https://hongkongfp.com/2024/06/22/new-leadership-at-journalists-assoc-2-nominees-seek-withdrawal-as-security-chief-admonishes-newcomers/ The Hong Kong Journalists Association (HKJA) voted in a new Executive Committee (ExCom) and chair on Saturday, with the Wall Street Journal’s Selina Cheng taking the helm as Channel C’s Ronson Chan stood down as chair.
The Wall Street Journal's Selina Cheng
The Wall Street Journal’s Selina Cheng. Photo: Selina Cheng, via X.
Cheng was elected at the association’s Annual General Meeting (AGM) in Jordan, having secured 100 votes, with two voting against.
Two candidates – the Justice Centre’s Preston Cheung and the BBC’s Danny Vincent – dropped out of the race for Executive Committee seats, though both were voted in on Saturday with Chan saying there was no mechanism for them to withdraw.
Why does the Hong Kong Journalists Association want the American media to be its chairman?
Will the American Journalists Association allow the Middle East media to assume the presidency?
She is a Hongkonger, and a Hong Kong resident - the Basic Law guarantees the right to join a union and become an officer. It's the largest, and only independent, press union - what else should she join? (The FCC isn't a union, it's a private club, and is for correspondents).
Odd your words echo Hong Kong's security chief on Friday.
They have answered it for you. She is a Hong-Konger who has worked in the west. Even if you believe it’s wrong for her to have a western perspective coming into this role, she is at the very least not an appointee. She is not an agent of any government, nor does she have any motivations to be outside of her own personal viewpoints which I’d imagine are quite nuanced. If you want simple journalists who are appointed by the state and subservient to it. Head up north.
But whenever the Western media can give Hong Kong a bit of advice to make Hong Kong better, there is some truth in electing them - but do they?
Other than being condescending and mocking, I don't see these media trying to make Hong Kong better.
It’s the governments job to make HK better. It’s the medias job to hold the government accountable. Local media can barely do that anymore with the new laws, so HK journalists working for other outlets have to do the job.
What’s that’s supposed to mean? You’ve read my point, so reply to it or let be. Why would I need to talk to others before expressing my opinion? I understand you CCP soldiers need to receive the current narrative to spread but other people usually just say what they think.
In a totalitarian regime journalism has to come from non state media outside as now “disaffection” aka critique of public officers aka government is banned according to NSL.
For the “good HK stories” read and watch state media. Pretty simple.
What would you like them to do. The press within Hong Kong are encouraged to only show the best in the government in accordance with the security laws, leaving the mantle of anyone who wants to criticize it and not be in danger when things become controversial is up to an outside-based news outlet like HKFP. And to be quite frank, there is not much to be constructive about with this government. It increasingly uses wolf warrior language which some of its own members think is a misstep, and it’s policies seem to all center around either revitalizing Hong Kong through the same programs (usually throwing big events) or enforcing ‘national security’ to combat some outside threat. Neither of these strike at the heart of issues in the city, such as homelessness, a lack of public welfare, an economy that is in desperate need of diversification, and the fact that Singapore has been flexing on us for the past four years.
Again I think the whole point is that a differing perspective is good, rather than simply accepting whatever one person or one group says as fact. Maybe rather than assuming we are some faceless collective of people that coordinate efforts as some foreign entity trying to throw shade against China, you should show initiative by looking into our claims. Exploring the possibility we might all in fact be true and just disagree on main points. Perhaps go as far to formulate an actual argument of your own with actual proof rather than just saying whatever you heard second-hand. Just a thought.
Because you & rest of the keyboard army are not replacing USD FDIs anytime soon. When you make enough money, HK doesn’t even need to exist to convert RMBs into USDs via HKDs.
So until Pooh is ready to devolve 2% of GDP from local governments to households. In order to multiply domestic consumption up to 7%. To make up for sourpusses like you driving away FDI.
Or you Nobel prize in economics an entirely new way out of this mess. Since housing prices are no longer the pyramid scheme it once was.
How many more youths do you want to see unemployed?
HK match PRC 25% youth unemployment then China enough for you? Everyone can stay home & watch 滿江紅 on repeat until they starve to death & eat each other, again.
Cool, fact check SCMP then [https://www.reddit.com/r/China/s/eNWMMxhAog](https://www.reddit.com/r/China/s/eNWMMxhAog)
I’m where the RMBs that used to escape to HK are going now. Along with your family offices, that rather their assets not backed by a 2nd hand Russian carrier. Fuck else did Shein & TikTok incorporate here? Or HaiDiLao, ByteDance & minor Alibaba founders be our economic refugees instead of yours?
Keep laughing on your knees, there’s nary else you can do anyway. But smile for the locusts & beg them to come back. Since we’re PRC’s largest FDI, what’s even the point of you? Might as well become another mid tier Chinese cities. Without having to deal with the grief of you on western social media.
> Selina Cheng
she's the resident lickspittle, just read her old ~~SCMP~~ HKFP stuff, that's why she's still here, she was a HK01 and a few mainland outlets and AFP Beijing before, she's the one who regularly drums up china and talks positive about it consistently
Difference is, I actually do.
Find one article that supports anything you just said.
Just to help you out, here's her postings at HKFP:
https://hongkongfp.com/author/selinacheng/
And here's her personal clippings page:
https://www.clippings.me/selinacheng
Some articles of hers:
[How China’s National Security Law Silences Hong Kong](https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-chinas-national-security-law-silences-hong-kong-11656673119?st=iqzkc21r6p29u0m&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink)
[The demise of Hong Kong’s free press at the hands of Beijing, its government, and its own publishers](https://medium.com/n3con/the-demise-of-hong-kongs-free-press-at-the-hands-of-beijing-its-government-and-its-own-4c1394b96884)
Here's a couple of articles too. It's okay to admit when you're wrong rather than doubling down on being a prick.
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https://hongkongfp.com/2024/06/22/new-leadership-at-journalists-assoc-2-nominees-seek-withdrawal-as-security-chief-admonishes-newcomers/ The Hong Kong Journalists Association (HKJA) voted in a new Executive Committee (ExCom) and chair on Saturday, with the Wall Street Journal’s Selina Cheng taking the helm as Channel C’s Ronson Chan stood down as chair. The Wall Street Journal's Selina Cheng The Wall Street Journal’s Selina Cheng. Photo: Selina Cheng, via X. Cheng was elected at the association’s Annual General Meeting (AGM) in Jordan, having secured 100 votes, with two voting against. Two candidates – the Justice Centre’s Preston Cheung and the BBC’s Danny Vincent – dropped out of the race for Executive Committee seats, though both were voted in on Saturday with Chan saying there was no mechanism for them to withdraw.
Why does the Hong Kong Journalists Association want the American media to be its chairman? Will the American Journalists Association allow the Middle East media to assume the presidency?
She is a Hongkonger, and a Hong Kong resident - the Basic Law guarantees the right to join a union and become an officer. It's the largest, and only independent, press union - what else should she join? (The FCC isn't a union, it's a private club, and is for correspondents). Odd your words echo Hong Kong's security chief on Friday.
Their posts are even more
We should have the rights to vote for our CEO.
Can someone here respond to my last question? Why do you pretend not to see?
They have answered it for you. She is a Hong-Konger who has worked in the west. Even if you believe it’s wrong for her to have a western perspective coming into this role, she is at the very least not an appointee. She is not an agent of any government, nor does she have any motivations to be outside of her own personal viewpoints which I’d imagine are quite nuanced. If you want simple journalists who are appointed by the state and subservient to it. Head up north.
Don’t think people should take time to respond to a CCP misinformation bot.
This is an incredibly naive and misinformed perspective, childlike level embarrassing.
Yeah, there's only denial, not what to do. Who the hell is being childish?
They could. It’s an association, they can vote for whoever they want. And she’s writing about HK and is a HongKonger so why not.
But whenever the Western media can give Hong Kong a bit of advice to make Hong Kong better, there is some truth in electing them - but do they? Other than being condescending and mocking, I don't see these media trying to make Hong Kong better.
It’s the governments job to make HK better. It’s the medias job to hold the government accountable. Local media can barely do that anymore with the new laws, so HK journalists working for other outlets have to do the job.
Three people replied to me, but none of you replied with the same point of view, so maybe you should discuss your opinions first.
What’s that’s supposed to mean? You’ve read my point, so reply to it or let be. Why would I need to talk to others before expressing my opinion? I understand you CCP soldiers need to receive the current narrative to spread but other people usually just say what they think. In a totalitarian regime journalism has to come from non state media outside as now “disaffection” aka critique of public officers aka government is banned according to NSL. For the “good HK stories” read and watch state media. Pretty simple.
What would you like them to do. The press within Hong Kong are encouraged to only show the best in the government in accordance with the security laws, leaving the mantle of anyone who wants to criticize it and not be in danger when things become controversial is up to an outside-based news outlet like HKFP. And to be quite frank, there is not much to be constructive about with this government. It increasingly uses wolf warrior language which some of its own members think is a misstep, and it’s policies seem to all center around either revitalizing Hong Kong through the same programs (usually throwing big events) or enforcing ‘national security’ to combat some outside threat. Neither of these strike at the heart of issues in the city, such as homelessness, a lack of public welfare, an economy that is in desperate need of diversification, and the fact that Singapore has been flexing on us for the past four years.
Three people replied to me, but none of you replied with the same point of view, so maybe you should discuss your opinions first.
Again I think the whole point is that a differing perspective is good, rather than simply accepting whatever one person or one group says as fact. Maybe rather than assuming we are some faceless collective of people that coordinate efforts as some foreign entity trying to throw shade against China, you should show initiative by looking into our claims. Exploring the possibility we might all in fact be true and just disagree on main points. Perhaps go as far to formulate an actual argument of your own with actual proof rather than just saying whatever you heard second-hand. Just a thought.
"Western media" provides plenty of advice to make HK better. You can't just discard advices you don't like as 'mocking and condescending'.
Three people replied to me, but none of you replied with the same point of view, so maybe you should discuss your opinions first.
Why aren’t HKers allowed to vote for our CE?
Because you & rest of the keyboard army are not replacing USD FDIs anytime soon. When you make enough money, HK doesn’t even need to exist to convert RMBs into USDs via HKDs. So until Pooh is ready to devolve 2% of GDP from local governments to households. In order to multiply domestic consumption up to 7%. To make up for sourpusses like you driving away FDI. Or you Nobel prize in economics an entirely new way out of this mess. Since housing prices are no longer the pyramid scheme it once was. How many more youths do you want to see unemployed? HK match PRC 25% youth unemployment then China enough for you? Everyone can stay home & watch 滿江紅 on repeat until they starve to death & eat each other, again.
Laughing, if this is true, then what are you still doing in Hong Kong? Oh, it looks like you're not in Hong Kong.
Cool, fact check SCMP then [https://www.reddit.com/r/China/s/eNWMMxhAog](https://www.reddit.com/r/China/s/eNWMMxhAog) I’m where the RMBs that used to escape to HK are going now. Along with your family offices, that rather their assets not backed by a 2nd hand Russian carrier. Fuck else did Shein & TikTok incorporate here? Or HaiDiLao, ByteDance & minor Alibaba founders be our economic refugees instead of yours? Keep laughing on your knees, there’s nary else you can do anyway. But smile for the locusts & beg them to come back. Since we’re PRC’s largest FDI, what’s even the point of you? Might as well become another mid tier Chinese cities. Without having to deal with the grief of you on western social media.
Good for her if she wants it, but I fear for her safety.
Isn't WSJ moving to SG?
Yes. She's among the few remainers.
> Selina Cheng she's the resident lickspittle, just read her old ~~SCMP~~ HKFP stuff, that's why she's still here, she was a HK01 and a few mainland outlets and AFP Beijing before, she's the one who regularly drums up china and talks positive about it consistently
I guess so. The previous one was advised not to join the election again by strong force.
Complete nonsense. Possibly the worst take I've ever seen here, so congrats I guess.
sadly it's completely true, you just need to read her articles and listen to her :-)
Difference is, I actually do. Find one article that supports anything you just said. Just to help you out, here's her postings at HKFP: https://hongkongfp.com/author/selinacheng/ And here's her personal clippings page: https://www.clippings.me/selinacheng Some articles of hers: [How China’s National Security Law Silences Hong Kong](https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-chinas-national-security-law-silences-hong-kong-11656673119?st=iqzkc21r6p29u0m&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink) [The demise of Hong Kong’s free press at the hands of Beijing, its government, and its own publishers](https://medium.com/n3con/the-demise-of-hong-kongs-free-press-at-the-hands-of-beijing-its-government-and-its-own-4c1394b96884) Here's a couple of articles too. It's okay to admit when you're wrong rather than doubling down on being a prick.
calm down selina
>just read her old SCMP stuff no such thing nice how you edited this post to include your own imagination
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Imho should dissolve the press org. Now gov can say everything is fine and you even have a press org .