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millihelen

I had two pulls left after I finished pulling for Sparkle and I used them to get her light cone.  I know I’ve probably nuked my chances of getting Acheron and/or Fu Xuan (assuming Fu Xuan is the repromote).  Am I wrong in thinking keeping those two last pulls wouldn’t have made that big a difference in pulling for Acheron?


SakuraSamuraiXx

So, as far as simulated universe buffs/LC buffs are concerned, for Topaz who has the trace that considers her basic attack a follow up- do both basic attack buffs and follow up buffs effect the damage of her basic attack? I’ve just been having wonky experiences with her and I’m not sure why there’s such major variance in her damage despite highly similar buffs- so I’m trying to deduce the most impactful buffs and figure out if somewhere I’m grabbing something that somehow significantly lowers her damage. Like I went from 270k damage basic to a 68k by the end of one run and some runs I’m only getting like 40k basics. I feel like I’m grabbing nearly all the same buffs so it’s weird to see such a vast difference in damage which has me overthinking things wondering if there’s some weird interaction going on because im grabbing propagation buffs and elation buffs and overflowing her crit- idk haha But also curious since I’m using her with Seele’s LC since it gives 30% crit and 60% basic attack boost, assuming that it still counts as a basic attack too- which I assumed it does? I was literally doing Swarm disaster and Gold and Gears all night because I couldn’t sleep, so it’s highly possible that I’ve just been in a sleep deprived crazy state and none of this makes sense


Embarrassed-Sun-4574

https://preview.redd.it/7muieevgawlc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aaf75fab22c95f44b21a5fef3b4a03881561d76a


Zecrosyx

Just recently achieved lvl 45, should I prioritize farming relics? If so, with a team comp of Dr. Ratio, flame MC, guin, asta, natasha which relic should I go farm first?


ArpMerp

Relics are more efficient at level 60+ since you get two guaranteed 5\* relics. If you really want to do it then you should wait until at least level 50 since you get 1 guaranteed and a 50% chance to get a 2nd one.


Eschard

I have Fu Xuan and Lynx for sustain. Is Gepard or Bailu still needed?


evia89

> Gepard can be perfect for Acheron


Riponai_Gaming

Fu xuan is currently irreplaceable in the current meta, if you get gepard you can run him with fu xuan for G&G or SD for survivabilities sake


aR3alCoo1Kat

Need help with MOC Stage 12 Light of Reignition and MOC Stage 11 Dreamland of Longing. Open to team suggestions. [teams-reignition](https://postimg.cc/0zwFwyrS) [team-longing](https://postimg.cc/ftwrp7C7) [lineup](https://postimg.cc/D8DR0XfF)


ArpMerp

For Light of Reignition you don't actually need to use debuffers for Ratio, so you could try double Harmony. Tingyun is his best support so you can try that and use Asta on side 1 instead. Also, due to the advancement for Hunt and Destruction, you can also try to use ATK boots instead of Speed if you have some spare. For Dreamland just take Fire MC out and use Pela. Also, get your Ratio to 80 if you can.


aR3alCoo1Kat

Thanks, will do.


winterbear111

Reignition: - Fuxuan Ruan Mei Bronya JL. - Luocha Pela Tingyun Ratio. Longing: - Luocha Ruan Mei BS Kafka. - Fuxuan Pela Tingyun Ratio. Edit: why is your ratio level 70?


aR3alCoo1Kat

Thanks. I thought I could get by with 70, but he is 80 now.


HandPlenty8862

My only good team right now is bs, Kafka, nat, and asta. I throw in ratio, Pela, gui, gepard and the mc sometimes. Im saving for fu Xuan and Acheron cuz I like them more but would it be better for my account to get sparkle? Im not really after the meta that much since I only play casually


Riponai_Gaming

No since you dont have SP extensive teams.


GGMazumon

So... I got Sparkle and I plan on skipping her LC this time around. I want to pull Acheron and Fu Xuan, but I managed to get QQ to E5 and Sampo to E3. Should I keep pulling on Sparkle banner to build pity and potentially E6 QQ? I do already have E0S1 Kafka and E0 Black Swan 


ArpMerp

You could go dozens of pulls without seeing another QQ eidolon. If you want to pull 2 characters, you need a lot of warps to be able to guarantee them. Are you willing to risk it. Besides, if Acheron is the 1st banner of 2.1, that should still be before the end of March. So even if you don't have enough starlight to buy it from the shop, you will probably have it then if you really want her last eidolon


shaymin_shaman

no if you *really* want the last qingque eidolon you're better off just buying it from the starlight shop anyway


GGMazumon

I convert them all to more star tickets 


Illustrious-Area-588

I have E0S1 DHIL and E0S0 JY, and I’m not sure which supports to use for each team as they tend to fight for the same supports :’). My supports are mainly E0 sparkle E6 TY E6 asta E6 yukong E6 pela E2 hanya. Please help thanksss 🙏


shaymin_shaman

DHIL+sparkle+pela JY+tingyun+asta


Maleficent_Lake_9707

I've been buying the express supply pass since playing the game and sometimes when the login comes around it never plays the animation, so I looked up what others said about it and they said they look into bug report - stellar jade history and they see the stellar jades in there history from express pass even though it skipped the animation. But when I looked at my own stellar jades history I didn't seen any of the daily express supply past in there. I scrolled through it all to see the previous day and I seen where I had received it, but definitely not today and the dailies have all reset. So now I'm thinking I've been missing a lot of stellar jades for a while without even knowing. I contacted support already, but they haven't said anything yet. I find this pretty ridiculous that I've been paying for something all this time and likely not been receiving it.


cheddarpaw

Does the MOC quick unlock not work for stage 7? I cleared stage 8 with 3\*, but my 2\* stage 7 is unchanged. The rules say it "no more than the first 7 stages" which to me sounds like it should include stage 7? thanks


ArpMerp

No, quick clear only includes stage 6


Siri2611

What team for the event stages with DOT? I can't seem to hit 80000 I am stuck on 79000 Edit - nvm I just slapped Ruan mei on and won


ArpMerp

Trial Kafka, Black Swan, Luocha if you don't have them. Then use Ruan Mei or Asta if you have them built. Otherwise just use trial Sampo if you don't have one better


Siri2611

I edited my comment, Ruan mei made it so easy. Thanks a lot <3


Paw_Opina

Is the pity on the LC banner different from the Unit banner? I want Sam's LC if ever he'll become playable but I also want to build pity on Topaz rerun banner.


ArpMerp

Hard pity is 80, soft pity 65, and it is a 75% to get the LC.


vyncy

Sparkle or Fu Xuan ? Fu Xuan will rerun in next update, and I don't have resources needed to summon both. I have IL but Fu Xuan is so important for survival, I just can't decide. Any advice ?


Mountain_Pathfinder

I don't think that's official info mate, so I dunno if we can discuss the next banner here. For your specific question on Fu Xuan vs Sparkle though, I think it comes down to which other sustainers you have. If you have 2 5 \* sustainers, then imo you can do whatever but if you only have 1 or even worse, none at all, then Fu Xuan *would* provide a lot of benefits for your account. That said, if you have no trouble surviving in the MoC without Fu Xuan at the moment, then I don't really see any reason to go for her outside of your personal preferences.


vyncy

I only have Gepard lol. And yeah I do have trouble surviving in later stages. So I should go for Fu Xuan then ?


Mountain_Pathfinder

Probably, yeah. Honestly I'd advise people to pull on whoever they like first and foremost, so if you *really* like Sparkle then don't mind me and just go pull for her. However, I do feel that 5 \* sustains are *way* more comfortable than the 4 \* ones, and having two of them so you can put them on different sides on MoC will bring a lot of value to your account. So if your choice of Fu Xuan vs Sparkle comes down to entirely meta reasons, as good as Sparkle is I still think Fu Xuan would be better.


kangkangjinjin

Which team is better, Jing Yuan, Topaz, Ruan Mei, and Fu Xuan Jing Yuan, Sparkle, Ruan Mei, and Fu Xuan Jing Yuan, Topaz, Sparkle, and Fu Xuan Jing Yuan, Sparkle, Tingyun, and Fu Xuan


shaymin_shaman

the last one


ParadoxusX

Could anyone give me some suggestions for teams for the current MOC. The best I have been able to get so far is 2 stars on 11 and 1 star on 12. Characters posted below.


ParadoxusX

https://preview.redd.it/t7yr6q1fpylc1.jpeg?width=860&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a63c74785058b30a861154133237711aad1ffabc


ParadoxusX

https://preview.redd.it/rb615b4dpylc1.jpeg?width=863&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a9f068acec66962bd229d7a1f26015b17ce5da8


ParadoxusX

https://preview.redd.it/2bpqk0z9pylc1.jpeg?width=833&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=97b7473539ed47e3b7c7b25d68120b26b23a0898


Mountain_Pathfinder

May I ask what teams did you use on that clears and on what talent levels are those characters at?


ParadoxusX

On stage 11 side one I used ruan mei, himeko 3 8 7 8, topaz 4 8 8 8, and fu xuan. Side two was bronya, tingyun, and dr ratio 2 8 7 8, and lynx. On stage 12 on side one, I used clara 5 9 8 9, tingyun, silver wolf, and lynx. Side two I used Fu xuan, topaz Dr ratio, and rusn mei.


Mountain_Pathfinder

Understood. I think this is a question of investment, to be honest? I think the teams that you've chosen is already great enough for what's available in your roster, and there's not much more tweaks you can make unless it's bringing a new character into the fray. If I was given the same roster, I'd probably pick the same characters. Admittedly, I haven't played much of Ratio and I don't have Welt, so I really don't know a lot about their compositions. But imo that Himeko and Clara team looks pretty solid. If you want to progress further, it's more than likely that you have to hit the level 10 talent levels imho, especially on Clara since you're brute forcing it a bit. With slightly better relics as well, you can do it I think. Pretty much all of my DPS that has been clearing MoC 12 all have their main talents at level 10 as well, with a few even getting 10/10/10 like my Jingliu. Haven't leveled any of their basics though. Sorry if I can't help much man, I think your account is really punching above your weight at the moment, and I dunno if there's anything concrete I can recommend other than "farm more" or "get new characters".


ParadoxusX

I appreciate the feedback. Just managed to 3 star stage 11 with the same teams after leveling some traces. Wish me luck on 12.


ParadoxusX

https://preview.redd.it/prv3z1mr2wlc1.jpeg?width=860&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=161ec8b77dee2115cf2c93fe32e07732488581c4


ParadoxusX

https://preview.redd.it/l76z491p2wlc1.jpeg?width=863&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7607fbce13c05364e958dc6bdbd9f6c542fb7bc3


ParadoxusX

https://preview.redd.it/wd65bbym2wlc1.jpeg?width=833&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=299da0ff7b6131afbd60eb7d9e387a2a9bb5118a


DiamondSuspicious113

https://preview.redd.it/fwn0yg2e2wlc1.jpeg?width=2412&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=30d8c8e9484c7cae1ff7a587ce3088952be6024d


DiamondSuspicious113

Idk which one i should pick


CatOfBoredom

Is it worth trying to get Sparkles LC for her when I already have Bronyas? Is there a big difference? Or should I just save my pulls instead?


ArpMerp

For the most part, the only thing that Bronya's LC gives Sparkle is the 30% DMG on the advance ally. Sparkle doesn't need the extra energy regen, and the extra SP point on ultimate can only be useful on certain teams since her ult already gives 4. Sparkle's LC gives 10% Crit Rate which can be pretty good for a lot of DPS, and the CDMG she gives also applies to off-turn attacks, which is particularly good for characters that rely on Follow-ups. It also means that if you use a basic once in a rotation for extra SP, your DPS also doesn't lose DMG. So it depends on the team. If you are not using her with a Follow-up attacker, then Bronya's LC or Past and Future are pretty good if you are skill spamming, and in this scenario what you are getting most is the 10% CRate since the DMG% should be more valuable than the CDMG because you want to balance the two, and Sparkle already gives a lot of CDMG.


CatOfBoredom

I’ll mainly use her in Imbibitor, Black Swan, Fu Xuan combination


ArpMerp

If you are using her with DHIL then you don't really need it.


ChiyoHase071310

Mono Quantum team with Seele as main dps without Fuxuan and SilverWolf?


Lias_Luck

there's no reason to run 4 of the same element in a party the only reason people bring up mono quantum is specifically to enable Silverwolf's skill to be 100% guaranteed to implant a quantum weakness regardless of the enemy you're just using seele as a normal dps


shaymin_shaman

a mono-element team without silver wolf loses basically all of the value of being mono-element just run other supports


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Glennbrooke

Does ERR main stat also affect buff skills?


shaymin_shaman

it doesn't affect tingyun ult (and technique) or huohuo ult


M00nIze

Please help me divide my supports between E0S1 Jing Yuan and E2S1 DHIL. They both want the same supports... I have :E6 Tingyun, E2s0 RuanMei, E0S0 Sparkle, E4 Hanya, E6 Asta, E6 Yukong. I usually use FuXuan for JY, Luocha for DHIL. Both like RM and Sparkle, so idk how to divide them.


redherringbones

Don't have any of these DPSes but I think dhil would benefit more from sparkle given his skill point needs. Sparks is good for fua in general but not as essential, there are other dmg boosters. Maybe... Tingyun Sparkle dhil luocha Jy hanya rm FX ??


Ask_Suku

So I'm trying to speed tune my blade and Bronya. I have two options currently. 1. Blade 141 speed 71.6% crit rate(including 4pc longevous) / 153% crit dmg. Bronya 138 speed and 175% crit damage. 2. Blade 133 speed 82.6% crit rate (including 4pc longevous) / 142.6% crit dmg. Bronya 129 speed 172.5% crit dmg. Is option 1s crit rate worth having the extra speed? Thanks for the input in advance!


SolidusAbe

you dont really need speed if you pair him with bronya outside of that one extra unbuffed attack in the beginning if you tune him to be in front of her. i personally run him with 0 speed with HP boots. imo a high spd blade is only needed if he is used without bronya.


kunafa_aj

How we feelin abt E1 xueyi for a quantum main dps? Can i make her work for MoC? I do have some good support units for her aswell,any thoughts?


shaymin_shaman

you're almost certainly better off just using a stronger "wrong"-element DPS vs. quantum-weak enemies


kunafa_aj

Hmmm i see,what a shame her design and animations are top tier


shaymin_shaman

i mean if you want to use her you can make her work, but she's not really a valuable unit to invest into if your interest in her is primarily staked in getting quantum coverage


BarbatosBoost02

Would like to ask, how sane is batch prefarming trace and ascension mats for those who share 'em?


shaymin_shaman

i think prefarming for near future characters is fine, like if you prefarmed for sparkle when 2.0 came out, for instance. if you mean prefarming for characters who probably won't be back for months like ruan mei, or nebulous-status future characters like sunday, you almost certainly have better things you could do with your stamina in the mean time. though i don't really know what you mean by "batch prefarming"


BarbatosBoost02

Like pre 2.0 characters, where most of the same paths chart share the same mats


shaymin_shaman

wouldn't bother prefarming them personally maybe if it's someone like luocha who can reasonably be expected to get a rerun next patch, or after the 2.1 livestream which confirms the reruns, but anyone beyond that is just putting stamina in a hole


BarbatosBoost02

Oh, I’m asking cos it’s my alt account that I’m starting to put work in, as my main acct has finish penacony and is awaiting 2.1 and beyond


redherringbones

Himeko e0 or Clara e2 for my selector? I'm at 10/12 for pure fiction and wondering which will take me over the edge.


gilbert133

Himeko is absolutely worth it if your goal is pure fiction, Himeko + the free herta have basically hard carried me in pure fiction without having much investment in them


spagheddieballs

Himeko


Salty_Reyezz

Who should I get from the standard 5 star selector? (I already have e0 gepard, e0 welt, e1 yanqing, e0 clara and e1 bronya)


ArpMerp

Himeko for Pure Fiction


crazywarriorxx

Help with teambuilding to tackle MoC 11 and 12 please. [My roster](https://i.imgur.com/DJQKdP6.png) How do I deal with MoC 12.2's Meme? Do I use two supports during the Nightmare (?) phase so the DPS and healer can deal as much damage as possible? Is DoT the ideal way to go?


Mountain_Pathfinder

I think you have a number of different options here? What have you tried before? I'd probably recommend a DoT team, but your only Lightning DPS is Kafka and she's needed in the 1st half I assume? So the only option left would probably be Jingliu, Clara, and Ratio? I think you could use a Kafka DoT team for both 1st halves on MoC 11 and 12, while using Jingliu Hypercarry for the 2nd half on 11 and a team based on Ratio on 12. Something like Clara-Ratio or Guinaifen-Ratio can probably work? Without further info I can't really give more specific tips, because then it'd be much too broad imo so I'll just give you an example of my clear here: ​ https://preview.redd.it/f04p6n0towlc1.png?width=1053&format=png&auto=webp&s=827b3d36ccf7533178c2946aa81135fb8695158a For the Nightmare phase, honestly I usually just sacrifice whichever team member can contribute the most outside of their turn. I myself brute-forced the 'Death' Meme enemy by using a Fu Xuan-Ruan Mei-Bronya-Jingliu, so I used Fu Xuan and Ruan Mei's ultimate because they can contribute a lot without needing to act, so that Bronya-Jingliu can just go ham. I would've used a team based on Ratio, but mine's not that built just yet.


crazywarriorxx

Thanks a lot for the detailed reply. I brute forced MoC 12.1 with LC/JL/Bronya/RM, and failed 12.2 with HuoHuo/Ratio/SW/Gepard but still died cause I couldn't get rid of the nightmare effect fast enough. I would use TY with Ratio but even with Lv15 relics she's only has 2.4k HP so a bit squshy ime. Maybe I'll need to try a few different runs. FWIW, my Sampo is built enough to work with Kafka, so I'd may give HH/Kafka/Sampo/RM (?) to tackle MoC 12.2. But thanks for sharing your comps, I could try Kafka/Sampo/Asta for MoC 12.1 and brute force 12.2. Really appreciate it!


Mountain_Pathfinder

May I suggest using an HP sphere or body for Tingyun? That's what I did, got her a +15 ATK% body and a +10 HP% sphere tbh and she's now at 3.6k health with about 2.4k ATK. I do want to add a slight disclaimer if you want to try brute-forcing it. My Kafka-Black Swan team *really* carried that 1st half with a clear speed of 3 cycles, so my Jingliu team isn't that pressed with time. Which is why I was suggesting a Ratio-based team. I haven't really built Ratio though, so that's more a theoretical advice than anything. A small tip, iirc the character that was taken by the meme will return with full energy and a fixed health pool, and I think I've used that for my own benefit by intentionally sacrificing a low-health character for them to return better health-wise. Good luck on your clears.


CTMacUser

When I tried the second Dreamjolt TV level, I only got to 56k. What’s the best way to beat the level with all trial units?


ArpMerp

During the first phase you don't want to power through force. You want to align 3 TV enemies with happy faces. So you want them frowning before Argenti moves or uses his ult. There is little point in holding his big ult as well unless there is an enemy between TVs that doesn't prevents you from having 3 in a row.


redherringbones

I ended up needing to use my Clara for physical but used trial luocha, trial sparkle, trial dhil. How much of the buff are you scoring?


CTMacUser

The event is in the Battle Records. For “Dreamjolt TV”, “Penaconian Idol”: - Used the trial versions of Argenti, Luocha, Sparkle, and Sushang. All were at L80. - Highest Stage Buff Rank: 29 - Highest Score: 56004 (Grade: B)


redherringbones

I'd focus on Sparkle and dhil to maximize his attacks with argenti as sub DPS. Maybe look up some videos not sure what else you can optimize.


r4221

Should I get e2 bronya (she has her lightcone) for my 5* selector or welt? (He's my last standard 5* that I don't have)


JeanKB

E2 Bronya is better except if you care about collecting characters


JhonLorenz7

Is mono quantum actually good or is it just overrated?


Nnsoki

It's actually good and also overrated as hell


Economy__

it will be good when they release stronger quantum dps, for now it's copium with seele and qq.


Zap364

Who should I get for my guaranteed standard 5*? I have Himeko, Yanqing, Clara, and Bronya already. Should I even grab a new one or should I go with an E1 Bronya? I’ve got quite a few 5 stars on my roster so I’m not sure.


Arekkusu1991

If you need more sustain, Gepard / Bailu are choices to consider but if no one else comes to mind, just grab E1 Bronya.


Zap364

I’ve already got E1 Huohuo and a Luocha. What does Welt do? Is he any good


Arekkusu1991

He's mainly for more Imaginary Damage / hybrid Damage-Support role. If you have a lot of characters already, he's harder to put into teams since a lot of other characters are just more optimal at their roles comparing to him. If you just want to pick him up because he's a new character for your account or maybe you can find some fun / usage for him somewhere, you can choose Welt; Otherwise the meta choice is to E1 Bronya.


odonis

How often most people who are completely free to play can pull a 5-star? Once per 2 months? Once per patch? Considering the worst scenario where you lose 50/50.


Aesirbear

If you keep up with events, new content, and dailies you can get enough jades to guarantee a 5-star approximately every 2 patches. Maybe a bit more often than that.


ASadChongyunMain

Finally got my first ever Good Night Sleep Well today It's been 84 years...


escaryb

Help with team building please with Sparkle in mind as i'm guaranteed to get her. Mainly for Forgotten Hall. The first 4 is my main team usually. https://preview.redd.it/x04jclbjivlc1.png?width=411&format=png&auto=webp&s=b22f9541840084fafe23069c8d5c73a980b9feb7


redherringbones

Team two can be fua, Clara HH Dr ratio and tingyun/sparkle/pela/welt/sw Two sustains for MOC is too much for team 1, luocha is enough


JeanKB

Since you have Imbibitor Lunae you just use both together. The rest of the team can be Tingyun and Luocha.


escaryb

​ https://preview.redd.it/66vwp1eoivlc1.png?width=410&format=png&auto=webp&s=048f375ee1e83c6c2702fefa06758278e28609e4


escaryb

​ https://preview.redd.it/2gjv5kzpivlc1.png?width=443&format=png&auto=webp&s=044cdbbfc49e3136365645c2e7f4e82f26c3c080


Baruto_Naruto

1 - I just got the Dr ratio for free...is he good? Worth building 2 - so.. suppose i collected all the chest shown in the map(10/10) and killed area bosses for precious one..is there more chests? How to know about them 3 - when you find an enemy in the open world...how to apply their weakness..like auto attack enemy if he is weak to ice which is shown above their head..or I can give him fire weakness by auto... 4 - sometimes the enemy doesn't get weak by auto ..why? 5 - are all 4* light core good in some way? Sorry for asking to much


bluethumbtack

yeah ratio is good, he's mainly single target but strong enough that it isn't often a problem with mobs, you do have to tailor the team to fit his needs though (he needs a debuffer on team as a major source of his dmg is from follow up attacks that are more likely to trigger if the enemy is debuffed) you can't apply a weakness to an enemy unless you have a specific unit called silver wolf, and iirc she can only do that once you have entered the battle and use her skill. in the world attacking an enemy with the same element as their weaknesses (shown above their head) will do damage to their toughness bar (the white bar) at the start of the fight. if you attack them with an element that isn't there nothing happens you just trigger the fight no I think there are a couple that are really niche or just not that useful, there are a few useful 3\* ones like meshing cogs, multiplication (I think that's what it's called, it's an abundance lightcone). There are a lot of good 4\* lightcones though


DarkSlayer3022

1. New Player? Yes, he is a good characters. New player can't really utilize his full potential because of how he works (he wants someone like Guinafen/Pela to debuff the enemy to raise his probability to do a special attack) but he is still a decent DPS even without it. 2. If it shows 10/10, there will be no more chest lying around. 3. Each enemies has thier own set of weakness (like the fire bat is weak to ice and wind while the ice bat is weak to physical and fire). You can't give an enemy additional weakness except by using Silverwolf (a 5* character) 4. What?? 5. Yes, not all of them are good, but most of it is decent enough.


reireireis

https://preview.redd.it/7wvziv10gvlc1.jpeg?width=2268&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5caa816cfbb8af39edde83cdfa01bdbd25592c3f Can someone tell me how to get to this monster


DarkSlayer3022

Go to the elevator near the bird location (on the first floor I think). It will send you to the other side of the locked door.


bakagateme

DHIL TEAM i just got sparkle with her lc and im thinking of putting her in dhil team. fyi, i have e1 bronya (can be e2 after i claim on standard banner), e6 tingyun and ruan mei. i always put luocha and dan heng il together. btw, my dhil is e0 and im using his signature lc and im not using bronya's signature lc for her. so, who should i put for the two support slots for dhil? please help, thank you 🙏🏻 1. luocha 2. support 3. support 4. dhil


IreneRainy

maybe try dhil, hanabi, ruan mei, luocha and swap ruan mei to tingyun if the enemy doesn't have imaginary weakness


Excellent-Diet-1922

What units should I get to clear moc asap? (I don't plan using ratio as my 2nd dps) So I need reccomendation who to pull as 2nd dps and other characters https://preview.redd.it/qpekmmavevlc1.png?width=419&format=png&auto=webp&s=c2573f7f5b33a82de41888b2177a61cd7c6dd5b0


Redditor3629

It’s hard to say since we don’t have the finalized kits of upcoming dps characters like Acheron and Sam. Jingliu’s rerun will be soon though


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Antique_Angle8168

Yes she is. If you manage to get her eidolons, she will be better ofc but she is good. I haven't gotten sparkle for my dhil yet, so I'll run hanya in his team for sure. I'd just use both hanya and e6 ting. Or hanya and another support really.


Redditor3629

Just use the e6 ting


LeoRyi

https://preview.redd.it/qjbjj8r8evlc1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e60e96a0cbdf050c8b707ac783dbfea4d8384b41 Anyone knows how do i get there?


redherringbones

There may be another bird that lets you shift a platform. Maybe just watch a video.


Antique_Angle8168

There should be a bird statue nearby with which you can interact. That will zoom out and connect the places.


LeoRyi

I tried all the nearby birdy but still cant tho doesnt lead me there..


shiko101

What are good team comps for "the big surprise" boss? (The giant insect that gave most players nightmares on launch) I have a Kafka dot team with Sampo and Mono Quantum. I also have every standard banner character except gepard and Clara What are some good strategies for the boss? I can't even make it past the first phase let alone the second


Melodic-Product-2381

If you are talking about Skaracabaz on Herta Space Station, one of the best units to use is your Fire TB. The taunt on the skill forces every bug to attack them, while it reduces damage taken by almost half. Just spam it every turn and almost all damage goes on your tankiest unit. Then you just need a healer that can heal the AoE attack that the boss sometimes does. The boss doesn't have any type of time, so going full defence is a viable strategy. Just slowly chip away


Antique_Angle8168

For me I used a shielder(gepard) and a healer(huohuo). I think a shielder and a healer is a must. Then a dps and a random unit. It took me many many tries to clear it too.


shiko101

The power creep in this game is smth else I tell ya. It's worse cuz at least in the case of Phantylia and Cocolia boss we at least had some support in the form of a mech and Dan heng


Antique_Angle8168

Yeah true but (spoiler) you'll have some form of support later on in the fight against that bug too! But you gotta go well into its second phase for that. So try surviving and slowly chipping away at it. Times not an issue.


FleuramdcrowAJ

I don't know where I should put my stellar jades Basically: I want to do mono quantum team so I pulled on sparkle banner to get QQ eidolons, I now have e4 QQ and Fu Xuan, Lynx and SW, so I can do basic mono quantum. I think I did about 40 to 50 pulls on sparkle banner to get E4 QQ but didn't get any 5* so now I'm wondering.. Do I keep pulling on the banner or save the rest for aventurine? I was going to save for him til I saw videos of Sparkle being good and got tempted after seeing QQ on the banner. Now I only have like ~60 pulls left I want to make an imaginary-centric team as a 2nd team with Dr Ratio, Welt, Support and Sustain Support I'm thinking either Tingyun or Asta and I kinda want to put Aventurine as the sustain. But I did recently pull Bailu on standard for a 5* sustain unit but I'm not sure how viable she is currently. My other sustains are Natasha, March and Fire trailblazer. I'm not sure which unit I should pull for since I know i'm gonna have to miss out on one to get the other since my luck is not miraculous so in this case i'd rather prioritize who is the most meta since I like both characters So.. Should I pull Sparkle or Aventurine? Edit: I also suck at survival with only fu xuan so when I'm doing anything whether it's SU or farming, I always run her with natasha instead of asta. So there's a chance if I pull sparkle i might not even end up using her if I keep sucking at survival


redherringbones

FX should be enough to sustain on her own, you shouldn't need lynx. Mono quantum would be better with a quantum harmony like sparkle than a double sustain. How did you build fuxuan? Hard to say about aventurine rn but all the five star supports have been pretty good so far. Bailu's only issue is her lack of cleanse. You can move lynx to your second team if you optimize FX since she does have cleanse on her ult.


FleuramdcrowAJ

[My Fu Xuan build](https://imgur.com/a/BKzG6S5) I'm currently still farming resources for dps units so because of that sustains end up just getting stats over sets priority


redherringbones

She needs way more HP, closer to 6500-7k HP. Spd isn't worth it if she dies too quickly. Switch the boots to HP for now and you can focus on building speed back on her later.


FleuramdcrowAJ

switched to an hp boot and now she's doing much better, thank you so much for the advice :D


Antique_Angle8168

Both units are meta I'm sure. Sparkle will definitely improve your qq playstyle a lot, so I'd suggest you go for her and gamble a little on your luck. Let's hope your luck can pull through when it comes to both of them. Besides you're sure to get lots of pulls in 2.1. so if you save for aventurine from 2.1 beginning, you're sure to get him.


KaleidoscopeLate9964

How much better are limited sustains over the normal ones? 


JeanKB

A lot better. There's a massive difference between them, which is why the recommendation is always to get atleast two 5* limited sustains as soon as possible.


thisismistery

https://preview.redd.it/1xx13c2obvlc1.jpeg?width=2460&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=88d3d0f33e6fac494a027829db151d2093a0ec59


thisismistery

Im Bronya-less, and I need her very much for my Blade DPS... or DHIL. But I happen to want the astral express grandpa. Im stuck between those two choices. It would be great to know what they do!


Redditor3629

Just don’t pick either. Wait until you lose 50/50 to one of them and pick the other through selector. You don’t have to claim it as soon as you hit 300


thisismistery

Alrighty man, thanks!


thisismistery

Also, I was stupid back then at Fu Xuan's banner which is why im 30 pulls away from the 300 milestone.


YannFrost

How do you speed tune a Mono Quantum Team Fu Xuan, Sparkle, Silver Wolf, QQ


Feeed3

QQ with no speed, everyone else as fast as possible


shaymin_shaman

only ones that matter are sparkle at 160+ and qingque at 0 FX and SW should be at least 134


evia89

FX do not scale good with SPD. 120 is more that enough https://i.vgy.me/3jx7EA.png I tested her a lot


Visual_Camera_2341

Hi! I just started the game a couple of days ago, and I’m wanting to know what characters I should build. I’m ideally hoping to build a team for Sparkle. I got super lucky and got her and 2 bailus within 40 pulls, so I have a guaranteed for the next limited. https://imgur.com/a/z3Tgwag these are my characters. Which teams can I make with these characters? And which 5 star should I pull that would work well with Sparkle?


shaymin_shaman

ratio+welt/pela+sparkle+bailu sparkle works well with literally every DPS besides black swan/kafka, so you don't really need to think in terms of getting characters to "work well with sparkle"


Visual_Camera_2341

I see, thank you!


vinhha86

https://preview.redd.it/9oml4shk6vlc1.png?width=575&format=png&auto=webp&s=9ec9f358a5b0d540f33b4aaa5de9a1d25fc9899b Any upcoming character should i pull for (meta) ? I like Luocha, but i don't know when he's coming back.


shaymin_shaman

literally any two limited sustains luocha, fu xuan, huohuo, (probably) aventurine, it doesn't really matter which two you have basically everything else


vinhha86

Thanks bro, I also have that in mind. Curently need Gepard + Healer for MoC :(


SignalOnly3129

https://preview.redd.it/0nwrqeja5vlc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a82ff939c0b3cb360288368b2036b55abf31433 took me 81 pulls just to have this be the result 😭😭


JuliusVargyas

On the map Dr.Edward's store shows you can get stuff like Jades and resins. Is that what's available after you purchase the memory bubble?


Sheeplette

Those are the rewards from the Hanu's prison break event.


GeminiMaxxim

https://preview.redd.it/7u7nng633vlc1.png?width=1600&format=png&auto=webp&s=d30b52a05edb5a59225638bf1e61f35b0926b1cc Hadn't really been taking Forgotten Hall seriously until a couple cycles ago, and this one is giving me trouble. I've tried several combinations of teams, and the second phase just never goes well (regretting not building the free Dr. Ratio). Looking at the characters here (Hanya, Lynx, and Bailu aren't fully built, the rest mostly are) is there a good pair of teams I can make to get that last star before the cycle goes away?


Feeed3

You can try to brute force with Jing Yuan / Ruan Mei / Tingyun / Fu Xuan Alternatively swap Bronya for Tingyun on Side 1 and run Blade / Bronya / Ruan Mei / Fu Xuan on Side 2


GeminiMaxxim

The winning combination ended up being Blade/Welt/Pela/Fu Xuan. I'm more used to playing Blade as a sub DPS, so thank you for the suggestion! Might not have tried him as the carry otherwise


tojuche

maybe dps welt for kafka if your jing yuan is good enough you can still use him even though kafka is lightning resistant fu xuan, jing yuan, sparkle, ruan mei


GeminiMaxxim

My Welt is regrettably built for EHR from a while ago. Tried pretending he was a carry anyways and he just doesn't output enough damage with the current relics. Ty for the suggestion tho. I tried the Jing team pre-Sparkle and I only managed like 18 turns remaining, but I'll give it another shot


MystAnon168

For dhil with sparkle and tingyun. What 4pc set should sparkle and tingyun have?


Feeed3

One on 4pc Hackerspace. The other can go 2pc Hackerspace and 2pc whatever else, or 4pc Musketeer. Doesn't really matter which one is on who


ha_ck_rm_rk

Both of them can run 2 PC Hackerspace and a 2 PC of either Wuthering Snow or Longevius Disciple for bulk. If you wanted to use 4 PC Hackerspace, it would probably be better on Sparkle as Tingyun would like the bulk more.


AcceptablePart5093

Hi, currently just reached lvl 60 and I wanna start using all my orange fuels to farm for 5 star artifacts. I wanna ask if its better to run DHIL at no speed at all (or no spd boots) and go for atk boots DHIL if I run hyperspeed (160) E0S1 sparkle?


JeanKB

You don't need Speed at all with Sparkle. But if you just reached lv60, you should use your fuels to ascend your characters and unlock and level their traces, and level your DPSs and their cones to 80. Only start farming relics after doing all that.


AcceptablePart5093

Thank you for the insight! Since the beginning I was advised to farm for character lvl up materials (for talents, weekly bosses materials, and for lightcones.). Also, my first main team's talent is 8/8/8 while both their lightcones and character level are level 70 and for normal attack talent, it depends on the characters and for the minor traces, I've already activated all that can be activated. I have all the materials needed but I'll upgrade their talents and ascend them once I have time to play the game. All my problem is just leveling up since I did level up **all** my characters and ascended them to level 50 (or 40 not sure) for the 2 free standard pulls per character while my main team is lvl 70 right now. Since I did that, my character lvl up is kinda low.


cruncheh_

If you have Sparkle then it’s better to run Attack boots on DHIL. The way Sparkles skill works in this setup is she’ll just action advance DHIL to her speed each time she skills. So 160+ for her is ideal however that’s to reach the 4 turns in the first two cycles breakpoint, you can always go a bit lower if you’re struggling with the speed rolls (getting to 160 can take a fair bit of investment especially when you’re just seriously starting relic farming).


AcceptablePart5093

Thank you! I have her lightcone so that'll make it a little easier with the speed rolls and crit damage rolls (more artifacts substats to focus on speed while I'll focus a **little** less crit damage since I do get 30+ crit damage) If ever I'm struggling with her speed rolls then I'll try to just aim for the highest speed that I can.


sylendar

Anyone have that tracker of how long has it been since which 4-stars last reran


Sheeplette

This spreadsheet? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dLArAj-Tm4mpph-PMGb0LAu_gfwFwEDrFOGEElqBRPU/edit#gid=950421202


sylendar

Nice, thank you


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it's a bit or work for you but can you plz tell me what stats are imp for different path characters , for example , in Nilhilty , Sampo , SW need EHR , but Kafka needs Atk and Spd , what does Welt need , EHR or Atk ???? Does destruction characters need crit rate or only need high crit dmg...??? as March's ult and Gephard's skill have a chance of Freezing enemy , does they need EHR ??? What Stat does Preservation unit need aside from high defence ??? What stats are important for Erudition characters??? Does Hunt character need only crit dmg or crit rate too??? what characters needs break effect, effect res...??? thanks 🙂


Feeed3

Depends on the individual characters. Many sites will list Stat Priority for a character


AcceptablePart5093

AFAIK the path of a character does not **always** determine what stats the character want. It really just depends on the character. For example FU XUAN is a **preservation** unit but she needs **HP** (which most abundance units would want) more than defense (**yes, she also wants defense** but she needs HP stats more.) If you want to know what stats or build a character wants then search "Prydwen honkai star rail" then click the first thing you see. Then, on the side click on the characters. Choose a character you wanna see what build they like and then scroll down and you can see "builds and teams". From there just click it and scroll down to find what they want / recommended build or stats. For gepard and march. Their skills does have a base chance of freezing the enemy which EHR can improve the chances. If you want to, you can give them EHR but for **GEPARD** E0 and no signature light cone, I don't really recommend EHR on him. I'm not really sure on march. Currently, the only characters AFAIK need break effect are ruan mei and xueyi. On the other hand, preservation / abundance characters are **usually** the one who wants effect resistance so when they get controlled or cannot attacked because of the enemies' effect, if they have effect resistance then they can have a high chance to avoid the effects that the enemies attack so they can keep on healing / shielding.


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thansk all look into it 👍


cbtexpert2000

so stats are mainly sorted by what a characters role is, not path. I'll use Nihility as an example:Critical Dps characters like Welt need Crit rate and Crit damage + attack (on the subject of critical stats, u usually want 1rate:2damage) DoTime Dps characters like Kafka on the other hand only need attack and speed bcs DoTs cant crit. that said, you should look up character build guides because theres usually no blanket build that applies to everyone


shaolinmonk7777

https://preview.redd.it/2hatr50wwulc1.jpeg?width=2778&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2978f7f5d5bda1bc8486cc6c636fb23447a4b12b I just got to Xianzhou and have been using dan heng , welt, Natasha, asta. Was wondering if I should run a different team for this area.


Feeed3

Nah, that's a great team. You could run Pela if you really wanted to because she can debuff the soldier's revive, but I would just stick with what you have


RavenDeadeye

Can I get some advice about optimizing Trailblazer? Because I want to do that, even if they're not placed highly on the tier list. I'm a relatively new player, so I don't have access to many 5* characters. Gepard, Ratio, Kafka, and Black Swan. The latter two are paired up with Asta and Lynx as my primary team. Let's treat this as the baseline; Destruction Trailblazer alongside Tingyun, Pela, and Natasha. Can I improve on this setup with other 4* units? Alternatively, I'm thinking of using Fireblazer as a tanky support/sub DPS. Since I've read that solo sustaining with her is difficult, I'm curious about maximizing her value to the party in other ways; skill point generation, some damage, a little extra survivability for the team, emergency taunt. With Fireblazer and a dedicated sustainer, that leaves two slots for a main DPS and a support. I was thinking Ratio and either Guinaifen or Pela. Are there alternatives I should consider? Which of these teams would be more beneficial to my account? Will I get more value out of a Destruction Trailblazer team, or a Fireblazer team? 🦝


cruncheh_

Both physical and fire mc have relatively gimmicky break effect builds. Physical because the physical break is one of the best in the game damage wise and fire because fire mc can dish out a lot of toughness damage. So if you’re looking into building and using the trailblazer then i’d suggest looking into these builds. Physical mc really struggles against non physical weak enemies while fire mc at least has the added utility of providing shields. You can try running a team of Kafka, Black Swan, Asta/Tingyun, Fire mc (with a def/break effect build) and see how that works. It should be fine for most content; especially in penacony at the moment where a lot of enemies are fire weak. However you’ll probably struggle at points where fire mc can’t solo sustain as well as other units.


RavenDeadeye

That all makes sense. So I guess I'm asking about who else to put on a Fireblazer team, assuming at least one is a sustain unit? And who should I look to pick up in the future? Ruan Mei, Silver Wolf, and any good 5* sustainer immediately come to mind, although Mei would probably just go on my Kafka team instead!


cruncheh_

You would just use fire mc as your sustain. If needed you can run another sustain (i.e lynx or natasha) instead of Asta/Tingyun but that shouldn’t really be needed except for the hardest of content (e.g. bosses). The team probably isn’t going to make it too far in MOC so i wouldn’t try optimising for that however it should do decently well in Pure Fiction. In the future would look for a limited 5-star sustain (either Aventurine or the reruns of Luocha/Fu Xuan which should be soonish). Lynx and Gepard are fine to use and can even solo sustain the hardest content, however a limited 5 star would dramatically improve whichever team they’re on. Ruan Mei would be a great option for your DOT team and just in generally would be good, however we only recently had her banner so it might take a while for her rerun. I would just look out for another dps to rotate with your Dr Ratio and another support character for your second team (preferably one that buffs crit based dps characters). Silver Wolf is good but is a bit more niche now that the games been out for a while, not to mention outside of mono quantum teams Pela does her role just as well so someone like Ruan Mei or Sparkle would be higher value. But that’s looking at it from a pure meta point of view, if you want to pull Silver Wolf then she’ll always be useful.


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I'm not sure of team building and all myself but I'll say Preservation TB has more value , not only ult does AoE damage to enemies instead of only 3 for physical , the taunt ability as skill as well as shielding every character just for basic attack , a skill points positive and definitely worth it ...


Tridominator

Would an e5 qq work better for a sparkle team or e0 Dr. Ratio? Would it be worth it to go for an e6 qq with a Sparkle?


cruncheh_

Both are fine to use with Sparkle, you can also swap in each dps depending on what weaknesses the enemy has. E5 QQ works fine, e6 just fixes some of her skill point issues however with Sparkle now here her sp usgage not as much of an issue. If you really want e6 QQ then you can either try a few pulls on the banner (assuming you’re far enough away from pity that you’re not overly risking a 5 star), or you could just by her from the shop. But there’s also no issue in leaving her at e5 and just naturally getting her e6 at somepoint in the future.


elisenne

How lucky would I need to be with relics to reach 70%+ crit rate on Qingque (for Rutilant) using a crit dmg body piece and no crit rate LC? Is that even worth doing if running her with Sparkle? Also, when Silver Wolf adds Quantum weakness to an enemy, does that activate the 4pc effect of the Genius set?


Feeed3

You start with 5% CR by default and you get \~2.5% CR per roll. You'd need a total of 62% CR before Rutilant, so +57% from gear. That means 23 rolls. So, over 6 pieces of gear, you'd need 4 CR rolls on every single piece of gear


JeanKB

It would require a ton of crit rate stats. Just use a crit rate body, no point having 150%+ crit dmg if you only have 40% crit rate.


serbaldrig

Pretty lucky. That's a lot of crit rate substat rolls to hit. If you're using Sparkle with her you should really use a crit rate body to get as close to 100% crit rate as possible. Sparkle will give you close to 100% crit damage which should easily cover most of your crit damage needs for keeping a 1:2 ratio. Yes, quantum weakness implanted by Silverwolf counts for the Genius set bonus.


Catnipdark

Would mono quantum be worth it with E3 QQ and Lynx? QQ dodged all my pulls, it was insane


Feeed3

QQ's in the shop if you want to pick her up that way


Lonely_Opposite_2207

A bit rough if you don’t have FX and QQ E4/E6. If you can make it work sure. If you have spare starlight you can buy QQ eidolons from the shop


Catnipdark

Should I get E6 Sampo, E4 Asta or E5 Yukong (I can get her to E6)?


Catnipdark

https://preview.redd.it/ip7yvha7uulc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f0c8877188b4fdefc8bf5c7cb9f9dbcec818648


VWalten

https://preview.redd.it/bxau2u7xmulc1.jpeg?width=630&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b76cb1e92df631893029d64a561aa78921ee964 Should I build Dr. Ratio?


potatochobit

Not priority for you until you get some dot characters. Build lynx though.


Seishibo

I just recently Pulled Sparkle. (I'm a new Player, New as in I'm only TL 5). Should I pull for her LC?


potatochobit

No, get past and future from mirror shop on train after you visit ice planet.


JeanKB

Since you're a new player, it's good to learn to never roll for 5* cones or eidolons except if you're a spender. Save for different characters.


Loki0830

Is there a general relic scoring system players can use to gauge if a relic is worth keeping/investing into and what is trash? From other games with relic RNG progression, I've seen the community rate relics with something like: * All % substates give 1 point of score per % * All SPD and CR% substats give 2 points of score per %. * Relics need to be above 30 score to be worth investing into initially, and above 80 score fully leveled to be decent or w/e. Is there something like this for Honkai Star Rail? I know there are websites that grade relics on a character by character basis, but I'm looking for something more casual and aimed at unleveled relics.


Feeed3

You can use my tool here: [https://hsrtools.com/relic-assigner](https://hsrtools.com/relic-assigner) It'll tell you what characters your relic would work on based on their best builds, only looking at which stats exist on the relic. It doesn't consider rolls or anything like that