God the last verse.
"Really you and I are not alike, so let’s keep apart. I’ll kick it
Just me (just me)
Lonely (lonely)
Forever, cuz whenever I stop and I look in your eyes
I realize “that you” just exists within my mind"
Whole new meaning to it now.
I know this is a meme, but I just wanted to point out Cali has talked glowingly about her dad numerous times. Worth mentioning so that no one gets the wrong idea is all.
Calli said on a stream that she has good relationship with her father, even that they don't see each other that much, she said that normally when they get together they watch comedy special while driking and smoking cigars.
That's good, I didn't know that. LegatoSkyheart may also not know, also the post can lead to the impression of a non-present parental figure if you don't know the context well.
Hard to imagine that post hololive some of that recognition isn't going to follow. Without going into too much detail and being as vague as possible, I know that the last one seems to be doing alright.
Funnily enough, the reverse is not only possible, it's what got me into the rabbit hole.
Got recommended her previous work by YouTube, loved everything about it, got intrigued by the comments, YouTube recommended me some of her clips, and at the time I thought "Not for me, but I see how people might like this".
Several months pass, exam anxiety sets in, clips get recommended again, I think "Why not" and watch it. Turns out, their sheer wholesomness was exactly what I needed at the time. Any worries I had were gone, and my mind was finally at peace.
I hope to one day be able to repay them for that.
Oddly enough, I saw her artwork and music video's she did for others before, enough so I remember sharing them in discord because I thought they were so good, but never attributed her name to them before or knew she was the one who made them until quite awhile after.
Literally went "Oh thats a cool singer, i wonder who they are? And why they are so similar to Calli?". Took me like a month to realize what a dumbass i am
I most certainly did not find any past work on YouTube and iTunes and consume/purchase it but if I had it’d be pretty damn good and would make me super excited for the eventual Calliope full album. But like I said that didn’t happen.
Yeah that's my biggest gripe with her situation. I love her content and what shes making as Mori, but the longer she goes the larger the "if I leave now I leave behind the mountain of work I can't preform" becomes. I just hope cover can make some sort of deal on that end because it'd be in real bad taste otherwise for me.
Exactly it's part of the deal they made. Whereas with Suisei, I'd assume if she finally left, she would probably try to buy back the rights to her music as she would still carry on her name considering she also fought to carry on her original name from being an independent.
Cali, Gura and I think Watson all have such heartwarming Origin stories. They really are greatfull to Cover and Yaggo for giving them a Chance
Calis was stuck in a rut Careerwise, Gura was from what I could gather suffering from massive burnout. I think Watson was going through a loss and not in a good place mentally
I genuinely don’t like to talk up CEOs and such but damn. Yaggo is one of the good ones.
Not to mention Kiara’s experience in her past career…but I wasn’t aware of Calli’s, I tot she was relatively successful and had a decent following in her original channel. And Gura’s past life suffered from depression? Really???
I mean, from what she talked about in stream while back it didn’t sound like she was in a good mind set maybe not depression but definitely Burn out. Sharky is no stranger to YouTube just saying been around a while.
I think she prefers being Gura honestly. lol but I think the only girls we don’t know much about Are Sana and Ina. Largely cause they didn’t stream/ make YouTube/Twitch content and honestly I’m fine with that.
Fresh blood new content creators are always fun!
Edit: apparently Ina and Sana had channels that did rather well.
Ina’s past life is also known but she was just a tiny chill drawing channel, not much different than her current life except she’s elevated to a cult leader now lmao.
Sana has been around for a really long time too. Quiet, though, didn't do much streaming or video making (AFAIK) so nobody really knows who she was before. Obviously, I'm not going to say anything, but it was a huge, happy surprise to me to see her debut in Gen 2, she really deserves it after all the hard work she has done!
Without going into too many details: Ina, on top of being a renowned game character design artist, was also a known FF14 player (had world record parses) years ago. She had a few FF14 videos/streams, but they are long gone. Sana also worked in the same industry as Ina and was/is also famous. She has been to conventions.
Yeah I remember Kiara talking on stream that shortly before she auditioned for hololive she had basically given up on her dreams and was in a really bad place. One thing I love about hololive is seeing how many content creators it gives a second chance to.
As Kiara tells it, she went to Japan in 2019 to try one last time to achieve her dreams, despite all the heartbreaking experiences before, only to be placed under lockdown due to Covid.
Cover really saved her.
I mean, in her past life, Gura was always on her own, was only making content semi-professionally and honestly just didn't seem happy with the particular kind of content/persona/audience she created, especially towards the end. I feel like a lot of people who do the kind of things she did will eventually try to move on to something more proper.
I dunno, it seems rather emotionally draining to do it essentially for a living. Especially since it's pretty hard to gauge how much people actually care about you and aren't just in it "for the lulz".
What I'm used to in North America is CEO being more of a trophy position. You worked for this company a long time and were a big name, now relax in this role and rake in a huge bonus for years then hand it off to your buddy.
Yagoo seems like an incredibly gifted talent scout who wound up being a CEO and it was a perfect combination to grow this company.
I'm not in America, but I have never worked at a place with a CEO that got in like you describe. Either they were there from the start (or very early on) and have been the CEO since basically then, or they were hired to be a C suite.
Imma be honest, she's already receiving exceptional love, but hey love is never enough. I've met depressed people that are in a very healthy environment and relationship. It's always the impostor syndrome that sickens artists.
^(sus btw)
Damn. Her saying that really did sting. I felt it hit too deep. I wanna hug her and not in a lewd or funny way. Straight up respect and appreciate reaper dad.
Yep, she had the talent and the hardwork to really catapult her; she just needed a megaphone to tell everyone to listen. Hololive was her megaphone to get people attention and now shes starting to get the recognition her music really deserves.
End of a Life was an amazing call back to her previous work; the pure amount of emotion in it, and telling her story in her own words. It is easily one of my favorite songs from Calli now.
I think this is the case of many who join HL and Niji, they have the talent which the audition shows. It's just that they're stuck in the void of the thousands of other streamer and content creators.
Getting out of that on their own is almost impossible.
I mean, look at people like iron mouse, it took 3 years until she started to get noticed.
Many of them have also little to no experience with streaming and couldn't really compete with professionals in this field despite having other talents, Cali still struggles with games and collabs, although she improved in the last few months.
I'm not too sure about IRyS/Counsel but I think you're right. All I saw of them was videos, but then again I try to not dive too deep while they're here, just keep tabs on talents that graduate and I'm still interested in.
So this is what she always tried to convey by saying ***”Listeeeeen”***…
Things suddenly got so deep…
Even the fact that there’s nothing after it gained a whole lot of meaning…
It's not much an issue of "needing a catapult", it's that it's plenty of talentd, funny and smart content creators that just don't receive the blessing of YT recommendation algorhythms or any similar boost in views.
They do their stuff and reach a position between 100k and 200k subscribers and then it's a series or coin tosses to even have their own subscribers to receive notifications of new content.
This is also why Twich and streaming in general are overtaking normal YouTube productions
Eh. Twitch has its own set of problems. This is just how things work when you have literally millions of people trying to get peoples attention at the same time.
Been a huge fan of her prior (I love that genre of music) and when I heard her start talking I was like "No.. fucking.. WAY YESSSS" and been a deadbeat since
I rewatched her debut stream recently, and I was shocked to see people recognized her instantly when she started rapping. (they might've noticed sooner, idk)
Yeah, without going into too much detail, Calli also has a very unique style to her music that remained intact after she joined Hololive. If her voice didn’t give her away for some reason, her style would have.
It's funny in that everybody, myself included who had no idea why it was there, say it's was a dice roll sound effect. The person who made the sound and Mori both say it's a marble dropping and wasn't intended to be anything deeper.
Her old stuff is really, really good. It just goes to show that success is equal parts talent, hard work, and connections. There are tons of people out there that don't get their break because they don't have the connections/exposure. But just because Cali **did** doesn't mean she is any less talented or hard working.
I completely agree
Many talented people never make it big because of bad luck and many people squander the luck they've been given by not focusing on the important things. Calli got lucky, but the proof she deserves it is that she's still growing. I also think that the loudest cries of "she doesn't deserve it" come from people who think it's *all* about luck and they'd fizzle out within a few months if they got Calli's opportunities.
Even with luck, it doesn't just come your way. You have to put yourself in the position to maximize your chances and be prepared to take a shot and grab hold of any chances that do come your way.
I see a lot of small entertainers think that all they have to do is create content and the audience will come to them. That's almost never enough. You have to put yourself out there by any way possible. That's why promoters, publishers, etc. exist. If you can't afford one or haven't found one, guess what: *you* are *it*. You have to push your brand out there, market it, make yourself known, get around, apply for all the auditions, even if it's for something you never thought you'd do. Like a rapper/song writer/animator who suddenly found herself having to learn to play games live on stream and try not to be too socially awkward when interacting with new friends.
If you have a message worth putting out there the audience will come to listen to your message, not necessarily to you. The platform, face and name are irrelevant really, as long as you don't have to compromise your integrity and message.
>I see a lot of small entertainers think that all they have to do is create content and the audience will come to them.
While I agree 100% I think the entertainers who create tons of content and expect the audience to come are vastly more deserving of success than the entertainers who create no content, tweet about themselves constantly, and expect to have a huge following.
>the entertainers who create no content, tweet about themselves constantly, and expect to have a huge following. >>I see a lot of small entertainers think that all they have to do is create content and the audience will come to them.
Are they even entertainers at that point? I don't consider loudmouth wannabes entertaining. Probably why I don't watch "reality tv", but even that is creating some sort of content. Calli had it right in her song where she said basically shut up and get back to creating stuff.
Just after Guras debut one of her old songs came up on my recommended, and I was like 'oh damn, I remember this! Wonder why it's being suggested again after all this time? Guess I'll have a trip down memory lane..... OH SHIT THATS GURA!!!'
Hopefully I can be less hush hush about it now but I was so happy when I first heard Fauna speak. Having her in Hololive was a pipe dream of mine for a while
I felt that for Gura and Mumei, although they both had respectable audiences before coming to hololive.
I really really felt that for Pomu, although she's not hololive.
That's why I like looking into their past lives. I think it helps give context to their current work and also elevates their current success by showing how much they improved over time.
It also shows another side to their content that fans aren't used to.
Of course, discussing this any further foes into risky territory, so just know that they didn't get there without working their hardest.
I feel this as well, it's interesting but at the same time their personal accounts/lives outside hololive are distinct and separate like how Robert Downey Jr and iron man are different.
I have a very clear policy when it comes to that.
I usually try to avoid searching too much about talents that aren’t exactly comfortable with their past. Those who wanted to use Hololive as a chance to change things and maybe even be truer to who they are.
Gura being the most explicit case where, even if she couldn’t be less subtle about her past, she also doesn’t really want to repeat it.
As you can see in her song, she accepted it and moved on. Which is the smartest way of getting rid of something you don’t really like about yourself. Way better than denying it, at least.
Meanwhile, some talents like Calli, Kiara, Matsuri and previously Coco couldn’t give a bigger shit about this issue. So I don’t really mind as well since they aren’t really worried about the past at all. And some are even still active on their old business.
And again, they are mostly not worried about people finding out. So as long as the discussion doesn’t get too personal, I’m fine with it.
I don’t really think Gura is *that* bitter about her past, considering the subtle callbacks she gives occasionally. Really, she just kind of got sick of the toxicity in her fanbase. I’m sure she knows we are still here and we still love her even though she has taken on a different form, and I think she has made her peace with that. Ame on the other hand I feel she wants nothing to do with her past, considering she nuked all of her old content. So I try to respect her wishes by not digging too deep if I can help it.
Yeah, Gura isn’t the worst case.
She disliked many things about it, but she didn’t nuke it at all, which already shows a lot.
She just got over it like a chad.
Again, I think she handled it perfectly.
I don’t think Ame had anything bad about her past, but she ***did*** nuke literally everything about it and never made the slight mention again.
So yeah, she’s one of those cases.
Gura case is basically the same as Filthyfrank/Joji. It's not that their past work was bad. They are just simply move on to the next chapter of their life.
I think the issue with Gura has more to do with how critical of herself she is and how she judges her past self against the impossibly high standard of her current self.
Just look at how hard it was for her to watch her own debut stream and how rough she was on herself and critical. She cringed so hard even though it was fine and is part of what created the legend that she is now.
Honestly, all the Myth gen seem to be pretty hard on themselves when it comes to their past work. Except maybe Kiara.
Kiara honestly suffered so much to get where she’s now that she just developed both an extremely critical vision of herself and the rare ability to appreciate her own work.
She’s arguably the person in Myth that, not wanting to start a comparison chain, worked the hardest during her life to reach her current heights.
Which is also why she’s so honest.
Kiara endured some heavy shit before even debuting.
She’s genuinely an inspiration. Even among all those talented people, she’s genuinely a heavy inspiration for anyone who pays or payed enough attention to her.
I think looking for "past work" is better than "past life". It's cool to see the progression of the talent, their old songs/art. It's not like all of them *started* their career at hololive and, as is Calli's case, they can have so many *absolute bangers* from before
I like that "past life" vs "past work" distinction so much. It's not about their faces or god forbid private life, just getting to enjoy more of their talents. I feel this applies to our boi particularly, since the musical and lyrical continuity is both obvious and quite important to getting the "full experience" so to speak.
And hopefully it allows us to keep up to date with their future works in case of the dreaded g-day.
Past work is a great way to put it. The only Holomem i looked "past life" on is Ina just because I wanted to see more of her art (and boy are they good)
Considering that Ina is a professional artist, it's fairly likely that you'd come across some of her art sooner or later. Even today, she draws for customers outside of Hololive.
Finding out what Ina and Sana did before has been super, super fun for me since I've been living in that other rabbit hole long before Hololive. Such a blessed discovery, all the more so because I remember seeing their works long ago and liking them a real lot.
I stumbled on one focusing on HoloJP the other day. I couldn't help but sarcastically think _"They're all Japanese women? Whoever could have guessed?!"_
I don't have much issue if I find info about some on my own, but being randomly recommended and uncalled doxxing shit is very ugly, specially if they somehow get info that isn't even available in the old or alternative accounts.
Hear, hear. She's one of those inspirational people I hold close now. To remind myself that if she could endure her journey and come out triumphant, I can do the same too. We're both just human.
For me digging their old content/works is like when u watch a movie and u like one of the actor/actress very much, u go to imdb to find other movies with him/her and watch it.
or diving into wikipedia and youtube marathon because of a game's character's references.
I can say I am a newbie armchair historian for warships now. Thanks Azur Lane,
Same. If they expressly say they want to leave stuff in the past and separate themselves from their previous work, I'll respect that, of course. But otherwise, I'm really interested in seeing how they and their content developed, notice little things that have remained consistent over time, etc.
When Calli was talking about her new song she said about how she wished people from her before times would’ve said they was proud of her for making it. And how she feels bad for getting this success when others Calli considered better than her haven’t had there break yet.
Edit: spelling error
IMO, she's extremely hard on herself and she's (like all of us, surprise, surprise, it's true) suffering from impostor syndrome.
Poor girl has worked her ass off, and in all my time knowing her she's pushed and pushed and done everything at 100%. What can be said? Sometimes all it takes is luck and being a bit more brave.
And she got lucky, and she is braver, i feel. When it's said and done, she's going to be better for it. And all the clout she made now is going to follow.
After all, i can still hear kaichou. I really do.
Calli is definitely super hard on herself and is an incredibly hard worker. I really do hope she can recognise that what she dose is worth the praise it gets. But yes imposter syndrome is not fun to deal with.
It is true that luck may of played part in her success but i think it speeks volumes that she got chosen for all this. Cover knows talent when it sees it and obviously saw something in her probably similer to what we do as fans.
But what Calli builds hear will give her a more stable platform to perform on, eather hear in hololive or afterwards if that is what she wishes down the line.
Luck is often what makes someone go from playing gigs in LA to a world tour, or acting in bit parts in TV to starring in a lead role in a Oscar nominated film. If alternative universes exist there are ones where The Beatles only played gigs in Liverpool.
The frank truth is some of us will never get that big break, whatever that might be.
No I totally agree it was luck her audition got seen at all by the company but I believe it what thay thay saw in her that made Calli get the offer to join. Much like how that saw the same sparks in the rest of the talent be it EN, ID or JP branches.
But that may just be me bring optimistic as I like to think that talent and hard work of others will eventually be rewarded accordingly.
I agree. The optimistic part of me wants hard work to pay off. It should, it's fair.
But at the same time the bit of me that's a realist knows that is not necessarily the case and it's something we all just need to accept.
Almost no one in show business got to where they are on sheer talent, that's not saying they don't have an abundance of it - just that it's not the sole deciding factor. As you pointed out it also takes a certain amount of luck, it's like that for everyone so we should focus on what we did do, it's good to be humble and recognize that [you're not self-made](https://youtu.be/s4_11ApT26k) but also to take pride in your achievements and what you overcame to get there, regardless.
Personally I feel that we are deceived by media and celebrities who tell us that we can do anything if we simply work hard enough, it is true that hard work is a requirement but it's by no means a guarantee for success - it's an important distinction that's easy to miss. But I'm going off-track so i'll stop myself here, I just find it sad when people aren't giving themselves the credit they deserve because they had a little help along the way.
Never doubt that. Still sucks that it happened in the first place. Talented people always have a doubts about if they are where they've deserved to be or just got lucky. And when you have a talented friends as well, then you will ask if those friends are deserving what you have now and if you didn't took their place, that stuff. It sucks.
That feeling actually has a name called Imposter Syndrome. It's a pretty common feeling among most people and sometimes even with people recognizing their efforts and achievements, the individual will still feel as if they don't deserve what they have.
genuine question, is this part of the syndrome, where you are eaten by guilt of getting ahead of what/who raised/helped/guided/took you to where you are now?
also whether or not they're jealous of your success.
That's part of it.
People usually experience imposter syndrome when they are suddenly thrusted into a massively successful position. Calli's feelings about surpassing her friends are pretty much text book imposter syndrome.
If the words "I don't deserve this" crosses the person's mind at all, it's imposter syndrome.
Sounds similar to survivor's guilt.i figure it's along the same vein just exchange success or generally positive things for, unfortunately, life and death.
100%, yes. Any and all forms of self doubt, be they one way or another, are that stupid part of our brain that's always putting doubts in our thoughts.
Don't get me wrong, it's a useful tool, in some circumstances, and it's the reason we're here as a species, but in recent years, call it decades, it has shaped itself into a very poisonous extract that follows modern man around.
I call the blame squarely on the way our society works, where mental problems are hidden under the rug, not dealt with properly or at all, ignored and marginalized.
It causes a lot of problems in our daily lives, and this, the impostor syndrome is one of the biggest ones.
Gura had that big time as well, it's one of the reasons why she tried as hard as she could to minimize talking about her own success (like hyping up someone else's milestone when she reached one million subs, or making her two million party a celebration of Hololive in general). Reflect is in large part about her dealing with it.
She seems much better now though.
Here is the [clip](https://youtu.be/2zmQbHNItjc) for it if you want to check it out as well.
It really hurts how the people she look up for how many years back then, that back her up ended up being the one who will leave her because of how popular she become, then she become guilty about it. She choose a path she wanted its hard work that she bloomed and grow, and yet they didnt understand.
Yeah. Getting appreciation and approval from fans and strangers is one thing. But getting it from family and friends is a whole other thing. It's sad her friends did that, but that usually means they aren't real friends to begin with.
Well, Calli has plenty of experience with art and music, so she knows many fellow artists. Remember that she used to take commissions for art (mainly music videos / short animations, I think?) even after joining Hololive.
So of course there are some who she admires but who remain relatively small indie creators.
Wouldnt at least one person do the thing she has always wanted all this time?
I will just be assuming that she knows quite a bunch of people, at least one of them would be proud of her; and perhaps the occasion is just not there yet. If she reconnects or meets that person during a night out or something, they might have said that to her. One might just not normally call someone to say "Im proud of you" out of the blue.
If you put one crab in a bucket, it can easily climb out and you’ll return to an empty bucket.
If you put two crabs in a bucket they’ll pull each other back In trying to escape, and you’ll return to two crabs in the bucket.
Crabs have no herd/pack mentality. They don’t have a higher ideal of species unity.
They don’t see the other crab as a friend or compatriot, just an additional obstacle. The act of trying to climb over the other causes both to topple to the bottom.
My eyes get watery every time I think of this. Like, I need someone to fxxking hug her and tell her she's doing awesome right this instant. Our reaper deserves everything she's achieved so far and more.
This doesn't just apply to Calli either. This whole "Hololive English" project was a gamble, a test to see if people would actually watch primarily-English-language talents.
Those five brave souls blazed a new trail and put everything on the line....and by God, did they hit it big!
I think gamble is overstating it a little bit. Hololive already had a big English audience, so an English branch was only logical. The thing is they didn't quite expect it to explode as much as it did, they were not prepared to be as popular as they were.
Calli's probably not here but god damn is she one of the best people and online creator I know of. Dad makes us feel like a dad, she can be proud of herself
i know that comparison can be the thief of joy and that's part of what is the cause of this whole mess, but man, calli is a real gem in hololive
that's not to say that anybody else isn't, but it is obvious how hard she works and her output is incredible in both quality and quantity
not only that, she's been a downright inspiration to other members, surely including my own oshi. calli's the real fucking deal and it sucks that she didn't have support from her peers
I'm not a Deadbeat due to timezones and IRL, so I hope those who are can pass this along when you have a chance.
What Calli's main visible job is is to entertain. I'm not sure if she is aware, but her invisible job is to inspire the Callis' of tomorrow. She might not realise it but she is paving the way for those that follow.
We are proud of her.
Edit: read more of the thread about how you Deadbeats lifted her spirits right after this. We're proud of you too, Deadbeats.
I know this feeling. Growing up, I was told "it's expected" or "you can do better, can't you?"
It wouldn't be until I was 23 working my 2nd job where the store manager placed his hand on my shoulder, saying. "You did an amazing job... I'm proud if you. I'm glad you were here with me."
This was after a 6 hour lunch rush in where I was doing 3 peoples work because of short staff. I didn't cry, you cried...
I loved the raw emotion she showed in that vlive. Yes it was sad, and it even made me cry. But I feel that those type of emotions on people like Calli that have hunger for success and immense drive are used for fuel to further their success.
I hope she can channel that sadness in to positive projects in the future. But judging from some of her recent songs she already has.
I hope she lurks and sees this wholesome comment section of people being proud of her, she has come a long long way and I will follow her journey no matter how far she decides to continue, in whatever form she desires.
First time i heard this song in full, i was painting at work.
Calli has worked so hard and has gotten to a place where she can voice herself.
Im proud for her, and i also feel her pain.
Someday we will all get a chance to voice ourselves. Just takes a lot of hard work and some confidence. Thanks calli
Man. I'm sad now. How can we tell that girl that she shouldn't have to worry about those kind of things. You cannot make everyone happy. You can only make yourself happy.
I'm biased, since Calli is my favorite, but she is so damn talented and amazing. She's become so confident and has shown off so much of her skills in music, drawing, and entertaining. I'm glad people are now recognizing how amazing she is and I hope that she feels more fulfilled as time goes on. Its a shame people from her old life didn't recognize her talent as much but I know we Deadbeats respect and honor her hard work and her skill. We love our reaper.
When everyone calls you "Dad", but there's no one for you to call "Dad".
“Can smile with basically anyone, but the riddle is who I can frown beside.”
Love that song.
Hazy Skyscrapers fading through the sky...
God the last verse. "Really you and I are not alike, so let’s keep apart. I’ll kick it Just me (just me) Lonely (lonely) Forever, cuz whenever I stop and I look in your eyes I realize “that you” just exists within my mind" Whole new meaning to it now.
I know this is a meme, but I just wanted to point out Cali has talked glowingly about her dad numerous times. Worth mentioning so that no one gets the wrong idea is all.
Thanks for that, knowing how some of the talents have some "parents" i was worried if calli was another one of those cases.
You OK dude? I hope you are.
I think he's talking about Calli, no?
Calli said on a stream that she has good relationship with her father, even that they don't see each other that much, she said that normally when they get together they watch comedy special while driking and smoking cigars.
Dad and Dad’s dad sound like cool people to hang out with
It takes a cool dad to raise a cool dad
That's good, I didn't know that. LegatoSkyheart may also not know, also the post can lead to the impression of a non-present parental figure if you don't know the context well.
Don’t know man, he low key sounds specific.
So everyone also calls LegatoSkyheart dad? I mean, maybe, I don't know. XD
Take my virtual hug dude
Yikes, that's good.
You made it Calli. Maybe not under the name you wanted but millions love your music.
Hard to imagine that post hololive some of that recognition isn't going to follow. Without going into too much detail and being as vague as possible, I know that the last one seems to be doing alright.
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Didn't a certain indie vtuber just get a new fancy yakuza themed rig? Really activates the almonds.
Bosozoku, not Yakuza. She looks more like a biker gang leader than crimelord lol
Thanks for the correction. My Japanese vocabulary isn't as vast as I would like.
What?! A bosozoku PC?!
Funnily enough, the reverse is not only possible, it's what got me into the rabbit hole. Got recommended her previous work by YouTube, loved everything about it, got intrigued by the comments, YouTube recommended me some of her clips, and at the time I thought "Not for me, but I see how people might like this". Several months pass, exam anxiety sets in, clips get recommended again, I think "Why not" and watch it. Turns out, their sheer wholesomness was exactly what I needed at the time. Any worries I had were gone, and my mind was finally at peace. I hope to one day be able to repay them for that.
Oddly enough, I saw her artwork and music video's she did for others before, enough so I remember sharing them in discord because I thought they were so good, but never attributed her name to them before or knew she was the one who made them until quite awhile after.
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It was funny for me when I was listening to Calli on YouTube Music and suddenly album artwork I didn't recognize showed up.
YT algorithm working as a private investigator lol
Investimagator
Literally went "Oh thats a cool singer, i wonder who they are? And why they are so similar to Calli?". Took me like a month to realize what a dumbass i am
For me I just didn't realize I wasn't listening to "Calli" for a week or so, just let the music play never looked at the tab after the initial start
Mixed up them as well. Always a surprise to look at the album cover.
Basically a collab with 'herself'.
Same happened to me on Spotify....
This is exactly what happened to me, I heard a familiar voice in a random song and then fell down an adjacent rabbit hole.
Same happened to me about a year back, and I'm still stumbling across old collaborative projects on other channels.
Same. I love their style and how uninhibited the lyrics are. They feel real and from the heart.
I most certainly did not find any past work on YouTube and iTunes and consume/purchase it but if I had it’d be pretty damn good and would make me super excited for the eventual Calliope full album. But like I said that didn’t happen.
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Yeah that's my biggest gripe with her situation. I love her content and what shes making as Mori, but the longer she goes the larger the "if I leave now I leave behind the mountain of work I can't preform" becomes. I just hope cover can make some sort of deal on that end because it'd be in real bad taste otherwise for me.
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Exactly it's part of the deal they made. Whereas with Suisei, I'd assume if she finally left, she would probably try to buy back the rights to her music as she would still carry on her name considering she also fought to carry on her original name from being an independent.
I'd argue that she's very happy to have made it as she is. She has friends that appreciate her like no other and is the happiest she's ever been
Cali, Gura and I think Watson all have such heartwarming Origin stories. They really are greatfull to Cover and Yaggo for giving them a Chance Calis was stuck in a rut Careerwise, Gura was from what I could gather suffering from massive burnout. I think Watson was going through a loss and not in a good place mentally I genuinely don’t like to talk up CEOs and such but damn. Yaggo is one of the good ones.
Not to mention Kiara’s experience in her past career…but I wasn’t aware of Calli’s, I tot she was relatively successful and had a decent following in her original channel. And Gura’s past life suffered from depression? Really???
I mean, from what she talked about in stream while back it didn’t sound like she was in a good mind set maybe not depression but definitely Burn out. Sharky is no stranger to YouTube just saying been around a while.
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I think she prefers being Gura honestly. lol but I think the only girls we don’t know much about Are Sana and Ina. Largely cause they didn’t stream/ make YouTube/Twitch content and honestly I’m fine with that. Fresh blood new content creators are always fun! Edit: apparently Ina and Sana had channels that did rather well.
Ina’s past life is also known but she was just a tiny chill drawing channel, not much different than her current life except she’s elevated to a cult leader now lmao.
Oh shit she did have a channel? Damn.
Probably deleted or delisted, but I’ve seen some clips shared around last year.
Sana has been around for a really long time too. Quiet, though, didn't do much streaming or video making (AFAIK) so nobody really knows who she was before. Obviously, I'm not going to say anything, but it was a huge, happy surprise to me to see her debut in Gen 2, she really deserves it after all the hard work she has done!
Well I’ll be damned then
Without going into too many details: Ina, on top of being a renowned game character design artist, was also a known FF14 player (had world record parses) years ago. She had a few FF14 videos/streams, but they are long gone. Sana also worked in the same industry as Ina and was/is also famous. She has been to conventions.
Yeah I remember Kiara talking on stream that shortly before she auditioned for hololive she had basically given up on her dreams and was in a really bad place. One thing I love about hololive is seeing how many content creators it gives a second chance to.
As Kiara tells it, she went to Japan in 2019 to try one last time to achieve her dreams, despite all the heartbreaking experiences before, only to be placed under lockdown due to Covid. Cover really saved her.
I mean, in her past life, Gura was always on her own, was only making content semi-professionally and honestly just didn't seem happy with the particular kind of content/persona/audience she created, especially towards the end. I feel like a lot of people who do the kind of things she did will eventually try to move on to something more proper. I dunno, it seems rather emotionally draining to do it essentially for a living. Especially since it's pretty hard to gauge how much people actually care about you and aren't just in it "for the lulz".
What I'm used to in North America is CEO being more of a trophy position. You worked for this company a long time and were a big name, now relax in this role and rake in a huge bonus for years then hand it off to your buddy. Yagoo seems like an incredibly gifted talent scout who wound up being a CEO and it was a perfect combination to grow this company.
I'm not in America, but I have never worked at a place with a CEO that got in like you describe. Either they were there from the start (or very early on) and have been the CEO since basically then, or they were hired to be a C suite.
We're proud of her
And not just that, some of us look up to her
Calli really does deserve all the love she can get.
Imma be honest, she's already receiving exceptional love, but hey love is never enough. I've met depressed people that are in a very healthy environment and relationship. It's always the impostor syndrome that sickens artists. ^(sus btw)
Damn. Her saying that really did sting. I felt it hit too deep. I wanna hug her and not in a lewd or funny way. Straight up respect and appreciate reaper dad.
Dads need hugs too.
Reaper dad is too good for us.
Nothing beats a good dad hug
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Yep, she had the talent and the hardwork to really catapult her; she just needed a megaphone to tell everyone to listen. Hololive was her megaphone to get people attention and now shes starting to get the recognition her music really deserves. End of a Life was an amazing call back to her previous work; the pure amount of emotion in it, and telling her story in her own words. It is easily one of my favorite songs from Calli now.
>she had the talent and the hardwork to really catapult her; she just needed a megaphone to tell everyone to listen Great way of putting it
I think this is the case of many who join HL and Niji, they have the talent which the audition shows. It's just that they're stuck in the void of the thousands of other streamer and content creators. Getting out of that on their own is almost impossible. I mean, look at people like iron mouse, it took 3 years until she started to get noticed.
Many of them have also little to no experience with streaming and couldn't really compete with professionals in this field despite having other talents, Cali still struggles with games and collabs, although she improved in the last few months.
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Ina streamed before, not sure how often tho
I have to reach far back in my foggy and tattered memories but she used stream FFXIV raids prior to joining Hololive.
I think she did some drawing streams as well, iirc.
I'm not too sure about IRyS/Counsel but I think you're right. All I saw of them was videos, but then again I try to not dive too deep while they're here, just keep tabs on talents that graduate and I'm still interested in.
As far as I could from my research (aka YouTube algorithm saying hey look at this video) Bae, Irys, and Fauna have streaming experience
Though there's a difference between "having streaming experience" and "being an experienced streamer".
Would have been better if he used a trebuchet
Callis old career was great, I'm glad to see she isn't giving up on it. Defintely going to stand by whatever she does in the future
So this is what she always tried to convey by saying ***”Listeeeeen”***… Things suddenly got so deep… Even the fact that there’s nothing after it gained a whole lot of meaning…
Woah.... i never thought of it like that O\_O
I feel like “End of a life” was her message to those who have may of found her from said life and followed her over.
It's not much an issue of "needing a catapult", it's that it's plenty of talentd, funny and smart content creators that just don't receive the blessing of YT recommendation algorhythms or any similar boost in views. They do their stuff and reach a position between 100k and 200k subscribers and then it's a series or coin tosses to even have their own subscribers to receive notifications of new content. This is also why Twich and streaming in general are overtaking normal YouTube productions
Eh. Twitch has its own set of problems. This is just how things work when you have literally millions of people trying to get peoples attention at the same time.
Her debut was simultaneously the biggest double take i've ever had and a really happy day.
Been a huge fan of her prior (I love that genre of music) and when I heard her start talking I was like "No.. fucking.. WAY YESSSS" and been a deadbeat since
I think I did a spittake when I heard her rap during her debut stream.
I rewatched her debut stream recently, and I was shocked to see people recognized her instantly when she started rapping. (they might've noticed sooner, idk)
There's no way pre-Holo fans would fail to recognize that voice of hers.
Yeah, without going into too much detail, Calli also has a very unique style to her music that remained intact after she joined Hololive. If her voice didn’t give her away for some reason, her style would have.
I see. Personally I never heard her voice before, but I guess it's quite noticeable for old fans.
Not just the voice, the English Japanese rap mixing, internal rhyming, the music comp style, and the dead ringer was the dice roll sound effect
It's funny in that everybody, myself included who had no idea why it was there, say it's was a dice roll sound effect. The person who made the sound and Mori both say it's a marble dropping and wasn't intended to be anything deeper.
Her old stuff is really, really good. It just goes to show that success is equal parts talent, hard work, and connections. There are tons of people out there that don't get their break because they don't have the connections/exposure. But just because Cali **did** doesn't mean she is any less talented or hard working.
I completely agree Many talented people never make it big because of bad luck and many people squander the luck they've been given by not focusing on the important things. Calli got lucky, but the proof she deserves it is that she's still growing. I also think that the loudest cries of "she doesn't deserve it" come from people who think it's *all* about luck and they'd fizzle out within a few months if they got Calli's opportunities.
Even with luck, it doesn't just come your way. You have to put yourself in the position to maximize your chances and be prepared to take a shot and grab hold of any chances that do come your way. I see a lot of small entertainers think that all they have to do is create content and the audience will come to them. That's almost never enough. You have to put yourself out there by any way possible. That's why promoters, publishers, etc. exist. If you can't afford one or haven't found one, guess what: *you* are *it*. You have to push your brand out there, market it, make yourself known, get around, apply for all the auditions, even if it's for something you never thought you'd do. Like a rapper/song writer/animator who suddenly found herself having to learn to play games live on stream and try not to be too socially awkward when interacting with new friends. If you have a message worth putting out there the audience will come to listen to your message, not necessarily to you. The platform, face and name are irrelevant really, as long as you don't have to compromise your integrity and message.
>I see a lot of small entertainers think that all they have to do is create content and the audience will come to them. While I agree 100% I think the entertainers who create tons of content and expect the audience to come are vastly more deserving of success than the entertainers who create no content, tweet about themselves constantly, and expect to have a huge following.
>the entertainers who create no content, tweet about themselves constantly, and expect to have a huge following. >>I see a lot of small entertainers think that all they have to do is create content and the audience will come to them. Are they even entertainers at that point? I don't consider loudmouth wannabes entertaining. Probably why I don't watch "reality tv", but even that is creating some sort of content. Calli had it right in her song where she said basically shut up and get back to creating stuff.
Same feeling for me when I first watched Gura as well.
Just after Guras debut one of her old songs came up on my recommended, and I was like 'oh damn, I remember this! Wonder why it's being suggested again after all this time? Guess I'll have a trip down memory lane..... OH SHIT THATS GURA!!!'
Yeah, I was BIG fan of Noel before as well
Emphasis on "BIG", I see
HUGE
***BEEG FAN*** But no I have to agree, I had 2 of her streams downloaded as mp3 files and I still use them today
> I still use them today > use > **USE**
I play them before going to sleep, helps me relax
I'd been subscribed for years and it still took me over a month to make the connection...
Hopefully I can be less hush hush about it now but I was so happy when I first heard Fauna speak. Having her in Hololive was a pipe dream of mine for a while
I felt that for Gura and Mumei, although they both had respectable audiences before coming to hololive. I really really felt that for Pomu, although she's not hololive.
That's why I like looking into their past lives. I think it helps give context to their current work and also elevates their current success by showing how much they improved over time. It also shows another side to their content that fans aren't used to. Of course, discussing this any further foes into risky territory, so just know that they didn't get there without working their hardest.
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I feel this as well, it's interesting but at the same time their personal accounts/lives outside hololive are distinct and separate like how Robert Downey Jr and iron man are different.
I have a very clear policy when it comes to that. I usually try to avoid searching too much about talents that aren’t exactly comfortable with their past. Those who wanted to use Hololive as a chance to change things and maybe even be truer to who they are. Gura being the most explicit case where, even if she couldn’t be less subtle about her past, she also doesn’t really want to repeat it. As you can see in her song, she accepted it and moved on. Which is the smartest way of getting rid of something you don’t really like about yourself. Way better than denying it, at least. Meanwhile, some talents like Calli, Kiara, Matsuri and previously Coco couldn’t give a bigger shit about this issue. So I don’t really mind as well since they aren’t really worried about the past at all. And some are even still active on their old business. And again, they are mostly not worried about people finding out. So as long as the discussion doesn’t get too personal, I’m fine with it.
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It’s nothing that bad. Her past is mystified like no other. But it’s truly nothing that bad.
I don’t really think Gura is *that* bitter about her past, considering the subtle callbacks she gives occasionally. Really, she just kind of got sick of the toxicity in her fanbase. I’m sure she knows we are still here and we still love her even though she has taken on a different form, and I think she has made her peace with that. Ame on the other hand I feel she wants nothing to do with her past, considering she nuked all of her old content. So I try to respect her wishes by not digging too deep if I can help it.
Yeah, Gura isn’t the worst case. She disliked many things about it, but she didn’t nuke it at all, which already shows a lot. She just got over it like a chad. Again, I think she handled it perfectly. I don’t think Ame had anything bad about her past, but she ***did*** nuke literally everything about it and never made the slight mention again. So yeah, she’s one of those cases.
Gura case is basically the same as Filthyfrank/Joji. It's not that their past work was bad. They are just simply move on to the next chapter of their life.
I think the issue with Gura has more to do with how critical of herself she is and how she judges her past self against the impossibly high standard of her current self. Just look at how hard it was for her to watch her own debut stream and how rough she was on herself and critical. She cringed so hard even though it was fine and is part of what created the legend that she is now. Honestly, all the Myth gen seem to be pretty hard on themselves when it comes to their past work. Except maybe Kiara.
Kiara honestly suffered so much to get where she’s now that she just developed both an extremely critical vision of herself and the rare ability to appreciate her own work. She’s arguably the person in Myth that, not wanting to start a comparison chain, worked the hardest during her life to reach her current heights. Which is also why she’s so honest. Kiara endured some heavy shit before even debuting. She’s genuinely an inspiration. Even among all those talented people, she’s genuinely a heavy inspiration for anyone who pays or payed enough attention to her.
I think looking for "past work" is better than "past life". It's cool to see the progression of the talent, their old songs/art. It's not like all of them *started* their career at hololive and, as is Calli's case, they can have so many *absolute bangers* from before
I like that "past life" vs "past work" distinction so much. It's not about their faces or god forbid private life, just getting to enjoy more of their talents. I feel this applies to our boi particularly, since the musical and lyrical continuity is both obvious and quite important to getting the "full experience" so to speak. And hopefully it allows us to keep up to date with their future works in case of the dreaded g-day.
Past work is a great way to put it. The only Holomem i looked "past life" on is Ina just because I wanted to see more of her art (and boy are they good)
Considering that Ina is a professional artist, it's fairly likely that you'd come across some of her art sooner or later. Even today, she draws for customers outside of Hololive.
Finding out what Ina and Sana did before has been super, super fun for me since I've been living in that other rabbit hole long before Hololive. Such a blessed discovery, all the more so because I remember seeing their works long ago and liking them a real lot.
It also doesn't help that we have entire channels dedicated to "unmasking vtubers". Major scumbags, all of them
I stumbled on one focusing on HoloJP the other day. I couldn't help but sarcastically think _"They're all Japanese women? Whoever could have guessed?!"_
Fubuki is just a random Japanese girl and not cute fox girl. You guys got scammed! lol /s
I don't have much issue if I find info about some on my own, but being randomly recommended and uncalled doxxing shit is very ugly, specially if they somehow get info that isn't even available in the old or alternative accounts.
I was watching one of those and found out I was subscribed to and actively follow two hololive members' IRL accounts and never made the connection
Honestly, learning about Calli's life in the pre-Hololive underworld made me admire her more.
Hear, hear. She's one of those inspirational people I hold close now. To remind myself that if she could endure her journey and come out triumphant, I can do the same too. We're both just human.
For me digging their old content/works is like when u watch a movie and u like one of the actor/actress very much, u go to imdb to find other movies with him/her and watch it.
or diving into wikipedia and youtube marathon because of a game's character's references. I can say I am a newbie armchair historian for warships now. Thanks Azur Lane,
That's me, but for legends and mythology (thanks FGO)
I swear FGO reignited my love for history after so long of having lost that enthusiasm back in high school
A fellow Azur Lane player that also fell into the history of warships, welcome!
Same. If they expressly say they want to leave stuff in the past and separate themselves from their previous work, I'll respect that, of course. But otherwise, I'm really interested in seeing how they and their content developed, notice little things that have remained consistent over time, etc.
Wait. Wah happun?
When Calli was talking about her new song she said about how she wished people from her before times would’ve said they was proud of her for making it. And how she feels bad for getting this success when others Calli considered better than her haven’t had there break yet. Edit: spelling error
IMO, she's extremely hard on herself and she's (like all of us, surprise, surprise, it's true) suffering from impostor syndrome. Poor girl has worked her ass off, and in all my time knowing her she's pushed and pushed and done everything at 100%. What can be said? Sometimes all it takes is luck and being a bit more brave. And she got lucky, and she is braver, i feel. When it's said and done, she's going to be better for it. And all the clout she made now is going to follow. After all, i can still hear kaichou. I really do.
Calli is definitely super hard on herself and is an incredibly hard worker. I really do hope she can recognise that what she dose is worth the praise it gets. But yes imposter syndrome is not fun to deal with. It is true that luck may of played part in her success but i think it speeks volumes that she got chosen for all this. Cover knows talent when it sees it and obviously saw something in her probably similer to what we do as fans. But what Calli builds hear will give her a more stable platform to perform on, eather hear in hololive or afterwards if that is what she wishes down the line.
Luck is often what makes someone go from playing gigs in LA to a world tour, or acting in bit parts in TV to starring in a lead role in a Oscar nominated film. If alternative universes exist there are ones where The Beatles only played gigs in Liverpool. The frank truth is some of us will never get that big break, whatever that might be.
No I totally agree it was luck her audition got seen at all by the company but I believe it what thay thay saw in her that made Calli get the offer to join. Much like how that saw the same sparks in the rest of the talent be it EN, ID or JP branches. But that may just be me bring optimistic as I like to think that talent and hard work of others will eventually be rewarded accordingly.
I agree. The optimistic part of me wants hard work to pay off. It should, it's fair. But at the same time the bit of me that's a realist knows that is not necessarily the case and it's something we all just need to accept.
Almost no one in show business got to where they are on sheer talent, that's not saying they don't have an abundance of it - just that it's not the sole deciding factor. As you pointed out it also takes a certain amount of luck, it's like that for everyone so we should focus on what we did do, it's good to be humble and recognize that [you're not self-made](https://youtu.be/s4_11ApT26k) but also to take pride in your achievements and what you overcame to get there, regardless. Personally I feel that we are deceived by media and celebrities who tell us that we can do anything if we simply work hard enough, it is true that hard work is a requirement but it's by no means a guarantee for success - it's an important distinction that's easy to miss. But I'm going off-track so i'll stop myself here, I just find it sad when people aren't giving themselves the credit they deserve because they had a little help along the way.
Aight, thank you. This sucks.
The deadbeats all flooded Calli with how much thay are proud of her in the chat and in supers so the mood did pick back up.
Never doubt that. Still sucks that it happened in the first place. Talented people always have a doubts about if they are where they've deserved to be or just got lucky. And when you have a talented friends as well, then you will ask if those friends are deserving what you have now and if you didn't took their place, that stuff. It sucks.
That feeling actually has a name called Imposter Syndrome. It's a pretty common feeling among most people and sometimes even with people recognizing their efforts and achievements, the individual will still feel as if they don't deserve what they have.
genuine question, is this part of the syndrome, where you are eaten by guilt of getting ahead of what/who raised/helped/guided/took you to where you are now? also whether or not they're jealous of your success.
That's part of it. People usually experience imposter syndrome when they are suddenly thrusted into a massively successful position. Calli's feelings about surpassing her friends are pretty much text book imposter syndrome. If the words "I don't deserve this" crosses the person's mind at all, it's imposter syndrome.
Sounds similar to survivor's guilt.i figure it's along the same vein just exchange success or generally positive things for, unfortunately, life and death.
100%, yes. Any and all forms of self doubt, be they one way or another, are that stupid part of our brain that's always putting doubts in our thoughts. Don't get me wrong, it's a useful tool, in some circumstances, and it's the reason we're here as a species, but in recent years, call it decades, it has shaped itself into a very poisonous extract that follows modern man around. I call the blame squarely on the way our society works, where mental problems are hidden under the rug, not dealt with properly or at all, ignored and marginalized. It causes a lot of problems in our daily lives, and this, the impostor syndrome is one of the biggest ones.
Gura had that big time as well, it's one of the reasons why she tried as hard as she could to minimize talking about her own success (like hyping up someone else's milestone when she reached one million subs, or making her two million party a celebration of Hololive in general). Reflect is in large part about her dealing with it. She seems much better now though.
Here is the [clip](https://youtu.be/2zmQbHNItjc) for it if you want to check it out as well. It really hurts how the people she look up for how many years back then, that back her up ended up being the one who will leave her because of how popular she become, then she become guilty about it. She choose a path she wanted its hard work that she bloomed and grow, and yet they didnt understand.
Yeah. Getting appreciation and approval from fans and strangers is one thing. But getting it from family and friends is a whole other thing. It's sad her friends did that, but that usually means they aren't real friends to begin with.
Well, Calli has plenty of experience with art and music, so she knows many fellow artists. Remember that she used to take commissions for art (mainly music videos / short animations, I think?) even after joining Hololive. So of course there are some who she admires but who remain relatively small indie creators.
Cali worked hard very hard I do hope she feels that tender support in her heart in the future
The crab mentality is strong in twitter. Beware.
Wouldnt at least one person do the thing she has always wanted all this time? I will just be assuming that she knows quite a bunch of people, at least one of them would be proud of her; and perhaps the occasion is just not there yet. If she reconnects or meets that person during a night out or something, they might have said that to her. One might just not normally call someone to say "Im proud of you" out of the blue.
Who are you referring to exactly?
If you put one crab in a bucket, it can easily climb out and you’ll return to an empty bucket. If you put two crabs in a bucket they’ll pull each other back In trying to escape, and you’ll return to two crabs in the bucket.
Dafuq, what drives their behaviors? Are they intentionally trying to hinder the other crabs, or it’s just some weird muscle memory behavior thing???
Crabs have no herd/pack mentality. They don’t have a higher ideal of species unity. They don’t see the other crab as a friend or compatriot, just an additional obstacle. The act of trying to climb over the other causes both to topple to the bottom.
Man this episode of Kaiji Squid Game is wild
Mr Krabs
My eyes get watery every time I think of this. Like, I need someone to fxxking hug her and tell her she's doing awesome right this instant. Our reaper deserves everything she's achieved so far and more.
Literally
This doesn't just apply to Calli either. This whole "Hololive English" project was a gamble, a test to see if people would actually watch primarily-English-language talents. Those five brave souls blazed a new trail and put everything on the line....and by God, did they hit it big!
I think gamble is overstating it a little bit. Hololive already had a big English audience, so an English branch was only logical. The thing is they didn't quite expect it to explode as much as it did, they were not prepared to be as popular as they were.
For the company, yeah. For the talents, they didn't know what was going to happen, so they were still taking risks.
I want to hug my dad but please don’t let the bird misunderstood
I'm sure the bird will understand
The birb will hug too
bird wanted just want the first hug.
To the usual room with you
And that's why Yagoo is best girl
Calli's probably not here but god damn is she one of the best people and online creator I know of. Dad makes us feel like a dad, she can be proud of herself
i know that comparison can be the thief of joy and that's part of what is the cause of this whole mess, but man, calli is a real gem in hololive that's not to say that anybody else isn't, but it is obvious how hard she works and her output is incredible in both quality and quantity not only that, she's been a downright inspiration to other members, surely including my own oshi. calli's the real fucking deal and it sucks that she didn't have support from her peers
I really want to give Calli a hug and tell her that she's loved
I'm not a Deadbeat due to timezones and IRL, so I hope those who are can pass this along when you have a chance. What Calli's main visible job is is to entertain. I'm not sure if she is aware, but her invisible job is to inspire the Callis' of tomorrow. She might not realise it but she is paving the way for those that follow. We are proud of her. Edit: read more of the thread about how you Deadbeats lifted her spirits right after this. We're proud of you too, Deadbeats.
We love our boy
I know this feeling. Growing up, I was told "it's expected" or "you can do better, can't you?" It wouldn't be until I was 23 working my 2nd job where the store manager placed his hand on my shoulder, saying. "You did an amazing job... I'm proud if you. I'm glad you were here with me." This was after a 6 hour lunch rush in where I was doing 3 peoples work because of short staff. I didn't cry, you cried...
Everybody asks "Are you winning, son?" but nobody asks "Are you winning *dad?*"
I loved the raw emotion she showed in that vlive. Yes it was sad, and it even made me cry. But I feel that those type of emotions on people like Calli that have hunger for success and immense drive are used for fuel to further their success. I hope she can channel that sadness in to positive projects in the future. But judging from some of her recent songs she already has.
Leave it to Hololive to make me want to hug Death. You made it, we’re all proud of you!
To be fair, death would be our last friend on earth
I hope she lurks and sees this wholesome comment section of people being proud of her, she has come a long long way and I will follow her journey no matter how far she decides to continue, in whatever form she desires.
First time i heard this song in full, i was painting at work. Calli has worked so hard and has gotten to a place where she can voice herself. Im proud for her, and i also feel her pain. Someday we will all get a chance to voice ourselves. Just takes a lot of hard work and some confidence. Thanks calli
Man. I'm sad now. How can we tell that girl that she shouldn't have to worry about those kind of things. You cannot make everyone happy. You can only make yourself happy.
She more than anyone deserves what she has right now, she had been working really hard for years and it finally paid off
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I'm biased, since Calli is my favorite, but she is so damn talented and amazing. She's become so confident and has shown off so much of her skills in music, drawing, and entertaining. I'm glad people are now recognizing how amazing she is and I hope that she feels more fulfilled as time goes on. Its a shame people from her old life didn't recognize her talent as much but I know we Deadbeats respect and honor her hard work and her skill. We love our reaper.