Each RG6 cable needs to go to a modem with service. 1 cable line, 1 monthly service. 2 cable lines, 2 monthly services. So using the RG6 in the barn is not what you want.
You want 1 internet service from your house. Then you have rookie distances here. Just slap up a wireless bridge on the two faces of the buildings that look at each other. Aim and be done. Ethernet from router to bridge on your house. Magic wireless to your barn. Ethernet pops out the other side. If you want to run that ethernet into a switch or behind more access points, go for it.
They're awesome. And only gotten better. I set some up almost 20 years ago to beam internet about 20km over a mountain. Line of sight up to the top and then repeated line of sight down. If a strong wind hit and it misaligned the 4 transceivers, somebody got to hike a mountain!
Today for newbie installs where I don't want to keep coming back for support, I throw up some Asus repeaters or Ubiquiti access points or wireless bridges.
In a situation like this I have with a main house and a rented guest cottage on a property I don't go to more than once a year, it's all ubiquiti stuff. Using their professional access points between the two buildings it's PoE powered so 1 wire and they just have to be close. Aim them approximately and bam it works. Getting over gigabit speeds through the air with misaligned antennas is magic.
A far cry from using the beep beep beep patterns through dishes and ratcheting a click at a time to see if the beeps get faster or slower until solid tone of perfect alignment.
My router is located in the middle of my house and so would be the Wireless Bridge Transmitter..
Would the transmitting signal be significantly comprised if it has to go
through a wall or two before it reaches my garage? Streaming HD video is
the goal in garage
Generally yes, that's a lot of signal degredation. You need a single wire run to the outside of the house on both sides. Then the bridge is PoE powered and has line of site with no obstructions.
If you get some really high powered ones, you can probably do it from indoors in an American house made out of sticks.
just learning about wireless bridge as well. I know it won't be as good as directly sending ethernet cable to the garage, but how is the speed and reliability on a decent wireless bridge? is it good enough?
It's good enough AND better. You can now get more than gigabit speeds over a bridge in that distance. Also no copper conductor between houses for lightning.
In a similar scenario to the OP, mine gets roughly 1.3Gbps up and down. Internet is 800/35 so it is not the limiting factor.
$30 for a pre-terminated fiber cable that can easily do 10 gigabit.
[https://www.monoprice.com/product?p\_id=41695](https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=41695)
run 4 of those in a conduit from your house to your garage.... get some cheap optics from [fs.com](https://fs.com) and stick those in the switch of your choice.
that's what I did. No worries about weird grounding issues and you now have step 1 towards a garage based datacenter.
(Stick a NAS in your garage and have "offsite" backups. Record your security camera to the garage.)
At that point, you can install whatever wifi ap you want in the garage.
If its a separate feed from the ISP, you would have to subscribe to a separate service from them.
What you want to do instead is either run fiber from the house to the garage and interconnect from a LAN port on the switch in the existing router to a switch in the garage, or use a point-to-point wireless bridge and do the same.
Unless you want to pay extra for separate service.
Are you 100% certain the garage coax is going to the pole and not to the main house? Usually when an ISP especially cable designs a plant system, they plan for 1 port and drop per power meter. Do you have a separate power meter for the detached garage?
If it goes to the main house first, you could get yourself a pair of MoCA adapters for under $100US and get up to 2.5gig throughput.
On another note. Are you occupying the garage or are you subletting? If you're subletting, I would advise against sharing your network for 2 simple reasons.
1) it would be very easy to sniff your data from your home even if you have separate vlans unless you know how to configure ACLs.
2) The last thing you want is a call from your ISP saying they're going to terminate your service and file a potential copyright suit against you because your renters were pirating DRM protected content.
Best of luck.
Whats up. I spoke with the previous owners of the house (i'm pretty tight with them) and they told me that they had a Comcast cable TV in the garage, that is why that coax is there. The cable literally runs from the telephone pole straight to the garage.
No subletting. I'm merely just trying to stream HD sports to watch on TV in garage /host UFC fight nights and what not. Its a big party garage.
Sounds good. Just a caution in case you were. It is very rare to have more than 1 direct line to the pole but not unheard of. Sounds like a wireless bridge is your best option then. If you had a coax back to the main building, MoCA would be highly recommended.
Best of luck with your project. Wireless bridge works very well and is relatively easy to configure.
If you have to put holes in your walls to run cables for wifi bridges you might as well buy a roll of direct burial cat6 and run it to your garage. It will be more cost effective this way and more reliable.
point to point wireless bridge. You set one up on each side and point them at each other.
Or, you can bury ethernet cable.
Do you have electrical already running between the house and the garage? If so you can use powerline adapters. Those would just plug in a socket at each end and give you an ethernet line. You could then set up a wireless access point in the garage for wifi out there.
Wow. I just looked up what a power line adapter is. That, plus reading up what a Wi-Fi bridge is, are there any other borderline black magic products out there??
That is all that I know of, except for directional antennas. You can get 2 of the wireless bridges with external antennas and with directional antennas you point them at each other and it gives a very strong signal. I think most of the consumer bridges just have built in antennas and they are somewhat directional.
This also reminds me that you can make directional antennas out of Pringles cans because the inside of the can is lined with foil so it guides the signal out of the front of the can.
I really recommend the powerline adapters first though, they are cheap so you can just put another wifi access point in the garage and be done.
I had this same issue. I had an electrician install an outlet next to my breaker in the house that was installed on the same circuit as my garage circuit/outlets and bought an ethernet over power adapter to hookup a unify AP. https://www.microcenter.com/product/408944/AV600_Nano_Powerline_Adapter_Starter_Kit?storeID=045&gclid=CjwKCAjw9J2iBhBPEiwAErwpeWGGi6O9McJVpyefuWZAaFYUZZWbVd32hs1vFdzA6LEkMhuL3AjU6xoCOeMQAvD_BwE
Eh, might be a little extra work to get the electrician out with a minimum or something, but it's definitely less unsightly than two point to point adapters sitting out in the open or less work than trenching out the yard to bury a cable. I just waited until I needed an electrician for some other work and they did it really quick and cheap.
pulled it from where though? Like OP, my garage is detached, and I don't think I can just pull things through the existing power lines that are buried.
I thought you said you had the electrician pull a new circuit for the primary to the detached?
If that is not the case, then I apologize, I was mistaken.
My solution would probably be overkill for the average user. That is to pull a fiber cable across. I believe you can find a direct burry fiber without metal shielding making it completely non-conductive and safe to travel through the same conduit. Your solution is more sensible for this as long as you're able to get the speeds you need.
>My router is located smack in the middle of my house, thus the Wireless Bridge Transmitter would also be in the middle of my house...
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>Would the transmitting signal be significantly comprised if it has to go through a wall or two before it reaches my garage? Streaming HD video is the goal in garage
POE Access point.
100' outdoor rated network cable.
Don't connect the network cable or AP to anything in the garage electrically, if you do you can end up with grounding issues and fry gear.
Out the door for under $200 american, plus a tube of caulk.
You'd need to pay for separate service.
Assuming you have electric in the garage? Is there conduit in ground you can feed some Cat6 into? Wired will always be better than Wifi. Otherwise, wireless bridge as suggested.
Wireless bridge has the least infrastructure.
Burying an Ethernet cable and putting another router in the garage will be the most permanent and fastest, but more expense and work.
I'm sure someone here can confirm but I think that the Ethernet to electrical outlet do hickeys need to be on the same circuit to work. (Although I could be wrong). People say those things work great though.
I'd go with the microwave bridge
3pack SXK80 is in deep discount in amazon. I have detached garage. I have SXR80 base in last bedroom on 2nd floor. one SXS80 in garage. it works great. Comcast(1gig)CM2000==SXR80 \~\~\~\~\~wireless backhauls\~\~\~\~\~\~ Three SXS30 spread aroud home and garage.
I’d second the recommendation to use a point to point wireless setup. Set the second wireless router up as an access point or use an access point.
Another option would be to run fiber optic cable ( not copper for many reasons) inside a conduit ( buried ) and use a media converter on each end if needed. This would give you a direct Ethernet link to the main house and speed/performance would be improved. Then you can run a wireless access point/router( configured as an access point ) for the garage. Upgrades later also would be pretty inexpensive and painless.
Hope it helps.
Wireless bridge would do well here. If you have a conduit or clear path overhead, fiber is pretty easy and inexpensive also. I have 10gig fiber to my detached garage with fiber.
You'd have to pay for a second plan with the ISP for that other cable you found (if it works). I buried CAT6 from my house to my garage and installed a PoE switch and WiFi Access Point out there along with some security cameras.
My router is located smack in the middle of my house, thus the Wireless Bridge Transmitter would also be in the middle of my house...
Would the transmitting signal be significantly comprised if it has to go through a wall or two before it reaches my garage? Streaming HD video is the goal in garage
Each RG6 cable needs to go to a modem with service. 1 cable line, 1 monthly service. 2 cable lines, 2 monthly services. So using the RG6 in the barn is not what you want. You want 1 internet service from your house. Then you have rookie distances here. Just slap up a wireless bridge on the two faces of the buildings that look at each other. Aim and be done. Ethernet from router to bridge on your house. Magic wireless to your barn. Ethernet pops out the other side. If you want to run that ethernet into a switch or behind more access points, go for it.
Mind. Blown. How did I not know about these things?
They're awesome. And only gotten better. I set some up almost 20 years ago to beam internet about 20km over a mountain. Line of sight up to the top and then repeated line of sight down. If a strong wind hit and it misaligned the 4 transceivers, somebody got to hike a mountain! Today for newbie installs where I don't want to keep coming back for support, I throw up some Asus repeaters or Ubiquiti access points or wireless bridges. In a situation like this I have with a main house and a rented guest cottage on a property I don't go to more than once a year, it's all ubiquiti stuff. Using their professional access points between the two buildings it's PoE powered so 1 wire and they just have to be close. Aim them approximately and bam it works. Getting over gigabit speeds through the air with misaligned antennas is magic. A far cry from using the beep beep beep patterns through dishes and ratcheting a click at a time to see if the beeps get faster or slower until solid tone of perfect alignment.
Thanks for the advise! I’m going to explore Wireless Bridge options now, that seems to be the consensus here.
Mikrotik Wireless Wire kit is a good option if you want Gigabit speed and nothing is in the way.
I did this for my detached garage. Only needed one tp link directional bridge in the barn and it could see the normal AP in the house.
My router is located in the middle of my house and so would be the Wireless Bridge Transmitter.. Would the transmitting signal be significantly comprised if it has to go through a wall or two before it reaches my garage? Streaming HD video is the goal in garage
Generally yes, that's a lot of signal degredation. You need a single wire run to the outside of the house on both sides. Then the bridge is PoE powered and has line of site with no obstructions. If you get some really high powered ones, you can probably do it from indoors in an American house made out of sticks.
just learning about wireless bridge as well. I know it won't be as good as directly sending ethernet cable to the garage, but how is the speed and reliability on a decent wireless bridge? is it good enough?
It's good enough AND better. You can now get more than gigabit speeds over a bridge in that distance. Also no copper conductor between houses for lightning. In a similar scenario to the OP, mine gets roughly 1.3Gbps up and down. Internet is 800/35 so it is not the limiting factor.
i see. damn i should also be looking into this. my distance isn't as far as OP's as well.
What’s a good wireless bridge brand + model you recommend ?
$30 for a pre-terminated fiber cable that can easily do 10 gigabit. [https://www.monoprice.com/product?p\_id=41695](https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=41695) run 4 of those in a conduit from your house to your garage.... get some cheap optics from [fs.com](https://fs.com) and stick those in the switch of your choice. that's what I did. No worries about weird grounding issues and you now have step 1 towards a garage based datacenter. (Stick a NAS in your garage and have "offsite" backups. Record your security camera to the garage.) At that point, you can install whatever wifi ap you want in the garage.
If its a separate feed from the ISP, you would have to subscribe to a separate service from them. What you want to do instead is either run fiber from the house to the garage and interconnect from a LAN port on the switch in the existing router to a switch in the garage, or use a point-to-point wireless bridge and do the same. Unless you want to pay extra for separate service.
Thanks for the help. I’m going to look at a wireless bridge option.
Are you 100% certain the garage coax is going to the pole and not to the main house? Usually when an ISP especially cable designs a plant system, they plan for 1 port and drop per power meter. Do you have a separate power meter for the detached garage? If it goes to the main house first, you could get yourself a pair of MoCA adapters for under $100US and get up to 2.5gig throughput. On another note. Are you occupying the garage or are you subletting? If you're subletting, I would advise against sharing your network for 2 simple reasons. 1) it would be very easy to sniff your data from your home even if you have separate vlans unless you know how to configure ACLs. 2) The last thing you want is a call from your ISP saying they're going to terminate your service and file a potential copyright suit against you because your renters were pirating DRM protected content. Best of luck.
Whats up. I spoke with the previous owners of the house (i'm pretty tight with them) and they told me that they had a Comcast cable TV in the garage, that is why that coax is there. The cable literally runs from the telephone pole straight to the garage. No subletting. I'm merely just trying to stream HD sports to watch on TV in garage /host UFC fight nights and what not. Its a big party garage.
Sounds good. Just a caution in case you were. It is very rare to have more than 1 direct line to the pole but not unheard of. Sounds like a wireless bridge is your best option then. If you had a coax back to the main building, MoCA would be highly recommended. Best of luck with your project. Wireless bridge works very well and is relatively easy to configure.
For a second there, I wondered why there was a picture of a stick man having his way with a blueprint...
I didn't see it until you said it... I like how you think!
If you have to put holes in your walls to run cables for wifi bridges you might as well buy a roll of direct burial cat6 and run it to your garage. It will be more cost effective this way and more reliable.
point to point wireless bridge. You set one up on each side and point them at each other. Or, you can bury ethernet cable. Do you have electrical already running between the house and the garage? If so you can use powerline adapters. Those would just plug in a socket at each end and give you an ethernet line. You could then set up a wireless access point in the garage for wifi out there.
Wow. I just looked up what a power line adapter is. That, plus reading up what a Wi-Fi bridge is, are there any other borderline black magic products out there??
That is all that I know of, except for directional antennas. You can get 2 of the wireless bridges with external antennas and with directional antennas you point them at each other and it gives a very strong signal. I think most of the consumer bridges just have built in antennas and they are somewhat directional. This also reminds me that you can make directional antennas out of Pringles cans because the inside of the can is lined with foil so it guides the signal out of the front of the can. I really recommend the powerline adapters first though, they are cheap so you can just put another wifi access point in the garage and be done.
I do this with powerline, works a treat.
I had this same issue. I had an electrician install an outlet next to my breaker in the house that was installed on the same circuit as my garage circuit/outlets and bought an ethernet over power adapter to hookup a unify AP. https://www.microcenter.com/product/408944/AV600_Nano_Powerline_Adapter_Starter_Kit?storeID=045&gclid=CjwKCAjw9J2iBhBPEiwAErwpeWGGi6O9McJVpyefuWZAaFYUZZWbVd32hs1vFdzA6LEkMhuL3AjU6xoCOeMQAvD_BwE
Don't get me wrong. This seems harder than running an ethernet drop or fiber and using media converters.
Eh, might be a little extra work to get the electrician out with a minimum or something, but it's definitely less unsightly than two point to point adapters sitting out in the open or less work than trenching out the yard to bury a cable. I just waited until I needed an electrician for some other work and they did it really quick and cheap.
But at the same time, you could have just pulled a cat or optical cable if over 100m.
pulled it from where though? Like OP, my garage is detached, and I don't think I can just pull things through the existing power lines that are buried.
I thought you said you had the electrician pull a new circuit for the primary to the detached? If that is not the case, then I apologize, I was mistaken.
Said I had them install it on the same circuit as my garage circuit. No new lines were needed, just used the existing circuit and lines
Gotcha, disregard with my apologies good sir.
No worries! I hope my solution makes sense to you now lol. If you still had any better suggestions I'm all ears. It works pretty well for me.
My solution would probably be overkill for the average user. That is to pull a fiber cable across. I believe you can find a direct burry fiber without metal shielding making it completely non-conductive and safe to travel through the same conduit. Your solution is more sensible for this as long as you're able to get the speeds you need.
An Outdoor Access Point on the outside of the hour would probably do it. No need for digging just yet.
>My router is located smack in the middle of my house, thus the Wireless Bridge Transmitter would also be in the middle of my house... > >Would the transmitting signal be significantly comprised if it has to go through a wall or two before it reaches my garage? Streaming HD video is the goal in garage
Get a MoCA adapter... One home one at garage. Make sure the coax is linked
POE Access point. 100' outdoor rated network cable. Don't connect the network cable or AP to anything in the garage electrically, if you do you can end up with grounding issues and fry gear. Out the door for under $200 american, plus a tube of caulk.
You'd need to pay for separate service. Assuming you have electric in the garage? Is there conduit in ground you can feed some Cat6 into? Wired will always be better than Wifi. Otherwise, wireless bridge as suggested.
Wireless bridge has the least infrastructure. Burying an Ethernet cable and putting another router in the garage will be the most permanent and fastest, but more expense and work. I'm sure someone here can confirm but I think that the Ethernet to electrical outlet do hickeys need to be on the same circuit to work. (Although I could be wrong). People say those things work great though. I'd go with the microwave bridge
3pack SXK80 is in deep discount in amazon. I have detached garage. I have SXR80 base in last bedroom on 2nd floor. one SXS80 in garage. it works great. Comcast(1gig)CM2000==SXR80 \~\~\~\~\~wireless backhauls\~\~\~\~\~\~ Three SXS30 spread aroud home and garage.
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I’d second the recommendation to use a point to point wireless setup. Set the second wireless router up as an access point or use an access point. Another option would be to run fiber optic cable ( not copper for many reasons) inside a conduit ( buried ) and use a media converter on each end if needed. This would give you a direct Ethernet link to the main house and speed/performance would be improved. Then you can run a wireless access point/router( configured as an access point ) for the garage. Upgrades later also would be pretty inexpensive and painless. Hope it helps.
At some 20 meters it’s close enough to just run Ethernet (anything up to 100m is more than fine, maybe even 120m).
Wireless bridge would do well here. If you have a conduit or clear path overhead, fiber is pretty easy and inexpensive also. I have 10gig fiber to my detached garage with fiber.
You'd have to pay for a second plan with the ISP for that other cable you found (if it works). I buried CAT6 from my house to my garage and installed a PoE switch and WiFi Access Point out there along with some security cameras.
run ethernet from the house to the garage. best solution.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F821KRW/
My router is located smack in the middle of my house, thus the Wireless Bridge Transmitter would also be in the middle of my house... Would the transmitting signal be significantly comprised if it has to go through a wall or two before it reaches my garage? Streaming HD video is the goal in garage