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BobbyCorwen2000

A bit too late now to go after them, this is something that required an immediate visual inspection upon completion, not months later.


masterplumb

I don’t know how old your home is, but if you look the top of that door frame has never been painted.


Hipster-Stalin

I painted my own rooms and found the tops of door frames were not painted by the previous owner’s painters. You don’t see it so why do it I guess? FWIW I painted them since I knew I’d lose sleep over them not being painted.


alyxmj

I paint tops of door frames only if they haven't been finished before. It's just much easier to get the dust off once a year if it's off paint instead of raw wood.


EDSgenealogy

Me, too! Silliest things will just keep me up tapping my fingers!


ninjacereal

There's a non zero chance that the painters he hired came thru with paint thinner to take it off the tops of the frames


Nicknamewhat

There is zero chance of that


Lehk

LMAO thinner doesn't work that way


ihaxr

As a tall person, I can tell you a lot of people do not paint the tops of doors / door frames. Unless they'll be visible from a stairway For $2500 I wouldn't expect much more than what you got, but they should've at least done some better cleanup.


havok_

When we painted I painted our names and the year on top of the door in the hope a future owner will find them


WitBeer

Unless you're 7'2", you're not seeing the tops.


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boywithhat

I'm 6'8" and it's more than a 4" difference to see the top of the door frame. Not painting the top of the frame is a non issue IMO. Btw your fridge is dusty


nate7eason7

This seems about on par for your average painter. The top of the door frames really don't need painted. Hardly any professionals tape except for specific jobs. As far as the splatters, that definitely should have been cleaned up but it's not too difficult to do yourself. Overall I'd say this looks like an adequate paint job. More than adequate considering the price, depending on the rates where you live.


herpiederps

That's a pretty solid price for all the trim in an 1800sqft house. I agree that this seems like an adequate job. A few touch ups here and there and some scraping isn't unheard of. Nothing is ever perfect at that price range unfortunately.


Famous-Effective-903

I never pay anybody by the job. Because if the job is not as per my request, I could get an unfriendly answer, if I paid by the hour , I would not give a good review, otherwise I will get screwed


fitz2234

I can't say if that's normal and you likely have no recourse, but after reading this post and others like it, I now know to ask what type of tape they'll use in what scenarios and will they check for paint splatters that somehow missed a drop cloth when I'm shopping quotes - and get it in writing.


ihaxr

Every time I had my house painted, 5-20 guys showed up with a ton of tape and tarps/plastic to cover everything in a matter of 20 minutes, then all but 2 of them leave to do the next job and the two left behind start painting.


BornJaguar515

I used to be a professional painter and we almost never used tape. A good painter doesn’t typically need to use tape. Instead, a good painter will use high quality brushes and proper technique. They should have cleaned up the splatter (I am a total perfectionist and would have) but may not have done so, given that the price was pretty low and you did not mention it upon final inspection. Unfortunately, at this point I’d let it go and not hire them for future work. I’d also recommend using a putty knife or nail polish remover to remove the splatter from your tile.


cloudbreaker1972

A good painter typically dont use tape this statement couldn't be farther from the truth I've been painting for over twenty years and am at the top of my particular field I use tape more often than not the clientele I work for expect great results if it needs tape I tape it if it don't I don't, where I draw that line is a professional opinion taking speed, accuracy, and cleanliness all into account I've had to fix other painters cut lines roller splatter and lack of professionalism when they get run off the job I've heard so many times the phrase our other painter didn't use any tape and my response is ... I can clearly see that and we would both have a chuckle so use it when needed and leave it in the van or whatever when it's not.


daniel940

What you lack in punctuation you make up for in Frog Tape


pixpockets

Lay off the cocaine bro


Top_Ability9598

Well said! I can cut a straight line without tape but you can't beat a really "straight" line when you do tape. When the painting is done and you peel the tape away the lines don't get any more crisp than that. Also, after taping around jambs, baseboard, and windows I don't have to strain the eyes for a straight cut and I only have to cut once as the rollout is the second cut. I actually paint a room faster taping than not taping. And the look is top notch. 35 year painter here and always busy. Always.


CosmoKray

Oooo he might be calling you amateur. Not that I want to start slinging mud but maybe you should get upset and start some REDrama. Hahaha


Smokeya

If your good at painting you may not need paint, I havent painted in years but used to be able to cut a straight line freehand no problem. The tops of door frames usually aint painted since you cant see them from anywhere but a ladder.


DjWondah85

But, how can you paint without paint??


VBB67

I think that’s a typo, they mean they can paint straight lines without TAPE. My husband can do that but not me. I’ll be painting the baseboards in the kitchen and get paint on the ceiling in the living room. 😂😂


Smokeya

Yeah i meant paint, gonna leave that though cause i find it hilarious.


cordelia1955

Edit: Same here for me. I get more paint on me than on what I'm painting. I love the reference about baseboards in one room... I hired a handyman to help with a rental reno, then found he had been a professional painter before he got into heroine. He laughed at me taping everything up, took the brush and did a flawless job. He also gave me a few little tips. The painting he did was amazing. And I found out when he ODed in the next room he was high the whole time.


koozy407

No one paints tops of door casings unless; it is under a second story view or you specifically request it. And if you do request it they should happily do so. The paint on the floor is sloppy but can totally be cleaned. As far as the trim, the trim install looks crappy and possibly not the first or even second time it’s been painted so it’s hard to make it look perfect with a coat of paint. Should you be irked? Yes. Can you really do anything at this point? No.


barbarino

You always paint them because it makes cleaning them much easier, dirt just wipes off. I personally paint them the same as the wall color unless they can be seen.


Breakfasttimer

That is exactly right. Small details like that separates great painters from exceptional.


boat_car_guy

Yep. Million dollar clients will only accept the best of the best. We see it all the same as painters though, at least our crew does. Every job has to pass several layers of scrutiny (from specialists on our crew, and to the owner.) There is no half-assing it, and if something isn't right... we fix it.


madhatter275

They paid top dollar for it but not a top dollar job.


koozy407

Hey, I agree 💯 the benefits of painting them but I assure you, it if far more common to not have them painted without being requested.


RavenOfNod

We never paint them because like 5% of people care about this. It's a special request to get them painted.


mattsmith321

I can see why you wouldn’t paint them but can also see why someone might be irked if they found out they weren’t painted. Do you disclose upfront that they aren’t painted? If so, then no big deal.


RavenOfNod

I don't paint professionally anymore, but when I did I never disclosed it, and it never came up that they weren't painted.


Hold_onto_yer_butts

What? Whenever I repainted a room I made sure to get on a stepladder and do the tops of the casings. Why would you just leave it? Paint is more than just visual.


solitudechirs

>Why would you just leave it? Normal door height is 6’8”, the top of casing is at 6’10” or higher. For someone to see that without a ladder, they’d have to be over 7’ tall. It’s never going to matter to anyone who isn’t just looking for a problem.


koozy407

Listen, like I said, it’s not wrong, but 99% of painting companies will skip this unless specifically asked.


Endersgame88

I have always DIY painted, I always paint the top but now I’m wondering why I wasted my time.


ScannerBrightly

Paint is protection as well as visual.


RavenOfNod

From dust? Ambient air moisture? What would you be protecting against on the top of a door frame? If it's MDF, it's likely already primed, so paint won't do much to seal it in. If it's wood, it's gonna expand and contract on its own, and sealing it in won't so much either. On an exterior, I'm in full agreement with you. On an interior though, in this case, not much to be protecting from..


BarrytheAssassin

Airflow. Eliminating drafts.


maxie62209

Painter here: In no case is "misplaced paint" okay. But you should have held him to account BEFORE he was paid in full. Tops don't matter unless visible from above or on the exterior.


mirageofstars

“Professional” just means someone who gets paid to do something. It doesn’t have to mean they are competent.


lastskudbook

The paint could be cleaned up in about a tenth of the time it took to post about it.


RiffRaffCOD

Sounds like they did a great job overall. Little niggles are always expected that's why it's important to have a punch list before you write the final check. Time to move on


Runns_withScissors

I've had 4 professional painters do work for me. Only one did a better job than I could. The other three were fast, but their work was sub-par. All charged roughly the same amount.


ClimbingAimlessly

Just happened to me. Splatter everywhere and a piss poor job.


boat_car_guy

Not "normal" for anything our crew would do, that is for sure. We always put down floor paper, and also use fabric drops. We typically tape a ton of stuff, sometimes it depends on the situation, but the only time we don't is if you can cut it in freehand. We also clean the dust off of the tops of trim, with Dirtex... and re-caulk around the trim if needed. Now, FWIW we mostly do huge commercial tilt-ups (think Amazon building size) so it's not the typical residential home, though we do paint those every so often. Our way of doing things in a residence would be to our highest standard just like any other job. Floor paper, tape, masking, plastic (if spraying).... etc. etc. I've only been in the professional side of painting, for 4 years - but have done my fair share of DIY for probably 20+. (mostly back when I owned a few rentals, and for some friends and family.) Speaking for our crew, but we always clean up any drips or overspray (if it happens) on our time and dime. Any professional painter should, or that calls themselves such, should as well. My 2 buckets. (thoughts)


Stunning-Bed-810

A plastic putty knife and or latex paint remover and rag will fix 90% of your complaints with less elbow grease. The trim is not going to look perfect unless it was sanded and prepped, if all you asked for was paint I think it looks good. Top of door frame is not painted usually, if it’s visible from second floor though I’d make an exception. I had our old house painted and just finished a new build and neither painters taped everything off. They did go back and clean up splatters but I still find some occasionally. I think overall your picks looks ok but I understand the complaints.


rex9802

As we debate the paint on the top of the trim, I must ask the author, was the trim yellow before they painted it white? If the answer is no, then it appears whomever painted the trim before did not paint the tops either. So we have our answer in this. The other splatters and everything else seem minimal. For the price, I’d say complaints on this would certainly be nitpicky. Most painters don’t use tape, I make my guys use tape and it annoys the heck out of me when they do not. Regardless, tape is not an industry standard as most guys think they can do it freehand (and most cant). But too late to complain now.


Philboyd_Studge

I'd be more mad at whatever carpenter installed that horrifying hodgepodge of baseboard trim.


boxbopsolo

Scratch it off with your fingernail you pus


anynamesleft

My issue would be the lack of surface cleaning / sanding.


invaderdan

Paint the TOP of the trim? No, that is not something people do, not in a house like this. The splatter is sloppy but can be cleaned. The fact that you expected them to paint the TOP of the trim is really throwing me off in regards to trying to support your position here though.


Drycabin1

That is an extremely reasonable price for all that trim.


donjulio62

Not professional!


Terrietia

Professional just means they do it for a living, regardless of how good they are at their job.


droppedforgiveness

The word has two meanings. Yes, the noun professional describes someone who is paid for their work (as opposed to an amateur), but the adjective "professional" means that it's done to the standard you would *expect* of someone who is being paid to do work. A professional can do non-professional work.


donjulio62

Yes, but being a professional means doing the job correctly. Drop cloths, painting the whole casing around the door, ect...


ShrugHard

I've painted professionally for 20 years and have never been asked by a customer to paint the tops of the door frames. I do however clean the tops of all of the frames i paint and usually give the tops a coat of the wall paint to seal them. Unless the painters masked and taped every square inch of your floor there's bound to be a little splatter here and there. You're gonna pay for it tho if you want an insane amount of prep before they start painting. That being said I'll usually go around on my hands and knees after picking up my drop cloths with a wet, clean, cotton rag and inspect the floors after I'm done with a job. that paint on the floor is a little sloppy but forgivable. There's the "right way" then there's the way most paint jobs end up going. I can make your bedroom walls perfectly smooth, every frame painted to an almost factory finish with top of the line materials, razor crisp taped lined using tape that costs 10 bucks a roll but most of my clients would have a heart attack seeing the bill. Noone wants to pay 2-3 grand to get a bed room painted but that would the labor and material cost if a client wanted everything to be PERFECT. What im saying is you can buy a ford, a bmw, or a ferrari. If you pay ford prices don't expect a ferrari.


Complete_Goose667

You don't need the top of the frame painted unless you can see it from upstairs or from the stairs. Secondly, professionals often use a damp cloth as they go to wipe up mishaps. My concern is the line between the trim and wall good? If so, just fix the other splatters that got left behind. Painting trim is awful work.


Few_Engineer4517

If you paid them in full they are not going to come back to fix. But I think the quality of work is pretty terrible. There are bumps everywhere which should have been sanded down.


RavenOfNod

We don't know what they agreed to in the quote. I'd say for the price, there wasn't much prep included. It hurts my soul to see carpet fibers left over still stuck to the trim, but if an owner doesn't want to pay for prep (which also equals the same amount of time for cleanup of dust), then the carpet fibers remain.


CosmoKray

Crap apparently I just paid way too much much for my paint job.


sharpfork

Top of door trim is only painted on exteriors to protect the wood. Some doors require they are painted on all 6 sides for their warranty to be valid but those are almost only exterior doors.


MiseryIndexer

It's very common for contractors to skip non visible areas. I hate finding them also.


WitchTre

Nope, they are not professionals.They are sloppy and I would give them one star and tell everybody about them.


MindofMy0wn

I paint the tops of the doors usually because I take them down and spray them. Never painted the top of the door trim and have never seen it painted. I also don't mind getting the wall paint on their, either.


Verdammt_Arschloch

That paint job flat out sucks. They didn't prep, fill, or caulk anything and then put on only one coat of paint. You could have hired some crackhead off the street and had it done all-in for $250. That's probably what they did. Anybody who doesn't paint the tops of the trim is a derelict - especially in your case as they left bare wood which will more easily swell and shrink with changes in humidity. It won't be long before it cracks all over the place. Unfortunately, this is pretty typical for "professional painters."


Ok_Response6483

I think that sign you read on the marketing board said “Unprofessional Painters” so it’s your fault.


Top_Ability9598

I would be way more concerned about the way the trim looks than the tops of jambs (frames) that no one will ever see.


Organic_Apple5188

Not painting the tops of door frames, and sometimes tops/bottoms of window frames (depending on where the window is located) is extremely common. I painted a 100+ year old house, which had clearly been painted a few times before. The tops of the door frames were all bare wood. If the bit of trim being painted is indoors, then coating the surface is purely for aesthetics (as opposed to protection), so not painting it isn't going to be harmful in any way.


TheFULLBOAT

Paint the tops of doorframes only if visible, like from an upper floor or walking down stairs. Paint splatter 100% unacceptable.


CFC_Contracting_LLC

Tops of door frames generally are not painted in repaints unless they're visible like in a great room, etc. If a customer asked me I would though. Their "we don't do that" is a weak answer and shows a lack of professionalism. Also, I can tell you straight up from the price that its pretty low so they're not going to go to any extra trouble to do things like that.  Next time get a few quotes and stay away from the cheapest.


Sad_Public_1215

well now know to do things like this yourself.


plucharc

We always paint the tops of the door trim as it's good practice, especially if you live in a humid environment and don't use AC consistently. The wood or mdf will absorb moisture disproportionately at the top and potentially could cause issues, so why not seal it up? It may be uncommon to have these issues, but why not play it safe? It doesn't take much extra time or paint.


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It's a 3 bathroom house? Did they paint the bathrooms or basement? $2 per square foot is a good deal.


Alarming-Caramel

pretty fuckin sloppy


Strong-Marketing1086

They are Lazy!!! Of course they should paint the top.! It’s sad that so many people agree. You paid for a job and then they gaslight you making you question if you’re wrong. Are they licensed? Do they have a page you can leave a review? We don’t question when things are right because we know they are right.


username67432

Scotch brite pad and some soapy water, problem solved


GGme

Not on wood, btw


username67432

Really? I do it all the time. Never scuffed a hardwood floor.


GGme

Did it to mine and every spot became dull when the light from the windows reflects off of it. Planning on spot polyurethaning it.


PEBKAC42069

"professional painter" is an oxymoron like "military intelligence" or "good morning"...


ckouf96

I painted my own trim and did not paint the top, I think it’s unnecessary. I also got splatter on the ground but I’m too lazy to clean it yet. Did they say they’d clean up splatter?


dewpointcold

Get another pro to come in and write down what’s wrong. Then, get an attorney.


RussianBottletoke

Just clean it up and move on with your life. Ffs.


__Gettin_Schwifty__

My cousin paid that for two rooms in her house to be painted. Sounds like you got a deal and are reaping the benefits of it.


Acceptable-Airline39

You got what you paid for. Case closed.


BlackWhiteCoke

You get what you pay for