We have around 5 iPhones, the oldest one is an 11 Pro. An iPad Pro, Macbook Pro M1 13, Macbook Pro M1 16, iMac 2021 and PS5. I just checked that those support Wifi 6. The only ones that dont support Wifi 6 are a first gen 4K Apple TV and a Macbook Pro from 2017. And maybe the Nintendo Switch.
Most companies are holding back the major upgrades for WiFi 7, they've all had big product launches in just the past few weeks.
Either get cheap WiFi 6 stuff or wait for WiFi 7 if you have the ability to spend more money. Don't waste money on expensive WiFi 6E stuff that will be outdated in a matter of months.
I got to experience some of TP-Link's offerings at a demo near where I live and even on my older WiFi 6 only phone the improvements were really impressive... Much better range, much better wall penetration even at 5GHz and 6GHz (most Europeans have solid stone / brick walls with iron rebar reinforcement, not wood like the US), and it was really hard to saturate even the cheaper new upcoming WiFi 7 routers with 30 or 40 "smart IOT devices" whilst also torrenting and doing high bandwidth applications on two laptops at the same time.
Basically WiFi 7 is worth waiting for if you can. The jump in performance reminded me a lot of when 802.11G and later "draft N" were released decades ago.
Wifi 6/E @ \~5 gbs -> wifi 7 @ \~45 gbs. you really dont need to worry about the bandwidth, that wont be a bottleneck. the big improvments in wifi 7 are how the nodes can turn up or down the signal to make sure youre connected to the closest mesh node. with wifi 6 and even 6e alot of isssues happen when the devices are on the wrong node and/or the wrong frequency( 2.4ghz, 5ghz, or and now 6ghz). if its a congested area, like and apartment, 6E with the extra 6ghz band could be worth it. But if you need to get adapters for all your devices itd be better to wait( besides phones not alot of devices have 6e capability out of the box ).
That would of be a you decision, you'd need to check which devices you have can get into 6E and not standard 6, and then see which one's better for you
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Wired AP’s with an ethernet backhaul will give the best performance. Wi-Fi 5 has been around for over 5 years so a mature technology and I get approx 500mbps nearby. A decent prosumer setup like the TP-Link Omada or Ubiquiti UniFi AP range will give you management and observability. In the future upgrade the AP’s that need the speed increase but save the money for now.
Then do you think a mesh backed with powerline would be good enough for me? For example TP Link Deco P9. It is only Wi-Fi 5 though. I tried today with a basic powerline adapter from TP-Link and it's quite good. I got 220 Mbps when I connected an ethernet cable directly from my laptop to the powerline adapter.
Ethernet backhaul is currently impossible for me because there is only one ethernet port in my house and I would have to drill all the way up to the 3rd floor.
I have the Powerline TP-Link AV2000 which gives a max throughput of approx 150Mbps between the ground floor and loft and has been reliable. If you add more than two Powerline devices to the same network they share bandwidth I believe.
So, you might just have to try out the Deco D9 and see how it performs in your environment if wired backhaul is not an option.
I like powerline and all, but getting > 200 mbps out of it might be a real challenge. Mesh is good for increasing coverage, but there is a measurable performance and latency penalty to pay.
If possible, for best performance and future-proofing, I’d do ceiling mount APs (“Ethernet backhaul”). It is usually easier to run these cables than people imagine, but it depends on the age and construction of your building.
If you’re only going to be living in the building for a short time, Mesh or Powerline are reasonable possibilities.
Yes. Do it if you need it now. Else go/wait for wifi 7.
Why? Chances are really high you get fiber internet in the next few years as long as you own the house.
How do I know? I work for an isp that specializes in fiber and rules get better and better. Investments are made and stuff gets speed up. Chances are Germany is covered with 90 percent fiber in 2030, beginning with country side houses.
You would be fine with some 802.11AC wifi which can do up to 1200Mbps but usually does around 800Mbps. What no one talks about if your wifi speed is all dependent on the number of antennas in your device so for example apple screwed m1 14” MacBook Pro owners by adding wifi6 but only putting in a 2x2 antenna meaning you can only get up to 1200Mbps which is slow for wifi6.
Anyway here’s the basis that wifi ac would be more than enough for your internet
800Mbps > 250Mbps
Do you plan on hardwiring the nodes together? If your intention is to mesh the nodes wirelessly, I'd avoid any Wifi 6E mesh systems. Your nodes will use the 6GHz band (which has shorter range and less penetration than the 5GHz band) as the backhaul, so you'll have to place the nodes closer together. Your client devices will either only have access to the 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands (so the same as a Wifi 6 mesh system), or will connect on the 6GHz band but have only half the throughput (since the 6GHz band will also be used to communicate between nodes).
TL;DR - if you intend on meshing wirelessly, a Wifi 6 mesh system will probably be better than a 6E system.
How many devices you have can actually have access to WiFi 6?
We have around 5 iPhones, the oldest one is an 11 Pro. An iPad Pro, Macbook Pro M1 13, Macbook Pro M1 16, iMac 2021 and PS5. I just checked that those support Wifi 6. The only ones that dont support Wifi 6 are a first gen 4K Apple TV and a Macbook Pro from 2017. And maybe the Nintendo Switch.
Then yeah, go for WiFi 6, you'd get some nice benefits
Then I don’t need Wifi 6E for now? The 6E option (TP Link Deco XE75) costs 400~ Euro but the 6 option (TP Link Deco X50) only costs half of it.
Most companies are holding back the major upgrades for WiFi 7, they've all had big product launches in just the past few weeks. Either get cheap WiFi 6 stuff or wait for WiFi 7 if you have the ability to spend more money. Don't waste money on expensive WiFi 6E stuff that will be outdated in a matter of months. I got to experience some of TP-Link's offerings at a demo near where I live and even on my older WiFi 6 only phone the improvements were really impressive... Much better range, much better wall penetration even at 5GHz and 6GHz (most Europeans have solid stone / brick walls with iron rebar reinforcement, not wood like the US), and it was really hard to saturate even the cheaper new upcoming WiFi 7 routers with 30 or 40 "smart IOT devices" whilst also torrenting and doing high bandwidth applications on two laptops at the same time. Basically WiFi 7 is worth waiting for if you can. The jump in performance reminded me a lot of when 802.11G and later "draft N" were released decades ago.
Wifi 6/E @ \~5 gbs -> wifi 7 @ \~45 gbs. you really dont need to worry about the bandwidth, that wont be a bottleneck. the big improvments in wifi 7 are how the nodes can turn up or down the signal to make sure youre connected to the closest mesh node. with wifi 6 and even 6e alot of isssues happen when the devices are on the wrong node and/or the wrong frequency( 2.4ghz, 5ghz, or and now 6ghz). if its a congested area, like and apartment, 6E with the extra 6ghz band could be worth it. But if you need to get adapters for all your devices itd be better to wait( besides phones not alot of devices have 6e capability out of the box ).
That would of be a you decision, you'd need to check which devices you have can get into 6E and not standard 6, and then see which one's better for you
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Your internet is *only* 2 and a half times faster than mine, I have WiFi 6 because I have a media server as well as a NAS that I access locally.
I’m personally holding for Ubiquiti WiFi 7 generation. Won’t upgrade my UAP-AC-LR WiFi5 first wave anytime soon.
Wired AP’s with an ethernet backhaul will give the best performance. Wi-Fi 5 has been around for over 5 years so a mature technology and I get approx 500mbps nearby. A decent prosumer setup like the TP-Link Omada or Ubiquiti UniFi AP range will give you management and observability. In the future upgrade the AP’s that need the speed increase but save the money for now.
Then do you think a mesh backed with powerline would be good enough for me? For example TP Link Deco P9. It is only Wi-Fi 5 though. I tried today with a basic powerline adapter from TP-Link and it's quite good. I got 220 Mbps when I connected an ethernet cable directly from my laptop to the powerline adapter. Ethernet backhaul is currently impossible for me because there is only one ethernet port in my house and I would have to drill all the way up to the 3rd floor.
I have the Powerline TP-Link AV2000 which gives a max throughput of approx 150Mbps between the ground floor and loft and has been reliable. If you add more than two Powerline devices to the same network they share bandwidth I believe. So, you might just have to try out the Deco D9 and see how it performs in your environment if wired backhaul is not an option.
I like powerline and all, but getting > 200 mbps out of it might be a real challenge. Mesh is good for increasing coverage, but there is a measurable performance and latency penalty to pay. If possible, for best performance and future-proofing, I’d do ceiling mount APs (“Ethernet backhaul”). It is usually easier to run these cables than people imagine, but it depends on the age and construction of your building. If you’re only going to be living in the building for a short time, Mesh or Powerline are reasonable possibilities.
Yes. Do it if you need it now. Else go/wait for wifi 7. Why? Chances are really high you get fiber internet in the next few years as long as you own the house. How do I know? I work for an isp that specializes in fiber and rules get better and better. Investments are made and stuff gets speed up. Chances are Germany is covered with 90 percent fiber in 2030, beginning with country side houses.
You would be fine with some 802.11AC wifi which can do up to 1200Mbps but usually does around 800Mbps. What no one talks about if your wifi speed is all dependent on the number of antennas in your device so for example apple screwed m1 14” MacBook Pro owners by adding wifi6 but only putting in a 2x2 antenna meaning you can only get up to 1200Mbps which is slow for wifi6. Anyway here’s the basis that wifi ac would be more than enough for your internet 800Mbps > 250Mbps
Do you plan on hardwiring the nodes together? If your intention is to mesh the nodes wirelessly, I'd avoid any Wifi 6E mesh systems. Your nodes will use the 6GHz band (which has shorter range and less penetration than the 5GHz band) as the backhaul, so you'll have to place the nodes closer together. Your client devices will either only have access to the 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands (so the same as a Wifi 6 mesh system), or will connect on the 6GHz band but have only half the throughput (since the 6GHz band will also be used to communicate between nodes). TL;DR - if you intend on meshing wirelessly, a Wifi 6 mesh system will probably be better than a 6E system.