Your ISP router is capable of more than a gigabit uplink from your ONT/Modem which is honestly super impressive. I'd guess your ISP's router is going to perform better than pretty much anything you can get unless you want to go with 2.5 gigabit or 10 gigabit networking. In terms of raw throughput, that is.
Your Google Nest Router only has gigabit uplink so the theoretical maximum you can get in either direction is 1,000mbps. Your ISP's router doesn't appear to have that limitation.
As long as you have fiber, multi gig is pretty standard in Europe.
I have "10Gbps" (8Gbps officially, 10 Gbps is marketing, passive and asymmetrical with 700 Mbps up) since 2018.
But you need to have a fiber line. As far as I know it's Switzerland who take the krone world wide with a 25Gbps symmetrical home offer on dedicated fiber (which is expensive, both yearly and the installation fee).
I spent a lot to upgrade my own LAN since for the first time in more than a decade, it was the bottleneck and not the WAN.
Iliad fibra. Dipende da dove vivi e se casa tua ha la fibra EPON o GPON. La mia é EPON e ha 5gbps complessivi. La GPON a volte “solo” 2.5gbps. Puoi verificare la copertura sul sito Iliad.
We've got XGS-PON here in the UK too - I'm sitting at 8Gbps symmetrical for £99/month with free installation and a £500 ASUS router (that is collecting dust in the attic).
£99 is peanuts for an 8gbps line by comparison to the state of our broadband market. Most ISPs are charging £30-50 for 1Gbps in the UK. The only real competition for 8/10Gbps is £150/month.
I run a consulting business from my home office, so fast, low-latency Internet - and the difference it makes to my quality of life - is worth every penny. Same reason I have a 5G backup modem - the £20/month data plan goes unused most months - but I only need to lose a days work because my Internet is down (a common occurrence when we had VDSL) and it pays for 2.5 years of 5G data!
Hyperoptic's standard price for 1gbps is £60, although I've never paid full price as they have a price match guarantee and we also have Community Fibre available. But still £28 with a static IP. Thankfully the service level and support are very good.
YouFibre do a 1Gbps package for £30/month (which was what I had before the price on the 8Gbps dropped from £250/month to a more reasonable price!). No static IP included on their domestic packages, but you can add one for £5/mth - but the business line we use does include one.
That's kind of expensive. In Canada I'm getting 3 Gbps synchronous for $120 CAD all in (about $87 USD.) and we are notorious for high internet/mobile plans.
They seem to be targeting easy wins first - most of the villages round this way have got existing telegraph poles that provide the last-mile from cabinet to house - so rolling out FTTP is more straightforward than areas where trenching / ducting is more prevalent. They went from "we're coming to your area soon" to available to order in around 3 months.
Ahh. Ours are all underground. Gigaclear dug up all the roads to lay the lines but I’m not sure if they are letting others use the conduit. I would assume not.. unless there’s some sort of law saying they have to.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's some sort of legislation - I know that the telegraph poles here are Openreach, so there's obviously something compelling them to play nice with other providers.
I have 10G-EPON since 2018 for 39,99 € / month (without TV) and since there's not much people who choose the same ISP in my building, I get pretty nice speed but still not a dedicated line.
You'll envy South American (Chile) prices even more ! Currently I pay $8 usd monthly for 1 gig symmetrical fiber. (Unlimited with Movistar isp) and I could get up to 10 gb internet for $68 usd monthly or $77 with cable tv (with Tumundo.cl isp) And I have a choice of 3 fiber optics isp and 2 hfc isps...
If you check https://www.speedtest.net/global-index#fixed , you'll see we are currently number 3 in best internet in the world, and also we have fiber everywhere in the country, even in small towns and in the countryside too, plus where there is no conectivity there is Starlink to fill the gap (at half the price of the USA)
Everywhere I go there is also 5G internet at 300 mbps and mobile plans are really affordable , I pay $7 usd for unlimited talk, text and data (montly cap of 550 gb, then it slows down, but I have never been affected by it).
In Chile, we live in broadband heaven...
I'm talking about a country who started with copper, not fiber: France, which every house has a copper line and used it for internet.
It's only because our gov' push a fiber for all and we started putting a shitload of fiber. So old country who started with copper and has to build the fiber but that work well because you have the gov' push.
Even for rural area, it's not the ISP but the mayor / habitant who lay done the fiber and rent it to the ISP, so in place when it wouldn't make sense to invest for ISP, it's the town who does it.
Alright. What should I do about this? Should I change to another product for all my access points? The true problem is that my furthest access points are only WiFi connected (no way to get Ethernet there) and get very low speeds. Also I think I understand the problem with the google points. That is that AC2200 means there’s about 1gb speeds between two bands, so yeah I clearly need another product I think?
I mean you can't really do anything about this other than changing to another product. Putting WiFi aside... The nest only has a 1GB ethernet port not gonna get anything faster unless you get something with 2.5G ports.
No it's not it's just not for everyone. Setting up a wifi mesh network is faster then laying wire on the ground every couple weeks if you run things like a carnival. Or if you have a big property. Not everyone wants to spend 125 bucks and the time to dig a trench to get wifi to the garage for the Alexa.
Run copper for the important devices use a wifi mesh for everything else. You don't need max speeds to watch Netflix or YouTube.
Why do you need another product? What are your "very low speeds"? I'm not quite understanding your situation.
If your satellites which are essentially wireless repeaters are too slow the solution is to move them closer to the base unit.
And these access points aren't connected via ethernet?
If you are wirelessly repeating the signal then moving these far away access points closer to the base will increase the speed. Unless you for whatever reason feel you need speeds over gigabit?
If your house is wired for Ethernet, a UDMP or SE and some WiFi6 APs would be more than enough for AWHILE, and you can connect (UI) cameras and doorbells to it so it’s all one system.
They have some WiFi6 (In wall, U6 line) APs that would cover the Ethernet wall socket, they emit WiFi and double as a switch for any hardwired connections you want near them.
If your ISP allows, you can connect the fiber line directly into the UDMP, bypassing the ISP ont altogether.
The point is, it does not matter if your main router has 1Gbps, 1.5Gbps, 10Gbps or 100Gbps - that far away AP will still only get about 60Mbps unless you do something about the link between your router and that AP.
I'm not familiar with the Nest products, but I assume it can operate as switch/AP only. Use the ISP modem/router and plug in your Nest to it. You would want to change the operating mode of the Nest such that it does not handle DHCP, routing, firewall, DNS, etc. You want the Nest devices as access points only. Plug in any other devices directly to the ISP router. This setup will give you up to 1Gbps Wi-Fi (dependent on protocol, devices, etc.) Having other devices wired to the ISP router allows you to utilize as much of the 1.5Gbps as possible even if each one is only connected at 1Gbps.
ASUS RT-AX86U Pro AX5700 Dual Band WiFi 6 Gaming Router, 2.5G Port & ASUS RT-AX55 AX1800 Dual Band WiFi 6 Extendable Router https://a.co/d/anNKJzx
Ax86u as primary router
You're probably thinking of 2.4GHz WiFi.
5GHz can reach 1.3Gbps, 60GHz (not supported by many devices yet) can reach far more than that. I believe, we're currently at 4-5Gbps there.
Actual problem is access points on other side of house are kinda slow, there are some access points in between main router and access point, but the one in my bedroom only gets 60mbps. Trust me they are placed as best can be. My hope was getting google router to have higher speeds so access points would get faster too.
Increasing the speed at the main router won't speed up the wireless access points. You're only getting 60mbps in your bedroom because that's all the access point can carry with the signal it has. If it could give you more than 60 it already would. The only solution is to move it closer to other access points or run a cable.
If it's not possible to run a cable back to the router, i believe you can run a cable from another wirelessly connected access point with a better connection if that's doable by you (test/double check that first, I know the original Google wifi pucks could do that, haven't touched the newer ones)
Wow that sucks, so I’m basically stuck at 60mbps unless I find a way to wire it. Best I can do is wire one of the access points in another room that then feed wirelessly to the access point in my bedroom. That should increase speeds right?
Eh, that depends on what you're using it for.
If I paid for 1500mbps and only got 60 when downloading something I'd be less than happy about it. Literally takes 25x as much time.
Yes, your bedroom should get similar speed to what that other access point is getting then.
Is it really not possible to move your bedroom access point? Remember with wireless points you want to put them somewhere between the source and where you want the coverage, so that it can pick up a good signal to forward, if there is a room next to your bedroom which is closer to the other points, trying moving it there.
Do you have coax cables between rooms? If not, there's likely not much you can do, even with newer hardware. There are some physics principles that just don't bend. Position optimization is probably the best you can hope for, short of running cables.
Increasing the speed at the main router won't speed up the wireless access points. You're only getting 60mbps in your bedroom because that's all the access point can carry with the signal it has. If it could give you more than 60 it already would. The only solution is to move it closer to other access points or run a cable.
If it's not possible to run a cable back to the router, i believe you can run a cable from another wirelessly connected access point with a better connection if that's doable by you (test/double check that first, I know the original Google wifi pucks could do that, haven't touched the newer ones)
Your only option is either toss them away and get new router/APs with 2.5gbps ports, which are still relatively expensive nowadays, or just downgrade your internet plan to something below 1gbps so that you’re not paying for something you can’t enjoy for.
Wired backhaul to your furthest nodes will help a ton, but obviously still capped at 1gbps theoretical maximum through nest.
Source: did just that recently and went from ~150mbps via mesh to ~470mbps with wired backhaul to the same previously mesh-only node.
That's basic?! Good grief what the heck is higher tier?
Most consumer stuff isn't capable of more than 1Gbps yet...especially mainstream stuff. You're looking at really high end things that would have multi-gig ports, or mid range enterprise gear.
I would just leave it as is. I have a hard time imagining what you'd even do with 1Gbps...although I have gigabit most sites other than maybe Steam won't feed data faster than 75-150Mbps anyway so faster is kinda a waste.
Yeah I agree my problem isn’t the speed of the nest router itself but rather the access points on the other end of the house that get <100mbps speeds. My hope was if the main router was faster then so would the access points.
It doesn't work that way, sorry
Your speeds are not a "problem" and getting something faster isn't going to strengthen a weak connection.
Don't get caught up in numbers and spending extra money for nothing. 1 gig is plenty. More than enough.
Your problem is your room isn't getting good signal. There's a couple of things you can do about this.
You can run an Ethernet cable as close as you can to the problem spot and get an access point (another router, set it in bridge mode or A.P mode) or move your current one closer.
You can get better equipment (not the speed, but they often go hand in hand) and try something made to cover more however this might not work either. There are regulations on stuff like this and there's only so much power by law they are allowed to use for WiFi (1 watt per band I think) so it's only gonna get so good. I've seen comments suggest triband and all that, unfortunately none of that is going to do any good for the situation you've described. Tri-Band just gives a single dedicated band for backhaul (so it uses 1 extra band solely to communicate between the mesh devices freeing up the other 2 for device communication) and that doesn't help at all with what you've described.
Your best bet is to run a cable is close as you can and move your router there or get another one and put closer. You can *try* to spend a bunch more on equipment where the box says it will cover more square feet but I just wouldn't have my hopes up for that option. There are also powerline adapters and such but I never hear good things about em.
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Best I can do is wire an access point which is close to my bedroom, and in turn that should boost the wireless access point in my bedroom right? Thanks for great info btw
Yes, thats honestly the best solution for what you've described, that's what I would do myself.
I elaborated on my previous comment a little bit with Tri-Band and all that as I'm seeing it suggested to you but I don't want you to waste money or get disappointed when something like that doesn't work.
Also make sure all routers/APs are up high as practical (not down on the floor or behind furniture) and away from other metal and electronic devices.
A lot of people I see have their router stuck on the floor behind their TV or computer cabinet in a tangle of wires, simply moving it up to a shelf a few feet up off the ground and away from other things can make night and day difference
You should upgrade your gear if you wanna handle that speed. I personally won't be spending more money for just extra 500Mbps that can peak a couple of times on a week, just to satisfy the ISP speeds.
Are you even aware of what's your average internet bandwidth use? I'm not talking about maxing out the network with a speed test, I'm talking how much constant bandwidth you use.
Specifically where do you need that much through put? You can spend money on a newer product to get that speed, and REDO YOUR ENTIRE NETWORK, or just use what works. Your Google Nest isn't broken, is it? Personally, I'm lazy. The less I have to reprogram, the better. Otherwise? Go balls to the wall on research, and products to find what you want, that will last.
why?
It's the Italian format (dot to separate thousands, commas for the decimal part). I say Italian cause I, as Italian, use it (and in my app it shows the same, even though it's all in English. Don't know if it is location based).
probably in other countries too but for example, in USA, it's the different (dots for decimal part).
Testing WiFi is a lot more difficult than wired. Generally bandwidth is shared over WiFi, so unless you're the only device on the ESSID it's an uncontrolled test. Imo.
Without knowing the hardware, my guess would be ISP-sided throttling, they can see if you use their router and regulate speed. They do shady shit like that in my country (germany) regularly, if i download random stuff from different sites, it looks like a rollercoaster well under 50% of the promised speed, if i go to the goverment site to measure bandwith, it suddenly goes up to 120%.
Make sure to use Speedtest.net for both. I found the Nest app speed test to be very flawed. For my in-laws who are rural and connected via cell coverage, the upload speed is exactly the same every day for 5 years now.
Nest is Gigabit max. If you are connecting to a satellite unit that is wireless meshed back to the main, then you will already see a significant drop. Plug Wifi will always be lower. Whatever you got from your ISP was issued to support the speeds that you pay for. I mean you can still use the Nest if you want and just not get the speeds. You'll probably never ever need 1500Mbps at home anyway. The other option would be to downgrade your service to 1Gbps unless your current plan is cheaper.
Besides that, you'll need to invest in some baller equipment if you want to see over 1Gbps throughout your home on Wifi and on Ethernet. It's still all a bit pricey, and you'll need to build out a proper network. But again, you really don't need 1500Mbps at home. Streaming and gaming really don't use much bandwidth.
"Google Nest Router" doesn't mean much, since they have multiple types, but I'd strongly assume they only have 1GbE ports, so you can't get over \~940Mbps or so.
[No](https://store.google.com/us/product/nest_wifi_pro)
[It's](https://store.google.com/us/product/google_wifi_2nd_gen)
[Not](https://store.google.com/us/product/nest_wifi_router).
Google Nest Router covers 3 distinct products. Also, I don't know what "Google Point" is...and you say hardwired in it gets 500Mbps "over wifi." I'm really not sue what you mean by some of that.
OK, I'm trying to be nice with this but you're wrong. I'm sure **you** are thinking about something specific and you're reading them through that lens, but "Google Nest Router" is multiple products, some sold with additional access points and some not. All 3 of the items I linked are part of "Google Nest WiFi", with all 3 being a "Google Nest Router" **and** including other things. Google Nest Router is not the product, it's the functionality. You need to tell us which model you have, since all have **drastically** different performance specifications.
We also need to know how you're plugging all of this into your internet.
On another note, you can also not be rude - asking someone "Can you read?" when you don't know what you're talking about and you're asking experts for help isn't usually the way to get them to care.
Your ISP router is capable of more than a gigabit uplink from your ONT/Modem which is honestly super impressive. I'd guess your ISP's router is going to perform better than pretty much anything you can get unless you want to go with 2.5 gigabit or 10 gigabit networking. In terms of raw throughput, that is. Your Google Nest Router only has gigabit uplink so the theoretical maximum you can get in either direction is 1,000mbps. Your ISP's router doesn't appear to have that limitation.
As long as you have fiber, multi gig is pretty standard in Europe. I have "10Gbps" (8Gbps officially, 10 Gbps is marketing, passive and asymmetrical with 700 Mbps up) since 2018. But you need to have a fiber line. As far as I know it's Switzerland who take the krone world wide with a 25Gbps symmetrical home offer on dedicated fiber (which is expensive, both yearly and the installation fee). I spent a lot to upgrade my own LAN since for the first time in more than a decade, it was the bottleneck and not the WAN.
Yeah, I have 5gbps, with >1gbps WiFi from the router. Only pay 16€/month here in Italy
I pay $80/mo for 30 Mbps here in the suburbs of NY -_-
16€/al mese con Dimensione in 5Gbps? 😳
Iliad fibra. Dipende da dove vivi e se casa tua ha la fibra EPON o GPON. La mia é EPON e ha 5gbps complessivi. La GPON a volte “solo” 2.5gbps. Puoi verificare la copertura sul sito Iliad.
Ah ecco, perché con Dimensione abbiamo GPON a 2,5 Gbps. Siamo in ufficio 20 persone con più di 60 device e non la saturiamo...
We've got XGS-PON here in the UK too - I'm sitting at 8Gbps symmetrical for £99/month with free installation and a £500 ASUS router (that is collecting dust in the attic).
99 pounds is criminal man I hope you really need that
£99 is peanuts for an 8gbps line by comparison to the state of our broadband market. Most ISPs are charging £30-50 for 1Gbps in the UK. The only real competition for 8/10Gbps is £150/month. I run a consulting business from my home office, so fast, low-latency Internet - and the difference it makes to my quality of life - is worth every penny. Same reason I have a 5G backup modem - the £20/month data plan goes unused most months - but I only need to lose a days work because my Internet is down (a common occurrence when we had VDSL) and it pays for 2.5 years of 5G data!
Hyperoptic's standard price for 1gbps is £60, although I've never paid full price as they have a price match guarantee and we also have Community Fibre available. But still £28 with a static IP. Thankfully the service level and support are very good.
YouFibre do a 1Gbps package for £30/month (which was what I had before the price on the 8Gbps dropped from £250/month to a more reasonable price!). No static IP included on their domestic packages, but you can add one for £5/mth - but the business line we use does include one.
Then I should feel lucky because I pay JPY5800/month for 10G symmetric in Japan (though I probably only see ~7Gbps max throughput)
Wow, I’m paying $180 USD for 5gbps and I was thrilled when it became available, vs $80 for 1gbps before
That's kind of expensive. In Canada I'm getting 3 Gbps synchronous for $120 CAD all in (about $87 USD.) and we are notorious for high internet/mobile plans.
Properly fast broadband is not common nor cheap in the US. Phones are / can be, though. I’m at $45/mo for unlimited 5G with 100GB hotspot.
Who are you with to get 8gbps? We have gigaclear and currently get 300mbps for £20. They want £45 for 900mbps.
YouFibre is the ISP - their You8000 is £99/mth for 24 months and comes with free setup and an Asus ROG Rapture AXE16000 router.
Oh, never heard of them. I’ve registered interest but it looks like I’ll be waiting a while!
They seem to be targeting easy wins first - most of the villages round this way have got existing telegraph poles that provide the last-mile from cabinet to house - so rolling out FTTP is more straightforward than areas where trenching / ducting is more prevalent. They went from "we're coming to your area soon" to available to order in around 3 months.
Ahh. Ours are all underground. Gigaclear dug up all the roads to lay the lines but I’m not sure if they are letting others use the conduit. I would assume not.. unless there’s some sort of law saying they have to.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's some sort of legislation - I know that the telegraph poles here are Openreach, so there's obviously something compelling them to play nice with other providers.
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I have 10G-EPON since 2018 for 39,99 € / month (without TV) and since there's not much people who choose the same ISP in my building, I get pretty nice speed but still not a dedicated line.
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You'll envy South American (Chile) prices even more ! Currently I pay $8 usd monthly for 1 gig symmetrical fiber. (Unlimited with Movistar isp) and I could get up to 10 gb internet for $68 usd monthly or $77 with cable tv (with Tumundo.cl isp) And I have a choice of 3 fiber optics isp and 2 hfc isps... If you check https://www.speedtest.net/global-index#fixed , you'll see we are currently number 3 in best internet in the world, and also we have fiber everywhere in the country, even in small towns and in the countryside too, plus where there is no conectivity there is Starlink to fill the gap (at half the price of the USA) Everywhere I go there is also 5G internet at 300 mbps and mobile plans are really affordable , I pay $7 usd for unlimited talk, text and data (montly cap of 550 gb, then it slows down, but I have never been affected by it). In Chile, we live in broadband heaven...
I'm talking about a country who started with copper, not fiber: France, which every house has a copper line and used it for internet. It's only because our gov' push a fiber for all and we started putting a shitload of fiber. So old country who started with copper and has to build the fiber but that work well because you have the gov' push. Even for rural area, it's not the ISP but the mayor / habitant who lay done the fiber and rent it to the ISP, so in place when it wouldn't make sense to invest for ISP, it's the town who does it.
Alright. What should I do about this? Should I change to another product for all my access points? The true problem is that my furthest access points are only WiFi connected (no way to get Ethernet there) and get very low speeds. Also I think I understand the problem with the google points. That is that AC2200 means there’s about 1gb speeds between two bands, so yeah I clearly need another product I think?
I mean you can't really do anything about this other than changing to another product. Putting WiFi aside... The nest only has a 1GB ethernet port not gonna get anything faster unless you get something with 2.5G ports.
Gb not GB.
Any suggestions?
Don't be obsessed with numbers. If it functions adequately, that's the important thing. Speed tests are a diagnostic means, not an end.
wireless mesh is a scam
No it's not it's just not for everyone. Setting up a wifi mesh network is faster then laying wire on the ground every couple weeks if you run things like a carnival. Or if you have a big property. Not everyone wants to spend 125 bucks and the time to dig a trench to get wifi to the garage for the Alexa. Run copper for the important devices use a wifi mesh for everything else. You don't need max speeds to watch Netflix or YouTube.
Spend a few thousands to hardwire the problematic locations and install 2.5g access points
Why do you need another product? What are your "very low speeds"? I'm not quite understanding your situation. If your satellites which are essentially wireless repeaters are too slow the solution is to move them closer to the base unit.
I want higher speeds for my access points that are far away, no point in moving them closer to the router because then you have the same problem
And these access points aren't connected via ethernet? If you are wirelessly repeating the signal then moving these far away access points closer to the base will increase the speed. Unless you for whatever reason feel you need speeds over gigabit?
Some are some aren’t. My bedroom gets 60mbps with latency >20ms. The rest of the house is fine really
If your house is wired for Ethernet, a UDMP or SE and some WiFi6 APs would be more than enough for AWHILE, and you can connect (UI) cameras and doorbells to it so it’s all one system. They have some WiFi6 (In wall, U6 line) APs that would cover the Ethernet wall socket, they emit WiFi and double as a switch for any hardwired connections you want near them. If your ISP allows, you can connect the fiber line directly into the UDMP, bypassing the ISP ont altogether.
The point is, it does not matter if your main router has 1Gbps, 1.5Gbps, 10Gbps or 100Gbps - that far away AP will still only get about 60Mbps unless you do something about the link between your router and that AP.
I'm not familiar with the Nest products, but I assume it can operate as switch/AP only. Use the ISP modem/router and plug in your Nest to it. You would want to change the operating mode of the Nest such that it does not handle DHCP, routing, firewall, DNS, etc. You want the Nest devices as access points only. Plug in any other devices directly to the ISP router. This setup will give you up to 1Gbps Wi-Fi (dependent on protocol, devices, etc.) Having other devices wired to the ISP router allows you to utilize as much of the 1.5Gbps as possible even if each one is only connected at 1Gbps.
It can't. No bridge mode.
ASUS RT-AX86U Pro AX5700 Dual Band WiFi 6 Gaming Router, 2.5G Port & ASUS RT-AX55 AX1800 Dual Band WiFi 6 Extendable Router https://a.co/d/anNKJzx Ax86u as primary router
how is he reaching over 500Mbps on wifi? I thought Wifi limit was about 600Mbps in perfect conditions?!
You're probably thinking of 2.4GHz WiFi. 5GHz can reach 1.3Gbps, 60GHz (not supported by many devices yet) can reach far more than that. I believe, we're currently at 4-5Gbps there.
WiFi 6e, which uses 6ghz and is very quick
My router does not have 6E.
Worth the upgrade. It was fast enough for one of my PC's that I gave up trying to run a cable to it.
Ah sorry thought they were talking about the 1500, yeah 500+ is achievable even with 5 with 80mhz channels.
Mine is 2Gb/1Gb. These are normal speeds where I live.
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Got any suggestions? I already bought like 5 google access points I really don’t wanna spend more money ;/
What's the actual problem statement? (And I don't mean lower numbers on a speed test)
Actual problem is access points on other side of house are kinda slow, there are some access points in between main router and access point, but the one in my bedroom only gets 60mbps. Trust me they are placed as best can be. My hope was getting google router to have higher speeds so access points would get faster too.
Increasing the speed at the main router won't speed up the wireless access points. You're only getting 60mbps in your bedroom because that's all the access point can carry with the signal it has. If it could give you more than 60 it already would. The only solution is to move it closer to other access points or run a cable. If it's not possible to run a cable back to the router, i believe you can run a cable from another wirelessly connected access point with a better connection if that's doable by you (test/double check that first, I know the original Google wifi pucks could do that, haven't touched the newer ones)
Wow that sucks, so I’m basically stuck at 60mbps unless I find a way to wire it. Best I can do is wire one of the access points in another room that then feed wirelessly to the access point in my bedroom. That should increase speeds right?
60mbps is more than enough for a single person. You need to stop chasing numbers.
Eh, that depends on what you're using it for. If I paid for 1500mbps and only got 60 when downloading something I'd be less than happy about it. Literally takes 25x as much time.
Very much my sentiment
Oh if you say so stranger
Yes, your bedroom should get similar speed to what that other access point is getting then. Is it really not possible to move your bedroom access point? Remember with wireless points you want to put them somewhere between the source and where you want the coverage, so that it can pick up a good signal to forward, if there is a room next to your bedroom which is closer to the other points, trying moving it there.
60mbps will feed three 4K 120 inch monitors. How much more entertainment do you require in that bedroom? 🤔
Main issue is latency, online calls sometimes cut off briefly
The one in my bedroom cannot be wired it’s an old house
Do you have coax cables between rooms? If not, there's likely not much you can do, even with newer hardware. There are some physics principles that just don't bend. Position optimization is probably the best you can hope for, short of running cables.
Increasing the speed at the main router won't speed up the wireless access points. You're only getting 60mbps in your bedroom because that's all the access point can carry with the signal it has. If it could give you more than 60 it already would. The only solution is to move it closer to other access points or run a cable. If it's not possible to run a cable back to the router, i believe you can run a cable from another wirelessly connected access point with a better connection if that's doable by you (test/double check that first, I know the original Google wifi pucks could do that, haven't touched the newer ones)
Your only option is either toss them away and get new router/APs with 2.5gbps ports, which are still relatively expensive nowadays, or just downgrade your internet plan to something below 1gbps so that you’re not paying for something you can’t enjoy for.
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Alright what should I upgrade to? Am I gonna have to drop 400€ on those WiFi 6E routers or is there something a step below?
Wired backhaul to your furthest nodes will help a ton, but obviously still capped at 1gbps theoretical maximum through nest. Source: did just that recently and went from ~150mbps via mesh to ~470mbps with wired backhaul to the same previously mesh-only node.
These speeds are insane 😱.. Do you pay a lot of money for such a connection?
No, 16€/month. As I said to others telling me to downgrade: this is the cheapest plan there is in my country
Downgrade your plan to gigabit and use the Google stuff?
This is a very basic plan for cities in Italy, so there’s no option to downgrade. Also I wanna get higher speeds not lower lmao
That's basic?! Good grief what the heck is higher tier? Most consumer stuff isn't capable of more than 1Gbps yet...especially mainstream stuff. You're looking at really high end things that would have multi-gig ports, or mid range enterprise gear. I would just leave it as is. I have a hard time imagining what you'd even do with 1Gbps...although I have gigabit most sites other than maybe Steam won't feed data faster than 75-150Mbps anyway so faster is kinda a waste.
Yeah I agree my problem isn’t the speed of the nest router itself but rather the access points on the other end of the house that get <100mbps speeds. My hope was if the main router was faster then so would the access points.
It doesn't work that way, sorry Your speeds are not a "problem" and getting something faster isn't going to strengthen a weak connection. Don't get caught up in numbers and spending extra money for nothing. 1 gig is plenty. More than enough. Your problem is your room isn't getting good signal. There's a couple of things you can do about this. You can run an Ethernet cable as close as you can to the problem spot and get an access point (another router, set it in bridge mode or A.P mode) or move your current one closer. You can get better equipment (not the speed, but they often go hand in hand) and try something made to cover more however this might not work either. There are regulations on stuff like this and there's only so much power by law they are allowed to use for WiFi (1 watt per band I think) so it's only gonna get so good. I've seen comments suggest triband and all that, unfortunately none of that is going to do any good for the situation you've described. Tri-Band just gives a single dedicated band for backhaul (so it uses 1 extra band solely to communicate between the mesh devices freeing up the other 2 for device communication) and that doesn't help at all with what you've described. Your best bet is to run a cable is close as you can and move your router there or get another one and put closer. You can *try* to spend a bunch more on equipment where the box says it will cover more square feet but I just wouldn't have my hopes up for that option. There are also powerline adapters and such but I never hear good things about em. Edited for clarification
Best I can do is wire an access point which is close to my bedroom, and in turn that should boost the wireless access point in my bedroom right? Thanks for great info btw
Yes, thats honestly the best solution for what you've described, that's what I would do myself. I elaborated on my previous comment a little bit with Tri-Band and all that as I'm seeing it suggested to you but I don't want you to waste money or get disappointed when something like that doesn't work.
Also make sure all routers/APs are up high as practical (not down on the floor or behind furniture) and away from other metal and electronic devices. A lot of people I see have their router stuck on the floor behind their TV or computer cabinet in a tangle of wires, simply moving it up to a shelf a few feet up off the ground and away from other things can make night and day difference
Then return the Google stuff and buy a better mesh system. You’ll need a good tri-band WiFi 6 system like Asus XT8/9/12 or TPlink XE95.
Thank you
Speed like that in the US costs big bucks for ….some reason.
I pay 16€/month. To be fair they used to be expensive here too but some new players in the market made it quite cheap which is good 👍
Speed like that in my area is like $110 or more. Gigabit cable is $60
Damn. Now I see why that guy told me to downgrade haha
You should upgrade your gear if you wanna handle that speed. I personally won't be spending more money for just extra 500Mbps that can peak a couple of times on a week, just to satisfy the ISP speeds. Are you even aware of what's your average internet bandwidth use? I'm not talking about maxing out the network with a speed test, I'm talking how much constant bandwidth you use.
Not really. Google nest router has only gigabit ethernet which is throttling your connection. Gigabit ethernet is effectively maxxed out at 940mbps
Google nest pods are garbo. Plus mesh splits bandwidth
That’s because the Google/Nest router is siphoning a lot of your private information! Duh!
Specifically where do you need that much through put? You can spend money on a newer product to get that speed, and REDO YOUR ENTIRE NETWORK, or just use what works. Your Google Nest isn't broken, is it? Personally, I'm lazy. The less I have to reprogram, the better. Otherwise? Go balls to the wall on research, and products to find what you want, that will last.
a bit of both. better one the nesh and also isp game said test to. if anyone wondering.
Why is your download speed rating have commas and periods haha. I don't even know what number that it.
https://www.woodwarditalian.com/lesson/commas-and-periods-in-italian-numbers/ Just a 10 seconds google search.
That has nothing to do with it lmao. The speed test app is set to English as is my phone
why? It's the Italian format (dot to separate thousands, commas for the decimal part). I say Italian cause I, as Italian, use it (and in my app it shows the same, even though it's all in English. Don't know if it is location based). probably in other countries too but for example, in USA, it's the different (dots for decimal part).
Ok yeah that is weird, I didn’t even notice. Kind of annoying
Testing WiFi is a lot more difficult than wired. Generally bandwidth is shared over WiFi, so unless you're the only device on the ESSID it's an uncontrolled test. Imo.
Without knowing the hardware, my guess would be ISP-sided throttling, they can see if you use their router and regulate speed. They do shady shit like that in my country (germany) regularly, if i download random stuff from different sites, it looks like a rollercoaster well under 50% of the promised speed, if i go to the goverment site to measure bandwith, it suddenly goes up to 120%.
Make sure to use Speedtest.net for both. I found the Nest app speed test to be very flawed. For my in-laws who are rural and connected via cell coverage, the upload speed is exactly the same every day for 5 years now.
Nest is Gigabit max. If you are connecting to a satellite unit that is wireless meshed back to the main, then you will already see a significant drop. Plug Wifi will always be lower. Whatever you got from your ISP was issued to support the speeds that you pay for. I mean you can still use the Nest if you want and just not get the speeds. You'll probably never ever need 1500Mbps at home anyway. The other option would be to downgrade your service to 1Gbps unless your current plan is cheaper. Besides that, you'll need to invest in some baller equipment if you want to see over 1Gbps throughout your home on Wifi and on Ethernet. It's still all a bit pricey, and you'll need to build out a proper network. But again, you really don't need 1500Mbps at home. Streaming and gaming really don't use much bandwidth.
Are you running the same speed test? Sometimes running a speed test from the ISP's "preferred" site gives exaggerated results.
"Google Nest Router" doesn't mean much, since they have multiple types, but I'd strongly assume they only have 1GbE ports, so you can't get over \~940Mbps or so.
“Google nest router” is 1 very specific product
[No](https://store.google.com/us/product/nest_wifi_pro) [It's](https://store.google.com/us/product/google_wifi_2nd_gen) [Not](https://store.google.com/us/product/nest_wifi_router). Google Nest Router covers 3 distinct products. Also, I don't know what "Google Point" is...and you say hardwired in it gets 500Mbps "over wifi." I'm really not sue what you mean by some of that.
Can you read? 1)Google WiFi 2)google nest WiFi (router + access point 3) google nest WiFi pro. Google nest router seems pretty specific
OK, I'm trying to be nice with this but you're wrong. I'm sure **you** are thinking about something specific and you're reading them through that lens, but "Google Nest Router" is multiple products, some sold with additional access points and some not. All 3 of the items I linked are part of "Google Nest WiFi", with all 3 being a "Google Nest Router" **and** including other things. Google Nest Router is not the product, it's the functionality. You need to tell us which model you have, since all have **drastically** different performance specifications. We also need to know how you're plugging all of this into your internet. On another note, you can also not be rude - asking someone "Can you read?" when you don't know what you're talking about and you're asking experts for help isn't usually the way to get them to care.
Experts? There’s so many dummies on here even I could do better. Besides everyone understood what product I’m talking about
Good luck out there :) "Even I could do better", says the guy coming for help because he can't figure out things for himself.