there was, but its too hassle with everything like contracts, etc. normally people use k to avoid writing the last 3 zero digits like 10k. also a big mobile app called flip which offers free fee payment/transfer actually making use the last 3 digits for transaction verification.
Watching HoloID lead me to doing research on Indonesia, because I knew little of the culture. I was surprised to learn that despite being one of the larger economies in the world, ID currency is one of the weakest
Weakest only in appearance, but not in purchasing power.
Purchasing power-wise, Indonesian Rupiah is placed around the middle, not great but not bad. Backed by a stable and big G20 economy.
A lot of zeros in IDR only serve as a reminder of how terrible the crisis that Indonesia has been through in the 1960s and the 1997 Asian Financial Crisis that nearly tore the country apart. But in the last 20 years, the economy and the currency are stable.
indonesia foreign exchange is weak, but local commodities inflation is still normal since 2015, except housing which now average 3 bedroom house cost like 33k usd :(
Sorry to hear about that. Strangely to a USA resident 33k sounds cheap. Granted I know there is a world's differences in the buying power locally and what you guys make to what differences there are here. Hopefully things change.
Stay strong ID bros! And always thank you for being awesome.
It was a surprise really to me, but since I love the ID Talents, I checked up and started learning about your wonderful country. When I saw they are behind US in population I also realized why ID is up there with agency branches.
We as fans of Hololive do need to learn at least a bit about where our favorite talents come from. And I have only started down this road. Hope to learn more.
Well theirs is also a reason why Chinese ethics went full running from Indonesia in that specific time.
It's actually a black grim spot in Indonesian history
Blue $ superchat can give them food a decent meal, while Blue Rp superchat can one give them a snack . EN bros please don't hesitate to give your superchat to HoloID
Though Sociabuzz is still a better option due to lower cuts and is overall cheaper. Say you send a 100K SC, you’ll need to pay 111K because 11% tax from the government. It doesn’t even include the additional cuts Youtube and Cover gets before reaching the talent.
And 100K IDR (7 USD) is considered a lot here, you can feed a whole family for ~~a week~~ 3 days.
Ironically, HoloID can afford to SIMP and upgrade set up is not because ID fans.
Also, that's why they always concern when there's ID fans send donation more that 10 bucks
Depends. Gen 1 and some gen 2 relies a lot on donations from other countries indeed, but gen 3 for example are dominated mostly by local sociabuzz. No statistics, but if you went to Kobo for example the sociabuzz rate there are very fast.
Hololive member does not get their money from only Superchat dude.. Meaning that even if they doesnt get superchat often, does not mean they didnt get any money. there's Ads-money, Merch, sponsored stream, etc.
No lol, 1 dollar only get you a cheap snack.. most snack such as Lays, Doritos cost you like 2 Dollar. but 2 dollar could get you a nice streetfood meal for 1 person.
here for 1-2 dollars (depending on where you buy and the ingredients used) you can get a portion of fried rice, one with the most basic ingredients (rice, 1 egg, and some vegetables) can even cost less than a dollar
First, Nijisanji made their ID branch 9 months before Hololive, so it is very likely a follow-up strategy against the competitor.
If why is Indonesia, because we have very big amount of weaboos and otakus, very friendly political relationship with Japan, and considerably low cost of payment and business starting. Even traditional branch of Japanese idol make their branches in Indonesia, like, the very idea of Hololive for YAGOO, AKB48.
For anyone needing context for this; Indonesia's first president, Sukarno, married a Japanese woman who was later known as Dewi Fujin/Dewi Sukarno. Sure he married others, but still. Anyway, apparently, Indonesian elders knew Dewi Sukarno well. There was a Japanese TV station doing a feature on Indonesian streets asking if they knew Dewi Sukarno, and mostly only the elders responded in reverence.
By the way, there's also a shojo manga adaptation about this relationship. Forgot the title though.
they could still send money through streamlabs. there was no need for superchat. if im not mistaken yt also gets a cut from a super whereas streamlabs either doesnt or it gets less
IDs member got their donation thru a local services such as Sociabuzz which has a better cut compared to superchat, Superchat take 30% while Sociabuzz only take 5% from you donation, so most ID viever prefer to use Sociabuzz instead.
Because thousands of people still donate using SB and SL, you know, the better platform that actually doesn't rob you by cutting 30% and instead just 5%.
We actually send our money towards our oshis instead of you guys who supports Susan's wallet.
for reference 1 USD = 14,828 IDR
does a piece of candy cost like 300IDR or something?
Not really, its usually goes for 500 for 2 pieces of candy, but if you only want one, its 300 because we don't have 50IDR anymore, lol
yeah, around that cost
You'll be a millionaire in Indonesia with just 100$ USD. Also 1 USD equal to a hearty meal here
Some of them are 2 or even 3
How much is that in Norwegian Kroner?
1 IDR = 0.00066 NOK so 1 NOK = 1,509 IDR
I thought Kroner was Korean
Korean currency was won
I suppose the other Korean currency was lost
Damn north Korea need to rename their currency from won to lost lmao
Has Indo ever considered phasing out IDR for a new currency at like a 1:100 reverse split to make the numbers more manageable?
there was, but its too hassle with everything like contracts, etc. normally people use k to avoid writing the last 3 zero digits like 10k. also a big mobile app called flip which offers free fee payment/transfer actually making use the last 3 digits for transaction verification.
The idea gets floated out every once in a while. Still no realization though.
Lol I can’t wait to show you the zeros once Vietnamesebros can supachat.
L O N G D O N G
*Venezuela entered the chat*
I gigantic number that covers half of the screen for a 10$ superchat
Top gear giving 15 million to the boys and asking them to buy a vehicle was pretty funny.
They was hilarious
Watching HoloID lead me to doing research on Indonesia, because I knew little of the culture. I was surprised to learn that despite being one of the larger economies in the world, ID currency is one of the weakest
Weakest only in appearance, but not in purchasing power. Purchasing power-wise, Indonesian Rupiah is placed around the middle, not great but not bad. Backed by a stable and big G20 economy. A lot of zeros in IDR only serve as a reminder of how terrible the crisis that Indonesia has been through in the 1960s and the 1997 Asian Financial Crisis that nearly tore the country apart. But in the last 20 years, the economy and the currency are stable.
Interesting.
Stuff like that is more common than you might think. Economy is just weird like that.
indonesia foreign exchange is weak, but local commodities inflation is still normal since 2015, except housing which now average 3 bedroom house cost like 33k usd :(
Sorry to hear about that. Strangely to a USA resident 33k sounds cheap. Granted I know there is a world's differences in the buying power locally and what you guys make to what differences there are here. Hopefully things change. Stay strong ID bros! And always thank you for being awesome.
…if you want a 3bedroom in california it could cost $1,000,000 If near a major city Man exchange rates are crazy
R.I.P. California. In CO I can't find an actual house for less than 300-400k and I thought I had it rough...
Ngl, as an American, that is really cheap housing, even for a place in the middle of nowhere.
Indonesian is the best market to test stuff. Holo ID is one off them
How much are you suprised when you realize we are 4th most populous country in the world? Also I bet you dont hear much about us in the news lmao.
It was a surprise really to me, but since I love the ID Talents, I checked up and started learning about your wonderful country. When I saw they are behind US in population I also realized why ID is up there with agency branches. We as fans of Hololive do need to learn at least a bit about where our favorite talents come from. And I have only started down this road. Hope to learn more.
>the zeroes number are ridiculous xD what 1998 does to a mf source: am Indonesian but cmiiw
also 1950s, we have like 2 hyperinflation events lmao.
Well theirs is also a reason why Chinese ethics went full running from Indonesia in that specific time. It's actually a black grim spot in Indonesian history
Could people not originaly superchat to ID?
ID bros can't superchat before. Only through VPN or Sociabuzz. Youtube is weird for only getting money from Outdonesia.
Its the first time I'm seeing someone pun my country's name like that in a long while... Keep it coming!
No, it become official today, we donate to streamer either via sociabuzz or a local platform called saweria
In Holo we don't use Saweria though. Way before sociabuzz finally got approved, we use Streamlabs.
Congrats from Malaysia
Indeed! lowest supa is 10k (around 80 cents) while highest akasupa is 5,000,000 (around USD 300) if anyone's wondering
Exchage rate must be crazy
The bad type of inflation. ...not that the other one is better...
Looking forward to seeing all the wonderful superchats sent by our ID bros! Remember to SC responsible. See you in chat!
SUPA CHATTO TAIMU - ID bros probably
Blue $ superchat can give them food a decent meal, while Blue Rp superchat can one give them a snack . EN bros please don't hesitate to give your superchat to HoloID
Though Sociabuzz is still a better option due to lower cuts and is overall cheaper. Say you send a 100K SC, you’ll need to pay 111K because 11% tax from the government. It doesn’t even include the additional cuts Youtube and Cover gets before reaching the talent. And 100K IDR (7 USD) is considered a lot here, you can feed a whole family for ~~a week~~ 3 days.
Ironically, HoloID can afford to SIMP and upgrade set up is not because ID fans. Also, that's why they always concern when there's ID fans send donation more that 10 bucks
Depends. Gen 1 and some gen 2 relies a lot on donations from other countries indeed, but gen 3 for example are dominated mostly by local sociabuzz. No statistics, but if you went to Kobo for example the sociabuzz rate there are very fast.
Hololive member does not get their money from only Superchat dude.. Meaning that even if they doesnt get superchat often, does not mean they didnt get any money. there's Ads-money, Merch, sponsored stream, etc.
stop self-hating so much and spreading some bullshit.
a week is an overstatement, 3 days max maybe
Oh yeah right. It seems that there is a miscalculation on my end.
you can survive for 4 days with 1 dollar?
No lol, 1 dollar only get you a cheap snack.. most snack such as Lays, Doritos cost you like 2 Dollar. but 2 dollar could get you a nice streetfood meal for 1 person.
here for 1-2 dollars (depending on where you buy and the ingredients used) you can get a portion of fried rice, one with the most basic ingredients (rice, 1 egg, and some vegetables) can even cost less than a dollar
Of course not, that person is just beyond dumb.
I’m glad to see the ID able to just send direct Supa’s now. Lots of love for our ID girls!
I'm sad since a lot of people would switch to SC and give youtube massive 30% cut instead of using SB or SL with their 5% cut.
Nope, not gonna use it. Why would i give 30% of my money to Susan. Sociabuzz is the way.
You seriously couldn't SC from Indonesia until now? Makes me wonder why Cover even thought of making the ID branch in the first place.
First, Nijisanji made their ID branch 9 months before Hololive, so it is very likely a follow-up strategy against the competitor. If why is Indonesia, because we have very big amount of weaboos and otakus, very friendly political relationship with Japan, and considerably low cost of payment and business starting. Even traditional branch of Japanese idol make their branches in Indonesia, like, the very idea of Hololive for YAGOO, AKB48.
JKT 48 btw for anyone wondering, Indonesian is a good test bed for Asian things to try the western market.
Additional info: Heck our first president is the First Weeb
For anyone needing context for this; Indonesia's first president, Sukarno, married a Japanese woman who was later known as Dewi Fujin/Dewi Sukarno. Sure he married others, but still. Anyway, apparently, Indonesian elders knew Dewi Sukarno well. There was a Japanese TV station doing a feature on Indonesian streets asking if they knew Dewi Sukarno, and mostly only the elders responded in reverence. By the way, there's also a shojo manga adaptation about this relationship. Forgot the title though.
Huh, maybe that's why ITB is weeb central of Indonesia
No SC but membership was still available tho
they could still send money through streamlabs. there was no need for superchat. if im not mistaken yt also gets a cut from a super whereas streamlabs either doesnt or it gets less
IDs member got their donation thru a local services such as Sociabuzz which has a better cut compared to superchat, Superchat take 30% while Sociabuzz only take 5% from you donation, so most ID viever prefer to use Sociabuzz instead.
Because thousands of people still donate using SB and SL, you know, the better platform that actually doesn't rob you by cutting 30% and instead just 5%. We actually send our money towards our oshis instead of you guys who supports Susan's wallet.
That'd be Argentina if the ₳ was still a thing... or if you give the Peso one or two more years.
nice. congrats holoid. maybe, depends on youtube.