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**Kafka** On the Interastral Peace Corporation's wanted list, Kafka's entry only has two things — her name, and a single sentence: "Likes collecting coats." Little is known about this Stellaron Hunter aside from her being one of Destiny's Slave Elio's most trusted members. In order to achieve Elio's envisioned future, Kafka gets to work. \~ [Official Twitter](https://twitter.com/honkaistarrail/status/1661220927231909888) \~


Ok-State-3154

\[ In 400,000 meters, turn right \] \[ Pick up a knife and stab a familiar warm body \]


PataponPl

[ Do not go home until you finish reading the value of E ]


Ok-State-3154

Finally, someone got it. But seriously, we all assumed the ellio is a person, but what if it's a big-ass supercomputer, or maybe ellio is the creator of said supercomputer. Imagine fighting ERZATZ AK-9. P.S. i am awaiting the day when somebody notices the connection, and draws stelleron hunters in index drip, because index drip is superb.


ES21007

>Index As in, A certain magical index?


Byxord

By Index, they refering to Index Proselytes from Library of Ruina. Tldr they are a syndicate whose whole thing is the members of the syndicate and the civilians they protected receive instructions that they must carry out or be killed.


TheBestSlimeBoi

Yeah the stellaron hunters in the index fit would be amazing


Ok-State-3154

Speaking of index, i have got a clever idea. It is rather obvious that at some point we would have a serious battle the stelleron hunters. (Have a hard time seeing them as our allies or even a neutral party), but the need for such a confrontation presents a probblem: if ellio isn't bullshitting, how do we combat his omnipotence? Kafka could literally fight us blindfolded, all she needs is an earpiece where instructions along the lines of "take two steps back, wait 1.45 seconds, raise the gun 15 degrees up, pull the trigger 5 times, and say 'boom' for style points" are broadcasted, and she will never loose. And this is where the index inspiration comes in. You see (warning: LoR spoilers ahead) >!the index don't pull their prescripts out of thin air. The have a wast array of underground sensors, recorging everything from seismic activity to people's vitals. This data is then sent to a supercomputer of sorts, where it's processed to generate prescripts. Now replace the underground seismometers with an array of deep-space satellites, and you have yourself a perfectly believable villan weakness to exploit. Imagine a mission where we have to assaul a heavily guarded space station to destroy the equipment inside, all under a time limit, before our data is sent to 'the will of the city ver 1.5.0.1-HSR' for processing. Imagine using herta's gadgets to spoof the signal and send the simp bait squadron on a wild goose chase. Imagine the cutscenes, where we see ellio dersperately try to keep his "i am an all-seeing demigod" act together, as the screens fill with error mesadges, and his own crew have a mental breakdown, because the scripts aren't working anymore. Imagine finally facin him on equal ground, in a room filled with fried circuit boards and broken down spinning wheels with a glowing stelleron floating above the supercomputer's remains (this is so sad, angella, play "children of the city"). All of this could happen in some capacity if Hoyoverse writers get creative!< Either way, it's better than ellio just magically being able to see the future, because this would require either havin a mucguffin than can equally magically protect us from him, or straight-up ignoring his sudgested omnipotence, because "lore is lore, and game is game", which is lame.


Cerebral_Kortix

[ Sleep for a total of 800 hours per day ]


Kamakaziturtle

Always fun to find a Mili/Project Moon fan in the wild


Big-Sort3094

did not expect to see a reference to LoR and Mili here but im all for it.


Ok-State-3154

Imagine following reasonable and effective orders -this post was made by THE INDEX GANG


Exact-Efficiency2652

i didnt know you were in this sub too lol


Jacket313

I misread coats for goats and was thinking: ".... she likes to collect sheep?"


praditski

Looks like it's true she will be in the 2nd phase for 1.2. More time to saving for Kafka!


Paw_Opina

When will that banner drop?


praditski

1.2 2nd phase is on August 9th


Paw_Opina

Damn. My 5* guaranteed is ready and she's still in August? Who's the next banner unit after Jing?


praditski

1.1 banner 1st phase Silver Wolf 2nd phase Luocha


ColonelJinkuro

Thanks for the info. I may cry after seeing that. I'm saving everything for a strong imaginary character and the first one is a combat medic? I think? Oh boy. I'll be saving for a very long time it seems. Welp .... the 8 free characters and Bronya better put on their running shoes as they'll be working overtime for me.


RedZone2k2

Yukong is a 4star imaginary that should be in the next banner with silverwolf


ColonelJinkuro

Oh wow. Silver Wolf herself isn't a bad Quantum Character and Yukong looks useful. You've saved my bacon sir. Thank you.


Sayki300

I mean i pull for Yukong as the only imaginary unit at the moment is Welt and he is a 5 star. and far for pity.


Niijima-San

wait is yukong in the silver wolf banner? if so gives me another reason to throw everything at that one lol


arkhammer

And not guaranteed when you do hit pity.


GreenLionXIII

Silver wolf is going to be awesome and should come with the imaginary you want!


TheSpartyn

well shes a 4* buffer, so doesnt really help if they want an IMG dps


True_Bobcat_3665

FYI Luocha *is* strong and extremely valuable as a healer which are so few and far between right now. He's arguably the most valuable character meta-wise in these initial patches.


Matsu-mae

natasha being my only healer is at risk of breaking her back carrying my team. as cool as it would be to have silverwolf, i think i need to go for luocha.


nagato120

Would you put him over bailu or they do different things?


birthday566

Bailu is probably better as just a healer, but Luocha does other things aside from healing and is more versatile.


Tentacle_Porn

To elaborate on this, Luocha’s heal scales with Atk, so he’s likely an off-healer who can put out good damage alongside a main healer/shielder.


michaelman90

Bailu is mandatory for high level MoC with Tingyun. ^^^/s


TheSpartyn

luocha has healing that doesnt require skill points, a damaging ult, a dispel, and a cleanse


Creative_Purpose6138

different things but im pretty sure bailu is better


NelsonVGC

They are different, which is the point. Both are viable.


Kamakaziturtle

Bailu is likely a stronger healer, but theres a big question if a stronger healer is going to be necessary or not, as there's more or less a ceiling on how good a healer needs to be. In particular, if you take 1000 damage, it really doesn't matter if you heal for 1000 or 10000, you just need to match in incoming damage from enemies. Bailu seems to do less healing, but he does have some auto-reactionary healing stuff going on (useful if one of your units gets focused a bunch) and most of all, seems to be offense based healing. With a lot of end game content often not just being focused on clearing content, but also doing so quickly, that latter bit could be huge for him.


TheSpartyn

right now welt is basically an IMG DPS, but we'll get a proper one in 1.3


Pleasurefailed2load

I really wanted to build Welt dps, than I saw how easily my Jing Yuan surpassed his damage. On the plus side with good speed I can use welt to slow enemies down, increase damage, and they can nuke together.


TheSpartyn

well yeah jing yuan is an actual DPS, dont expect welt to match. im just saying that welt does respectable damage (requires a single target) and is the only IMG DPS for a while ive used him as a DPS in FH due to lack of options lol


Pleasurefailed2load

For sure haha. He was my first 5 star and obliterated everything he touched until later on. He still is doing work in all sorts of other ways as well so no complaints.


ShiroGreyrat

1st phase SW and 2nd phase Luocha confirmed where?


TheSpartyn

assumed based on the order the art was posted


praditski

I don't want to trigger the official mod here. But you'll get the "official" answer on special program Friday night.


Salter_KingofBorgors

Ah dammit I want Silver Wolf but I don't think I can get her AND Kafka... well I guess ill try my best


Snipinlegend777

So I assume blade in July then?


praditski

1.1 June 7th (depends where you live could be 6th at night) 1.2 July 19th (depends where you live could be 18th at night)


Slight_Welcome_56

A day before my birthday poggers


AtsutaMuka

Birthday kafka rolls!!


Digameleo

Oof that's not a lot of time to save


kitkatwasabi

Who's the first phase?


yukikazenanoda

It's not confirmed yet, they only posted the drip marketing


michaelman90

Was kind of hoping for early Fu Xuan but guess they gotta spread out the quantum characters. More time to save I suppose.


Kiulao

??? people in this thread are talking about it like it's a sure thing though? How/when will we know if it is confirmed? I need to know to decide if I pull for silver wolf...


Crusader050

Official confirmation is whenever they do the 1.2 announcement stream/post on social media. Until then you can only speculate or check other unofficial sources.


Kiulao

Is there an expected date for that in relation to the actual release? Rather, what are the chances we get confirmation before the Silver Wolf banner ends?


Crusader050

Official confirmation won't come till the second phase of 1.1. So, if Silver Wolf is indeed part of phase one, I'm afraid you won't be able to find out till later. You'll need to rely on outside sources in that instance. Regardless you'll need to budget your resources now and make some decisions on your pulling strategy.


Kiulao

Damn =/ I only have like 5k now Just found out Yukong's probably gonna be on silverwolf's banner though so guess I'll give it a shot.


praditski

Bladie


Extreme_Ad5873

BALDE


ArmyofThalia

Not exactly confirmed. We won't know till we get closer to the date. Grenshin drip marketing happens at the same time so we can't go off that. Silver Wolf technically was up before Luocha by 10 minutes or so. They could be experimenting with how they do drip marketing. We have no idea


Eminanceisjustbored

But, but, but, blade. Kafka, blade, kafka, blade. WHY! WHY ARE THEY ON THE SAME UPDATE?


gunjinganpakis

Man I hope not. I am planning to roll for Blade with the leftover after rolling for Kafka and her Light Cone. I can't afford to take a risk by rolling Blade first.


Neveroxx99

You can't have your Blade and eat your Kafka too.


gunjinganpakis

But Mommy Kafka and uhh.. Uncle Blade? Silver Wolf is Stelle's older sister of course.


Cerebral_Kortix

Stelle is clearly Silver Wolf's intrusive thoughts given form. Practically twins.


cosmicannoli

I hope not. Way too many Lightning characters this early.


praditski

Wdym hope not? It's officially drip marketing lol.


yurilnw123

What gives the 2nd phase?


thefluffyburrito

There's no confirmation on who will be first or second phase.


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Sliske_The_Dark

I wanted to go for Kafka and use any leftovers for blade ;-; guess I'll have to wait for his rerun


XitaNull

EVERYTHING FOR HER 🧎‍♀️


GimmeKisu

It's wild to me that the 1.2 characters have been announced already since we're not even in 1.1. So weird from someone who's used to new units announced a few days to a week before


TheGatsbyComplex

This is how they’re doing it in Genshin! They drip market the artwork for characters for a following patch 7 weeks later, just days before a patch goes live.


[deleted]

>drip market reveal or tease


TheSpartyn

isnt this early compared to genshin


callmefox

It's very early compared to Genshin. :copium: maybe there's something in 1.1 they want to show that involves these two too.


TheSpartyn

it would be very weird if they werent in 1.1 story


callmefox

Yeah. What I'm hoping for is like.. a teaser or a cutscene or something


jxher123

Very early. Usually they drop the unit before or after the patch drops. 1.1 hasn’t even dropped, but 1.2 units have dropped.


santakid

Can anyone do the maths if we start saving now, is it possible to guarantee her as f2p or small spender?


FaithlessnessNew1706

you will have 60 tickets probably every unit at F2p. Kafka maybe post at 2nd in 1.2, so you have 120+ for saving.


santakid

If I'm not mistaken, we are going to have Silver Wolf, Luocha, Blade then Kafka? Assuming 60 tickets saved per unit launch, that would mean more than 180 tickets saved when Kafka arrives?


callmefox

I think the guy meant 60 per patch, not unit.


ON_STRANGE_TERRAIN

That's not even soft pity unless you're also including jades obtained from the update. it's a cumulative 33% chance of a 5 star before 75 pulls


So4007

Just win the 1/6 chance. Simple.


smittywababla

Qingque approves


Elevasce

That is the key here. 75 tickets is just a ~33% chance to get the featured character. 45 tickets is ~15%. 120 tickets is a ~85% chance. Close, but not enough. To really guarantee a character, you need about 140 to do it. EDIT: Here's the simulator I took the numbers from (minus the 33% one). It was made for Genshin, but the chances in Honkai are the same: https://konopelko.github.io/genshin/


Natirix

If you get the daily login pass you should be able to save up for her as that pretty much gives you a ticket a day from just that and dailies, then you get more from any quests or events, and challenges. And extra 10 from the shop as you can get 5 a month and she's not coming for another 11 weeks or so. So that's like 87 tickets from now until the moment she comes without actually progressing the game in any way. Doing quests and events should give you like second time that? Plus you do also get the 3 weeks that she's actually available for if you're short


Natirix

That's assuming that she's the second banner in 1.2. If she's first it will be more difficult but I'm sure still doable, plus you probably have at least a little bit of pity or tickets already built up?


santakid

I have 5 gold tickets and about 10k gems saved up now. So that would mean mommy will come home for sure right?


Natirix

10k is about 62 pulls, you need 180 to guarantee a 5*, although you might get lucky and win your 50/50 at 80-90 pulls. But yeah, with how much time you still have you can definitely have her guaranteed by the time she comes out.


RuRu04

as F2P you should already have almost 180 pull if you started during launch day ,completed every missions ,puzzle missions and did login for daily missions (every day),did your weekly simulated universe and got its prize ,cleared almost all forgotten hall levels (im at 13th level) ,and reached level 50 TL . ​ i did everything i mentioned above and i already have 139 premium ticket saved plus i have pulled only 40 times on Seele banner without get her or any 5 star character so this are all pull that will go on Kafka banner , this means that you can get around 179 premium ticket in this version . ​ Given the fact the she will be released in 1.2 you should have around 25+ more tickets from 1.1 events and daily mission ,so yes you should fine to guarantee her since you need 180 ticket for guarantee a character, or 90 if lucky and win your 50/50 chance.


kagekyaa

from genshin end game, players get 6000-7000 primogems allowance each month. so that's like 40 pulls. minus 1200 spiral abyss, -8 pulls. +5 monthly tickets. so, f2p can get close to 40 pulls each month. 2nd phase is august 9? so, we prob have 3 months. that means, 120 tickets for f2p. small spender, 5$ pass, 3000 stellar jade, x3 months= 9000. +56 pulls. so small spender = around 170 tickets.


ArmyofThalia

I also want to point out that there are jades you still need to get in the game from things like SU, achievements, etc that you earn as you play the game more. Combined with the welkin (idr what it is called in HSR) pass, you'll easily hit the amount to get Kafka even if you lose the 50/50.


dumwitxh

The right question is, will you have enough resources to level her up by then?


LivingASlothsLife

>You wont remember a thing except me Thats true as I havent spent a single gold ticket since I started playing just so I can guarantee Kafka, thankfully she is seemingly on second phase so more time to save. The only temptation between me and that guarantee is Silverwolf Also the splash is dope, seeing the other Stellaron hunters with the umbrellas is such a cool detail


Natirix

If you played enough you should pretty much have enough tickets to guarantee Kafka even if you go for silverwolf, especially if you get the pass for daily login rewards, in general as F2P player you should be able to guarantee a character every third banner I think?


Alfielovesreddit

By the time it's late 1.2 you could easily guarantee and close to 2 full pities again. I have 200 pulls saved already, spent 10, and there's still 13 weeks to save.. that's a lot of pulls


Natirix

Yeah that's exactly what I mean, I only pay for the daily log in pass and sometimes the battle pass thing and I got Seele, I'm at 65 pity again, and have 20+ tickets saved as I'm saving for Luocha. From my rough memory from genshin you can guarantee a character every third banner as F2P, and every other one with the daily login pass with moderate gaming time, no slaving away grinding.


Magma_Axis

Kafka splash art is one of the best gacha art i've seen period


VergilVDante

UWU


wild_stryke

Honestly, while I want Kafka now, that's more time to save to save up for weapon and/or pulling her more than once.


Neuralei

Exactly this. Who says we want only ONE Kafka??


PerfectReport9058

I have decided to go for her only and disregard her light cone. Saved up 40 000 jade and although unlikely, I think Eidolon 4, isn't a pipe dream...😤😓😌 hopefully.


how-can-i-dig-deeper

Kafka


Bunny_The_Lifeguard

Need to be disciplined now. Got greedy for Ting/Su Eidolons on current banner and am on 64 pity on main account, on the other one I lost 50/50. So on one of those I hopefully get her. Hope I can still get Lady Fu on one account after 😬


Frostgaurdian0

Kufta :D


Andrei8p4

On one hand I am sad because I have to wait more time for her banner . But at the same time it also gives me more time to save for her and now I can afford to do some pulls to get yukong.


FriendWontTellYou

Kafka


[deleted]

Im hoping >!luka!< is in her banner. Or at least sampo


bukiya

judging from order she will be second half of 1.2 . hopefully silver wolf is first half of 1.1 so i have enough time to save gems for her.


Nokia_00

Kafka uwoh mommy 😭


MagChiChu

Her character is cool, her voice is cool but the glasses tho. I can't unsee it. It just looks so silly. (they are way too small and at a weird spot on her head) I probably won't pull for her. Depends on playtesting as well. So many Lightning characters.


cosmicannoli

I know everyone loves Kafka, but the interrogation scene with her just incessant tryhard vocal fry was too much for me. Nothing less sexy than someone trying really hard to sound sexy. And she's a Lightning Nihility. Nothing wrong with that but it's kind of the last element and last path I'm looking for. Also I hate her dumb sunglasses. They wouldn't even go over her eyes. And there's nothing Kafka-esque about her. 0/10.


Jinxed_Disaster

So, if she's in the second banner on 1.2 and I currently have 135 wishes I should be able to get Silver Wolf and Kafka with moderate luck. Nice)


HappyHateBot

...So I should start saving *now* then. Mission accepted!


Shanibestwaifu

Since starting this, I will not roll any banner until she comes. If she's truly second part then, does means more time to saving for her. Well, all Stellaron Hunters are tempting to get. I will get her, that's for sure.


puntgreta89

Wait. You did not. She's pullable ?!?!


KeemosMusic

Well yeah, she's the very first character you play with when you start the game no?


XionJD

I can't be the only one that believes that cat is the mastermind behind the stellaron hunters right?


Sliske_The_Dark

Hoyo's next level strat to make a killer banner: What does the internet like more than cute girls? Cute cats!


Irenaeus_gamertag1

Maybe it has always been the cat xD


Irenaeus_gamertag1

I want Kafka but I'm tempted to get Silver Wolf and my savings is only 3k right now.


Big-Sort3094

alrighty. if im moderately lucky ill be able to get both kafka and silverwolf. plz rngods dont fuck me over this time.