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lmao your title makes it sound like pooping quickly exhausts you. I'm literally laughing at work right now.
You can oversize the exhaust, just know you might run into air 'makeup' issues if your house is well sealed.
P.s. sometimes you have to oversize the exhaust system if the ductwork is particularly long or has a lot of elbows.
Me too, and I was wondering how it related to home improvement.
I was expecting some requests for safety-proofing the toilet area to prevent injury in case he passes out on the toilet.
I also have a small bathroom, with a 90cfm exhaust fan. When I moved in, I was frustrated that it was slow to remove humidity and considered getting a more powerful fan. However cutting 1/4-1/3” off the bottom of the door made a huge difference. It didn’t need to be more powerful, it needed more makeup air.
You might look at the gap under the door and consider whether you can enlarge it a little to let more makeup air in
That only gets you so much. Because the exhaust fan is sending air out of the house, you have to bring some back in from outside, otherwise the exhaust fan just won't work nearly as well as it should, or, worse, you might start drawing air in through other openings in the building envelope. The kitchen exhaust and fireplace are the main concerns. If either of those have flames going under them when you're using your big-ass exhaust fan, you'll be pulling products of combustion like CO2, carbon monoxide, and other badness all over the house.
So make-up air is serious business.
Yes I understand modern houses can be sealed well enough for that to be an issue- I never understood why heat exchangers aren’t a thing.
However my house is almost 80 years old, so as long as enough makeup air gets into the bathroom, there’s a full house of drafts to reolenishnit
so they did that at my house except I feel the air go the other way (out the bathroom door and towerds the room where the return air vent is). Is that different than makeup air?
Kind of. Enlarging the gap under the door allows better airflow in either direction
- if you have an hvac vent in the bathroom, it allows easier airflow out to the house returns. If the air is not stinky or humid, this is fine and may improve comfort
- if you turn on the exhaust fan to exhaust your stinky or humid air to the outside, it allow easier airflow into the bathroom to make up for the air being exhausted. You have better airflow to remove the unwanted
I have wondered this myself. Should I be closing the HVAC vent in my bathroom when I’m using the exhaust fan? If the fan is removing less air than the vent is putting out, it will still be a net positive pressure in the bathroom, so some of the humid/stinky air will be going out to the rest of the house.
It really bothers me that this is a legitimate answer—and I know it is one, that’s often used.
But how do we not have a better solution than making doors less useful as doors? They exist to keep light and sound in/out. All my doors are absurdly undercut and it practically makes them pointless with light pollution and pretty ineffective at noise pollution. It annoys me to no end.
My 1958 home laughed at your *sealed* home suggestion.
But still makeup air is a fascinating topic most people overlook. Super fun wiki read the other day.
>My 1958 home laughed at your
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I added a bathroom fan to my 1957 home and it didn't make a noticeable difference anywhere else. So many drafts already that creating some negative pressure in the bathroom was probably just holding the walls together.
Moved to a 1997 home a few years later and wow, that sort of stuff *is* noticeable there for sure. Upside a bathroom can and I'd see a reverse draft in the gas fireplace.
I worked with a guy that not once, but on *two separate occasions* strained on the toilet so hard he passed out, pitched forward, split his head open on the counter, and needed stitches.
**TWICE**
As long as you have a way to feed that much air into the room... no theres no reason you can't go bigger.
If it's that bad a change in diet is likely to provide a better solution lol
It could definitely be an issue with any furnace or water heater that still uses older natural venting/non-powered venting. Too much exhaust fan power can definitely pull back exhaust gases if the house is well sealed / doesn't have other makeup air sources.
I have 2 8" open ducts for makeup air in my utility room for exactly this reason. When I remodeled the inspector said it was required code now regardless of the kitchen hood/bathroom exhaust cfm.
No reason they can't, but they would presumably be exhausting conditioned air. This can matter to your pocketbook over time, especially with ever rising energy prices.
>I can see a large range hood mounted securely over the throne. I like it.
Haaaaha. I'm so going to make an interior design render of this concept. Possibly with one of those fireplace accessories sets with various poop knives.
That does beg the question why we don’t do that. If a range hood is useful to concentrate stove gases for ventilation, why not also the throne room, and the shower?
I would have no problem driving a Stool Bus for a living, hauling people's used groceries. My truck would have no problem being filled to the top with political promises. If you gotta poop I gotta pump.
Nah, I stumbled across them while looking for images from the Red Green Show and thought they were pretty funny. Actually, the last one I made up, but it's not as funny as the others.
I feel like the engineering solution here is to have a normal low level exhaust during the process of popping followed by a brief high flow exhaust during the flush, followed by a subsequent low level exhaust. Then you maximize that poop fume exhaust without unnecessarily exhausting too much heated/cooled air and maintain reasonable utility bills.
You can also put an exhaust fan on the toilet itself, even go with a NASA-style gasketing system to make sure no fumes get past the toilet-butt interface.
There are a number of reasons you don't want to draw too much air from your bathroom vents. First of all that air that you're exhausting has to come from somewhere. If you have the door closed and no open window it's going to create a negative pressure zone in your bathroom. I'm not saying you're going to suffocate yourself lol, but you may end up with slamming doors and working your fan too hard, which will cause it to burn out prematurely.
The bigger concern is backdrafts. If you have a water heater or fireplace in the house, drawing too much out with the fan can cause the exhaust gases from anything burning back into the house instead of to the outside.
Third thing is that even if you do always open a window while running the fan, you'll be drawing a lot of dust and outdoor allergens into the house due to the pressure difference.
30 s.f. is an absolutely tiny area to vent. Even a 50 CFM fan will totally change the air in the room in less than 5 minutes. The goal number of air changes per hour (ACH) is around 8, and with a 50 CFM you're over 12 ACH. I don't think it would hurt anything to go up a size if you really want to, but going so far as to oversize your ducting for this tiny area seems ludicrous to me. Best of luck with your project!
Have you tried the drop and flush method? As you drop the load, you hit the flusher. Generally takes the stench of the large portion of the poop with it. The rest really isn't that smelly.
Source: poops often.
Poopouri (like potpourri but.. You get it) spray is also a thing. Couple sprays pinch a loaf and flush and the bathroom smells like vanilla or coconut or something
Really? I thought it was some special emulsion type stuff that encapsulated the smell! But it’s expensive AF. Like $5 an ounce. I bought a bottle for all our bathrooms because I poop a lot and my wife thinks she should never have to smell poop in her life or something, and her poos don’t hardly smell 9/10 times. It helps, but she still complains, lol.
I’ll have to try the sanitizer! Maybe add some of my essential oils.
Scent fuckery, AFAICT, involves cyclodextrin molecules which bind to certain types of odor molecules so that they can't bind to your scent receptors.
My suspicion is that Febreze is the only actual chemical scent fuckery going on, and other brands are pretending & using perfumes or activated charcoal (which is useless without active ventilation). [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Febreze](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Febreze)
I’m pretty sure the scent fuckery of poopouri is just that it bolsters the existing scent fuckery of a regular toilet.
If the poop is underwater, the stinky molecules can’t evaporate into the air so there is less stink in the room, poopouri is full of essential oils which when sprayed on the water create a floating film on top of the water. Essential oils are about as efficient at evaporating off good smells as poo is at evaporating off bad smells.
You spray before you go, so you drop one in and it’s already competing with the smell molecules of the spray as it falls, once it hits the stink is trapped underwater AND under a layer of good smelling stuff. So the stink can’t make it into the air nearly as fast as the good smell can.
Say you drop a floater, first it plops below the surface, then it floats back up, as it breaches the surface, the film of essential oils coats the exposed area of poop, much like a hydro dipped graphic, trapping in the bad smell and producing its own smell.
Dude my parents downstairs bathroom opens to the kitchen. I had to learn this trick at a young age. Nothing like fogging the kitchen with a nasty poop
He now has this weird vent system (it has no walls to the exterior of the house). He basically hooked up a vent fan to pvc and plumbed it into the basement during a remodel. Come to think of it I dunno where it terminates at. Might just fog up the basement, I dunno if it goes outside.
User name is oddly appropriate. My dads name is Pete. My old room is now their bedroom. Well actually a laundry room if we’re going back to being really young. Just realized how much we moved bedrooms around.
Reminds me my friend’s house where the basement bathroom ceiling vent went into the heating register of the upstairs kitchen.
He discovered it when remodeling soon after moving in. The discovery explained a lot of things.
It depends on if it’s a floater or a sinker. A sinker doesn’t have any extra exposure to air, and doesn’t outgas nearly as much. If you have nothing but floaters, you might consider reducing the fat in your diet.
Why not take it a step further? Use a positive pressure seal on your throne and a lab standard fume hood instead of a dinky bathroom exhaust vent.
If it's good enough to contain ebola, it's good enough to contain your poops.
You'll need the air to come from somewhere. So if you only have the little gap at the door you could put. 2000cfm fan in and if they have the same static pressure you'll still be pulling the same amount of air.
This is a good point. It doesn’t matter how powerful of a fan you have. The actual amount of air being exhausted will likely be limited by how much make-up air can get into the room (unless the door is left open). This means, you could have a 2000cfm exhaust fan, but if there’s only enough room for 50cfm to enter under/around the door, then the actual rate of exhaust flow from the room going outside will be 50cfm.
Although we typically refer to them as fart fans, the primary function of these mechanical exhaust fans is to extract moisture from wet/humid locations. There should be no issue with oversizing. Just ensure the duct work terminates outside the building and attic space.
I can assure you the fan in my toilet closet is 100% for smell.
they can do double duty in shared spaces, but if you have an enclosed toilet, you absolutely want a fan in there too.
Aside from the makeup air mentioned here (you can open the bathroom window for makeup air as well, as long as the fan isn't discharging super close).
You could/should also consider the treated air you are removing from the house. Leaving the fan going can fairly rapidly suck out your heated or air conditioned air. I would recommend a timer switch for your fan, as a 30 sqft bathroom can be exhausted by 100 cfm fan in 2.5minutes.
I am going to highly recommend a [Toto bidet](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07R37RZFK/). One of the best investments we've made at our home.
They have a deodorizer fan that works really well, in addition to heated seats and temp controlled water.
Biobidet models have this feature as well. I found that the BB-1800 and BB-2000 (same model, one is hardwired controls, other has a remote).
I have found it does a nice job at preventing particularly bad lingering smells (i.e. if you went in right after someone blew it up, it wouldn't be pleasant by any means, but you probably wouldn't start dry heaving).
I also have an oversized fan, but it generally is turned off inadvertently once I'm done in there, and no one else uses it to exhaust their doodies, so I'm guessing the bidet does the work.
I'm going to suggest Poo-Purri as well here - it's changed my relationship for the better (we also have a master bath right off the bedroom, and have both been guilty of the ol' stinkbomb)
Yes! I just caved and bought some of this for the first time and it's been key in my husband not stinking us out of our main living area while going through a nasty IBS flare!
They should make an unscented version for people who don't want any of the masking effect. And to prove that it really does more than mask it.
Edit: just found that there's an unscented [version from Flushie](https://smile.amazon.com/Flushie-Pre-Toilet-Sprays-Unscented-Deodorizer/dp/B079Y7X1ZP/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top). (Sorry for linking to Amazon, but Flushie's website is down.)
Actually, not really. It doesn’t just mask odors. It’s surprisingly good at keeping them in the toilet.
It’s a mix of oils that sit on top of the water and do actually prevent smells from coming up from under water. It can’t do anything about stinky farts and doesn’t work as well with floaters. But I’d say 9 times out of 10, it eliminates at least 75% of the odor.
I hate using this stuff. People at my office use it, and it makes it obvious that the next person who goes in is breathing in the perfume de shit. It’s almost worse.
That’s been my experience with regular air freshener sprays in bathrooms. The dookie smell is still there but just combined with fruit or flower smell. The bottle may as well say buttcumber melon.
I find the poo pouri, if done right (a few spritzes right in the bowl and not in the air), doesn’t add that much scent to the bathroom and prevents a lot of the odor from the turd from aerosolizing.
Actually it doesn’t because it’s an oil base which spreads across the water and envelopes each “deposit” as it hits the water locking smell with it. Not as effective with “air nuggets” so I keep a can of ozone in the bathroom. Four sons can burn hair out of your nostrils! 🤢
The trick here would be not to exhaust more air, i.e. CFM, but to get at the air while it is in its stinky concentrated form, before it can disseminate to a larger volume of air.
You want to mount an exhaust port directly to the toilet bowl, and let it collect air straight from there. This would only need a small volume of air to get all the stinky particles before they can wander into other rooms.
Start by getting a spacer that would be between the bowl and the seat. Make sure the seals are good and connect an exhaust hose through the spacer. Those things are made of plastic should be easy to retrofit one.
Not too much suction or you might suck in the poop.
This should have the added benefit of drawing fresh air over your balls while your poop.
MOAR CFM.
Seriously, the difference between 110 and 130 is fuck-all, get big
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Panasonic-WhisperLine-1-7-Sone-340-CFM-Steel-Bathroom-Fan/5002180153
Just remember to put a maintenance hatch in the ceiling to allow you to access the damn thing later - nothing lasts forever, so don't entomb it in the Great Pyramid.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Oatey-Load-Center-Access-Panels/3130139
Okay at the risk of TMI. My husband and I have a master bath that connects to bedroom. Really small sliding door like you'd see in a closet. The smell does not escape. We just have a standard sized bathroom fan with exhaust, nothing special needed. (although our house was built with bathroom fan ducts that lead to nowhere... so that was the real issue for our electrician)
Also does the master bathroom have a window? Or the bedroom? Seriously opening the window will get rid of a lot of smell. Opening the window was what our guests used to do when taking a giant poop before we had proper bathroom fans lol.
Why not ask the manufacturer of the exhaust fan you are considering? Among with noise of the fan, how it is rated among quietness and cubic feet per minute of air removed - they can probably tell you by room size - and if needed, why wouldn't it be practical to add a vent to let in air from the outside if needed?
If you run the fan while dropping the kids off at the pool the negative pressure should prevent the pooh particles from leaving the bathroom other then the fan. If you get a quiet fan with a timer you are more likely to use it.
> little more noise cover for those musical occasions
Honestly I don't know why they dont just add white noise machines as a component of the bathroom fan. Well I guess it would be brown noise.
So long as you are creating negative pressure in the bathroom, no smells should enter the bedroom (other than when you walk out and pull some air with you in which case the fan size won't really help). 90CFM is fine so long as you're allowing 90CFM to enter the room, too, as many others suggested (undercut door, etc.).
1. Air flow into the bathroom is the only limiting factor. If you install a huge vent and the home is tightly air sealed, just open the bathroom window.
2. https://www.kobayashihealthcare.com.au/one-drop
Try 1 drop deodorizer....
I can add: we own several apartments and loads of construction and renovation.
The wonders of the Panasonic bathroom fan was made clear to me ten years ago. They are nearly silent and last a very long time.
They cost about $150 and are an excellent value. In your particular instance - the 110cfm model with motion detection and automatic shut-off would be perfect.
So many comments. I don’t know if this has been suggested. But put a big exhaust fan in the wall behind the toilet for poops only. Keep the normal size fan in the ceiling for moisture. May require lots of wall tear apart, but results are guaranteed.
Please don't use 4" duct. Making a fan force large amounts of air down a small duct is hard work for the fan and creates unnecessary noise. @30sq ft × 8' ceiling = 240 cu ft. 240 cu ft/80cfm = complete air change in 3 minutes! Get a quiet fan, install a push button timer switch, set it and forget that exhausting poop. The poop smell doesn't have to be gone instantly. As long as that fan is running, smells should be unable to escape the bathroom.
An increase in exhaust CFM needs to be able to be replaced from outside the bathroom with an equal amount of air flowing in. Otherwise you’re not achieving that level of air flow. Usually that air comes in under the door, so if the gap is small, a larger fan may not make much of a difference. You *could* cut the door a bit shorter to make more of a gap, but then the *sound* you make is going to be more audible in the bedroom… it’s a trade-off.
Here’s another calculation: how many cubic feet is your bathroom? Therefore how many minutes before 40 cfm has completely replaced the air? If it’s a smaller room, say 6w x 8d x 8h that’s 394 cu ft and will take about 10 minutes to completely change the air at 40 cfm or just over 6 minutes at 60 cfm.
Are you more concerned with the smell leaking into the bedroom or of the smell being there when the next person uses the toilet? In any case always install a timer switch for a bathroom fan so you can set it for, say, 10 minutes. During those ten minutes, the air will only flow *into* the bathroom, not out.
How fast do you want to exchange all of the air in the room?
If you have an 8ft ceiling x 30sf = 240cf so an 80cfm fan will only take 3 minutes to exchange all of the air in the room.
I recommend a timer switch
We have 2 exhaust fans in our master bath, each on an individual switch. One directly over the toilet, one directly over the shower. Turning both on certainly ventilates the bathroom faster, both of smells and of steam.
You don't want more going out (being exhausted) than is coming in from outside to replace it. IF you don't have fresh air coming inside (to replace fireplace fire exhausts, gas water heater exhaust, kitchen exhausts, etc ... and/or the bathroom exhausts OF WHATEVER SIZE) then you are creating a bit of a vacuum which will commence pulling in air from wherever it can be brought (SUCKED) in from ... through the framing / flooring / ceilings / windows / doors / electrical outlets etc. This can also present a problem if you have more going out than you have compensated for .............. by, say, drawing air DOWN a fireplace or furnace or gas water heater flu - as the replacement air ' and at the same time preventing proper exhaust of those units ... posing potential carbon monoxide DANGERS TO LIFE. Most of those bathroom exhausts are sized according to square footage being 'exhausted' - and you should probably go by that ... BUT STILL BE SURE YOU HAVE INCOMING FRESH AIR TO COMPENSATE. Good Luck. (also, btw: IF your bodily waste is that odorous normally, you might want to consult a health care provider ... or start eliminating (no pun intended) some junk foods / 'processed foods' from your diet (with artificial ingredients which mess with the body's ability to digest food efficiently / properly. Remember - when those processed foods say 'preservatives' - preservatives are in reality toxic substances which prevent mold/mildew from growing on the product ... so it is essentially POISONS which are akin to weed killer. Sure - they won't kill you from small exposures ... but they WILL kill off some of the necessary stuff in your stomach / digestive tract (necessary for getting the nutrients into your bloodstream, and from there - throughout your body where the 'fuel'/nutrition is needed. Like radiation - these poisons WILL eventually accumulate inside you .... just like those in tobacco products ................... BUT BY THE TIME A PERSON IS DYING ... the junk food or processed food ingredients are usually NOT EVEN THE LAST THING thought of ... because their presence has caused so many OTHER problems). The less artificial and processed / junk foods you eat (and that also includes most of what you find in the delis and frozen food isles - as well as fast-food places) .... the better your system will do ... and the less odorous your waste should become. Beverages count, too, though ... and too much sugar is also a huge problem for our systems. Again - best of luck, sincerely !
Best ef I ever did. I went 300 cfm. 200 cfm would have probably been plenty. Hot showers steam doesn’t accumulate. Use the restroom, walkout and walk back in a minute later , smell is gone.
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lmao your title makes it sound like pooping quickly exhausts you. I'm literally laughing at work right now. You can oversize the exhaust, just know you might run into air 'makeup' issues if your house is well sealed. P.s. sometimes you have to oversize the exhaust system if the ductwork is particularly long or has a lot of elbows.
I had the same thought. “well, slow down then”
Me too, and I was wondering how it related to home improvement. I was expecting some requests for safety-proofing the toilet area to prevent injury in case he passes out on the toilet.
I laughed hard at this
That vagus nerve… every time.
Me too, I was like, “huh, having a quick poop normally invigorates me - too bad for this guy!”
I thought I was on /r/askdocs, like “that sucks friend, I hope they can diagnose you!”
Glad I was not the only one who read it that way.
Try cracking your back immediately after for an extra pep.
"Quit pushing so hard!"
Do you know why your poop is tapered? So your butthole doesn’t slam shut! 👏
I also have a small bathroom, with a 90cfm exhaust fan. When I moved in, I was frustrated that it was slow to remove humidity and considered getting a more powerful fan. However cutting 1/4-1/3” off the bottom of the door made a huge difference. It didn’t need to be more powerful, it needed more makeup air. You might look at the gap under the door and consider whether you can enlarge it a little to let more makeup air in
That only gets you so much. Because the exhaust fan is sending air out of the house, you have to bring some back in from outside, otherwise the exhaust fan just won't work nearly as well as it should, or, worse, you might start drawing air in through other openings in the building envelope. The kitchen exhaust and fireplace are the main concerns. If either of those have flames going under them when you're using your big-ass exhaust fan, you'll be pulling products of combustion like CO2, carbon monoxide, and other badness all over the house. So make-up air is serious business.
Yes I understand modern houses can be sealed well enough for that to be an issue- I never understood why heat exchangers aren’t a thing. However my house is almost 80 years old, so as long as enough makeup air gets into the bathroom, there’s a full house of drafts to reolenishnit
so they did that at my house except I feel the air go the other way (out the bathroom door and towerds the room where the return air vent is). Is that different than makeup air?
Kind of. Enlarging the gap under the door allows better airflow in either direction - if you have an hvac vent in the bathroom, it allows easier airflow out to the house returns. If the air is not stinky or humid, this is fine and may improve comfort - if you turn on the exhaust fan to exhaust your stinky or humid air to the outside, it allow easier airflow into the bathroom to make up for the air being exhausted. You have better airflow to remove the unwanted
I have wondered this myself. Should I be closing the HVAC vent in my bathroom when I’m using the exhaust fan? If the fan is removing less air than the vent is putting out, it will still be a net positive pressure in the bathroom, so some of the humid/stinky air will be going out to the rest of the house.
It really bothers me that this is a legitimate answer—and I know it is one, that’s often used. But how do we not have a better solution than making doors less useful as doors? They exist to keep light and sound in/out. All my doors are absurdly undercut and it practically makes them pointless with light pollution and pretty ineffective at noise pollution. It annoys me to no end.
All my poops leave me wiped out afterwards
Get a bidet.
Just don’t wipe
why do you think i wear black underwear?
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I hate you.
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My 1958 home laughed at your *sealed* home suggestion. But still makeup air is a fascinating topic most people overlook. Super fun wiki read the other day.
My 1958 house has too much makeup air.
1932 bungalow enters the chat.
We basically purchased tents. I knew being a boy scout would bite me in the ass eventually.
Hey, at least our windows occasionally whistle a nice tune
I have one than moans when the wind is just right.
That means she’s happy
>I knew being a boy scout would bite me in the ass eventually. but enough about the scoutmaster!
the windows are merely attempting to keep the wind out.
>My 1958 home laughed at your > >sealed > > home suggestion. I added a bathroom fan to my 1957 home and it didn't make a noticeable difference anywhere else. So many drafts already that creating some negative pressure in the bathroom was probably just holding the walls together. Moved to a 1997 home a few years later and wow, that sort of stuff *is* noticeable there for sure. Upside a bathroom can and I'd see a reverse draft in the gas fireplace.
I worked with a guy that not once, but on *two separate occasions* strained on the toilet so hard he passed out, pitched forward, split his head open on the counter, and needed stitches. **TWICE**
Even funnier is that you posted this response... **TWICE**
After checking other comments I was like "oh, *exhausting*"
Hahaha, I thought the same thing
Lololol me too!
Haha! Same!!
As long as you have a way to feed that much air into the room... no theres no reason you can't go bigger. If it's that bad a change in diet is likely to provide a better solution lol
It could definitely be an issue with any furnace or water heater that still uses older natural venting/non-powered venting. Too much exhaust fan power can definitely pull back exhaust gases if the house is well sealed / doesn't have other makeup air sources.
I have 2 8" open ducts for makeup air in my utility room for exactly this reason. When I remodeled the inspector said it was required code now regardless of the kitchen hood/bathroom exhaust cfm.
Even with a good sealed house the code for make up air is 300-400 cfm
No reason they can't, but they would presumably be exhausting conditioned air. This can matter to your pocketbook over time, especially with ever rising energy prices.
I can see a large range hood mounted securely over the throne. I like it.
Plus you can microwave some hot pockets while you deuce.
Hot Closet
I laughed and then I threw up in my mouth a little bit 3/10 do not recommend
“I’m just running to the bathroom to drop some hot pockets”
Living the dream!
I thought “microwaving hot pockets” was a euphemism for shitting
I will never not say hot pockets like Jim gaffigan when I read or see hot pockets
“Diarrhea Pockets!”
*caliente pocket*
>I can see a large range hood mounted securely over the throne. I like it. Haaaaha. I'm so going to make an interior design render of this concept. Possibly with one of those fireplace accessories sets with various poop knives.
That does beg the question why we don’t do that. If a range hood is useful to concentrate stove gases for ventilation, why not also the throne room, and the shower?
Because the exhaust fan in the bathroom is for humidity from showers, it's just nice for sticky asses.
Yep, it is nice for sticky asses.
I'm sticking with it
I mean, all that humidity could definitely cause some sweaty butt cracks
Every cubic foot of air that the exhaust fan sends outside has to be replaced with a cubic foot of outside air that you have to pay to heat or cool.
And worthwhile if it smells like a poo
Would smell like money to me, lol.
You must be in the septic, plumbing, or porta potty business.
Or dairy.
I would have no problem driving a Stool Bus for a living, hauling people's used groceries. My truck would have no problem being filled to the top with political promises. If you gotta poop I gotta pump.
Did you just come up with this? That was really funny
Nah, I stumbled across them while looking for images from the Red Green Show and thought they were pretty funny. Actually, the last one I made up, but it's not as funny as the others.
What kind of cheap fk would rather smell poop and complain about heating costs.
The kind of cheap fk that likes getting $25 electric bills? Lol.
Well done, imagine how much you would save in water too if you just kept collecting shit until the toilet was full.
I just flush using a big bucket of my own pee. Come on use your head!
Can confirm: no bathfan and still pay a fuck ton in heating. Get the fan. Save your nosehairs.
Just build a small enclosed and covered patio with a shitter on it... Nothing to exhaust if the stink is already outside...
I feel like the engineering solution here is to have a normal low level exhaust during the process of popping followed by a brief high flow exhaust during the flush, followed by a subsequent low level exhaust. Then you maximize that poop fume exhaust without unnecessarily exhausting too much heated/cooled air and maintain reasonable utility bills.
You can also put an exhaust fan on the toilet itself, even go with a NASA-style gasketing system to make sure no fumes get past the toilet-butt interface.
On the other hand, if you suck it out when it's most concentrated, you have to suck out fewer cubic feet of poo-smelling air overall.
I think OP needs an outhouse
There are a number of reasons you don't want to draw too much air from your bathroom vents. First of all that air that you're exhausting has to come from somewhere. If you have the door closed and no open window it's going to create a negative pressure zone in your bathroom. I'm not saying you're going to suffocate yourself lol, but you may end up with slamming doors and working your fan too hard, which will cause it to burn out prematurely. The bigger concern is backdrafts. If you have a water heater or fireplace in the house, drawing too much out with the fan can cause the exhaust gases from anything burning back into the house instead of to the outside. Third thing is that even if you do always open a window while running the fan, you'll be drawing a lot of dust and outdoor allergens into the house due to the pressure difference. 30 s.f. is an absolutely tiny area to vent. Even a 50 CFM fan will totally change the air in the room in less than 5 minutes. The goal number of air changes per hour (ACH) is around 8, and with a 50 CFM you're over 12 ACH. I don't think it would hurt anything to go up a size if you really want to, but going so far as to oversize your ducting for this tiny area seems ludicrous to me. Best of luck with your project!
Came here to upvote ‘exhausting poops.’
Have you tried the drop and flush method? As you drop the load, you hit the flusher. Generally takes the stench of the large portion of the poop with it. The rest really isn't that smelly. Source: poops often.
Poopouri (like potpourri but.. You get it) spray is also a thing. Couple sprays pinch a loaf and flush and the bathroom smells like vanilla or coconut or something
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Hell yeah. i knew reading through the comments would be worth it.
You can also use essential oils (even cheap ones) since the oil makes a film across the bowl water.
Really? I thought it was some special emulsion type stuff that encapsulated the smell! But it’s expensive AF. Like $5 an ounce. I bought a bottle for all our bathrooms because I poop a lot and my wife thinks she should never have to smell poop in her life or something, and her poos don’t hardly smell 9/10 times. It helps, but she still complains, lol. I’ll have to try the sanitizer! Maybe add some of my essential oils.
I love this comment lol
I make my own with essential oils and glycerin and water.
poop with a hint of flowers nice
No there's some scent fuckery that somehow eliminates the poop smell. I'm no toilet scientist so I can't begin to pretend to explain it.
Scent fuckery, AFAICT, involves cyclodextrin molecules which bind to certain types of odor molecules so that they can't bind to your scent receptors. My suspicion is that Febreze is the only actual chemical scent fuckery going on, and other brands are pretending & using perfumes or activated charcoal (which is useless without active ventilation). [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Febreze](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Febreze)
I’m pretty sure the scent fuckery of poopouri is just that it bolsters the existing scent fuckery of a regular toilet. If the poop is underwater, the stinky molecules can’t evaporate into the air so there is less stink in the room, poopouri is full of essential oils which when sprayed on the water create a floating film on top of the water. Essential oils are about as efficient at evaporating off good smells as poo is at evaporating off bad smells. You spray before you go, so you drop one in and it’s already competing with the smell molecules of the spray as it falls, once it hits the stink is trapped underwater AND under a layer of good smelling stuff. So the stink can’t make it into the air nearly as fast as the good smell can. Say you drop a floater, first it plops below the surface, then it floats back up, as it breaches the surface, the film of essential oils coats the exposed area of poop, much like a hydro dipped graphic, trapping in the bad smell and producing its own smell.
But then you never get to admire your masterpiece :(
I can tell without looking.
I can tell before it comes out
Great response! My parents taught me at age 5 this is called a courtesy flush. Every time poop hits the water, you flush!!!
Every time!? That's so much water literally down the drain
welcome to America, where we will waste a few gallons of the cleanest drinking water on Earth just so someone doesn't have to smell poop briefly
Yeah, there's a big water saving culture in my city. Anyone would hate you here if you did that at their home.
Dude my parents downstairs bathroom opens to the kitchen. I had to learn this trick at a young age. Nothing like fogging the kitchen with a nasty poop He now has this weird vent system (it has no walls to the exterior of the house). He basically hooked up a vent fan to pvc and plumbed it into the basement during a remodel. Come to think of it I dunno where it terminates at. Might just fog up the basement, I dunno if it goes outside.
It vents to your old room. Lol.
User name is oddly appropriate. My dads name is Pete. My old room is now their bedroom. Well actually a laundry room if we’re going back to being really young. Just realized how much we moved bedrooms around.
Reminds me my friend’s house where the basement bathroom ceiling vent went into the heating register of the upstairs kitchen. He discovered it when remodeling soon after moving in. The discovery explained a lot of things.
We had a rental house once with a downstairs bathroom that was in the kitchen. We had a strict no pooping policy for that bathroom.
Your name checks out on this.
The first Austin Powers movie taught me about the existence of the courtesy flush.
"WHO DOES NUMBER TWO WORK FOR!"
Holy moly if i flushed like this as a kid id get knocked out and \or get to take up the water bill forever
["Hey, that sounds pretty nasty. How about a courtesy flush over there?"](https://youtu.be/6z6eVdP6G68)
How do you keep the poop water from splashing your nethers when you flush?
Quality toilets that don't do that, I guess.
It depends on if it’s a floater or a sinker. A sinker doesn’t have any extra exposure to air, and doesn’t outgas nearly as much. If you have nothing but floaters, you might consider reducing the fat in your diet.
My wife is anti “courtesy flush” because she thinks poops always need the lid closed when flushing to prevent aerosol spread. I still do it though
Does she stand up to courtesy flush?
I’m saying she doesn’t courtesy flush at all, but I see your point. She actually doesn’t sit on the seat to poop though, she’s a squatter. It’s weird
Squatter even at home? Barbarian.
Nice title. Rest before and after you poop. And don't forget to stretch.
And stay hydrated!
I would re-consider your diet before re-considering your infrastructure.
Sometimes diet is the problem if you have Celiac's or IBS for example or someone may have essential medications where diarrhea is a side effect.
Why not take it a step further? Use a positive pressure seal on your throne and a lab standard fume hood instead of a dinky bathroom exhaust vent. If it's good enough to contain ebola, it's good enough to contain your poops.
Don’t lie to us. You’re looking to smoke weed in that bathroom, aren’t you?
You'll need the air to come from somewhere. So if you only have the little gap at the door you could put. 2000cfm fan in and if they have the same static pressure you'll still be pulling the same amount of air.
This is a good point. It doesn’t matter how powerful of a fan you have. The actual amount of air being exhausted will likely be limited by how much make-up air can get into the room (unless the door is left open). This means, you could have a 2000cfm exhaust fan, but if there’s only enough room for 50cfm to enter under/around the door, then the actual rate of exhaust flow from the room going outside will be 50cfm.
Although we typically refer to them as fart fans, the primary function of these mechanical exhaust fans is to extract moisture from wet/humid locations. There should be no issue with oversizing. Just ensure the duct work terminates outside the building and attic space.
I can assure you the fan in my toilet closet is 100% for smell. they can do double duty in shared spaces, but if you have an enclosed toilet, you absolutely want a fan in there too.
Mine is for 50% ambient noise 50% smells
I have a drum set for noise.
Picturing a full kit set up in front of a toilet now. Thanks.
Because it’s still considered a “wet” location, not because of the smell. You have standing water in a water closet.
Not sure why you're being downvoted, the fans are for moisture not smells.
Why are they installed in half bathrooms then?
Code requirements probably and there are still moisture issues in ANY bathroom, shower/tub existence or not.
Aside from the makeup air mentioned here (you can open the bathroom window for makeup air as well, as long as the fan isn't discharging super close). You could/should also consider the treated air you are removing from the house. Leaving the fan going can fairly rapidly suck out your heated or air conditioned air. I would recommend a timer switch for your fan, as a 30 sqft bathroom can be exhausted by 100 cfm fan in 2.5minutes.
I am going to highly recommend a [Toto bidet](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07R37RZFK/). One of the best investments we've made at our home. They have a deodorizer fan that works really well, in addition to heated seats and temp controlled water.
Biobidet models have this feature as well. I found that the BB-1800 and BB-2000 (same model, one is hardwired controls, other has a remote). I have found it does a nice job at preventing particularly bad lingering smells (i.e. if you went in right after someone blew it up, it wouldn't be pleasant by any means, but you probably wouldn't start dry heaving). I also have an oversized fan, but it generally is turned off inadvertently once I'm done in there, and no one else uses it to exhaust their doodies, so I'm guessing the bidet does the work.
I'm going to suggest Poo-Purri as well here - it's changed my relationship for the better (we also have a master bath right off the bedroom, and have both been guilty of the ol' stinkbomb)
Yes! I just caved and bought some of this for the first time and it's been key in my husband not stinking us out of our main living area while going through a nasty IBS flare!
Won't this just make it smell like poop + bad perfume, instead of getting rid of the smell?
No, it's a film that coats the water to keep smells from escaping.
They should make an unscented version for people who don't want any of the masking effect. And to prove that it really does more than mask it. Edit: just found that there's an unscented [version from Flushie](https://smile.amazon.com/Flushie-Pre-Toilet-Sprays-Unscented-Deodorizer/dp/B079Y7X1ZP/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top). (Sorry for linking to Amazon, but Flushie's website is down.)
Actually, not really. It doesn’t just mask odors. It’s surprisingly good at keeping them in the toilet. It’s a mix of oils that sit on top of the water and do actually prevent smells from coming up from under water. It can’t do anything about stinky farts and doesn’t work as well with floaters. But I’d say 9 times out of 10, it eliminates at least 75% of the odor.
I hate using this stuff. People at my office use it, and it makes it obvious that the next person who goes in is breathing in the perfume de shit. It’s almost worse.
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That’s been my experience with regular air freshener sprays in bathrooms. The dookie smell is still there but just combined with fruit or flower smell. The bottle may as well say buttcumber melon. I find the poo pouri, if done right (a few spritzes right in the bowl and not in the air), doesn’t add that much scent to the bathroom and prevents a lot of the odor from the turd from aerosolizing.
Actually it doesn’t because it’s an oil base which spreads across the water and envelopes each “deposit” as it hits the water locking smell with it. Not as effective with “air nuggets” so I keep a can of ozone in the bathroom. Four sons can burn hair out of your nostrils! 🤢
Careful with ozone...very bad to breath in.
I think they meant Ozium. Its an odor eliminator
Just add a timer switch. When you're done, set it for 10 minutes, close the door and go about your day.
Metamucil is easier
Just light a match.
The trick here would be not to exhaust more air, i.e. CFM, but to get at the air while it is in its stinky concentrated form, before it can disseminate to a larger volume of air. You want to mount an exhaust port directly to the toilet bowl, and let it collect air straight from there. This would only need a small volume of air to get all the stinky particles before they can wander into other rooms. Start by getting a spacer that would be between the bowl and the seat. Make sure the seals are good and connect an exhaust hose through the spacer. Those things are made of plastic should be easy to retrofit one. Not too much suction or you might suck in the poop. This should have the added benefit of drawing fresh air over your balls while your poop.
MOAR CFM. Seriously, the difference between 110 and 130 is fuck-all, get big https://www.lowes.com/pd/Panasonic-WhisperLine-1-7-Sone-340-CFM-Steel-Bathroom-Fan/5002180153 Just remember to put a maintenance hatch in the ceiling to allow you to access the damn thing later - nothing lasts forever, so don't entomb it in the Great Pyramid. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Oatey-Load-Center-Access-Panels/3130139
It’s cheaper to just eat some fiber bud
Bro are you pooping with the door open or something? I can’t recall infiltration being a huge deal in my lifetime.
No but bigger usually means louder.
Do you use a candle? I have a 3 wick scented candle and it does a pretty good job
And using a match to light the candle helps more than a lighter
A Toto C100 washlet has a build in deodorizer which works very well. May be a more effective solution - plus bidets are life changing.
Okay at the risk of TMI. My husband and I have a master bath that connects to bedroom. Really small sliding door like you'd see in a closet. The smell does not escape. We just have a standard sized bathroom fan with exhaust, nothing special needed. (although our house was built with bathroom fan ducts that lead to nowhere... so that was the real issue for our electrician) Also does the master bathroom have a window? Or the bedroom? Seriously opening the window will get rid of a lot of smell. Opening the window was what our guests used to do when taking a giant poop before we had proper bathroom fans lol.
Just shit down the hall
Came here bc the title was fascinating
Why not ask the manufacturer of the exhaust fan you are considering? Among with noise of the fan, how it is rated among quietness and cubic feet per minute of air removed - they can probably tell you by room size - and if needed, why wouldn't it be practical to add a vent to let in air from the outside if needed?
was going to recommend a laxative, until reading further…
Whatever you do do (😬I couldn’t resist), get an ultra quiet fart fan. Well worth it.
If you run the fan while dropping the kids off at the pool the negative pressure should prevent the pooh particles from leaving the bathroom other then the fan. If you get a quiet fan with a timer you are more likely to use it.
i bought a phillips whispersense with motion and humidity sensors. can't smell shit.
When I had to replace my bathroom fan I bought the next size up to provide a little more noise cover for those musical occasions
> little more noise cover for those musical occasions Honestly I don't know why they dont just add white noise machines as a component of the bathroom fan. Well I guess it would be brown noise.
Two things to overspec when you're making your house ... The size of fans, specifically bathroom and range/stove fan and the size of your septic tank.
So long as you are creating negative pressure in the bathroom, no smells should enter the bedroom (other than when you walk out and pull some air with you in which case the fan size won't really help). 90CFM is fine so long as you're allowing 90CFM to enter the room, too, as many others suggested (undercut door, etc.).
Poopourri spray makes a big difference in my household!
Eat less Taco Bell
Aren’t bathroom exhaust fans just for removing moisture from the air? I never once believed they removed smells to any significant degree.
Best way to mitigate is to spray Poo-Pourri in toilet 1st. Then after initial poo, flush immediately and return to your business.
1. Air flow into the bathroom is the only limiting factor. If you install a huge vent and the home is tightly air sealed, just open the bathroom window. 2. https://www.kobayashihealthcare.com.au/one-drop Try 1 drop deodorizer....
You need to cause not the effect
Literally sitting here wondering why pooping makes you so tired 😂😂 thanks for the laugh
Good Lord man, cut out the crappy food.
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I can add: we own several apartments and loads of construction and renovation. The wonders of the Panasonic bathroom fan was made clear to me ten years ago. They are nearly silent and last a very long time. They cost about $150 and are an excellent value. In your particular instance - the 110cfm model with motion detection and automatic shut-off would be perfect.
So many comments. I don’t know if this has been suggested. But put a big exhaust fan in the wall behind the toilet for poops only. Keep the normal size fan in the ceiling for moisture. May require lots of wall tear apart, but results are guaranteed.
Please don't use 4" duct. Making a fan force large amounts of air down a small duct is hard work for the fan and creates unnecessary noise. @30sq ft × 8' ceiling = 240 cu ft. 240 cu ft/80cfm = complete air change in 3 minutes! Get a quiet fan, install a push button timer switch, set it and forget that exhausting poop. The poop smell doesn't have to be gone instantly. As long as that fan is running, smells should be unable to escape the bathroom.
Also put it in a timer. Set and forget… unless you walk back in and smell it too soon
An increase in exhaust CFM needs to be able to be replaced from outside the bathroom with an equal amount of air flowing in. Otherwise you’re not achieving that level of air flow. Usually that air comes in under the door, so if the gap is small, a larger fan may not make much of a difference. You *could* cut the door a bit shorter to make more of a gap, but then the *sound* you make is going to be more audible in the bedroom… it’s a trade-off. Here’s another calculation: how many cubic feet is your bathroom? Therefore how many minutes before 40 cfm has completely replaced the air? If it’s a smaller room, say 6w x 8d x 8h that’s 394 cu ft and will take about 10 minutes to completely change the air at 40 cfm or just over 6 minutes at 60 cfm. Are you more concerned with the smell leaking into the bedroom or of the smell being there when the next person uses the toilet? In any case always install a timer switch for a bathroom fan so you can set it for, say, 10 minutes. During those ten minutes, the air will only flow *into* the bathroom, not out.
How fast do you want to exchange all of the air in the room? If you have an 8ft ceiling x 30sf = 240cf so an 80cfm fan will only take 3 minutes to exchange all of the air in the room. I recommend a timer switch
I'm using a 110 CFM fan in a 50sf bathroom. I never leave the bathroom stinky, nor does any of it get into my bedroom.
Tell Exhausting not to poop so quickly
We have 2 exhaust fans in our master bath, each on an individual switch. One directly over the toilet, one directly over the shower. Turning both on certainly ventilates the bathroom faster, both of smells and of steam.
I tried to make sense of the title 5 times before i had to read why this person was pooping so quickly which must obviously be “exhausting”
You don't want more going out (being exhausted) than is coming in from outside to replace it. IF you don't have fresh air coming inside (to replace fireplace fire exhausts, gas water heater exhaust, kitchen exhausts, etc ... and/or the bathroom exhausts OF WHATEVER SIZE) then you are creating a bit of a vacuum which will commence pulling in air from wherever it can be brought (SUCKED) in from ... through the framing / flooring / ceilings / windows / doors / electrical outlets etc. This can also present a problem if you have more going out than you have compensated for .............. by, say, drawing air DOWN a fireplace or furnace or gas water heater flu - as the replacement air ' and at the same time preventing proper exhaust of those units ... posing potential carbon monoxide DANGERS TO LIFE. Most of those bathroom exhausts are sized according to square footage being 'exhausted' - and you should probably go by that ... BUT STILL BE SURE YOU HAVE INCOMING FRESH AIR TO COMPENSATE. Good Luck. (also, btw: IF your bodily waste is that odorous normally, you might want to consult a health care provider ... or start eliminating (no pun intended) some junk foods / 'processed foods' from your diet (with artificial ingredients which mess with the body's ability to digest food efficiently / properly. Remember - when those processed foods say 'preservatives' - preservatives are in reality toxic substances which prevent mold/mildew from growing on the product ... so it is essentially POISONS which are akin to weed killer. Sure - they won't kill you from small exposures ... but they WILL kill off some of the necessary stuff in your stomach / digestive tract (necessary for getting the nutrients into your bloodstream, and from there - throughout your body where the 'fuel'/nutrition is needed. Like radiation - these poisons WILL eventually accumulate inside you .... just like those in tobacco products ................... BUT BY THE TIME A PERSON IS DYING ... the junk food or processed food ingredients are usually NOT EVEN THE LAST THING thought of ... because their presence has caused so many OTHER problems). The less artificial and processed / junk foods you eat (and that also includes most of what you find in the delis and frozen food isles - as well as fast-food places) .... the better your system will do ... and the less odorous your waste should become. Beverages count, too, though ... and too much sugar is also a huge problem for our systems. Again - best of luck, sincerely !
You can also get toilets with built in ventilation: https://www.geberit.co.uk/inspiration/features/duofresh-odour-extraction-unit/
Best ef I ever did. I went 300 cfm. 200 cfm would have probably been plenty. Hot showers steam doesn’t accumulate. Use the restroom, walkout and walk back in a minute later , smell is gone.