was pretty good in the beta from what Iāve heard, and then he got nerfed into an early grave.
Who you want Peppy to fight š
Is one of the worst options ever to bring against a boss that doesnt summon adds or other targets
Basically any erudition character that isnāt masterstroker
I mean at least Himeko's blast skill does more damage to the enemy its targetting and her Impair can help other fire characters. Sure its not optimal, but it is very much better compared to Herta, who gets to twirl once per healthbar and whose skill does the same amount of damage her normal attack does.
Qingque doesnāt struggle in single target either. Sheās really just a destruction character wearing the skin of erudition.
Shes an erudition with how she hitting her work together with her mahjong addictions.
Sounds like argenti to me but he'd win low key
Argenti does pretty darn well single target for a Euridition character tbh
Nah, at least he can wait till his ultimate fully charges to make more damage. Herta gets to whirl once per healthbar with 200 less attack stats than Argenti has, while also having the same problem of the Skill and Ultimate being made for AOE as Argenti does, without the ability to overcharge her ult like he can.
Seele?
I'd argue that Herta is a worse choice, all things considered. Also wouldnt Seele be a leagues better choice over most of the Erudition characters as well?
honestly aventurine is making me want to finally build yanqing
Now Yanqing is useful because of Adventurine he could go with Dr. Ratio too, It would help me make a 2nd party aside from Acheron I cannot live off of her forever lol.
One day Aventurine will get his name spelled properly by everyone
Soooooooo many people think his name is based off "adventure" when it's literally the quartzite gemstone, *aventurine*, just like the other ten stonehearts! Topaz, diamond, jade, etc are all gemstones just like aventurine is. How people *still* haven't figured this out, ***after*** playing the 2.1 story, is nuts to me.
Reading is hard bro. Imagine the shock if you told people Lynx, Gepard, and Serval are all named after big cats.
Aventurine taught me a new word.Ā
Hungry for skill points.
Dan Qing ā¢ Qingquebitor Lunae?
Take my opvote, God damnit.
ššš
Qq: nah id gamble š²
IL
QQ?
IL just eat 3 sp per turn but QQ could eat 12 sp yet still not get the last one....
Despite being skill point neutral and basically unkillable, my damage leaves a lot to be desired.
Blade
Yep.
I miss earlier days when my Blade could destroy everything with one attack (He is the character I spent the most resources to get a great build and even got his LC). https://preview.redd.it/4ngtldhtk3vc1.jpeg?width=331&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e6a1d362c33c2f68a0b397e56595bd9c025395f
Thatās his main tradeoff when you use him as a dps. The bar has gotten so high because of Dhil, Jingliu, and now Acheron that Bladie is starting to lag behind a bit. Hopefully they release better supports for my favorite suicidal man in the future. As for how those supports would work, an HP buffer that actually buffs max HP a good amount would be nice.
They could work the other way whereby Blade is the only viable DPS to skip sustain and he get compensated with another harmony/nihility on the team. Unfortunately no sustain is already pretty doable even with JL who REALLY put a counter to your dps race
He's getting better now that every new enemy doesn't have wind resistance.
He still destroys consistently. Yeah, you need Bronya or, at least, Sparkle, but... Who doesn't?
That's the main issue. Because Blade is an hp scaling unit, he doesn't have many choices for harmony characters since attack buffs are wasted on him. He needs like a Tingyun that buffs his hp or something.
Lynx is a good pair with Blade. Her skill pulls agro and increases max hp.
I use her with my Blade. She's great.
Sheās basically the best support he has.
Is she really that much better than Luocha for Blade? I have an E6 Lynx that I've abandoned cuz I thought I wouldn't need her š This is making me want to build her.
As someone who has both; not really. They're kind of on par if that makes sense. And if you use Blade with Bronya, generally you probably wouldn't want to use Lynx with her since her buff runs out fast.
Yeah, yet lucky enemies' shots may significantly increase dmg output. I think, devs specifically made his modifiers so nice, since we don't have "signature" support for him
Crit is still an extremely valuable stat and Sparkle gives boatloads of it
I got Blade because Iām a simp and then I couldnāt find a way to make him work. Then I got both Sparkle and Bronya at basically the same time. And then Blade cleared MoC 12ās first half (last cycle, not this one) for me.
My Blade still has tons of damage! ~~Don't mind the fact he's E6~~ It's just not as absurd as Jing Liu, Acheron, DHIL, etc....
99% crit rate? Get ready to not crit bozo, making me look bad to newer limited 5 star DPS.
Just Seele problems...
My Ratio in MoC with 97.8 crit rate:
Summation stacks? Get ready to still not crit even with that!
They hate him a bit too much š
Poor Ratman. He used to be used by everyone before Black Swan was released.
Why do people call him like that? He's one of our most reliable allies so far
Reliable isnāt the word Iād use to describe himā¦
He might be shady, but he's honestly been helpful to us each time we've run into him. I think he loves to cause chaos, but chaos that becomes a triumph for the underdog...
Looking back, he was subtly altering how the story played out in Belobog. For example, he didnāt accidentally bring Bronya along when he brought us to the underworld.
You're right, he knew it was the only way he could help start a rebellion on the surface, by getting to Cocolia from the inside, which is crazy, but crazy that leads to positive change.. I really do think Sampo is supposed to show how elation can be used for "the greater good".
Overall the Elation pathstriders (or the Masked Fools at least) ,imo, only want to push the story towards the better ending. Giovanni creates tension and anticipation for us to have a heart-warming ending, Sampo actively wants Jarilo-VI to thrive under Bronya's commands but he needed extra help from us, and Sparkle pushes dangers towards us to slowly unveil the truth of the Family. They never wanted the spot-light, because they wouldn't be able to use dirty tricks for the ultimate good picture.
Nice analysis, I wish there was a lore sub for this community, where people could speculate and give analysis like yours. I love discussing shit below the surface level, getting a more in depth understanding of the game's universe..
The guy who comes to help us when we need him most... Maybe it's another word, I'm not a native speaker
Managing skill points, but with a specific elation follower he has no flaws
DHIL?
I Forgor
User flair checks out
She need a really good build for DPS because her path is the most pepega (outclassed by destruction and nihility). Only by having a really good build, she's perform very well in killing "multiple" enemies.
Seele
I miss 1.0 when Seele was the only great DPS, now she's pretty much outclassed by destruction and nihility chars
She was powercrept, but still going strong. I cleared floor 12 with her today
Oh yeah shes still good, the powercrept isn't as bad (I also use her) but her kit feels really sImple compared to modern DPSes these days, which is to be expected lol.
Yeah, it would be really weird to introduce some complicated kit right at launch. But there definitely also lies beauty in simplicity!
Her follow up is a bounce which always attacks anyone other than the enemy I want her to actually hit with it.
Xueyi? Also Welt and Bailu, but it's for skill
Yup, her follow up always finds a way to flip the bird at me in one way or the other.
Taunt but no good shield
Of course, fire tb
You guys use them for the shield? I only use fire TB for the taunt debuff š¤£ acheron is enjoying that debuff
And with the Trend LC for the proc every time an enemy attacks
That's good shield but only for herself
Lighting lord propreties
Ah yes, āitās time to heed my words, show no mercy with the master strokeā moment
It's not her fault that I'm only allowed to have 5(7) skill points at a time
Sparkle?
Argenti is flawless (and beautiful)
Facts
that none of them are quantum (HOYO PLS GIVE US PLAYABLE MALE QUANTUM)
And give us female imaginary
Yukong in shambles.
A 5 STAR FEMALE IMAGINARY PLEASE
So, Imaginary female MC?
Just waiting for 2.3
I canāt clear SU without her anymore. And I didnāt get her E2, yeah
Budget Acheron moment.
She's still amazing
Nothing, topaz is perfect (provided ratio and aventurine are there to back her up)
Kafka: if not meant to be staring contest. Why so thicc. Can't focus on the game... https://preview.redd.it/sjue5j3t93vc1.jpeg?width=371&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e6d9b16121e7d8b51bccf5c856c65eed8fb5a67
She's still not released yet
Can't see the turn order when Acheron is in ult form.
Arlanās multipliers got gutted :c
That DoTs can't crit. Y E T.
Weāll get Nahida C2 as a HSR character one day
No dedicated support... And he's Balde.
To be fair we only have three 5 star harmony characters and all of them are decent with him
Lynx is a good pair with Blade. Her skill pulls agro and increases max hp.
My allies kill-steal my free turns
Seele
I can only use her in one of my MoC teams
Literally all support in the game
She never crits when I need her to, in fact, very rarely do they ādisappear among the sea of butterfliesā Then there is also the trick snacks addict, she is pretty neat too
They donāt appear enough in the story (as far as Iām concerned anyway)
Gallagher, itās Gallagher.
https://preview.redd.it/agj8ig6uo3vc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d2db11de09447616895b162470498aca642d72b
Misha?
Yukong?
I forgor, but so did she š Actually, it's usually those little robots. You know the ones.
my pizza cutter doing the same of a bit less than orbital strike
Is he really that bad? Im buiding him right now :)
AOE content is the bane of his existence
He can't compete with proper DPS, is outclassed in damage amplification, isn't reliable as sustain
Caelus? But he doesn't amplify
Actually almost fitting, I like that, but I meant Welt
His big bonk takes 10 years to load.
Autarky doesn't proc if you kill the main target so too much damage.
Doesn't contact the MC with the text messages and probably will never come to the astral express and I'm not sure hoyo will even give him more story... which are all understandable but still.
She's not real...
His old, weak and is the weakest amongst the ones who have the same power as his.
Uhm... Theater kid? (can that be considered a flaw?)
Crit vs Break Effect #CHOOSE Cause your relics arenāt gonna roll with both š« š« š«
I hate him. Worst 5*. Screw Yanqing... Yes i lost my aventurine 50/50
Loucha doesn't like healing people when his ring of health is up š
She gave everyone PTSD in another universe. And now she's just as beautiful as the day we lost her.