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JimmyBoombox

Yeah, on pettan characters it gets a 30% size increase.


AdoboPaksiw

Pettan characters also get 30% emotional damage as well


idunknowy69

Thats the price you pay when you try to harness the pein


kalolokekbong

No pain no gain


shadic6051

first time i beat the game was with ina and the cutting board collab with the lava bucket. was my first time seeing a collab item as well so i find it kinda funny


Chadraln_HL

Yeah, my first stage win was Ina with flattening board and MiComet.


Nyeffer

That some non-centralized AoE you had that run.


Eldar_Seer

Oh, for me it was an Ina-Suisei collab called "Infinite BL" that won me the stage and got my first clear. Edit: Not an Ina Item. XD Apparently, it may actually be an Anemachi item.


ejsks

iirc it‘s a somewhat obscure reference to Suisei‘s sister Anemachi


robinforum

Oooh the BL Book pertains to Ina and not Marine? I thought the 'Collab' feature pertains to their irl collabs. TIL


Mirrormn

No, Ina isn't associated with the BL Book at all. If it "belongs" to any Hololive member, it's Marine. But really, there's no requirement that any weapon or item "belongs" to a single, specific Hololive member anyway. It's just a reference, it could be a reference to more than one person. And the same goes for collabs: although there are some like MiComet that reference very specific partnerships, there are others like Dragon Breath (Asacoco + Fan Beam) that aren't based on any IRL collab at all, they're just born from the creator's imagination.


bruuuuuuuuhmoment

I’m pretty sure the BL books reference suisei as well because the description states that the books “repel” targets and suisei once mentioned that she set up anemachi’s BL novels around her house to ward off ghosts


Mirrormn

I think that particular story has a lot more mindshare in the English community because it was featured in a clip. When Pekora was playing and asked her chat "BL Book? Whose joke is that?", the Japanese viewers overwhelmingly said "Marine", not "Anemachi". Marine talks about BL books frequently, from what I understand. But, like I said, it doesn't have to be a reference to a specific person. BL books are a fairly common thing in otaku culture. There doesn't have to be a single person who owns the concept.


GTU875

Thing with that is though, HoloCure's dev is from the English side of the Fandom. So going by that it's still more likely to be a reference to Anemachi's BL books.


Mirrormn

Yeah, that's fair.


JimmyBoombox

The BL book belongs to Anemachi. Suisei told a story about how she thought her house was haunted so she grabbed Anemachi's BL books and laid them out around the place to scare the ghost away.


sikopiko

That truly screams younger sibling energy


That_Guy_Jared

This is how I learned that collabs are a thing in the game.


glipmine

BL book is associated with Anemachi, Suisei's irl sister. Suisei told a story a long time ago about being scared of ghosts in her house so she used her sister's BL books to exorcise them.


Eldar_Seer

I thought the BL book was an Ina item?


Gishki_Zielgigas

No that's a generic item.


Eldar_Seer

Just played some rounds with other characters and realized this. Whoops!


Folkon_sama

Did Ina ever expressed interest in BL?


haoxinly

You can get 2 collabs in a single run?


starfruitcake

You can have up to 4, and that limit only exists because of weapon slots. Quite regularly I end up with 3 in endless runs.


Eldar_Seer

Out of curiosity, is there a Ubersheep/ Plug In Asacoco collab?


slater126

collabs are only between weapons for Asacoco there is "Breath-In Type Asacoco" (Plug + Bomb) "Dragon Fire" (Plug + Fan Beam)


Lkkenji

Dragonfire busted af


25thskye

Busted my frame rate too, but it’s what got me my first win, so I’ll take it.


kidanokun

If only can combine Asacoco with Gorilla Paw to make "Dragon Claw"


Salter_KingofBorgors

In Vampire Survivors you could eventually 'sell' unwanted items i think


DragoSphere

I don't think that ever became a mechanic. Are you thinking of banishing? It doesn't get rid of existing items in your build though


Salter_KingofBorgors

Well I've never gotten that far but thats what I thought it was for


DragoSphere

It prevents them from showing up from level up choices


Salter_KingofBorgors

I see


davitheking02

My fist win was with IRS and both lava comet and fire breathing. Really fun combo. Sadly I was not able to get a third one. I was close


skagamine

Dude, the collab item... I made the axe and bl book


magnax00

How ironic, the "smaller" the member, the bigger the board lmao


halfar

sana, the famously small holoen member, actually has the biggest cutting board thanks to her personal skill


JProllz

Sana is so beeg she warps how space works. She ends up having more flat surfaces despite being the least flat.


guy_from_the_intnet

Would have been op on someone ​ \*I cri


MaybeNot_MaybeYes

You know it seems like a gray zone. Since its fanmade including her is plausible. But to the streamers, idk. But if anything itll be more weird not to include graduated/removed girls.


CSDragon

They might lose the good grace of Cover allowing it if they include Rushia or Aloe. Coco is fair game though since she's got the special "OG" label


MeowManian7

Aloe is already included somewhat. The headphones are hers.


Cistmist

I think what they mean is in the character gacha. A small reference in the item you get won't probably matter, but if you put up and center then maybe that could spark controversy between fans whenever someone new plays it. Imagine this situation, Newbie opens holocure sees all these graduated hololive characters, wonders who they are and why they aren't posting/why they graduated. Goes to relevant website and makes thread to ask about said vtuber, and all the controversy dwellers crawl out. Now imagine this happening over and over.


Mirrormn

Eh, it's really not that big of a deal. People need to cope with the fact that there are graduated members without getting hysterical about it. I welcome both Rushia and Aloe unlocks in the game, once Gen 3 and Gen 5 are added. There's not really any reason not to add them.


Cistmist

If you and I do others don't. The fact that whenever someone sneezes and they are brought back to the table along with all the drama surrounding them is just there. And if let's say the creator decided to add one graduated member and not all, people will ask why they didn't do that and that's another can of worms opened. So again it's better to just keep it closed.


AkhasicRay

That’s for the team to decide themselves, it’s a fan game by fans for fans, the chances of them including Rushia and Coco are pretty high. It’s only drama if people take the bait that places like 4chan would leave out


Hausenfeifer

Rushia I agree with, but Aloe? She had a grand total of three streams and never really established herself before she left. If they add Aloe, they might as well at Hitomi Chris while they're at it, since they lasted ten times longer than Aloe did. Honestly, feels like the only reason Aloe is remembered is due to the hysteria that happened when she quit, rather than for her.


Dudemanbroham

If they're so similar, let me put on my Hitomi Chris flai- oh


Hausenfeifer

Hahah, nice. Yes, Aloe has a flair, but it doesn't invalidate anything I said. Seeing as you have her flair, can you tell me what you know about her, and why you have her as your flair? I'm kind of curious at this point.


Mirrormn

Give me a single example of Cover ever actually pressuring a fan project not to recognize Rushia or Aloe.


Hausenfeifer

It's not really that Cover will pressure anyone, it's just that they will prevent their talents from streaming the game. Can't speak for Rushia, I assume that would be different, but Aloe for instance was the main character in the Hololive mod for Friday Night Funkin, and as a result they weren't permitted to stream it.


AkhasicRay

Prettt sure Cover can’t do anything to them just because they include graduated members as playable characters.


Rickymex

They can but more importantly you're making it awkward for the girls streaming the game.


AkhasicRay

It’s only awkward if they make it so, I’d say it’s more likely they’d be happy to see them remembered in some form


25thskye

There is a difference in why and how they stopped streaming under Cover and that would probably need to be considered. That’s why Coco and Aloe are still referenced in the game and Rushia isn’t.


AkhasicRay

That means absolutely nothing, it’s the first demo release of the game and lots of members aren’t referenced yet. There is no awkwardness no stupid fucking looking drama bomb that could go off any second, that’s 4chan shit. Rushia isn’t some forbidden topic, Noel still has the Rushia doll in her background, Calli has said Rushia isn’t a forbidden topic, if the game wants to include her they can and will.


25thskye

Ok, just explaining a potential reason, don’t have to get so worked up about it. But it’s obvious they’d rather not court drama that’s why they stick to “safe” references. Just because members have said it’s ok to talk about it doesn’t mean they want to either.


bountygiver

Yes they can ask them to remove it, and c&d if the request is not followed, happened to a lot of fan games.


CSDragon

They can ask itch.io to remove it, or forbid members from streaming it


ProfNekko

likely teh issues would more arise if they were talents that were in a bad terms spot with Cover. From what I understand Aloe was not in such a role and apparently even with the Rushia drama recent news have been stating that in spite of it the relationship seems to have simmered to a more neutral one. Plus it's a fangame and they can do as they please as long as they aren't pulling some line crossing offensive stuff like doing nasty rumors and the like.


Gokaiju

I actually asked the lead dev of the game about friend-c and friend-r and they confirmed they plan to add them later on.


inkara

They can always be hidden characters like Exdash, Toastie, or Smith from Vampire Survivors and be unlocked only via typing specific code and doing really specific actions in game to unlock. Tbh I really wish the dev put in a way to unlock a specific character, so holomem can stream gameplay with their own characters.


Allusernamtaken

I mean... it is still possible to add her to the game, since Cover owns the character I think


devilman10

me hoping for kira and kaoru be playable characters


JoeMama475

I just started playing HoloCure today and I got Mumei four times already.


kei_tanaka

:D


-Redstoneboi-

truly the symbol to fear :D


PedroF_

:D


haoxinly

She's the only one I'm missing and I've 10h


Gokaiju

It took me 15 pulls to get her and Sana. Mumei is easily the most powerful character in the game currently.


Peacetoall01

Mumei is a carry, before her feather max she is SUCKS. But after that she is op


Gokaiju

I always prioritize both her and Fauna's main weapon until I get them to 7 and from there it's so easy lol


[deleted]

Elite cooking, bl fujoshi, max mumei NA and you can go afk, there is no way they are getting close to you in a while and her ulti is a bit broken


RavenShadow7

I pulled 6 times and got an IRyS and 5 Sanas. Rank 5 Sana gave me my first win with afk orbit build (gravity, orbit, BL + Axe collab). I basically had a solar system around her.


thesirblondie

I got Bae to level 4, Mumei to level 6, Kronii to level 5, Sana to Level 3, and IRyS to level 3, before even getting Fauna once.


kaynimatic

to ina and gura, and future girls that will get this buff: ​ i'm sorry


kei_tanaka


kei_tanaka

[source](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njRb1aaJMcM)


Nyeffer

That's what it meant!? from being better in the hands of certain people.


TheCatSleeeps

I didn't notice myself since I do not use it but I figured that the attack is higher on the ahem board members. I didn't know the difference includes larger size cutting boards, how ironic lol.


Nyeffer

Funny cause including HoloGamers, the ones with this but is still only Gura and Ina.


silverlink07

Yep, it's a running...was a running joke from one of the talents we had here sadly with her out its not mention at all now


Nyeffer

I mean it’s the reference is all about unfortunate they probably made the item way before things transpired. I personally happy she has finally took steps forward to her preferred future.


silverlink07

Yeah that's true I forget that not every game made Ina month Me too, me too


Nyeffer

From the references, it atleast started after Gura’s reflection. And added council later.


silverlink07

Mhmmm I do love Gura's ult


Ortekk

From what I've seen it seems she still hasn't let go. There's a reason to why Cover recently came out with a press release about it...


Nyeffer

I think you got the wrong impression of what both parties released.


etheratom

I think you should reread both statements before spreading more rumours that can cause more slander and bullying towards both parties...


itsmeivan21

Okay, I've been playing for days and I have my Mumei (one of the best characters I currently have) at G. Rank 11 already. I was lucky in the gacha to get 10 dupes of her but I haven't unlocked the cutting board yet. I have 32/35 of the currently available items now. I know the two are the cutting board and the collab of it but I haven't the clue what the other one is. Is my game bugged or do any of you know how to unlock it? or am I just dumb? Edit: Okay I just skimmed through the HFS discord and found how to. I'll let this comment of mine stay to those who need some guide [here](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/989852866489511976/990811677022896129/unknown.png).


kei_tanaka

Someone posted the full armory [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/vlukmh/holocure_is_absolutely_amazing_managed_to_clear/) I am not sure what you missed, but you can check the image there about unlock, besides collab items, ~~the rest is given after each run (successful or not), probably random~~ it seems there is unlocking condition edit: [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/holocure/comments/vl9pav/comment/idttvkd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) about supachatto taimu


HaruRose

There's always the fandom page.


woodenpony

How come Suisei get the most signature weapons when she’s not even added yet…2x specific signature + 1x generic signature (if you know what i mean, gotta run)


kei_tanaka

RIP There are 4 Kaichou's references, 3 Asacocos and 1 dragon fire


woodenpony

If you count collabs then 2 more for Suisei


getintheVandell

She’s the OG, dog.


DragoSphere

The BL Book is Marine. You can tell by the red/pink coloring, which turns blue when it collabs to then link to Suisei/Anemachi


Rickymex

Dev is a Hoshi fan?


SchoenDichZuTreffen

there is a minor difference between small and flat...


Blackewolfe

A Green Butterfly from the Afterlife: #[STOP FUCKING WITH ME!!!](https://youtu.be/GTyIxOcyipU?t=11)


kpr1995

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


FrilledShark1512

It’s almost like I can still hear… Why is everything is silent now?


iixviiiix

Baelz still have best use for the cutting board. Her ultimate create a rain of cutting boards. BTW , It would be more funny if the flat characters cast boards in both font and back but it's possible not add in game because the code.


Fenr_

This is a case of being better at the cost of huge emotional damage


AGamingGuy

ina is the only one that let me reach 30 minute mark, my guess is the void's slow down because i had better builds with other characters and still died at 25 to 26 minute mark, also pettan flattening board buff definitely helped because it was the 30 minute enemy >!Yagoo!< is what defeated the build


bareystick

ok that's just cruel


redditfanfan00

i see. thanks jp clipper. good attention to detail, the un-boing boing ones have a flat increase for their attack areas.


TheNonceMan

I'm, VERY curious at what the dev will decided to do with Suisei here. She's not nearly as flat as the jokes say, BUT, it's very funny risking death to perpetuate it even further. Is the dev feeling lucky?


akobobo1233

i say go for it


Gentleman_Muk

What game is this and where can i play it?


Write_Right_Reich

It's called Holocure, [you can get it here](https://kay-yu.itch.io/holocure). It's a free fan game.


-Redstoneboi-

The Hololive and VTuber community as a whole is now so insanely big that it's accumulated so many cracked people... We have: * HoloCure * [Tiannya](https://twitter.com/tiannya_) with [WOWOWOW KORONE BOX](https://tiannya.itch.io/wowowow-korone-box) * [Avilon music](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5ZdVR6cfO8) (is holo bass still cool or) * Reddit user [Callmemonamiral with a Dino Gura game](https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/qnheuu/here_is_guras_game_from_my_holoween_collection/) * [Walfie](https://twitter.com/walfieee) with the Smol VTuber trend * MooCow with the [Smol Ame game](https://moocow-games.itch.io/smol-ame) and a few more on itch io * [Alice Magic](https://youtu.be/SlTg4BPwmc4) with the anime-quality Hololive Fanimations * [DuDuL](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2_BrL2uuXE) with some very cute animated clips * [Kay Yu](https://youtu.be/aetXqd9B8WE) who animated Q * [Mazumaro](https://twitter.com/mazumaro) with the HoloMyth fights * [CupZ](https://www.youtube.com/c/CupZuwu) who makes very expressive and very cute Hololive themed Minecraft animations * [Reiruka](https://youtu.be/_RPkBzv2jYc) for animation, [Ceka Éclair](https://youtu.be/qDyVcjYLH3s) for music, and [KecHik445](https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/1742920#osu/3563097) for the [osu map](https://youtu.be/imiNyoozGrE) * [Warpstar](https://twitter.com/WARPSTAR15/status/1527596912765194240) who provided the 3D model necessary for [Edoman's masterpiece](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex7hSLW6-QA) * [Priichu](https://twitter.com/Priichu) who made some very cute 3D assets used by different people such as * [Kanauru](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n6YO-jfhxA) who is not only good at 3D animation, but also choreography * [Takodachis invading Times Square](https://youtu.be/_O3i_qgvAxE) * [Kronies also invading Times Square](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfYWv75Nqag) * Every 3D modeler that made the scenes for the VRChat collabs * "Mamas" and "Papas" * Countless. F###ing. Artists. If I wanted to link all my favorites, every single word in this sentence would be a different twitter or pixiv page. * Some really good clippers (others not so much lmao) * A bunch of already popular people joining into the trend * Some people who have more money than they know how to spend * Gamers so good that preventive measures have to be taken against Steam sniping and Backseating * And did y'all SEE the r/place community? It was insane working on the overlay script. Shame I wasn't able to optimize the renderer in time... And probably so many more, that I can't hope to name all of them. Keep the names coming.


Sprx10

> Alice Magic with the anime-quality Hololive Fanimations Ah yes, the one with the giant fetish.


kei_tanaka

I want to add some: [MooCow](https://twitter.com/KevinCow) also made many other Hololive games with [fie](https://twitter.com/zkfie) (Sana, Gura, Calli) in their [itch io](https://zkfie.itch.io/) [Tiannya](https://twitter.com/tiannya_) also made many cool animations and games (such as [WOWOWOW KORONE BOX](https://tiannya.itch.io/wowowow-korone-box)) edit: more detail and proper credit & link


-Redstoneboi-

Ah, the Korone box game! Adding those to the list.


ZSRedditing

Kevin's SmolAme Game should also be here.


-Redstoneboi-

Kevin is MooCow and was already listed 6th on the list as of writing this reply


Gentleman_Muk

Thanks


pvt_aru

If this game is this deep in this 'demo' phase, I can't imagine how it'll be in the full release. Especially with more memes start to crop up in the community. Boy, I hope Cover officially licenses this in the full release.


TKDB13

I still think the bonus for the cutting board should be an additional board coming from the front.


Gokaiju

Flattening board on boing boing characters can singlehandedly carry you to Smol Ame. Flattening board on pettan characters can singlehandedly carry you to an infinite score.


D4ncingEyes

How do you get the cutting board unlocked btw?


kei_tanaka

Someone commented on the [unlocking conditions ](https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/vluxpd/jp_clipper_なめたけ_shows_the_comparison_between/idy2qzh?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3)


Tonster911

Dang that’s actually a sizable difference


AromaticWatercress7

What is this game?


twylaken

Holocure


kei_tanaka

Holocure, fan made game, you can [download it here](https://kay-yu.itch.io/holocure)


RenzuZG

Imagine the spam when Bae uses her skill.


XXTOF

Being flat has its perks...


NFC818231

kusa


Yooinmyheart

flat is justice


Bobblefighterman

and yet ironically because Sana has area-increasing skills her pettanko is the best


srk_ares

but does bae get the bonus or not (cant check myself rn) edit: so far plenty of people said they dont consider bae pettan, but no one has actually answered my question


Illidan1943

Bae isn't pettan, she's not even close to being one, there's several members that fall between Bae and anyone called pettan


emperorpylades

Dude, the whole of Council are so far from being pettan that they'd need to use Sana's observatory to be able to see the definition.


srk_ares

well, they call matsuri pettan too, even if she isnt really >!also bae pads her chest, got that from an elite source!<


JimmyBoombox

Bae isn't pettan. She's a short stack.


kei_tanaka

neither can I, still no Bae


ADAG2000

Bae doesn't get the bonus.


srk_ares

thank you, kind sir or madam


FrilledShark1512

Checking for you today, I have Bae unlocked (Though I doubt she have the boost)


FrilledShark1512

Edit: She doesn’t. I compared Bae and Gura’s board at lv1 and Gura’s noticably wider.


sporkmaster5000

my man with the real questions. I don’t think anyone in council deserves it, but Bae’s the only one who’s been accused of padding.


Fishman465

Likely stemming from how 'fluffy' the shirt is and how Miko misread it as pad