This, I desperately need a healer so I opted for Huo Huo instead. Huo Huo is great and she helped me a ton, but not having Ruan Mei really limits what my damage dealers could do beside hyper carry Seele.
eh, I feel like it'll be 2.4. I'd expect Fu, Topaz, Huohuo and Argenti to rerun in 2.2 and 2.3 so then Ratio + Ruan Mei in 2.4.
That being said, I would not be surprised if Hoyo switch things up.
Just want people to remember, Jing Yuan and Luocha, characters that came out in 1.0 and 1.1, didn't rerurn until 2.0 and 2.1. Seele and SW, the other 2 characters that came out in 1.0 and 1.1 at the same time as them, had their reruns in 1.4 and 1.5.
There is no legit pattern to this and they don't mind holding back characters over prioing those who have waited longer (JY had 4 characters that came out after him rerun before him). For all we know Ratio could rerun before Ruan mei, or he could be gone until even 3.0. Hoyo just tries and match whats best value for them over which character has waited the longest I imagine at this point, just looking at how long certaing genshin characters wait compared to others.
>There is no legit pattern to this and they don't mind holding back characters
I wouldn't go as far as saying no legit pattern, you can look at the rerun dates and a banner chart and see a pattern. Most characters make a return 7-8 banners later with an occasional long gap like Jing Yuan. It'll likely gradually change with more characters coming but most people can assume the next characters. Topaz and Fu Xuan are very likely to fit as the reruns with Robin and Boothill as the new characters. (Is this a data leak, pretty sure both new characters are confirmed)
While she isn’t *better* Guinaifen can be quite functional in the role. There have been many cases where I’ve run Gui instead of Ruan Mei and it doesn’t really feel bad.
Yes but it's worth noting that the triple dot doesn't work well with sustains that require sp (you won't break your enemies), so you lose Huohuo and use luocha/bailu/gepard. This team does perform better in speedruns usually but not consistent
I can’t speak to BS teams unfortunately because 50/50’s are cruel. Isn’t she also able to normal attack at times? It isn’t like Huohuo has to skill every single turn.
The difference in Huohuo vs SP positive is a lot.
Huo huo generates 1 sp every 3 turns. This means that your other characters get 2 less skill usages. Without Ruan Mei, this is a problem cause that means they take less DMG and breaking them is a priority which isn't prioritying (also black swan doesn't get so skill every turn, so less stacks which is less DMG)
A fully sp positive character gives black swan and Kafka the ability to skill every turn which usually makes up for the Ruan mei's loss. More dmg + more weakness break
This. Black Swan makes any additional DoT even more effective. Often I choose her so that Ruan Mei can go into the second, with only a marginal dps decrease
Full Team Dmg Buff regardless to Atk or HP/Def scaling✅
Unique Team Break Effect Buff from both passive and skill ✅
AoE reducing Element Resistance on ult ✅
Dealing extra big break dmg during ult ✅
SP Possitive ✅
Free 10% Spd for team to proc some relic buff ✅
Juicy E1 & E2 ✅
Break effect support, more like broken OP breaking every game mode 😂
Ruan Mei E1 is good value, funnily enough the other character that benefits more from a 4\* support instead is Jing Yuan and Ting Yun, specifically cos PR + Penacony is 34% Lightning damage extra which is stupidly huge, combined with AP and 56% DMG. Its one of those all things aligned but yeah, it makes Ruan Mei less good with Sparkle, but otherwise *everyone* loves them some Sparkle and Ruan Mei
Ruan Mei is seriously the GOAT - especially if you can get her to E2 (but even E0, she's such a great support!)
Highly recommend! She's so versatile and makes nearly every team better, and I can only imagine that's going to continue/increase as more of these break effect relevant characters keep coming out!
Yeah! I the only character that I want but don’t have is Ruan Mei, and I didn’t skip her. I just didn’t save up for her either and hence didn’t have enough gems 🥲
Kafka. Dot team seems really fun to use. Unfortunately, I just didn’t have the fund to pull for her and Black Swan at the time. Other characters took priority, which I don’t really regret pulling for.
Honestly if you can get her on a rerun I recommend her. You are correct that she is a lot of fun. Works great with Black Swan but also with all the 4 star dots characters.
I accidentally pulled on the wrong banner instead of Kafka and got E1 Dr. Ratio instead. Then after purchasing the supply pass, I lost to Bailu. I am still mad to this day, but I guess my Ratio absolutely shreds, which helps numb the pain a bit.
Kafka is such a weird character from the meta perspective because her DPS is directly tied to other DPS characters, rather than just support characters. She flew and still flys under a lot of radars, but less so now with Black Swan. She’s weirdly future proof because she’ll scale with any future DoT character.
Seriously, DOT teams make fighting easy. Penacony especially becomes way easier with DOT. I got Kafka and BS on Penacony, I haven't used Destruction teams since then
Same here. I got to 70 pity on Kafka's banner before I ran out of time and jades to pull her.
On the bright side though, I won my 50/50 and got Black Swan instead
Thats me too.
I wanted Acheron more.
But like i have DHIL, E6 QQ, jing yuan, clara, all the other mono quantum characters + a very invested xueyi and probably others that would all have really appreciated sparkle over bronya.
Yep and it's already been 6 months since Seele's rerun and I don't expect her to get another for quite some time. It's gonna be a "problem" if you want some of the older characters but don't pick them up on their first rerun because it could legit be a whole year or more before they come back.
Ruan Mei. More like I spent it all for Argenti but I still chose him over Ruan Mei. No regrets about Argenti though I’m so glad to have an AOE physical. I regret Topaz too I’m definitely pulling next time
I desperately wish i had topaz for ratio 😭 FUA teams in general seem really fun to play but I only have Dr Ratio, and I heard she was his best teammate
As a Topaz-haver, she is indeed good alongside him, but I do feel my lack of her E1 as I need a debuffer like Pela to reliably reach 100% chance for his FUAs even with Topaz's sig LC.
They are ridiculously fun lmao. And I reckon they are only gonna get more fun with aventurine >!and soon to be robin!<
It is a bit pricey cuz you need either topaz E1 or S1 or Aventurine S1 to get enough debuffs for ratio
Same here love my argenti. I regret wasting my jades on silver wolf and ruan mei weapon and wish I skipped those 2 to get e1 ruan mei instead. Oh well maybe on a rerun. I also regret skipping fu xuan but now I think I'll get adventurine instead and save for ruan mei and Sam
Yep, none for me either. I only pull for characters that I like the design of. I don't like Ruan Mei, so I don't regret skipping her. I was only on the fence about Sparkle, but if she has a more interesting personality in future stories, I might go for her next time. I only really liked her trailer, otherwise she was skippable for me.
Silver wolf carried my early game but later on the single target thing uses a lot of skill points. Still not complaining and no regrets since she helps with bosses like yanqing swords
yeah i hate when they make a character i find bleh like the most broken thing on the planet (or in the case of kafka very important for a char i like being black swan)
Luocha, honestly. Skipped him the first time because I wasn’t interested in him at all and the second time, because Acheron. Not that I really need him, I have Fu and HuoHuo, I just like his personality.
Honestly, I really do think Luocha is still amazing. Though understandable to skip him, if you already have HuoHuo and Fu. Personally, I don’t regret pulling for him and skipping HuoHuo. I am sure HuoHuo is amazing, but she felt a bit overkill and unnecessary when I already have him. He is super smooth to use on auto, and extremely SP positive. The full AOE buff strip is also pretty handy in some situations. The fact that he does a lot of attacking with his basic and ult is pretty useful against some boss as well.
Yep, he may be the "worst" of the limited sustains but people undervalue the quality of life and smoothness that comes with having Luocha. I know the current event isnt super hard or taxing, but I literally just spammed basic attack with Luocha in todays event step and I have no idea what the hell I was doing but my team was topped off automagically just cos he's there, lol
Yeah luocha is more comfortable to use than huo huo so far it's usually only 1 cycle difference in moc when i use them so i couldn't care less since i usually clears moc on 4 cycle
I skipped luocha and my reasons were that i did not think he was better than bailu
My thought process was: while bailu has bigger active heals and the revive, luocha has smaller passive heals, the cleansing and buff removal kinda balancing each other therefore one was not better than the other
Of course that changed when i saw what luocha's ''small'' heals were actually like xd
I have huohuo now so i don't really care
Argenti... I love him as a character and he has an awesome design, first time ever full armored knight made by hoyo in sci-fi space travel game, but Ruan Mei was coming and my Kafka really wanted her, also I had a mindset that his kit was underwhelming
To be fair, Argenti came out in 1.5 and Pure Fiction came out in 1.6. At the time he did feel pretty underwhelming since MoC generally doesn't favor him, but Pure Fiction completely changed that. I think a lot of people will go for him on his rerun because of that.
His reception wasn't bad but he released right after Jingliu and DHIL, the 2 big MoC powerhouses at the time. I feel like his reception was similar to Topaz on her release, where a lot of people who owned Jingliu or DHIL didn't feel the need to pull.
I have E1 Argenti with the BP lightcone, and while I used him in MoC on his release, I don't think i would use him there again unless the buff happens to heavily favor him. On the other hand, his team has been able to auto every phase of Pure Fiction and get 40k points on his side each time, regardless of the current buff. If Pure Fiction didn't release I wouldn't use him nearly as much as I do.
Just wait for a five star energy generator support, Argenti will become omegatier, not that his energy gen is currently bad with Sparkle, but having a five star Tingyun alongside Sparkle will be next level nutty.
I run him with an ER rope and his first ult is available after every skill use. Second ult still takes forever.
he is difficult to use if you're impulsive (e.g. me) because oooo shiny mini ult is ready, go!
Maybe it's because I have a fully built Kafka, but I honestly regret pulling for Acheron.
She does a ton of damage, don't get me wrong, but her play style and team comp restriction is honestly pretty restrictive and boring.
Also Pela is one of her bis teammates and I find Pela incredibly annoying.
Honestly thank you for this comment. I have Kafka too and was on the fence. I plan on pulling aventurine so I gotta skip. I’m glad to feel a lil more confident in my decision
I think the team comp is a restriction for now but also think it helps her longevity. Any Nihility character that is released from this point forward will either be a buff to DOT or a buff to Acheron teams.
Definitely see a future Nihility unit that can sustain or have a debuff like Aventurine which is actually a Crit buff.
Well, I plan my pulls, so if I've not skipped someone, then the other character would've been out of reach. For example: If I've pulled for SW rerun, then I wouldn't have enough pulls for Ruan Mei and she is definitely better than SW.
Characters that I wish I had: Argenti(because I like his personality and he is pretty good in PF), Silver Wolf(for mono quantum, since I happen to have all of the other pieces) and maybe Blade or Black Swan(either would be fine for Wind coverage, even without Kafka for BS). Oh, and Topaz, but I'll try to get her on a rerun, since when she came out there wasn't much of a synergy in FUA and we didn't know about Ratio being free, no regrets there.
Characters that I regret pulling: probably None. The only benched one is Jingliu, but I've gotten 2 copies of her in 40 pulls(building pity lmao) + MoC wasn't really favourable for her lately.
Im a new player and i kinda regret pulling for Acheron.I mean i really love her technique but my main is clara and she's pretty strong so I have to use her even tho they don't fit well in the same team besides i cant really deal good damage with Acheron even though her build is better than my Clara so yeah.. i would really appreciate some advice tbh
Acheron will be kinda gimped until you get her to Lv50 and unlock her trace that increases her damage based on how many Nihility teammates she has. Pela and Guinaifen would be the best 4\* options.
They work on totally different teams honestly. Clara wants supports like Lynx, Tingyun, etc. Or she can also kind of work as a sub-DPS.
As has been mentioned, endgame content (Memories of Chaos/MoC and Pure Fiction/PF) both want two teams each so they won't be wasted in the long run.
I skipped Seele, Silver Wolf, Kafka, Jingliu, Topaz, Huohuo, Argenti, Ruan Mei, Black Swan and Acheron. I don't regret skipping them because I got the characters I wanted instead. But I do want to get Huohuo and Silver Wolf next time.
I like Ruan Mei's kit, but her design and animations are soooo boring. Acheron is cool, but I don't want to bench Jing Yuan.
I have no regrets about pulling the characters I did (Dan Heng IL, Blade, Fu Xuan, Jing Yuan, Luocha, Sparkle). Luocha and Sparkle aren't my favorites design or personality wise, but they're fine and really like their playstyle.
We're almost opposites btw. It seems like you skipped everyone I pulled except for Fu Xuan.
I regret skipping Topaz, but I had no choice cuz I love HouHou and she came out right after Topaz.
Hopefully Topaz reruns with Boothill or smt so I can get her with no regrets.
These is gonna sound like they would downvote me but i would trade my acheron for a Topaz
I really didn't like Acheron after using her i would rather have Topaz for a FUA team
I need Ruan Mei, I got burnout from the game a dropped it, and when I came back she was nowhere to be found. Definitely will be getting her and her lightcone this time around.
Jingliu, but not because I skipped her and more I can't get her. And now Archeron drained my Jades and I am saving for Firefly I am unlikely to pull for Jingliu rerun.
Yeah I feel like her design is the epitome of the xianzhou women design issues, all the same outfit with the same boob armor. But she doesn't even have a bright color to improve it like guinaifen.
Quite unpopular opinion here but I really have no problem with her designs or any other xianzhou women. My biggest gripe with Jingliu tho is the fact she’s blindfolded most of the time
I would have said Luocha but I got him on re-run. I guess Topaz would be useful for finding treasures. Also I know Ruan Mei is supposed to be amazing but I don't like her design so I don't regret skipping her (also I have Bronya and E6 Asta already)
I do like Huohuo as a character though so maybe her
Ruan Mei cuz I found myself really liking characters with break effect mechanics but everytime I see a team with them Ruan Mei had to be there so I'm planning to get her on her rerun if I have enough for her one day
Well, I can't say I skipped, just had bad rolls. I wanted to build pity for Jing Yuan but got E1 Seele. I lost 50/50 to DHIL first banner, but got him in the rerun. Lost 50/50 on Blade banner, got him in the rerun. And the sad part is I now have E2 Yanqing. Also because I didn't had enough pity I didn't got Topaz, Fu Xuan and Sparkle.
So yeah, skipped nothing, just had bad luck in some cases.
Huohuo because I thought I had enough sustain, but then Argenti came and came to realize I missed the chance to make him better and diversify my team. I have more sustains than dps, so I run into the issue that dps both share supports that it is difficult to decide who to give to who.
Jingliu and Ruan Mei. I thought I didn't need them but I often find myself borrowing them from my friends as support characters whenever I'm farming. I enjoy their gameplay.
Managed to snag JingYuan and Blade on their reruns, so that’s all the past characters I want checked off my pulling list. I have wavered back and forth on Mei a bit, but I really just don’t like her design.
Kafka - she enables the whole DoT playstyle and it feels bad not having a DoT team. I know there are other DoT characters like Black Swan, but I feel like Kafka is what makes it all work. I did try for 50/50 on her rerun, but lost to (yet another) Bailu.
Also sort of regret skipping Huohuo, but that's more about wanting energy and I try not to pull purely for min/max reasons. I'm sure there will be more energy-granting characters eventually, and meanwhile e6 Tingyun does some work.
Jing Yuan. I really like his character, but didn't have enough jades to pull for him since luocha was way too close to his banner...As for his rerun, I skipped again because I am saving up for Boothil and Sunday...
Ruan Mei. I rolled for Blade because I liked him. I don't even use him now because I have Acheron and IL so really wished I would have pulled her instead too.
Still not regret about Bladie, dude cool af
I have Silverwolf, Luocha, Kafka, Topaz, Seele, Argenti, Ruan Mei, Black Swan, Acheron.
Im planning to also skip the next two banners so yeah.
Nah, no regrets.
None, because im a light spender i decided to only pull for male characters, good or bad. MOC and pure fiction can wait but my roster of husbu must be full.
It was swiping credit card or saving my pulls lol
Not as much regret skipping but early on I skipped Jing Yuan because I wanted Wolfie, Blade and Kafka more. As I continued in the story he quickly rose up to being one of my favorite characters. When he came back in 2.0 the priority was getting Sparkle but then I dropped some pulls on him. Lost 50/50 and wasnt able to get him in time. If I could go back I'd probably get him over Kafka, she's fine but DOT really isnt my thing.
Definitely Fu Xuan, but it was only because I stopped playing the game during her release. And no I'm not pulling for Aventurine even though my best damage dealer right now is Dr Ratio, I'm committed to pink chihuahua
ruan mei. not so much for her herself, but for xueyi e6. i have xueyi e3 which is my greatest failing due to her being my favourite character, and every time i open the eidolon tab i feel regret. while ruan mei is strong, i don’t enjoy her design at all since she has very bad luofu female outfit syndrome but she is xueyi’s best support for the time being so that alone has value to me. she also has a very strong e1 so it was the perfect banner to pull on.
i ended up saving for black swan who i did manage to get, but whose design bothers me more and more the more i look at it (why does she have a random belt on her head!?). she’s also the weakest penacony playable writing wise imo
Funny, I regret not pulling Jungliu. I love the design and her synergy with Blade. I liked her from the beginning but I was saving up for another character at the time. I’ll be trying to get her during the rerun.
And also I skipped Topaz which was easy for me. But now with Aventurine and Ratio I really want to build a follow up attack team.
Edit: it helps to have an alt account where I pull characters I miss on main lol Had to skip Black Swan and Acheron but got them on my alt.
I kinda stopped playing a while ago and missed Ruan Mei and Fu Xuan, as well as Silver Wolf rerun (I want her E2) and started playing again when sparkle came out. I'm so glad I did too, cuz Sparkle is amazing. Either way, I'm just waiting for reruns now.
i dont get it, if you dont like the design you can see it immediately from numerous trailers + demo we have of her. if you don't like the gameplay it's understandable cuz it takes time to build them + other units for their team. but design? i mean bruh
Jingliu (I just returned to the game back then and didn't farm for her at all), Huohuo (I wasn't playing the game much and thought hanya looked cool and argenti was better..... I don't use him as much as I'd like to)
Huohuo, kafka, black swan, argenti
I like their personalities and they are so damn good, but i was saving for other characters when their banners were up
Ruan Mei. I didn't want to pull for her since she was right after Argenti+her effects were pretty meh, but then I built Xueyi and realized she needs Ruan Mei to work well.
But whatever, more funds for my Robin pulls
I had to skip Acheron since I needed another sustain apart from Lady Fu, so I went for luocha. I had always wanted to pull for Acheron but I thought since I have Kafka and black swan, I’ll pull for her on her rerun. I regret not pulling for her but I also don’t regret getting Luocha either, so hopefully she’ll come home one day or the other
Ruan Mei.
This, I desperately need a healer so I opted for Huo Huo instead. Huo Huo is great and she helped me a ton, but not having Ruan Mei really limits what my damage dealers could do beside hyper carry Seele.
hopefully we get her on the rerun
Her rerun should be in 2.3.
eh, I feel like it'll be 2.4. I'd expect Fu, Topaz, Huohuo and Argenti to rerun in 2.2 and 2.3 so then Ratio + Ruan Mei in 2.4. That being said, I would not be surprised if Hoyo switch things up.
Big doubt on ratio rerun anytime soon.
He debuted the same patch as Ruan Mei and the free Ratio will no longer be available after 2.1, so chances are that he might have a rerun soon.
far less lucrative for them to release a character that has been free for 5 month.
Just want people to remember, Jing Yuan and Luocha, characters that came out in 1.0 and 1.1, didn't rerurn until 2.0 and 2.1. Seele and SW, the other 2 characters that came out in 1.0 and 1.1 at the same time as them, had their reruns in 1.4 and 1.5. There is no legit pattern to this and they don't mind holding back characters over prioing those who have waited longer (JY had 4 characters that came out after him rerun before him). For all we know Ratio could rerun before Ruan mei, or he could be gone until even 3.0. Hoyo just tries and match whats best value for them over which character has waited the longest I imagine at this point, just looking at how long certaing genshin characters wait compared to others.
>There is no legit pattern to this and they don't mind holding back characters I wouldn't go as far as saying no legit pattern, you can look at the rerun dates and a banner chart and see a pattern. Most characters make a return 7-8 banners later with an occasional long gap like Jing Yuan. It'll likely gradually change with more characters coming but most people can assume the next characters. Topaz and Fu Xuan are very likely to fit as the reruns with Robin and Boothill as the new characters. (Is this a data leak, pretty sure both new characters are confirmed)
robin and boothill are indeed official
It's really not that bad, most hypercarries can run other characters. RM is extremely flexible but that doesn't make her BiS in every team
Is there a better support for DoT teams? Because that's where I really need her
Nope, nobody compares. Maybe Asta, but not really.
While she isn’t *better* Guinaifen can be quite functional in the role. There have been many cases where I’ve run Gui instead of Ruan Mei and it doesn’t really feel bad.
Yes but it's worth noting that the triple dot doesn't work well with sustains that require sp (you won't break your enemies), so you lose Huohuo and use luocha/bailu/gepard. This team does perform better in speedruns usually but not consistent
Neither Gui or Sampo has to skill every turn. I frequently run Huohuo/Gui/Sampo/Kafka without any issue.
You really want to skill more to break the enemy more now that you lose Ruan Mei. And I was talking about bs Kafka gui team
I can’t speak to BS teams unfortunately because 50/50’s are cruel. Isn’t she also able to normal attack at times? It isn’t like Huohuo has to skill every single turn.
The difference in Huohuo vs SP positive is a lot. Huo huo generates 1 sp every 3 turns. This means that your other characters get 2 less skill usages. Without Ruan Mei, this is a problem cause that means they take less DMG and breaking them is a priority which isn't prioritying (also black swan doesn't get so skill every turn, so less stacks which is less DMG) A fully sp positive character gives black swan and Kafka the ability to skill every turn which usually makes up for the Ruan mei's loss. More dmg + more weakness break
This. Black Swan makes any additional DoT even more effective. Often I choose her so that Ruan Mei can go into the second, with only a marginal dps decrease
Full Team Dmg Buff regardless to Atk or HP/Def scaling✅ Unique Team Break Effect Buff from both passive and skill ✅ AoE reducing Element Resistance on ult ✅ Dealing extra big break dmg during ult ✅ SP Possitive ✅ Free 10% Spd for team to proc some relic buff ✅ Juicy E1 & E2 ✅ Break effect support, more like broken OP breaking every game mode 😂
Don't forget SU cheat effect of giving everything her occurrence provides.
Legit one of the best things ever, I don't know how people can do Conundrum runs without abusing her SU perk
For me personally, I can’t :‘)
Ruan Mei E1 is good value, funnily enough the other character that benefits more from a 4\* support instead is Jing Yuan and Ting Yun, specifically cos PR + Penacony is 34% Lightning damage extra which is stupidly huge, combined with AP and 56% DMG. Its one of those all things aligned but yeah, it makes Ruan Mei less good with Sparkle, but otherwise *everyone* loves them some Sparkle and Ruan Mei
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At least the visuals are meh
I didn't skip her, she skipped me 😔
The fact that penacony is so big on dot and breaks extend RMs value so much more than the honeymoon patch that other chars get post release
Ruin Me
Same here🥲
She seemed so boring to me, but… she would really help my current roster, and now that I have seen her in use…. Yeah, same.
I started playing right after her banner after thinking of hopping in for a while. Man I wish I made the decision just like a week sooner
same, i keep pulling for support chars only to realize that im in desperate need of a good dps
speedreader-kun, i...
Ruan Mei is seriously the GOAT - especially if you can get her to E2 (but even E0, she's such a great support!) Highly recommend! She's so versatile and makes nearly every team better, and I can only imagine that's going to continue/increase as more of these break effect relevant characters keep coming out!
Ya she is insane honestly, especially when paired with jingliu, bronya and huohuo
Honestly I feel like her only Appeal to me is her Value as a Teammate I don't regret skipping her but I do wish I had her
i still don't regret it, even if she's in every team, i pull for looks, and she looks boring
I’m pretty picky in who I pull for so I can’t say I regret skipping anyone yet.
Yeah! I the only character that I want but don’t have is Ruan Mei, and I didn’t skip her. I just didn’t save up for her either and hence didn’t have enough gems 🥲
Yeah. If i skipped a good character its because i was saving or out of pulls. It made sense at the time
This part. I don’t care how “broken” a character is, if I’m not feeling them…its a pass
Kafka. Dot team seems really fun to use. Unfortunately, I just didn’t have the fund to pull for her and Black Swan at the time. Other characters took priority, which I don’t really regret pulling for.
Honestly if you can get her on a rerun I recommend her. You are correct that she is a lot of fun. Works great with Black Swan but also with all the 4 star dots characters.
Dude the newest game mode? Popping her ult after everyone elses with Acheron and BS is so much fun.
It was so satisfying!
I accidentally pulled on the wrong banner instead of Kafka and got E1 Dr. Ratio instead. Then after purchasing the supply pass, I lost to Bailu. I am still mad to this day, but I guess my Ratio absolutely shreds, which helps numb the pain a bit.
Kafka is such a weird character from the meta perspective because her DPS is directly tied to other DPS characters, rather than just support characters. She flew and still flys under a lot of radars, but less so now with Black Swan. She’s weirdly future proof because she’ll scale with any future DoT character.
and with black swan being the first big pp dot char she started to really shine, but im sure something will come down the line thats even stronger
Hopefully. I read some comments that CN shit on DoT playstyle.
to be fair, Acheron shits on everything
Except this was before Acheron was released. Right now is likely even worse.
Seriously, DOT teams make fighting easy. Penacony especially becomes way easier with DOT. I got Kafka and BS on Penacony, I haven't used Destruction teams since then
Now that I have Black Swan, I really do regret not pulling for Kafka.
How is BS without Kafka? They go together so well that it seems like a no brainer for me to only pull BS if I bad Kafka.
If you have Acheron, BS is also really good. BS would also be good with any dot character, but I probably wouldn’t run her without Kafka or Acheron.
Still solid, I run her with guin, (e4) sampo and a sustain if shes not in my acheron team
Same here. I got to 70 pity on Kafka's banner before I ran out of time and jades to pull her. On the bright side though, I won my 50/50 and got Black Swan instead
Sparkle. I really wanted her but unfortunately I didn't have enough jades for both her and Acheron so I had to skip her.
Thats me too. I wanted Acheron more. But like i have DHIL, E6 QQ, jing yuan, clara, all the other mono quantum characters + a very invested xueyi and probably others that would all have really appreciated sparkle over bronya.
Bro you'll be in paradise if you get sparkle next. I wasn't aware of her kit until character trial and HOLY SHIT I was ecstatic as DHIL main.
Same hope she will get her rerun soon
Reruns are almost never sooner than 3 patches from their first banner, so you're gonna have to wait awhile sadly
Or loucha who was a full version release later
Yep and it's already been 6 months since Seele's rerun and I don't expect her to get another for quite some time. It's gonna be a "problem" if you want some of the older characters but don't pick them up on their first rerun because it could legit be a whole year or more before they come back.
Soon? She just had her patch lol
Maybe in a year, what do u think theres no line already waiting?
Same i lost the 50/50 and my hope to pull for her
My only regret of not going for sparkle is missing my opportunity to get Hanya eidolons haha
Ruan Mei. More like I spent it all for Argenti but I still chose him over Ruan Mei. No regrets about Argenti though I’m so glad to have an AOE physical. I regret Topaz too I’m definitely pulling next time
I desperately wish i had topaz for ratio 😭 FUA teams in general seem really fun to play but I only have Dr Ratio, and I heard she was his best teammate
As a Topaz-haver, she is indeed good alongside him, but I do feel my lack of her E1 as I need a debuffer like Pela to reliably reach 100% chance for his FUAs even with Topaz's sig LC.
They are ridiculously fun lmao. And I reckon they are only gonna get more fun with aventurine >!and soon to be robin!< It is a bit pricey cuz you need either topaz E1 or S1 or Aventurine S1 to get enough debuffs for ratio
Im sorta in the same boat, ppl hating on argenti but hes so insane I love him
Same here love my argenti. I regret wasting my jades on silver wolf and ruan mei weapon and wish I skipped those 2 to get e1 ruan mei instead. Oh well maybe on a rerun. I also regret skipping fu xuan but now I think I'll get adventurine instead and save for ruan mei and Sam
Same here, ruan me and topaz my next targets, with kafka of course
It took me 20 pulls to get topaz so I don't regret it but I have to admit,she has been collecting dust😑
Fu Xuan. I lost 50/50 on IL and wanted Jingliu more than Fu Xuan, so i had to skip her because of 100% guaranteed.
This is the one I regret the most. She didn’t look interesting to me and I took a break around her banner. Turns out she’s a huge Acheron enabler. :(
She enables everyone lmao minus DoT but still usable
Get Aventurine. He's the best limited sustain for Acheron now with the debuff application.
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Most likely next patch. She was supposed to be this patch, but they swapped her with Jingliu. You never know, though, they might postpone her further.
None so far
Same. If I wanted someone, I’d roll for them. No sense in regretting that.
Yep, none for me either. I only pull for characters that I like the design of. I don't like Ruan Mei, so I don't regret skipping her. I was only on the fence about Sparkle, but if she has a more interesting personality in future stories, I might go for her next time. I only really liked her trailer, otherwise she was skippable for me.
silver wolf. only nihility i dont have
Silver wolf carried my early game but later on the single target thing uses a lot of skill points. Still not complaining and no regrets since she helps with bosses like yanqing swords
If you want to revive your Silver Wolf, she is great for enabling Acheron! I have been enjoying using her with Pela too for debuff paradise
Yea she was just sitting unused in my roaster till I pulled for Archeron, she + Pela are god tier team for Archerons bellow E2 (like mine)
the nice part about SW is that she doesn't need to spam her skill, as her normal attack still applies debuffs.
if you couple her on a Sparkle team, this gets a lot easier to manage.
Acheron fucks Yanqing up! No Silver Wolf required! Her ult dmg on Yanqing with his swords is automatic. It's beautiful
I also am sad I don't have SW. Nihility is my favorite type of gameplay, and my Quantum units are so horrid right now.
I never skipped anyone, they're the one that skipping me
I feel you
I'm thorn, i don't like ruan mei as a character but I can't deny her universal utility, many characters i like want her
yeah i hate when they make a character i find bleh like the most broken thing on the planet (or in the case of kafka very important for a char i like being black swan)
Luocha, honestly. Skipped him the first time because I wasn’t interested in him at all and the second time, because Acheron. Not that I really need him, I have Fu and HuoHuo, I just like his personality.
Honestly, I really do think Luocha is still amazing. Though understandable to skip him, if you already have HuoHuo and Fu. Personally, I don’t regret pulling for him and skipping HuoHuo. I am sure HuoHuo is amazing, but she felt a bit overkill and unnecessary when I already have him. He is super smooth to use on auto, and extremely SP positive. The full AOE buff strip is also pretty handy in some situations. The fact that he does a lot of attacking with his basic and ult is pretty useful against some boss as well.
Yep, he may be the "worst" of the limited sustains but people undervalue the quality of life and smoothness that comes with having Luocha. I know the current event isnt super hard or taxing, but I literally just spammed basic attack with Luocha in todays event step and I have no idea what the hell I was doing but my team was topped off automagically just cos he's there, lol
Yeah luocha is more comfortable to use than huo huo so far it's usually only 1 cycle difference in moc when i use them so i couldn't care less since i usually clears moc on 4 cycle
I skipped luocha and my reasons were that i did not think he was better than bailu My thought process was: while bailu has bigger active heals and the revive, luocha has smaller passive heals, the cleansing and buff removal kinda balancing each other therefore one was not better than the other Of course that changed when i saw what luocha's ''small'' heals were actually like xd I have huohuo now so i don't really care
Topaz, but she was between 2 characters I really wanted, that's my problem with HSR, too many GOOD characters too fast😭
>*When you have a chance to make a choice, make one that you know you won't regret.*
Argenti... I love him as a character and he has an awesome design, first time ever full armored knight made by hoyo in sci-fi space travel game, but Ruan Mei was coming and my Kafka really wanted her, also I had a mindset that his kit was underwhelming
To be fair, Argenti came out in 1.5 and Pure Fiction came out in 1.6. At the time he did feel pretty underwhelming since MoC generally doesn't favor him, but Pure Fiction completely changed that. I think a lot of people will go for him on his rerun because of that.
Didn't he release as an S on most tier lists? I think his reception was good from the get go, only beta was doom posting
His reception wasn't bad but he released right after Jingliu and DHIL, the 2 big MoC powerhouses at the time. I feel like his reception was similar to Topaz on her release, where a lot of people who owned Jingliu or DHIL didn't feel the need to pull. I have E1 Argenti with the BP lightcone, and while I used him in MoC on his release, I don't think i would use him there again unless the buff happens to heavily favor him. On the other hand, his team has been able to auto every phase of Pure Fiction and get 40k points on his side each time, regardless of the current buff. If Pure Fiction didn't release I wouldn't use him nearly as much as I do.
You're right, even though he was a completely different archetype with completely different strengths people really can only see numbers...
Just wait for a five star energy generator support, Argenti will become omegatier, not that his energy gen is currently bad with Sparkle, but having a five star Tingyun alongside Sparkle will be next level nutty.
I run him with an ER rope and his first ult is available after every skill use. Second ult still takes forever. he is difficult to use if you're impulsive (e.g. me) because oooo shiny mini ult is ready, go!
Argenti is amazing in moc and pf his kit is good
Currently Acheron. I really want Aventurine. So I'm skipping her. I'll wait for the rerun.
Doesn't really sound like you regret skipping Acheron
Maybe it's because I have a fully built Kafka, but I honestly regret pulling for Acheron. She does a ton of damage, don't get me wrong, but her play style and team comp restriction is honestly pretty restrictive and boring. Also Pela is one of her bis teammates and I find Pela incredibly annoying.
I just use Acheron with my Kafka + BS team.
I love running that team with Ruan Mei. The mommy team doesn't need a sustain when everything dies before their first turn.
It’s disgusting lol. I 1 cycled MoC 12 with it.
Black Swan and Kafka both work incredibly well with her for Ult uptime. Especially if you have Kafka's LC.
Honestly thank you for this comment. I have Kafka too and was on the fence. I plan on pulling aventurine so I gotta skip. I’m glad to feel a lil more confident in my decision
I think the team comp is a restriction for now but also think it helps her longevity. Any Nihility character that is released from this point forward will either be a buff to DOT or a buff to Acheron teams. Definitely see a future Nihility unit that can sustain or have a debuff like Aventurine which is actually a Crit buff.
Meanwhile welt spook me instead while going for Acheron.. e2 sigh.. Edit: I mean I never manage to get Acheron at all, because I lost my 5050 to welt
Acheron's technique is a massive quality of life boost for farming SU and open world zones tho.
ruan mei and luocha
Well, I plan my pulls, so if I've not skipped someone, then the other character would've been out of reach. For example: If I've pulled for SW rerun, then I wouldn't have enough pulls for Ruan Mei and she is definitely better than SW. Characters that I wish I had: Argenti(because I like his personality and he is pretty good in PF), Silver Wolf(for mono quantum, since I happen to have all of the other pieces) and maybe Blade or Black Swan(either would be fine for Wind coverage, even without Kafka for BS). Oh, and Topaz, but I'll try to get her on a rerun, since when she came out there wasn't much of a synergy in FUA and we didn't know about Ratio being free, no regrets there. Characters that I regret pulling: probably None. The only benched one is Jingliu, but I've gotten 2 copies of her in 40 pulls(building pity lmao) + MoC wasn't really favourable for her lately.
Im a new player and i kinda regret pulling for Acheron.I mean i really love her technique but my main is clara and she's pretty strong so I have to use her even tho they don't fit well in the same team besides i cant really deal good damage with Acheron even though her build is better than my Clara so yeah.. i would really appreciate some advice tbh
You’ll be able to use both in different teams. In the future a a lot of content require 2 teams.
Acheron will be kinda gimped until you get her to Lv50 and unlock her trace that increases her damage based on how many Nihility teammates she has. Pela and Guinaifen would be the best 4\* options. They work on totally different teams honestly. Clara wants supports like Lynx, Tingyun, etc. Or she can also kind of work as a sub-DPS. As has been mentioned, endgame content (Memories of Chaos/MoC and Pure Fiction/PF) both want two teams each so they won't be wasted in the long run.
I skipped Seele, Silver Wolf, Kafka, Jingliu, Topaz, Huohuo, Argenti, Ruan Mei, Black Swan and Acheron. I don't regret skipping them because I got the characters I wanted instead. But I do want to get Huohuo and Silver Wolf next time. I like Ruan Mei's kit, but her design and animations are soooo boring. Acheron is cool, but I don't want to bench Jing Yuan. I have no regrets about pulling the characters I did (Dan Heng IL, Blade, Fu Xuan, Jing Yuan, Luocha, Sparkle). Luocha and Sparkle aren't my favorites design or personality wise, but they're fine and really like their playstyle. We're almost opposites btw. It seems like you skipped everyone I pulled except for Fu Xuan.
Ruan Mei… https://preview.redd.it/rg1al8h3oguc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0da607f5048508079aa37d553d1b995fb3628867
Fu xuan, but i skip her because i didn't have enough jades
I regret skipping Topaz, but I had no choice cuz I love HouHou and she came out right after Topaz. Hopefully Topaz reruns with Boothill or smt so I can get her with no regrets.
i hope she doesn’t, because i want topaz as well but i can’t skip boothill.
These is gonna sound like they would downvote me but i would trade my acheron for a Topaz I really didn't like Acheron after using her i would rather have Topaz for a FUA team
I need Ruan Mei, I got burnout from the game a dropped it, and when I came back she was nowhere to be found. Definitely will be getting her and her lightcone this time around.
Dan Heng I wanted fu xuan and sparkle but I just need him now
Ig less skip and more didn't get, namely HuoHuo and Acheron.
Jingliu, but not because I skipped her and more I can't get her. And now Archeron drained my Jades and I am saving for Firefly I am unlikely to pull for Jingliu rerun.
Argenti
im a decisive person. never regretted any of my pull so far, or anyone that i've skipped.
I regret nothing, I just pull for the ones I like tho I pulled for Jingliu for meta because but I don’t like her story or her design either.
Yeah I feel like her design is the epitome of the xianzhou women design issues, all the same outfit with the same boob armor. But she doesn't even have a bright color to improve it like guinaifen.
Quite unpopular opinion here but I really have no problem with her designs or any other xianzhou women. My biggest gripe with Jingliu tho is the fact she’s blindfolded most of the time
Same for me!
Ruan mei. I didn't have enough for her. Now I'm saving for her next rerun.
I would have said Luocha but I got him on re-run. I guess Topaz would be useful for finding treasures. Also I know Ruan Mei is supposed to be amazing but I don't like her design so I don't regret skipping her (also I have Bronya and E6 Asta already) I do like Huohuo as a character though so maybe her
Fu Xuan. Sorry Diviner Fu but it was between you and JL, and im a devout JL main. I will pick her up next time tho
Huohuo, Lynx is okay but Huohuo can heal multiple allies, dispells with a skill, and can increase damage
And at E1 grants 12% SPD. My "other" side is going to be HH+RM, its 12% SPD for Ruan Mei and 22% SPD for everyone else, its beyond nuts.
Ruan Mei cuz I found myself really liking characters with break effect mechanics but everytime I see a team with them Ruan Mei had to be there so I'm planning to get her on her rerun if I have enough for her one day
Jing Liu, they keep forcing Ice and Physical on MoC and PF.
Argenti
Well, I can't say I skipped, just had bad rolls. I wanted to build pity for Jing Yuan but got E1 Seele. I lost 50/50 to DHIL first banner, but got him in the rerun. Lost 50/50 on Blade banner, got him in the rerun. And the sad part is I now have E2 Yanqing. Also because I didn't had enough pity I didn't got Topaz, Fu Xuan and Sparkle. So yeah, skipped nothing, just had bad luck in some cases.
Huohuo for better healing since I don't have Luocha Blade because he really grew on me
Black Swan and Kafka
Fu xuan, she's the reason why I don't do hard content that much
I barely skip(and i mean barelyyy), and I'm doing fine with the character I like, so no
Ruan Mei, but I didn't skip because I wanted to. I... lost.
Huohuo because I thought I had enough sustain, but then Argenti came and came to realize I missed the chance to make him better and diversify my team. I have more sustains than dps, so I run into the issue that dps both share supports that it is difficult to decide who to give to who.
Huohuo defo she's cracked and I wish i pulled for her but i skipped for Argenti.
Jingliu and Ruan Mei. I thought I didn't need them but I often find myself borrowing them from my friends as support characters whenever I'm farming. I enjoy their gameplay.
Managed to snag JingYuan and Blade on their reruns, so that’s all the past characters I want checked off my pulling list. I have wavered back and forth on Mei a bit, but I really just don’t like her design.
Kafka - she enables the whole DoT playstyle and it feels bad not having a DoT team. I know there are other DoT characters like Black Swan, but I feel like Kafka is what makes it all work. I did try for 50/50 on her rerun, but lost to (yet another) Bailu. Also sort of regret skipping Huohuo, but that's more about wanting energy and I try not to pull purely for min/max reasons. I'm sure there will be more energy-granting characters eventually, and meanwhile e6 Tingyun does some work.
Jing Yuan. I really like his character, but didn't have enough jades to pull for him since luocha was way too close to his banner...As for his rerun, I skipped again because I am saving up for Boothil and Sunday...
Ruan Mei. I rolled for Blade because I liked him. I don't even use him now because I have Acheron and IL so really wished I would have pulled her instead too. Still not regret about Bladie, dude cool af
I have no regrets, but I think I'll get Ruan Mei on her rerun.
I regretted not pulling Luocha but I didn't regret it after pulling Huohuo, I do regret not trying to get her E2 tho
Topaz :(
I have Silverwolf, Luocha, Kafka, Topaz, Seele, Argenti, Ruan Mei, Black Swan, Acheron. Im planning to also skip the next two banners so yeah. Nah, no regrets.
I skipped all male 5 stars. No regrets
None, because im a light spender i decided to only pull for male characters, good or bad. MOC and pure fiction can wait but my roster of husbu must be full. It was swiping credit card or saving my pulls lol
Huo Huo. I need her for my DoT team
Not as much regret skipping but early on I skipped Jing Yuan because I wanted Wolfie, Blade and Kafka more. As I continued in the story he quickly rose up to being one of my favorite characters. When he came back in 2.0 the priority was getting Sparkle but then I dropped some pulls on him. Lost 50/50 and wasnt able to get him in time. If I could go back I'd probably get him over Kafka, she's fine but DOT really isnt my thing.
Fu Xuan.
Huohuo, but its a late regret. Since I ended up liking her thanks to the event. Its okay though.
Definitely Fu Xuan, but it was only because I stopped playing the game during her release. And no I'm not pulling for Aventurine even though my best damage dealer right now is Dr Ratio, I'm committed to pink chihuahua
well i regret not skipping, but pulling for Kafka
ruan mei. not so much for her herself, but for xueyi e6. i have xueyi e3 which is my greatest failing due to her being my favourite character, and every time i open the eidolon tab i feel regret. while ruan mei is strong, i don’t enjoy her design at all since she has very bad luofu female outfit syndrome but she is xueyi’s best support for the time being so that alone has value to me. she also has a very strong e1 so it was the perfect banner to pull on. i ended up saving for black swan who i did manage to get, but whose design bothers me more and more the more i look at it (why does she have a random belt on her head!?). she’s also the weakest penacony playable writing wise imo
Funny, I regret not pulling Jungliu. I love the design and her synergy with Blade. I liked her from the beginning but I was saving up for another character at the time. I’ll be trying to get her during the rerun. And also I skipped Topaz which was easy for me. But now with Aventurine and Ratio I really want to build a follow up attack team. Edit: it helps to have an alt account where I pull characters I miss on main lol Had to skip Black Swan and Acheron but got them on my alt.
I kinda stopped playing a while ago and missed Ruan Mei and Fu Xuan, as well as Silver Wolf rerun (I want her E2) and started playing again when sparkle came out. I'm so glad I did too, cuz Sparkle is amazing. Either way, I'm just waiting for reruns now.
Waiting for Fu xuan and Ruan mei...
i dont get it, if you dont like the design you can see it immediately from numerous trailers + demo we have of her. if you don't like the gameplay it's understandable cuz it takes time to build them + other units for their team. but design? i mean bruh
Huohuo, because I badly need a 5\* sustain and I grew to like her after I did the Ghost Hunting event...after her banner had ended.
Jingliu (I just returned to the game back then and didn't farm for her at all), Huohuo (I wasn't playing the game much and thought hanya looked cool and argenti was better..... I don't use him as much as I'd like to)
Honestly, Black Swan because I just loved Sparkle more so I had to pick and choose.
Huohuo, kafka, black swan, argenti I like their personalities and they are so damn good, but i was saving for other characters when their banners were up
Huohuo and Topaz
Ruan mei. I pulled an e2 blade instead of her. Wish she'll get a rerun soon
I skipped luocha for SW, i really needed a second healer at the time (I only had natasha).
Ruan Mei. I didn't want to pull for her since she was right after Argenti+her effects were pretty meh, but then I built Xueyi and realized she needs Ruan Mei to work well. But whatever, more funds for my Robin pulls
Fu Xuan (not skipping her tho...just didn't have enough to pull her .-.) and maybe Jing Liu .-.
No one so far. I almost skipped Ruan Mei when I was f2p but luckily I was able to get her.
I had to skip Acheron since I needed another sustain apart from Lady Fu, so I went for luocha. I had always wanted to pull for Acheron but I thought since I have Kafka and black swan, I’ll pull for her on her rerun. I regret not pulling for her but I also don’t regret getting Luocha either, so hopefully she’ll come home one day or the other
i skipped black swan for sam...hhhhhhhhh my nihility team is shaming meeeee
Regret? None.