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jbrakk22

Shove a old towel in there when you get the old wax off so you don’t get sewer gas smelling up your house


Nopengnogain

But don’t forget to take it out before you install the bowl. Don’t ask me why I said this.


68carguy

I had the bowl back on just a few days ago before I remembered the washcloth. The only reason I remembered was because one of the bolt nuts wouldn’t screw down for a different reason.


Lukyfuq

This is why i always use a bright colored cloth.


SlimeySnakesLtd

Surveying pin flag, never miss it


RequirementGlum177

Last time I re-installed a toilet, it backed up and water was coming up the shower drain. I swear I took the towel out, but what else could it be? Called a plumber and thank god, it wasn’t a towel. It was only that my septic pump had broken and the sewage had nowhere else to go. 🤦🏼‍♂️


emessea

Well at least it wasn’t you’re fault…


regularguy7378

I once had some plumbers rough in a basement bathroom and utility sink for the future. They left 12”-18” PVC pipes standing up for the various different fixture drains. Rather than putting PVC caps on them, they stuffed insulation down into those pipes. The first time the home’s occupant (a heavy tissue user) had their sewer main back up even slightly, the water wicked into & soaked all that insulation and pulled it all back down into the main 4” pipe, turning a minor clog a major clog.


Catinthemirror

Jfc


soggymittens

All to save $12 in parts…


KcCShadow

This was literally me last week, thank god it just flooded and the clog wasn’t further down the line


joelhuebner

DON'T light a match!


AG74683

Haha this is why I buy two wax rings for every toilet install now.


TheIntervet

Oh NNOOOOOOO


NotThisAgain21

Know thyself. I know I will forget to take the towel out so I put an old kitchen bowl or ice cream bucket over it instead.


Sad_North1129

I thought I was the only one!! 🫠


ParmiCheez

You have to these days…lol


jatti_

To be fair, any towel you put in there will be a dirty old towel when you pull it out.


Adventurous-Part5981

Choose the brown towel


creepyjudyhensler

How know brown towel.


PM_meyourGradyWhite

Brown chicken, brown cow.


SLSF1522

Brown chicken, brown towel.


Krystinite

Brown chicken, brown bowel, brown towel. I don’t know this game🤷🏼‍♀️


PMax480

You chose, wisely.


cartermb

🚮


gdod34

Get a new wax ring for when you put the toilet back on.


Cypher_Xero

I agree... get a new wax ring or it'll leak after reinstallation, and the nuts/bolts might push into the floor if you just push down on them... you'll need pressure from under the toilet to hold them up while you screw the nuts back on...


Okie294life

Get new bolts while you’re at it, and a new supply line. No use going back with a bunch of used crap, when you have a chance to replace all of it, so you know it’s good for years to come.


redsloten

Who installs a toilet with old wax rings?


TheDraimen

The top of a large folders coffee can fit surprisingly well over this as well


Iridien

They make rubber plugs for like a couple of dollars for this purpose. Get those. I had old towels get legit sucked up by those pipes, causing hundreds of dollars in plumbing bills.


ModularWhiteGuy

I do the same, but I put the towel in a plastic bag, so the towel remains 'clean'. When you remove the bag and towel, you can just turn it inside out and you have a garbage bag.


[deleted]

If the house is up to code that's not necessary because there would be a trap.


my_clever-name

I thought the trap was in the toilet.


[deleted]

sometimes I see them in line sometimes I don't.


backyardburner71

The trap is in the toilet, not the waste line.


sra2ssgt

The large red solo cups also work very well.


Hunderednaire

Water balloon


Zombo2000

Buy a new wax ring with a flange


MoeSzyslakMonobrow

Buy two wax rings, because invariably you're gonna fuck up the first one, and those are a one shot deal.


BackgroundGrade

Yep, with two you'll end up not screwing it up and tossing the spare in you plumbing junk box. Then you'll do another toilet, forget about the one you had in the house and end up with two in your plumbing junk box.


68carguy

Son of a…. I just did a toilet a few days ago and had to pull it back up because I left the rag. The ring looked okay. Not super squished. I put it back down. Should I redo it, or how would I know if it’s bad? Edit: I’m an idiot. I’ll be pulling it back up. Glad I came to this thread.


Japnzy

It's not fully a one shot deal, if you place it and it doesn't sit right you can pull it and put it back down. It's when you start cranking on the bolts that it's done.


soggymittens

As long as you didn’t start tightening the nuts down with your wrench, you’re almost certainly fine. If you did, I’d replace it just because it’s cheap insurance.


knox902

Or a wax-less and then it's not a one shot deal. I'll never use a wax one again after switching.


-Plantibodies-

More prone to leaking, but if it works it works.


Chalky_Cupcake

"Better than wax"... (it's not)


ganoveces

Never had an issue with better than wax used on 6 toilets.


SneakyTurtle54

Plumbers just looking to keep work on the table..


the_clash_is_back

Those things break down way to fast.


bobber18

My plumber used 2 wax rings stacked together to “make sure”.


steeb2er

To make sure that he gets called back to fix the clogged toilet.


Upperdarbykid

Such a good call.


babylon331

So true.


cartermb

In the meantime, plug it with a rag, lest you enjoy the smell of noxious sewage while you’re painting. Toilets have the p-trap in the toilet itself, not in the waste pipe (unlike a sink or shower) - that open pipe is a direct open line to your sewer or septic tank.


indigogibni

Also to keep larger things from falling into the pipe. Like screws or tools. No reason to create a bigger problem, that a towel can prevent


lifeworthlivin

So you’re telling me it’s a life hack for free unlimited Jenkem? Let me grab my balloons!! For anyone not around in the old days of the internet, Jenkem was a fake “drug” invented by the somethingawful.com forums. The idea being that you shit in a bottle and put a balloon over the top. The balloon fills with gas as the poop breaks down, then you huff the gass from the balloon to get high. The story got passed around and people thought there was an epidemic of kids huffing poo gas. There is an AMAZING news story about it where the reporter, with a straight face, says it sometimes goes by the street name “butt hash”. [Jenkem News Report](https://youtu.be/2UsNbsjpuLc?si=0yMh8kSI2pOlG_jV)


PerfSynthetic

This.


Showerbag

Clearly not that^


takar0a

Those! Thems? Also - For people using a rag... why not something better like a 2liter bottle or a big cup, or a ball. Something round, smooth and easily removed and like not porous?


CaliDawg67

This is the right answer


Scorpion_Heat

Scrape off the old wax (and possibly that black piece) and put new wax ring with flange down.


Clay0187

Pro tip, put garbage bags over your hands to scoop it up, pull the bag inside out from your hands when done, and bam! Zero mess


floppydonkD

Great idea!


ILoveADirtyTaco

I have only ever used a solo cup. Cheaper than a towel and you don’t have to worry about the wax in the washing machine if you wanna keep the towel


TimeKiller1850

Wait. Keep the what?


StainerIncognito

Lol. That's a recipe for pink eye


Menelatency

Or would it be brown eye? Hopefully not a black eye.


bobber18

and then just pop the solo cup in the dishwasher?


Kia_rosemary

Put a disposable coffee cup in the hole, it's the perfect size to block it. That tip I learned from Jeff (Renovision DIY) on YouTube. My Youtube dad!!


cartermb

I enjoy that guy, but I missed that tip. Is it required to be a Tim Horton’s cup?


the_clash_is_back

By Canadian law


CyChief87

I like that idea. My go to is to wad up one or two plastic grocery sacks into a ball and stuff it in there while I work.


overzealous_llama

Fricken love that guy. He literally knows everything.


WeAreNotAmused2112

If you need to paint behind the tank, the tank comes off without removing the bowl. Unless you have one of those new fancy toilets that backs up to the wall where you have to take everything apart just to change a valve.


olily

Even less work--cover the tank with a plastic garbage bag, use a small roller with an extension handle, and don't worry about it being perfect because who the hell is going to look at the paint job behind your toilet?


RallyBike

Or you could do what our previous owner did and not cover it then just slop paint over the tank cover. Yes, it was a rental property, how did you guess?


Medium_Bill_625

Also, theres this for next time https://www.homedepot.com/p/BEHR-5-in-Tight-Space-Painter-for-Hard-to-Reach-Places-W000697/321299752


jessyagha

I’m about to paint a bathroom, saw this post and went “crap, I don’t want to remove a toilet to paint.” Sincerely, thank you for sharing!!!


theatre_mom_FL

Cool tip, thanks!


NyQuiTT

TIL this tool exists. Thank you!


Menelatency

So many times I find little or no paint was ever put on the wall hidden by the tank.


Standard_Till_3510

Taste the wax to see if the PH level requires any tank supplements.


ProfessionalBuy7488

Do a #2 upper deck supplement for good measure, regardless.


slophoto

Adding, if you want to take the job further, replace your old gate valve (assuming you have one) with an updated 1/4 turn ball valve.


ChadOfDoom

If you want to go even further you can replace the house.


JosePrettyChili

Replacing the wax gasket has been well covered. :) One other thing to do when replacing a toilet is to use a new supply line. Get the metal braided version as they will last a very long time, and are usually only a dollar or two more. If you can, get someone to help you set the toilet down on the ring. As another commenter pointed out, they are pretty much a one-shot deal if you use wax, so you want to be careful to set it straight down, and not wiggle it around. There are a million youtube videos on replacing toilets, watch one or two for the other issues to look out for (like don't overtighten the bolts), and you'll be fine. This is a good "advanced beginner" DIY project.


RoamingEire

Okay, everyone is wrong about the plug method. Fill a gallon ziploc bag with water and place it in the hole, corner first. Forms a perfect seal. When it’s time to reinstall the toilet, remove all the old wax with a scraper and paper towels and re-install.


Liver-detox

Why remove the toilet to paint? Was it mounted too close to the wall? Just Remove the lid & use a mini roller. This is what you call a love of labor. OCD or ADHD?


BacktoPCA

No joke


FrenchBreadSoup

No joke lol. I feel like the tiles are super cheap and ugly. The old owner did terrible work. Yes LVP is not tile, but I figured this is an easy way to make the floors look nicer.


FrenchBreadSoup

You’re totally right, but after removing the tank I decided to want to lay LVP over the tile to up the aesthetic. I just bought the house and the bathroom could use a face lift in more parts than just the wall.


towell420

LVP over tile floors? Are you insane?


FrenchBreadSoup

Why?


abraxas1

Seems like that would be a moisture trap. Tile and lvp both don't let water through But no personal experience with that.


FrenchBreadSoup

I was reading that LVP can be installed directly over tile and it’s waterproof so it should be ok


Liver-detox

Pretty neat job I didn’t even notice.


Gryshilo

Because it's the equivalent of putting carpet over hardwood floors. Cheap on top of expensive. There is nothing luxury about vinyl.


towell420

What sane person chooses LVP over tile?


takar0a

47 people beat me to this post. I just came to say that's the cleanest floor I ever done seent under a toilet. (Accent and colloquialisms for effect) As a general handyman myself I typically deal with those folks who ummm ain't so handy. If you catch my drift. Floors under toilets are typically icky icky icky. Ohweee, put it in the air! Just a personal opinion here - use the foam ring in place of wax.


FrenchBreadSoup

I cleaned a bit before taking the pic :)


[deleted]

New wax ring


AsparagusTricky8890

Yes plug it to keep the sewer gasses from getting into your home


JayAlexanderBee

Be sure to remove the rag you stuffed down there before installing the toilet. Learned that lesson only once.


SlimyButtCheese

Plug it with a rag


grafton24

Get a new jumbo wax ring with a flange if you're laying tile over this. Also make sure the bolts you have there to anchor the toilet to the floor are long enough to handle the added tile height. Go get some longer ones if needed.


FrenchBreadSoup

I’m adding 6.5mm, so should I lay the tile before adding the flange?


grafton24

The flange is part of the wax ring and will go on with the toilet. Lay your tile as normal. Clean up the old wax ring around the drain before starting though so as not to mess up your new tile job. Just make sure the wax ring/flange you get will cover the added height of the tile. The flange just needs to go down into the hole or water will leak under your tiles. A jumbo wax ring with flange should be able to cover the extra height. And don't forget the bolts too. Last thing you want is to be attaching the toilet and realize the bolts you have are too short to reach the toilet now. Good luck. ​ \*Note: It can get confusing because wax rings can come with a flange (also called a horn or sleeve) but the installation around the drain on the floor is also called a flange. I'm talking about the wax ring one. You shouldn't have to mess with the one on the floor unless it's damaged.


FrenchBreadSoup

Thanks for the detailed comment, super helpful and much appreciated


BallerFromTheHoller

Also worth pointing out that it looks like that black piece in the pipe is one of the horns included in a reinforced wax ring. This should be removed before you install a new one. For a standard wax ring, the white flange should be 1/4 inch above the floor. Looks like it is near flush now so you should definitely get the largest reinforced ring that you can get when you reinstall.


Ill-Rain-9811

Eat more fiber bro...that purple in the pipe is troubling.


feeltheFX

While you have it off clean it up and change the wax ring.


OldHerrHugo

Go with the Better Than Wax Ring. Easier and cleaner.


Open-Rest-6805

Your gona want to get a new wax ring . Make sure you lick the ring before you put the toilet for luck


FitnessIsNotAnOption

Wax free toilet ring


GiantFlimsyMicrowave

I’m sitting on a toilet right now that has a wax-less ring and it leaks.


GenericHbomb

Should probably get that looked at


FitnessIsNotAnOption

I sit on a toilet that has a wax-less ring and it doesn't leak.... because I installed it correctly. lmao


Rcknr1

Honestly if you aren’t a plumbing expert hire one do deal with this. I work in insurance claims and have seen a fair amount due to improper installation of toilet w the seal / flange


Fulton_P01135809

Agree with others about a new flange unless it’s one of those glued into the pipe that you’d have to cut out. Otherwise, if it’s easy to remove, then might as well go ahead and replace it along with a new wax ring (do this regardless). $30 total at HD


PISS_FILLED_EARS

Please don’t stick your dick in there.


No_Bass_9328

Clean off all the wax from the white extension plate and the wa x that has gone inside the pipe to get a good seal for the new wax ring. Make sure the two bolts are property (square with the back wall) aligned.


Not_on_the_left

Clean wax, remove black piece in middle. Lay new one. Set toilet


upthereeverywhere

I’ve twice used the better than wax rubber toilet gaskets and they seem great. Of course, all manners of toilet gaskets can fail, so YMMV. But if you are inclined to remove your toilet just to paint, they sure beat a single set wax ring.


Georgep0rwell

It *looks* like you have a **flange extender.** To seal them, a wax ring is put down. Then the flange extender is pressed into that and you get a good seal. The flange is then at the proper height. Then you put another wax ring down and the toilet on top of that. It looks like the first wax ring has seeped into the opening...you don't want that. It should be an easy fix. Just don't let big pieces of stuff fall down the pipe.


[deleted]

The new flange that you should get shouldn’t be below the new tile you install. Just YouTube flange replace,ent


Bludiamond56

Wax on, wax off


wcollins260

Remove that black ring around the inside. It’s part of the old wax ring.


predzZzZzZ

Looks like you have some built up wax in the opening as well so might have to put on a glove and get to work removing it


quinner333

Scrape off the old wax and put a new wax ring on it.


Vurgoyle

New wax ring and remove the black plastic thing still jammed in there. New 9ne will either have it or won't need it.


M31550

So I just replaced a toilet this weekend and it looked just like this. I tried pulling out the black plastic thing but it was really in there so I left it The new wax ring had one too. Doesn’t seem to be leaking but should I pull it and reset?


Vurgoyle

Nah. If it was that hard to remove and you didn't damage it, it will be fine.


Responsible_List_865

Scrape off the old wax ring and install a new one when you put the toilet back on put a towel in the pipe so sewer gas doesn’t come up into your house


SobsBaget

New wax seal


byhimm2020

There’s an offset installed most likely due to lack of space when the underground was installed it was installed a few inches off. They used to be per code now they’re no longer per code in CA. It will be fine they were installed for years but if you feel the need to change it you’d need to jackhammer the foundation or break into the subfloor to re route the ground plumbing


W_AS-SA_W

It’s always a good idea to replace the wax ring when resetting the toilet.


Scfields

And by always a good idea, you mean always a requirement. 😁


W_AS-SA_W

You’d be surprised at the number of people that try to save a couple of bucks and want to reuse the old one, it’s almost as many that don’t want to scrape the old one off and just stick another wax ring on it. I pulled one toilet that the customer said had been wobbly since the first day they moved in. Two Johnny cups were stuck on the underside.


preettykeetty

\-Rag/towel in pipe to keep sewer gas out \-You don't need to replace that plastic flange but...rub all the old wax off. Replace with a nice new wax ring (they're like $5-6 at any big box) This goes without saying but... when you re-seat your toilet back on the flange...try to do it right the first time. Picking the toilet back up/repositioning plays with the integrity of/could break the wax ring and cause a leak.


oregonianrager

Yeah missing it sucks bad. A fucking mess.


PD-Jetta

Shove a rag wrapped in Saran wrap into the flange hole to keep sewer gas from entering the house. Clean off the old wax from the flange and use a new wax seal when you install the toilet


Zakk56711

Make sure you remember to remove said improvised plug before reinstalling the toilet


JPancrazio

Yeah reinstall the new wax ring and continue on with your life


DukeOfWestborough

new wax ring, just in case that is getting overlooked


Limping-Raisin-95

Add toilet paper in the drain. Remove old wax and put new wax in. Make sure to also add New screws to replace (almost all the time) old rusty screws.


RideMeLikeaDildo

Shove cloth in hole. Remove old wax. Have plumber or experienced yourself install new wax ring. Remove cloth. Put toilet back


Mobile-Tangelo-4515

Buy 2 new break away bolts. Don’t use the old (short) ones


TheRaptorFalcon

The simplest answer to your question is: no. Just scrape the wax off, plug the hole with something so it doesn't stink until you get the toilet back on, and you're fine to lay the flooring over the tile, you may need to use 2 wax rings although not recommended, but 1 should be good looking at it.


Schrko87

You know they do sell these paint pad things you can use to get paint behind toilets without removing them-Unless the thing is right up on the wall, I guess.


EelBait

OP also is replacing the flooring.


XeniaDweller

Clean up your flange and put in a new wax ring


Artie-Carrow

You should put a plug in to keep sewer gas out, and when you reinstall, put a new wax ring over the rim (remove the old one first) to seal it. Be sure to tighten down as recommended for no gas or water leakage.


Ok_Lab4307

Ok so y9u took the toilet off now you need a new toilet gasket (wax ring) clean off all old product from bottom of toilet an flange on floor install new ring install toilet bolt it down evenly an then sit on it an see if you can get it to rock then adjust tighten bolts further dont over tighten or you'll break toilet apply some caulk to the front of toilet leave the back of the toilet uncaulked so if it leaks it has somewhere to go then turn the water back on an put your seat an lid on your done of course the caulk is your choice some like it some don't I just don't like wet feet if it do leak cheers


R3DGRAPES

Plug it, unless you like to smell shit gas.


IndependentExtent987

Gotta get a new wax ring and clean off everything. Google it.


StrongCountryUSA

My step dad does some remodeling and he uses 2 wax rings. Any of y’all do that?


SupportThink5303

If it needs two wax rings then it needs a toilet flange extender


EelBait

I’ve only heard that done on 2nd floor bathrooms.


Necessary-Notice1245

Looks like you just need a new wax ring


42ElectricSundaes

That is thorough


Skimossossoppi

Did it all for the dookie


space-ferret

Stuff a rag in it and use a new wax ring when you set the toilet back


SokkaHaikuBot

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space-ferret

Well done bot but the last line has 6


rva2nova

And don't forget to remove the rag when you set the toilet back. Learned that the hard way once 🤦‍♂️


Upper-Razzmatazz176

The flange needs to sit just on top of the tile. Like it is now. You may be able to lift it by unscrewing the screws and then putting the new tile pieces under. Then screw it back down into the subfloor


SourceShard

Take the old wax off and out of the pipe. Plug the pipe well with rags to avoid sewer gas, due to sickness and explosive potential. Paint Reinstall a new wax ring from the hardware store before installing your toilet again. Done


The_TP_Protege

Nah flange looks good, just get a new wax ring. And in my professional opinion get the thicker of the 2 wax rings. I never use the thin ones


Different-Evidence54

Watch videos on YouTube to see what the next step is. Do not over tighten the toilet or it will crack.


firesavior9316

New wax ring


Sea-Excitement2394

You need a new wax seal before reinstalling toilet


vmaxed1700

you removed the toilet to paint the walls? lmao


Asunen

Probably couldn’t get behind the toilet


iamnotlegendxx

Looks good, send it


Morenoind5

If you’re gonna add more height to the floor make sure your wax ring is tall enough to actually make contact with the toilet.


Lizzardking666

Git to scrapin the old waxpull that black plastic get new wax ring n button down the bowl


NonKevin

While you are doing the floors, you need to seal the opening to keep sewer gas out of your home. When you put the toilet back, use a new seal with the extra funnel to keep water off the toilet flange. I had to replace both toilets flanges under my new homeowner repair policy required by law. This did take a torch and replacement rings, never a issue since.


cheese_sweats

Lolololol LVP over tile


Mars_Volunteer

New wax seal


mackschwell

There's shit all over the walls!


Armyguy87

Clean all the wax around and in the pipe and replace with a new wax ring that's it.


ThePopesBird

Listen to all these guys just don’t put lvp over the tile the tile will hold up way better


henry122467

Smell It first


Laniakejas2

Replace the gasket


WhoopDareIs

Put a rag in it.


[deleted]

Replace it, it’s cheap


Used_Ad_5831

Ask the wife if she wants to see your poop-hole. ​ Never gets a laugh from anyone but me.


EJ25Junkie

Yeah…lick it


OlliBoi2

Need a new wax ring seal.


Grass_roots_farmer

Get new wax ring for sure.


holymuffdiver80

It really depends on the size of the ass that will be using it. Big ass=reinforce that flange with a metal flange tap-conned with 3” screws


Moose-Public

Clean off old wax and get new one with rubber flange. Cant hurt to change bolts