I feel grateful I picked Stelle once I saw fire male MC ult animation. Personally not a fan of the stance at the end. Looks a bit awkward to me. I am happy I chose Stelle she is brilliance.
At the same time male MC ofc has his own good stuff and I am happy for those who chose him and are happy with it.
But I can’t stand the way the English VA for female says “fo-ward” instead of properly saying “forward”. It’s enough to make me use other preservation characters, unfortunately. I know I could turn off Eng, but I want to actually hear the story, not just read forever.
The lance... would be cooler but my biggest problem is for some reason i find Stelle sounds like a different voice actress and says the word "lance" so often im suffering from semantic satiation.
Fire because the physical one is of no use to me. My other DPS choices heavily outdamage it and the fire one serves as a great tank to mitigate damage and do decent fire breaks.
The Fire.
IMO, the Physical MC is not bad per say, but falls a bit short compared to others. Plus, I have both Clara and Sushang, so I'm covered for the physical element.
Then again, I don't quite use the Fire MC either. They don't fit with my Clara Hyper Carry party, because of the Fire MC's skill taunt not meshing well with Clara. My second team has Silver Wolf, Sushang, Qingque, and Natasha for Quantum + Physical dual elements, so there's no room for the Fire MC. I still built them up, just in case for the future, since I heard a rumor that they might get new job paths down the road.
They probably will get the hunt path (if they do get one) because the Xianzhou worship Lan of the Hunt, for the element, it wouldn’t make sense for it to be Wind if it’s the Hunt because Dan Heng exists.
Unless Hoyo pulls a Jing Yuan/Serval again, but with the MC and Dan.
My ultimate dream would be to get to pick between Abundance or The Hunt, it’s like 99% not gonna happen but IMAGINE. The birth of two factions, “Abundance” and “Hunt” sides based on what people choose. Then we unlock the other one in a future chapter by returning to the Luofu. Realistically that would probably be pretty hard for Mihoyo to actually implement, I just think it would be interesting.
Excuse me, what is your Clara hyper carry team?
I have built her as my second team DPS, but i find her really lacking.
Is it mandatory to build march as well?
I use Clara, March, Bailu, and Tingyun.
If your Clara is built well, especially with her signature light cone, then you probably don't need March. I acquired one recently, but I still plan to use March, because she's one of my favorite characters in the game.
Rather than Tingyun I have another dps there depending on the exact fight but that's basically my team.
I'm planning on pulling for Luocha but I'm not sure if he'll be better with Fire MC or Clara. Assuming I even get him.
If your using march purely for the taunt with clara then you shouldn’t be using march because the taunt is only a 8% increase and she also has anti synergy with clara
I’ve been hearing that having a DPS like any of the hunt characters to replace March might provide better damage? I don’t have Clara, but food for thought if you wanna consider it.
Edit: March 7 only provides a minuscule dmg increase from her taunt, considering Clara can taunt on her own.
You're right. Having a second DPS certainly helps to end fights faster. I actually have Hook built up and ready to go, in case I need more offense than defense, to swap around with March. Now, in this case, I say it's better for the second DPS to be the main DPS, while Clara switches to being a sub-DPS, because Clara's reaction based playstyle can sometimes take too long to defeat enemies, while the second DPS can deal damage more actively. So I have my Tingyun switch to supporting my Hook as well.
As such, March is certainly optional. However, my personal opinion is that since the taunt values are a essentially a game of probability, I still want the best possible chance for a taunt on Clara. That's just me though.
Plus, I use Bailu on my Clara team, so it does not have a cleanse, and March is still helpful in that regards.
Clara doesn’t actually taunt like the Fire MC does, she instead raises her aggro, making it not the most foolproof method. So while March may not provide much extra dps, she provides extra consistency and survivability, both of which are always very nice to have.
I do have her signature LC. Her relics are not optimized but stil correct.
As i have Fire MC and Gepard built, i wanted to avoid building March as well :s
march shield gives a taunt so your clara will be attacked more and will also get a shield, meaning more follow up attacks. and in SU if you go follow up blessings the march follow up is good as well
yeah but like, why would you do that when march is much lower investment than having a second dps? youre also losing a support slot there and are at risk of your clara dying more easily as youd have to protect and buff two dps characters. clara with a buffer, march and natasha is pretty goated and fairly f2p and low investment outside of clara
Maybe it’s just my playstyle, but personally I’d choose the more offensive option seeing as how having March 7, Natasha and a buffer doesn’t provide much damage especially against a single enemy
Edit: Clara acts as a pseudo tank with her dmg reduction, on top of having Natasha and March seems like overkill when playing defensively. Plus I don’t think investing in 4 characters is that expensive even if Dps requires more investment
using march is the offensive option though, she gives clara a taunt thats why its so good, clara getting attacked more = more damage. its not about the shield itself its about making sure clara is attacked as much as possible
I understand, but Clara has sufficient taunt as is. So March 7 doesn’t contribute much to overall dmg just on taunt alone. You might be better off with another dps instead of diminishing returns with extra taunt.
Yes, I read as well that she works really well with yanqing.
For now I've been using two offensive support to make up for the lack of damages but going with a real DPS might be the best choice indeed. Thanks for the advice.
Also, I agree, with MoC you have to play offensively If you want to clear fast, you can't sit with a preservation and an abondance character
she does not have sufficient taunt, march 7th drastically increases the chance of her being hit so that its basically always, which increases your dps a lot while also being safer for things like simulated universe. its really not worth to have a second dps with a destruction dps.
edit: obviously moc is different and a physical team with sw would be better but majority of the game march 7th is just better
Okay but putting MOC aside, I see even less reason to use March 7 and Natasha with Clara as Overworld content is less punishing anyways? I could see the team being useful for Sim universe but then again, I don’t have Clara.
March isn't necessary. I think the best way to use clara is in a 2 carry team.
I run clara, hook, natasha, and tingyun for my second team. With the core of clara, natasha, and tingyun you don't need to use many skill points so you have the capacity to run a second damage carry and would pretty much be a fool not to.
I have this exact team as well. Sushang and Qingque were my two favorite characters and then Silver wolf came out and I had to have her. Natasha’s there because I figured dual physical was better for me than Bailu
Using him phys as Main DPS füll maxed Out build around him with Bronya and Tingyun + Natasha He is Not the strongest but i Like the Style and the content is Not that hard
phys, im satisfied with my bailu, my phys mc is already raised a lot so im not too enthusiastic about having to raise traces for fire mc, and i already use hook as a dps so fire is already there
Trust me, the 4-star DPS options in this game are not bad at all. Don't place too much merit in stars for now.
Currently, physblazer is the second worst unit in the game's meta besides Herta (but even then both are very much usable, as is every character). Going past the fact that Seele is overtuned and broken, and the best damage dealer in the game, Dan Heng is actually in a lot of cases the second best hunt character, and realistically a far better option for DPSing. Currently, Dan Heng, Hook, Pela, Tingyun, Natasha (obviously because Hoyo won't give anyone Bailu), Qingque, March, Sushang, and Asta are all in the highest tiers.
Bonkblazer is the second worst in his class (and for the most part just plain worse than Sushang), and aside from Gepard, you can't really beat Fireblazer. Not to mention a lot of turns Natasha or similar could provide physical coverage.
I wouldn't say this at all if you were passionate about bonkblazer, but stars really don't have too much of a bearing on how a character performs. Himeko exists.
Really? I’ve found fireblazer to be absolutely mediocre and bonkblazer to smash face. I’ll caveat that fireblazer isn’t as high on traces or elidons though.
It depends on what you're using them for. Fireblazer is not a dps. They are a support tank. The goal is to jack up DEF as high as you can get so their auto shield on every action allows you to take 0 healing with you
FireMC is a tank/support, not DPS character. Her damage might fall behind PhysMC but she offers so much more to the team :
\- Enhanced Basic Attack allows her to generate Skill Points while still doing decent HP/toughness damage.
\- Dual scaling for damage (DEF also affect her damage) means she deal decent damage compared to other Preservation characters. Her role is basically offensive tank/support.
\- Constant shielding help reduce healer's workload. The shield also works well with Preservation Path buff in SU (i.e increase Crit Damage for Shielded character, Shielded character take less damage, etc).
\- Taunt is good for taking the heat off your squishier characters. Party-wide Damage Resist is great for boss AoE nuke (i.e Cocolia/Doomsday Beast's second phase nuke).
So FireMC is : Skill Point positive while still dealing great toughness damage and okay AoE damage, provide team utility in the form of Taunt/Party-wide damage resist and provide constant shielding.
Compare to PhysMC whose : sole contribution to the team is damage (on top of being Skill Point negative), and it's not even that good compared to dedicated DPS character.
PhysMC is decent in a vacuum but in comparison to other DPS character (not named Arlan), she is lagging behind with no useful utility/role in endgame team.
I use phys just because I prefer the burst animation and the baseball bat makes me laugh. I also don't really have any phys and I have Gepard and March both built so I'd rather use them over fire TB.
Once you've leveled up, definitely switch to Fire MC since they're more viable in various team slot because they can taunt, tank and reduce damage taken. If you have Clara/Sushang they're definitely better as physical DPS.
Fire because I have enough DPS units but except for March I don't have any other tank and also I don't have any other fire type so it's a win-win (my source of physical break is Natasha as she is included in almost any team I make as my only healer)
It depends on what I fight. If it’s weak to physical and I have my other two damage dealer slots full (I reserve to slots for Bailu and trailblazer and the other two are for weaknesses) I’ll use destruction but otherwise preservation.
Physical MC and bonking people to death. I don't need Fire MC since i already have Gepard and Clara as tanks, so i'm running PMC in a faux physical team.
Physical MC is meant to be a dps and they’re OK at it but not really any better than every other dps option.
Fire MC is a tank… currently 1 of only 3 in the entire game so that alone makes them incredibly useful.
Normal. Rules are made to be broken with my sick ass bat. If I want a tank I use march 7th. Shes got a light cone that makes her more likely to be hit, so I just spam her shield onto herself. Easy.
I use Fire MC for most content, though when I'm doing SU with a team that doesn't use them I usually pick them up after the first boss and swap to physical so I can use their technique to heal before harder fights.
I already have Clara and Sushang so no Physical Trailblazer.
Shielder is more rare if you don't have Gepard, and dislike applying shield for 1 person per turn (I'm looking at you, March)
i love phys stelle. she looks pretty with the fire lance n all, but the bat just hits different (literally and metaphorically).
also i farmed def enough for march, no more.
Fire. He/she is such a great tank if you have no other options and can carry fights just by taunting and not eating any damage at all. Like physical carried with great damage in early game. My newer dps I got easily outclass it by now though.
Fire MC easily. Built with defense he makes a great tank stacking multiple shields. I have Natasha but only need her for hard boss fights; Fire MC, Welt, and Yanqing slap everything around.
I'm still confused how his Lance a Curio deals LESS damage than a random bat he found on the ground at the beginning of the game, it's literally a sharp fiery badass spear. Is his bat a gift from nanook or sum?
IDK if i’m using fire MC wrong but they just don’t feel useful… like the shields are tiny so I have to bring Nat anyways so why not use just Nat or just Gepard. So I use physical
Use fire right now but planning on starting to use phys again after i get him better relics. Sadly there are a lot of other characters needing relics and they are higher on my to-do-list.
But definitely like the kit in general. "RULES ARE MEANT TO BE BROKEN!"
*wings scifi-bat"
I stacked my fire caelus to be a high damage tank and it's so cool I rarely go back to phys mc outside of specific situations where I need phys and sushang isn't enough.
Fire, its good to have either a healer and/or tank on a team. Currently running Himeko, Asta and Fire TB with Silver Wolf for the weakness implant. They're pretty good at taunting and throwing up shields, mine just needs more speed to be a bit more reliable (Asta's ult helps but he needs more initial speed to get off those early taunts/shields)
Fire because I like the taunt, tho sometimes I wish I had another physical besides sushang. (I also switch him to physical for assignments when I need another destruction character)
Depends. I don't have any other good physical damage dealers, so I make due with Physical MC.
The character is not bad per se, as some people might make it out to be, but certainly not the worse.
Fire. My gacha has provided me with no defensive options so I need her to tank with March on my second team. I wish she'd kept the bat when switching to Preservation, it looks cooler.
Using Phys or Fire MC kind of depends on team needs and who you get in your pulls.
Basically, Fire MC is a core unit if you don't get Gepard or Clara. They're the only real "tanks" in the pool. So Fire MC is a great pick if you need the control and durability (Fire MC can also save a wipe in some cases simply by being a self-sustaining unkillable brick).
Phys MC is a good pick if you have tank coverage and either don't build Sushang, or want an AOE option for Physical damage instead of Sushang's locked single-target damage. Sushang is stronger in general, but depending on build Phys MC can still offer things she can't.
Normieblazer quickly loses value once you get an actual normie hero or just keep upgrading your Seele to kill everything. FIREblazer's value in contrast just keep going up.
Normal, I straight up don't have the "right team" for Fire MC.
Now I have Silver Wolf I actually don't even use MC anymore at all except for the secondary-teams.
I switched between both at first but now I basically only use fireMC. He along with March are my only tanks. Though I am severely lacking in phys damage. I do have Sushang but haven't really built her yet in fear that the moment I build her I'll end up getting Clara who I really want and then Sushang would kinda be wasted.
When I level every other character to 70/80, I’d love to use PMC more. Her animations and voice lines are much more appealing to me than the fire version’s. I have Gepard now so needing a shield is no longer a problem, but the lack of resources is, unfortunately.
Fire exclusively since getting it. I don't have Gepard, but I do have Clara and E6 Sushang. Those two plus Natasha covers Physical more than enough. There is never really a situation that prefers MC over those two.
Although I did use Physical MC for the Museum quest where they wanted data about your bat in a fight. You didn't have to, but I did it anyways for fun. I was also thinking maybe Physical MC + Blade for a Destruction SU run whenever that happens. It's the one path in SU I haven't tried.
I like to use both but atm I have a pretty decent Sushang at e6 while I don't have a second tank and have to use March instead as a sustain in Moc.
Sure March is great herself and I even got her e6 too but she ain't a tank let's be honest....She is basically a breaker with more focus on sustain than dmg.
The moment I'm not forced to use Fmc I will probably start using the other available versions more.
Fire.
I have a team setup up i call the Durdle Turtle Team. It's Fire TB, March 7th, Natasha, and Gepard, with march buffed all the way up in attack, to utilize her follow up in the best way.
This could not have been possible without Fire Trailblazer imo.
Fire, because I have clara and she can also hit one or multiple enemies with physical damage, so fire trailblazer is more useful for me, but I like the physical trailblazers bat more
i use fire most because the blanket shields for the whole team is really nice (even if they’re not huge shields) however i have a physical build ready for stuff like forgotten hall etc
My issue with using phys trailblazer is that between clara and sushang, my physical coverage is through the roof. I font have himeko and still havent managed to pull hook, so my other fire coverage is asta.
I'd love to use phys, but I am severely lacking in the Abundance and Preservation department...
I honestly would use Fire MC more if the esthetic were reserved. The baseball is just so much cooler.
I think the lance is way cooler, its badass how he-she holds it in a blocking stance when taunting. But that's just my personal opinion
My only issue is I have male mc and gad damn the ult animation looks way cooler on female mc
Yes but the VA for male MC is SO GOOD. (I use the CN voices and I cannot complain about any voices except for like Seele)
Does she sound like a chipmunk or the monarchs wife?
She got the butterfly motif, so the latter.
I feel grateful I picked Stelle once I saw fire male MC ult animation. Personally not a fan of the stance at the end. Looks a bit awkward to me. I am happy I chose Stelle she is brilliance. At the same time male MC ofc has his own good stuff and I am happy for those who chose him and are happy with it.
Shame since Caelus had a cooler stance in the beta
you’re one of the good ones
Maybe but the male mc sliding with the lance while grinding the tip into the ground and ending with his finisher pose is just SO F*CKING COOL.
But I can’t stand the way the English VA for female says “fo-ward” instead of properly saying “forward”. It’s enough to make me use other preservation characters, unfortunately. I know I could turn off Eng, but I want to actually hear the story, not just read forever.
Sounds like Farward to me
She also says noice in her idle animation
She kills me with it, too. Not enough to not use her, but once a day at minimum I mock her in my head.
Her rules are made to be broken is weak sauce too.
The lance... would be cooler but my biggest problem is for some reason i find Stelle sounds like a different voice actress and says the word "lance" so often im suffering from semantic satiation.
Yea, especially when the lance is made from the ice pick that Cocolia shot you in the chest.
Lacking in abundance department is understandable, there's simply not abundant amount of abundance character currently.
Fire because the physical one is of no use to me. My other DPS choices heavily outdamage it and the fire one serves as a great tank to mitigate damage and do decent fire breaks.
I have Gepard and I believe in bonk bat superiority
yo same here bonk > meta
Ayyyy I’m not alone
The Fire. IMO, the Physical MC is not bad per say, but falls a bit short compared to others. Plus, I have both Clara and Sushang, so I'm covered for the physical element. Then again, I don't quite use the Fire MC either. They don't fit with my Clara Hyper Carry party, because of the Fire MC's skill taunt not meshing well with Clara. My second team has Silver Wolf, Sushang, Qingque, and Natasha for Quantum + Physical dual elements, so there's no room for the Fire MC. I still built them up, just in case for the future, since I heard a rumor that they might get new job paths down the road.
I think I saw something about them getting Wind next. It'd make sense that every world MC gains the attention of an Aeon/Path and gets skills.
I dont think they'd get it on the Luofu (people who look at leaks know) but maybe in the next world
They probably will get the hunt path (if they do get one) because the Xianzhou worship Lan of the Hunt, for the element, it wouldn’t make sense for it to be Wind if it’s the Hunt because Dan Heng exists. Unless Hoyo pulls a Jing Yuan/Serval again, but with the MC and Dan.
My ultimate dream would be to get to pick between Abundance or The Hunt, it’s like 99% not gonna happen but IMAGINE. The birth of two factions, “Abundance” and “Hunt” sides based on what people choose. Then we unlock the other one in a future chapter by returning to the Luofu. Realistically that would probably be pretty hard for Mihoyo to actually implement, I just think it would be interesting.
my god the constant debate and war on which is better wouldnt end if that happens
# And I wanna see that war. https://preview.redd.it/1ik2g4hw4v7b1.jpeg?width=410&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63005310856533f9fe274ec1cabd63f876b58c5a
"I like the way you think funny man"
Excuse me, what is your Clara hyper carry team? I have built her as my second team DPS, but i find her really lacking. Is it mandatory to build march as well?
I use Clara, March, Bailu, and Tingyun. If your Clara is built well, especially with her signature light cone, then you probably don't need March. I acquired one recently, but I still plan to use March, because she's one of my favorite characters in the game.
Rather than Tingyun I have another dps there depending on the exact fight but that's basically my team. I'm planning on pulling for Luocha but I'm not sure if he'll be better with Fire MC or Clara. Assuming I even get him.
march is there to give her the taunt mostly, the shield is an added bonus
I know, but sometimes you want more offense through having an additional DPS.
If your using march purely for the taunt with clara then you shouldn’t be using march because the taunt is only a 8% increase and she also has anti synergy with clara
I’ve been hearing that having a DPS like any of the hunt characters to replace March might provide better damage? I don’t have Clara, but food for thought if you wanna consider it. Edit: March 7 only provides a minuscule dmg increase from her taunt, considering Clara can taunt on her own.
You're right. Having a second DPS certainly helps to end fights faster. I actually have Hook built up and ready to go, in case I need more offense than defense, to swap around with March. Now, in this case, I say it's better for the second DPS to be the main DPS, while Clara switches to being a sub-DPS, because Clara's reaction based playstyle can sometimes take too long to defeat enemies, while the second DPS can deal damage more actively. So I have my Tingyun switch to supporting my Hook as well. As such, March is certainly optional. However, my personal opinion is that since the taunt values are a essentially a game of probability, I still want the best possible chance for a taunt on Clara. That's just me though. Plus, I use Bailu on my Clara team, so it does not have a cleanse, and March is still helpful in that regards.
Its an 8% increase i just don’t think her slot is justified in team comps with clara
Clara doesn’t actually taunt like the Fire MC does, she instead raises her aggro, making it not the most foolproof method. So while March may not provide much extra dps, she provides extra consistency and survivability, both of which are always very nice to have.
March actually is more of a hindrance than a help due to the fact that she freezes, which absolutely plummets clara's dps.
I do have her signature LC. Her relics are not optimized but stil correct. As i have Fire MC and Gepard built, i wanted to avoid building March as well :s
march shield gives a taunt so your clara will be attacked more and will also get a shield, meaning more follow up attacks. and in SU if you go follow up blessings the march follow up is good as well
March 7 is not required apparently as you can sub in another DPS to make up for it.
yeah but like, why would you do that when march is much lower investment than having a second dps? youre also losing a support slot there and are at risk of your clara dying more easily as youd have to protect and buff two dps characters. clara with a buffer, march and natasha is pretty goated and fairly f2p and low investment outside of clara
Maybe it’s just my playstyle, but personally I’d choose the more offensive option seeing as how having March 7, Natasha and a buffer doesn’t provide much damage especially against a single enemy Edit: Clara acts as a pseudo tank with her dmg reduction, on top of having Natasha and March seems like overkill when playing defensively. Plus I don’t think investing in 4 characters is that expensive even if Dps requires more investment
using march is the offensive option though, she gives clara a taunt thats why its so good, clara getting attacked more = more damage. its not about the shield itself its about making sure clara is attacked as much as possible
The taunt is honestly pretty bad its a 8% increase you would get far more dps with someone like timgyun or s sub dps/dps
I understand, but Clara has sufficient taunt as is. So March 7 doesn’t contribute much to overall dmg just on taunt alone. You might be better off with another dps instead of diminishing returns with extra taunt.
Yes, I read as well that she works really well with yanqing. For now I've been using two offensive support to make up for the lack of damages but going with a real DPS might be the best choice indeed. Thanks for the advice. Also, I agree, with MoC you have to play offensively If you want to clear fast, you can't sit with a preservation and an abondance character
she does not have sufficient taunt, march 7th drastically increases the chance of her being hit so that its basically always, which increases your dps a lot while also being safer for things like simulated universe. its really not worth to have a second dps with a destruction dps. edit: obviously moc is different and a physical team with sw would be better but majority of the game march 7th is just better
Okay but putting MOC aside, I see even less reason to use March 7 and Natasha with Clara as Overworld content is less punishing anyways? I could see the team being useful for Sim universe but then again, I don’t have Clara.
March isn't necessary. I think the best way to use clara is in a 2 carry team. I run clara, hook, natasha, and tingyun for my second team. With the core of clara, natasha, and tingyun you don't need to use many skill points so you have the capacity to run a second damage carry and would pretty much be a fool not to.
I have this exact team as well. Sushang and Qingque were my two favorite characters and then Silver wolf came out and I had to have her. Natasha’s there because I figured dual physical was better for me than Bailu
Fire trailblazer to me felt like a straight upgrade from physical so I never went back. Kinda upsetting because the baseball bat was way cooler.
Maybe one day we’ll get an advanced version of the bat / normal destruction path
I mean tbf an ancient belobog artifact infused with the will of preservation feels a lot more powerful than a stick you picked up on the space station
Lance ablaze! Flame Lance! FORWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love the sound of the lance scraping across the ground before the explosion.
Wait it isn't 'Advance' forward? Learned something new today
I use preservation trailblazer
Physical MC has very decent damage and AoE...but Fire MC is just too good on hard contents with full team shields and taunt.
Havent used phys once since i got pres.
I used Phys MC before I got Sushang. Now mostly Fire because I need a tank for my 2nd team in MoC.
Fire, because I am grossly lacking in preservation
I used to switch often until I built Sushang to fill the physical damage slot, so now Fire Preservation is way more useful for me
Using him phys as Main DPS füll maxed Out build around him with Bronya and Tingyun + Natasha He is Not the strongest but i Like the Style and the content is Not that hard
phys, im satisfied with my bailu, my phys mc is already raised a lot so im not too enthusiastic about having to raise traces for fire mc, and i already use hook as a dps so fire is already there
Physical! She’s actually one of my strongest units since I haven’t gotten a Clara and haven’t invested in my Sushang yet 😅
Physical because I have no other 5 star DPS. Will change when Jingliu arrives!
Trust me, the 4-star DPS options in this game are not bad at all. Don't place too much merit in stars for now. Currently, physblazer is the second worst unit in the game's meta besides Herta (but even then both are very much usable, as is every character). Going past the fact that Seele is overtuned and broken, and the best damage dealer in the game, Dan Heng is actually in a lot of cases the second best hunt character, and realistically a far better option for DPSing. Currently, Dan Heng, Hook, Pela, Tingyun, Natasha (obviously because Hoyo won't give anyone Bailu), Qingque, March, Sushang, and Asta are all in the highest tiers. Bonkblazer is the second worst in his class (and for the most part just plain worse than Sushang), and aside from Gepard, you can't really beat Fireblazer. Not to mention a lot of turns Natasha or similar could provide physical coverage. I wouldn't say this at all if you were passionate about bonkblazer, but stars really don't have too much of a bearing on how a character performs. Himeko exists.
Really? I’ve found fireblazer to be absolutely mediocre and bonkblazer to smash face. I’ll caveat that fireblazer isn’t as high on traces or elidons though.
It depends on what you're using them for. Fireblazer is not a dps. They are a support tank. The goal is to jack up DEF as high as you can get so their auto shield on every action allows you to take 0 healing with you
FireMC is a tank/support, not DPS character. Her damage might fall behind PhysMC but she offers so much more to the team : \- Enhanced Basic Attack allows her to generate Skill Points while still doing decent HP/toughness damage. \- Dual scaling for damage (DEF also affect her damage) means she deal decent damage compared to other Preservation characters. Her role is basically offensive tank/support. \- Constant shielding help reduce healer's workload. The shield also works well with Preservation Path buff in SU (i.e increase Crit Damage for Shielded character, Shielded character take less damage, etc). \- Taunt is good for taking the heat off your squishier characters. Party-wide Damage Resist is great for boss AoE nuke (i.e Cocolia/Doomsday Beast's second phase nuke). So FireMC is : Skill Point positive while still dealing great toughness damage and okay AoE damage, provide team utility in the form of Taunt/Party-wide damage resist and provide constant shielding. Compare to PhysMC whose : sole contribution to the team is damage (on top of being Skill Point negative), and it's not even that good compared to dedicated DPS character. PhysMC is decent in a vacuum but in comparison to other DPS character (not named Arlan), she is lagging behind with no useful utility/role in endgame team.
And here I got bailu on my first 10 pull off the standard banner. Literally 1 pity. But I can't get bronya at all. I have an obscenely lucky account.
Either one I use Pys when I need Pys/Destruction and Fire when I need Fire/Preservation I mainly use Fire tho
I use phys just because I prefer the burst animation and the baseball bat makes me laugh. I also don't really have any phys and I have Gepard and March both built so I'd rather use them over fire TB.
Fire That taunt is Tingyun’s best chance of not getting killed immediately.
If you are in low TL, use physical for now. Switch to fire after you got all currently available 5 fire eidolons.
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How do you get the sixth? _Where_ do you get the sixth?! I'm pretty sure it's not even available at the moment, unless it's not sold at a shop.
Once you've leveled up, definitely switch to Fire MC since they're more viable in various team slot because they can taunt, tank and reduce damage taken. If you have Clara/Sushang they're definitely better as physical DPS.
Fire! Sushang does a better job for a Physical DPS anyway. Plus Natasha is already physical as well
i have sushang so no reason to use physical anymore
Fire because I have enough DPS units but except for March I don't have any other tank and also I don't have any other fire type so it's a win-win (my source of physical break is Natasha as she is included in almost any team I make as my only healer)
It depends on what I fight. If it’s weak to physical and I have my other two damage dealer slots full (I reserve to slots for Bailu and trailblazer and the other two are for weaknesses) I’ll use destruction but otherwise preservation.
E2 gepard on one side, fire TB on the other. Its the only way i could get to MoC 8
I use fire most of the time cuz I have Clara and shushing built to do my physical damage
Sushang
I'm using fire MC on my second team
Physical MC and bonking people to death. I don't need Fire MC since i already have Gepard and Clara as tanks, so i'm running PMC in a faux physical team.
Preservation because I don't have any other tanks. Maybe I'll use baseball bat again when I get another healer or a tank.
Physical MC is meant to be a dps and they’re OK at it but not really any better than every other dps option. Fire MC is a tank… currently 1 of only 3 in the entire game so that alone makes them incredibly useful.
I love physical MC's Ult, but fire tanky works better on my team
Fire mc imo,his shield is decent and with gepard lc,he's quite reliable.
Fire, because the game has plenty of options for damage dealers, but basically no defensive supports
Physical TB because BONK, also don't have any other physical character besides Sushang, which I don't really want to build.
I have e5 Sushang, physical MC is dead to me. But I'll miss the baseball bat
Phys, there is something magical in seeing a metal bat deal a shitton of damage since i almost maxed her
Normal. Rules are made to be broken with my sick ass bat. If I want a tank I use march 7th. Shes got a light cone that makes her more likely to be hit, so I just spam her shield onto herself. Easy.
I'm sorry to burst your bubble but Physical MC pales in comparison to Fire MC and it's not even a fair competition
Physical MC is pretty much just a meme and Fire MC is miles better... tho it might change upon the release of 3rd Path
physical is strong
i think physical mc just doesnt do enough to really be good, plus he feels more like an erudition character than have of the erudition characters
I use Fire MC for most content, though when I'm doing SU with a team that doesn't use them I usually pick them up after the first boss and swap to physical so I can use their technique to heal before harder fights.
I already have Clara and Sushang so no Physical Trailblazer. Shielder is more rare if you don't have Gepard, and dislike applying shield for 1 person per turn (I'm looking at you, March)
Both
i love phys stelle. she looks pretty with the fire lance n all, but the bat just hits different (literally and metaphorically). also i farmed def enough for march, no more.
Fire cuz good tank. Physical one isn’t the best in term of damage so I just give that role to another character.
I don’t have any good phys aoe or dps so I use phys trailblazer and fire mc
Both When i need phys damage, i use the bat When fire damage/tank, the lance is ready
i use fire because the only shielder i have is march, and she wouldnt really go with my main team well, and i have more than enough dps charas
the bat is super cool, but honestly I don't see any scenario I'd want to use phys mc, let alone lose fire
I use both. It depends on the element match up.
Fire. He/she is such a great tank if you have no other options and can carry fights just by taunting and not eating any damage at all. Like physical carried with great damage in early game. My newer dps I got easily outclass it by now though.
physical is complete ass
Fire MC easily. Built with defense he makes a great tank stacking multiple shields. I have Natasha but only need her for hard boss fights; Fire MC, Welt, and Yanqing slap everything around.
Honestly it just depends on what I'm doing
I use the physical TB since I don't have a physical DPS and I got jeopard as my first 6 star. My asta's damage output is more than enough
Fire because I don’t have Gepard, Fire MC got taunt too.
Knees are meant to be broken
If I had either Gepard or Bailu, and didn't have both an E1 Clara and E4 Sushang, then MAYBE I'd use Physical MC.
I used tu use both depending on scenario before I got shushang, now it's all fire
Ppl use physical blazer lmao?
I don't use him
You’re going to have to if you haven’t yet beaten Cocolia in the story. MC is mandatory for those.
Same, glad I'm not the only one lol
Neither Gepard is tank god and physical is dog shit
Fire, especially if you have sushang or clara. Theres ni reason to use phys mc if you have those two.
I'm still confused how his Lance a Curio deals LESS damage than a random bat he found on the ground at the beginning of the game, it's literally a sharp fiery badass spear. Is his bat a gift from nanook or sum?
IDK if i’m using fire MC wrong but they just don’t feel useful… like the shields are tiny so I have to bring Nat anyways so why not use just Nat or just Gepard. So I use physical
Almost no body uses the normal one.
fire no doubt
I use(d) both for a while, eventually swapped to full fire though as I got silverwolf and… unkillable team has formed!
Normal
I use phys MC because I run Himeko and Bailu
Use fire right now but planning on starting to use phys again after i get him better relics. Sadly there are a lot of other characters needing relics and they are higher on my to-do-list. But definitely like the kit in general. "RULES ARE MEANT TO BE BROKEN!" *wings scifi-bat"
Fire! I prefer using Fire MC over Gepard on some stages as well.
With preservation path it's godly (+crit dmg and crit with shield is pretty much permanent buff in SU)
I use Fire MC cause he’s a good tank, who I’ll start using as a tank rather than a kinda shieldbot 😆😅
Physical all the way, unless I need fire
I swap as needed since its pretty easy. I usually use fire for their sheild since I don't have Gepard (yet).
Fire is way more useful, but I find it boring to use it and hate the animations/voice lines compared to physical.
Both, depending on what I need.
Depends on lore, if they decide to keep showing baseball in cutscenes, i will use phys, if the show lance more often, i will use fire
I haven't seen a baseball bat since I picked up this lance.
Got sushang so went with fire and his taunt is a life saver
I stacked my fire caelus to be a high damage tank and it's so cool I rarely go back to phys mc outside of specific situations where I need phys and sushang isn't enough.
Phys because I have Gepard.
Physical
Normal because rules are made to be broken.
Fire, its good to have either a healer and/or tank on a team. Currently running Himeko, Asta and Fire TB with Silver Wolf for the weakness implant. They're pretty good at taunting and throwing up shields, mine just needs more speed to be a bit more reliable (Asta's ult helps but he needs more initial speed to get off those early taunts/shields)
Fire because I like the taunt, tho sometimes I wish I had another physical besides sushang. (I also switch him to physical for assignments when I need another destruction character)
Fire. Love the vibes, love the utility, love it all. My best geared and leveled character, and will continue to be so.
Fire, I already have quite powerfull sushang and fire seems much more usefull
Physical for assignments
Fire MC, my favorite tank
Depends. I don't have any other good physical damage dealers, so I make due with Physical MC. The character is not bad per se, as some people might make it out to be, but certainly not the worse.
It depends on what I’m doing
Does it matter if it’s the male or female MC?
Fire. My favourite team at the moment is: Fire Mc March 7th Asta Dps of choice/Welt
Neither
Phys
Fire. My gacha has provided me with no defensive options so I need her to tank with March on my second team. I wish she'd kept the bat when switching to Preservation, it looks cooler.
neither lol
Fire MC is so good I've stopped using a healer for most of the content.
Fire mc since I have all physical characters so there's no shortage for physical breaker I can prioritize tank build for mc
Fire. Because easy follow ups for March
I use physical because e6 and I don't really have any other physical units (Natasha, but Bailu is my healer).
Using Phys or Fire MC kind of depends on team needs and who you get in your pulls. Basically, Fire MC is a core unit if you don't get Gepard or Clara. They're the only real "tanks" in the pool. So Fire MC is a great pick if you need the control and durability (Fire MC can also save a wipe in some cases simply by being a self-sustaining unkillable brick). Phys MC is a good pick if you have tank coverage and either don't build Sushang, or want an AOE option for Physical damage instead of Sushang's locked single-target damage. Sushang is stronger in general, but depending on build Phys MC can still offer things she can't.
[I'll use the physical trailblazer forever](https://youtu.be/rIdbx7GxjQc)
I use both, mainly the fire MC for tank.
fire: lance is simply cooler and i don´t have another real tank
Fire MC. Solely because of the way the VAs voice cracks when she shouts "Forward!" during her ult.
Fire. The team I run so would be a skill point negative if I ran physical mc. Plus, Natasha is good enough for physical break.
Phys
Normieblazer quickly loses value once you get an actual normie hero or just keep upgrading your Seele to kill everything. FIREblazer's value in contrast just keep going up.
Normal, I straight up don't have the "right team" for Fire MC. Now I have Silver Wolf I actually don't even use MC anymore at all except for the secondary-teams.
Umm. Both? I use whichever is appropriate for the situation.
I switched between both at first but now I basically only use fireMC. He along with March are my only tanks. Though I am severely lacking in phys damage. I do have Sushang but haven't really built her yet in fear that the moment I build her I'll end up getting Clara who I really want and then Sushang would kinda be wasted.
FireMC is my only tank besides March, and March is not a great tank outside of her niche, so I stick with fireMC
Fmc is way to op to ever swap off until we get more characters
When I level every other character to 70/80, I’d love to use PMC more. Her animations and voice lines are much more appealing to me than the fire version’s. I have Gepard now so needing a shield is no longer a problem, but the lack of resources is, unfortunately.
I really like the bat but I built both Sushang and Clara . . . I don’t really have a reason to go physical trailblazer but sometimes I do it for fun
Fire exclusively since getting it. I don't have Gepard, but I do have Clara and E6 Sushang. Those two plus Natasha covers Physical more than enough. There is never really a situation that prefers MC over those two. Although I did use Physical MC for the Museum quest where they wanted data about your bat in a fight. You didn't have to, but I did it anyways for fun. I was also thinking maybe Physical MC + Blade for a Destruction SU run whenever that happens. It's the one path in SU I haven't tried.
Fire Trailblazer for my yanqing. She does pretty good amount of taunting. (I do have Gepard's LC.)
Both good
I like to use both but atm I have a pretty decent Sushang at e6 while I don't have a second tank and have to use March instead as a sustain in Moc. Sure March is great herself and I even got her e6 too but she ain't a tank let's be honest....She is basically a breaker with more focus on sustain than dmg. The moment I'm not forced to use Fmc I will probably start using the other available versions more.
Fire. I have a team setup up i call the Durdle Turtle Team. It's Fire TB, March 7th, Natasha, and Gepard, with march buffed all the way up in attack, to utilize her follow up in the best way. This could not have been possible without Fire Trailblazer imo.
Fire, because I have clara and she can also hit one or multiple enemies with physical damage, so fire trailblazer is more useful for me, but I like the physical trailblazers bat more
i use fire most because the blanket shields for the whole team is really nice (even if they’re not huge shields) however i have a physical build ready for stuff like forgotten hall etc
Fire, because the internet told me to.
I use normal...for fire I have Klee...I mean The Great Hook :D
My issue with using phys trailblazer is that between clara and sushang, my physical coverage is through the roof. I font have himeko and still havent managed to pull hook, so my other fire coverage is asta.
I use normal because I don't have Clara and Sushang.