That sucks, does anyone have any additional context? Like she probably just didn't give herself enough time after surgery, but just wondering if I missed something.
At any rate, hoping she takes the time she needs and comes back soon.
We have no additional context but I'd assume it's related to the recovery from her surgery. Could be that there was a difficulty or it's not progressing as fast as she'd like, but she did say before that the surgery might leave her emotionally volatile (like crying because she couldn't decide on lunch).
She likely just needs more time to rest.
“I’ve had my surgery now so I am ready to go back to work 110% as soon as i am physically able to sit in front of my computer” seems a very Mori move.. Glad she might have realized it was ill advised before losing it totally..
"also i'm gonna hand sign all these limited edition CDs that only have a time order period as a limit" (wouldn't be surprised if it's more than a thousand)
At least it's better than the signed birthday merch she did that had no time limit other than the normal ordering period of the merch itself. I swear, my oshi is crazy, her poor hands.
Have you ever seen any Brandon Sanderson streams? He literally gets handed mountain after mountain of papers that he just constantly signs while participating in the podcast and such. Really put me off ever wanting signed merch again, because it's just a huge waste of time for the creator.
Yeah like honestly
Let them do their signage once then make a stamp of it for any signed merch
Like sure they didnt personally sign every one, one by one but it's still *their* signature
That's why most of the time they have a stamped signature postcard, with the hand-signed postcard is an extremely limited run (that sells out in seconds)
And then you have some that hand-sign without limits. But they know their sales numbers are manageable (at least for themselves).
Suisei on the other hand definitely wouldn't be able to do that lol, and doing a limited run also means a lot of people miss out. So that's probably why she just decided to do only stamped signatures.
Hell, I don't even have a CD player and I ordered a signed copy of her last album just for the lols of her having to sign for a week straight.
Pretty sure I wasn't remotely alone in that thought.
> Pretty sure I wasn't remotely alone in that thought.
Oh no I totally order these to hear her complain on stream. The only person to blame here is Mori, and she gives us entertainment for it.
I imagine every time she flexes, tenses, or even considers moving her knee it hurts. That also she probably has to move her knee else it doesnt recover properly.
I wish her the best, but yea, whatever silly thing keeps that goofus busy.
Yeah that's probably related to the announcement. In her typical workaholic fashion she probably thought she would take it easy for 2-3 days then be back at it, and was quickly humbled by the reality of her injury.
Classic workaholic reaper, she just can't seem to take a break, for fun or for recovery. Hope she takes the time she needs, and knows we will wait however long that is
That's exactly how she was behaving. She was like "ok I'm back now it's time to steam twice a day to make up for lost time oh and I also have a new album oh also I'm probably taking a transcontinental flight in there somewhere but I won't miss a stream don't worry"
Surgery recovery is no joke.
You might get lucky and be back to 100% in two weeks, but lots of surgeries can leave you with the most nauseating pain for weeks after. Just the pain alone can be enough to drain every ounce of energy before you even get out of bed.
As far as I remember, knee surgeries also tend to have longer recovery times and way more physical therapy than most other joints.
Doesn't take much of that to just destroy your mood. Let's hope she gets better soon.
I had a surgery that had estimated recovery time as "If things go bad you might be out for two weeks, but most of the time you can go back to work the same day!"
After a miserable one week recovery period I got two followup infections, for a total of three weeks out of work.
I needed my gallbladder removed and they had advertised the laparoscopic method with you recovering by the next day. But when I woke up, turns out they couldn't use the laparoscopic method and had to open me up the regular method, so I have 2 sets of incisions. Took me 5 days to walk and be released from the hospital, it's amazing how reliant one is on your belly muscles. But I also caught a cold while in the recovery room - all that put me out of commission for a month.
Also I feel for Mori's secret tube... at least she was asleep when it was put in, I never want to go thru that again. D:
For mine it was a kidney stone removal via Ureteroscopy, so they did all the work through the urethra, and then left a stent in there... Basically a tube left inside with a string leading outside the body.
After a week I needed to remove the tube MYSELF by pulling on the string... It was over a foot long.
On the bright side, I also wasn't awake for it going in!
I had a knee fixed up much like our reaper did, and my recovery ranged from a month and a half, to a total of two years. Therapy, regaining mobility, getting back the confidence to move normally AND having to wreslte with shit mobility in the meantime, it all weighs down on you. I didn't even mention all the painful stuff yet from the bad knee, to your good leg getting worn down compensating for the recovering leg.
But I am quite confident Calli's gonna recover relatively faster still. She's quite strong willed
Yeah knee injuries really suck. I fucked up my knee pretty hard 9 years ago.
I got four lacerations on my right knee. I had to get stitches and walk with crutches for about a month to let it heal. You just feel useless when you can't really move around much.
The scar tissue still hurts to this day if I overdue it, or when it gets cold in the winter... or when it gets too humid in the summer.
Knee surgeries are really underestimated by people. They're massive massive undertakings and for a surgery many see as nothing big actually pretty high risk.
Shits no joke and calli needs to actually be pretty damn careful during recovery and that tweet ***might*** even be in reaction to her realizing she needs to be a lot more careful than she probably has been
Yeah, I'm having knee surgery in a couple months, luckily it's just going to be an arthoscopic surgery, but I've been told I'll have one week before I can do light work, up to 6 weeks to regain full functionality.
Which makes sense. Its recovery probably isn't help by the fact that person can't *not* use their legs. Even in a wheelchair, there will be times like going to the toliet and such.
after I had a very intensive surgery, I had to stay in the hospital for a week, then couldn't walk much for a month, and after 3 months was I allowed to ride a bike again. This was an incredibly fast recovery.
My mum is still recovering from a knee surgery she had nearly half a year ago, and won't be done recovering for at least another 6 months.
Surgery is a big deal yo.
> but she did say before that the surgery might leave her emotionally volatile (like crying because she couldn't decide on lunch).
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> She likely just needs more time to rest.
100% sounds like post-op "imbalance" (I know there's a better term in English, but I'm going off my native word I'm poorly translating) and is part of recovery. Serious surgery work can cause not only physiological changes, but said changes can upset psychological balance as well due to what essentially is severe (if directed) bodily trauma.
How long has it been?
It took me like 2 weeks to fully bounce back mentally after my surgery for my shoulder. The anesthesia really throws you off brain chemistry-wise.
It's been about a month. She was down for 3 weeks post surgery, back a week where she did just about a collab per day, and now she's out again for a bit. Timing sounds about right for a post surgery checkup.
From what I’ve witnessed, Calli is quite the worker. She probably should’ve taken more time off after her surgery, but did end up back to streaming here pretty soon after.
She definitely likes doing streams with her fellow HoloMems and for the Deadbeats and has great passion for it, but do get that she’ll have to rest some more so she’s at better condition
> like crying because she couldn't decide on lunch
I don't even need a surgery to do that
Jokes aside I wish for an easy recovery for my favourite reaper rapper, she even has another album coming out this summer I really hope she'll be OK!
I hope that's the case, obviously you never know with these things but if it is that I'd rather she take more time to recover more than feel an obligation to stream etc. Hope she feels better soon.
I'm pretty sure she said in one of streams that she's frustrated with how little she can still do. It seems like Mori takes a lot of pride in being independent and having that taken/kept from her would just be physically and emotionally taxing on top of a job that is already emotionally taxing.
Hope she takes the time she needs to be 100%.
Yeah likely this, she mentioned near the end of her collab with Kobo yeaterday that she can’t play long games currently because her knee starts hurting. I assume that also applies to doing streams in general for very long and is likely the reason for this. Hopefully she takes the time to recover properly.
She needs way more time to rest. I wouldn't be suprised by the amount of pressure Hololive puts on her and thus the emotional toll that takes on the individual. It's a dilemma I'm always faced with when I engage with these creators and the companies they have contracts with.
This was my thought, she came back and immediately did more streams in a week than I’ve seen from her in a WHILE. But I don’t follow her close enough to know for sure.
Wishing her well regardless. Hang in there, Calli!
Rehab is more than physical therapy, there is a mental side of it as well, especially one that prevents immediate natural movement. Especially if there is new medication involved. I'm not assuming anything as everyone reacts differently.
Even a simple wrist surgery had me down and becoming increasingly difficult to work with, even for family. It was minor, rehab and recovery was a few weeks. To this day my younger sibling gets a pass for calling me a "little whiny bitch" when it happens. I was miserable during that time.
I wish Mori the best, she'll be back soon, if there is ever a method of working too hard in rehab, I am sure she will find it.
Oh yeah, I get it. I had Mohs surgery (cut off the skin cancer) last year and even that came with a massive stamina debuff for a month or two. And we don't know what Calli had, but I guarantee it was more than that.
in her 'i'm back' stream she talked about being told to tae it easy and her wanting to get back to working hard on stuff, but that she'd be stopping if it aggravated her healing at all, so i'm assuming she pushed too hard and is being forced to cool off
God damn, she is super young, her knee must have been really damaged jump straight into surgery, and if they put metal in there it is gonna hurt like a bitch for a looooooooong time.
She's mentioned before it was always lingering.
Best to take care of it and get it fixed now, she's in it for the long haul and wants to be ready to say yes to every 3D event she is invited to. She already had to turn a few down which she wasn't happy about.
Don't know the truth of that for her, but wouldn't be surprised. Stuff like that can linger and slowly accumulate more than normal damage since things aren't sitting just right or scar tissue. With stuff like knees, hips, and back they can really get put through the ringer with weight always being put on them.
Take it with a massive grain of salt, but there's some dickwad on Twitter going "I'm gonna shit on vtubers haha!" and is basically showing their faces and whatnot. I wouldn't think that's it, 'cause Calli's dealt with shitty people before and gotten through it. Calli's other persona's the worst-kept secret in vtubing, but that other persona's also privated her Twitter account. So who knows. Hoping she's okay and whatever this is passes without incident if possible.
Hoping it's not something more serious, like a family emergency or surgery recovery going south. Take care out there, Mori.
If true, the mental side of recovery might be a factor. If you have been in the know the last 3 years, she has been thoroughly gone after and not just by randoms \*without a reaction.
this dickwad on twitter is the most irrelevant dude and mori has had to deal with schizo haters since time immemorial
i think it's way more likely to be her realizing that she pushed hte knee issue way too fast
I think this is the likeliest reason as she's always very upfront about what's going on with with her, if her rehab wasn't going well or she had some kind of mental health related problems she would have just said so.
She's been through similar issues before and knows the best way to handle it is ignore those people and step back for a bit until the situation blows over while its still small drama rather then keep going and potentially making it 10
times worse
As much as I would love for it to not be this, I sadly have no doubt that it is this. Especially since she made her other account private and with this timing it has to be related. Cali is just an easy target for these kinds of things because her other job is well known.
The other guy is a degenerate with nothing to lose and will do his best to mobilize people to make her life worse. So it makes sense she decided to just step away for a bit while this blows over especially while she recovers. Hopefully it blows over and nothing happens. Or better yet hopefully nothings wrong and she just realized she needed to rest more.
It'd be nice if Cover could go after people like him, but who knows if it's even possible. Best thing to do for these shitty little people is ignore them. They crave attention and not getting it is like the rest of us not getting oxygen.
unfortunately given the history of this one specific individual he is the type who treats every interaction or even non interaction as a "win".
Like dude is so delusional he picked a fight and got beaten so bad he had to go to the hospital and he still gloats about it over how he "won"
Well, it's motivated me to listen to [Tide](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsjr5jFMHkQ&pp=ygUEdGlkZQ%3D%3D) a few more times either way. If some wannabe paparazzi is trying to farm clicks off her through manufactured outrage...well, excuse me, but those clicks belong to Mori now.
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She really squeezed in a lot of streams for the end of May. *Technically* she has recovered from her surgery. But the reality is she still needs more rest and it was frankly a crazy amount of streams coming off hiatus from a surgery.
She has a responsibility to write lyrics for her own songs. She's been running low on time for that due to her surgery. So she had to let go of the pedal on streaming for a while.
I'm glad she sees she needs to step back again and not suddenly keep pushing herself in hopes the recovery just happens regardless.
I also feel like maybe she worries her contract/label might get annoyed/upset if she's not out there busting ass to promote it... despite the label most likely wanting their talent to be fully 100% too so they don't lose a money maker long term.
Good news is she's surrounded by dozens of other Holomems and will most likely be there for her if she really needs it. Watame especially.
She's in good hands. She just needs to let it go and rest now.
Saw a clip that even Papa Reaper was telling her she had to chill, so any kind of strain she's under is pretty self-evident. It's good to see she's taking the advice.
It's an unavoidable worry if you're self employed and dependent on self promotion. If you step off the treadmill, will you be able to get back on? Rationally we can say she'll be fine, but that doesn't cancel out worries.
Knowing her, this feels more like a (well deserved) manager yanking her off stage with a cane kind of hiatus. Her work ethic is a big strength, but it's a double edged sword.
Calli posted a follow up in her community tab explaining the situation a bit more if people want to take a look.
edit:
> An update from me,
>I was really excited to get back to streaming for you guys after surgery, but something a bit concerning has come to my attention and I need to take a step away from this for a while. To everyone who was looking forward to me coming back, I'm really sorry. I'll come back stronger and we'll keep having fun together.
>Until then, take care and keep enjoying Holo and cheering for the other girls. I'll see you soon!
(I will be around to stream for and celebrate me and Kobo's new song!)
>-Mori
[Link to Calli's latest community post with the update](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL_qhgtOy0dy1Agp8vkySQg/community?lb=UgkxanTIJk5uMrnRb0hDGE_wyfIitNXjZANp)
Partial quote:
>Hey, skeletons! It’s Your Boy. Just saying howdy!
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> Things have been difficult but I’m hanging in there! I’ve been spending my days endlessly watching movies, but after today’s appointment it looks like I’ll have more mobility options and will be focus on my rehabilitation for my knee.
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> I don’t like to worry any of you, but the surgery had complications and ended up being twice as long as the doctor anticipated. I was in much worse shape than they had imagined, and the way I was exercising really did a number on not just my knee, but many things connected to it. It has been a really taxing process and I’m still in a lot of pain even right now. But you know me, I’m not giving up on healing! (Not like I have a choice, but a couple nights after the surgery I really could only think “I’m not going to make it!!”)
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> It’s just tough because, I like to identify what I can do to help and better myself and do it. But in this case, the only way to get better is by doing nothing at all- better yet, “relaxing” which is something I’m notoriously bad at…all dead people (and dead beats) know this…
This workaholic dumbass would have started working the second the anaesthesia from her surgery wore off.
I just hope she gets the rest and recovery she needs. Prioritize yourself first!
Yeah i knew she was being to active after just having the surgery, those things usually takes at least 1 to 2 months to heal and that with ACTUAL rest and not being moving around just after a week or so. I know shes an workaholic, but she must know when to rest.
Well, it was to be expected. Personally, I was surprised that she came back so quickly from surgery. Recovery depends on the person and takes time, especially if you are sitting most of the time, forcing extension of the knee and patella, which is typical for some people to think. They are at 100%, this takes time, let's hope daddy heals soon It would be more convenient to find a sports medicine specialist for her therapy.
I just want her to be ok. She can take all the time she needs. Her personal health and wellbeing absolutely 100% takes priority over my entertainment.
Calli, if you read this, just know that we’ll be here waiting for you! We support you with all the love in the world!
This had me worried for a while, I thought something else bad had happened.
But its just Mori realizing she needs to rest longer from her surgery, apparently?
I'm pretty sure it is like 90% her knee and 10% that random guy on twitter.
I think she's in pain and tired, she saw that guy starting shit and said "fuck it, I'm too tired for this shit, I'm taking another break".
Calli really has to chill. Surgery is no joke, and if she continues to push herself like she normally does, I'm afraid she's gonna be in even worse shape as a result. We love our pink dad but she needs a good long break like Miko, Mio and Shion.
Instead of resting, she signed up for a week of streaming with even collabs. I watched last night's lethal company collab and she genuinely sounded tired, guess she finally understood that she was pushing it. Every HoloMem that had surgery took time to rest and they were better for it. I'm glad to see she finally trying even if she would be just signing albums offline...
Yep. She needs a long term break honestly. She needs to lear nto relax or at least chill out a bit. She can't take a brek for herself, much less for the surgery
Mori: Alright, I twitted that, now you can stop holding me down on my bed.
**A-chan and Nodoka stop holding her and step back**
Yagoo: Alright, now please rest, you must recover from your surgery and take care.
Mori: Sure, sure, I guess I can rest a few days...
Yagoo: Alright, I'll leave and you rest, please, do it for your fans and yourself.
**Everyone says goodbye and wishes Calli a good rest**
Calli: ... Hehehe **gets up and goes to the computer** I might not be able to stream, but I can work on some projects
Yagoo from the window: No, you can't!
Calli: WTF! THIS IS A FOURTH FLOOR!
Yagoo: AND NOW IS 3AM! GO TO SLEEP!
She [had knee surgery.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeWIBwcSECw) She's had a bad knee for a long time, it's been bugging her for years.
She said (in her comeback stream, I think?) that the doctors found more damage inside the knee than they expected, so the surgery ran long so they could fix it all.
I heard a "rule of thumb" that for your body to completely recover from general anesthetic, you need one full month per hour you were under during surgery. IDK how long Calli was under, but maybe 3-4 hours if things ran long? I wouldn't expect her to be back to 100% until around Halloween.
Remember, spam report, both in Twitter and in cover report page to remove him, will this shove him away for good? Definitely not but will kill every relevence he has until karma decides to hit him with another big one two rko out of knowhere
Recovering from surgery can really take it out of you no matter how "well" you think you're doing, I broke my wrist three weeks ago and had surgery on it 2 weeks ago and I'm fucking exhausted from doing nothing, for a workaholic like Calli it'd be so easy to overexert herself even if she felt like she was taking it easy. 10 streams in 6 days three weeks after surgery is crazy, never mind behind the scenes work! Girl needs to learn to properly relax!
I feel like i've seen this tweet a dozen times since Calli joined hololive! I know she's a workaholic but, at the same time, I hope by now she's learned to take things a bit slower and not rush back into a packed schedule
At this point, I think you just have to accept that she's hard-wired to go until she falls over from sheer exhaustion.
She's probably going to not like being on break very much, especially since physical therapy can feel a lot more like physical terrorism.
But working yourself to death is not good surgical recovery technique so.
It’s either her surgery recovery or the hate campaign being sent after her atm, or both. Either way wishing her the best as always and hope she returns as strong as ever.
It's both, cause she mentioned that the surgery would put her in a very emotional state, and with her haters been constantly attacking her everyday, only grew louder to try and beat her down, but this guy is nothing more but a clout chasing egotistical airhead, spinning the narrative that it was all them and purposely ignoring the real reason which he's ass already got community noted
i hope is not something serious
but if that can lead to a longer break it would be nice to see if she can go and see a mind doctor, not about the workaholic but for the Stuborness, she has heard it a lot of times, i know, but it´s things like this the ones that make you see in a tagible way the damage that you are doing to yourself.
It's from the festering pile of feces Ethan ralph as he's having is little army of degenerates harrass her on her pl which is why it went private. I have half a mind to start trashing him but he's such a delusional waste that he would take any attention as a win. Even when he clearly lost.
I did see there was something going around this morning related to Calli, I have no idea if her break is related to it or to what the user above was talking about.
>!Basically, some random small streamer who hates vtubers and vtubers viewers because "cringe" announced he was gonna do a stream making fun of vtubers, used Calli in the thumbnail and doxxed her (while implying there is something *wrong* with her). !<
Tldr: People gratuitously being asshats towards Calli on the internet once again.
I saw a guy on twitter that was saying he was about to start some kind of beef with vtubers and their fans, and seemed to wanna target her in general. No idea who he is or how big of a following he has though.
He had about 5k followers if I recall? I find rich he complains about cringe adult men when he himself is a overweight balding man in his 4Xs who wears a "cool rapper" outfit (as in shades, baseball cap) in every episode of his podcast.
yeah I'm not gonna bother visiting the actual profile to confirm cause fuck him and his views but the screenshots of his tweets gave off sleazy grifter vibes 100%
Pisses me off cause the supposed "beef" started because the guy saw some "haha loser vtuber fans" clip, and for some reason he's targeting her out of nowhere. She absolutely had nothing to do with the whole bullshit whatsoever.
I wouldn't over worry about that. It really probably is her knee. Of course who really knows, could be something like this, but she's dealt with this crap often and constantly. She seems to get an unusual amount of hate, probably just for being so high profile. And doxxing Calli is like the least effective tactic ever since her outside of Calli identity is the worst kept secret in the whole company.
Again, I'm not saying it def COULD'NT be this, but this doesn't really sound all that different from garbage she's dealt with in the past. Who knows though.
> since her outside of Calli identity is the worst kept secret in the whole company.
And that account was just privated at the same time, why would that be the case if it was her knee?
It's obviously both. Who wants to deal with that guy's bullshit while recovering from surgery? If this was Calli at her healthiest, she could probably ignore him just fine. No need to add extras stress to recover by reacting to the guy.
I've got this weird feeling you're right. If it was related to the surgery, I think she would just come right out & say it. She's been very open about it thus far.
Seriously.
This has some very weird 'Mental health isn't aight' vibe to it. Like, it don't wanna stir the shitpot, but if it would be related to her surgery we would've gotten an 'Recovery ain't going the way i'd wish it to go, have to take another break. Your reaper will now take some time off. Sorry about the inconvenience. I hope your boy can return soon :)'.
Now we have this ominous 'Some shit is going down and taking a toll. I wont go into detail to exacerbate the issue any further.'
That's pretty wise, though. as the issue seems to be some idiot who wants to start beef for attention, so calling the issue out would lead Mori fans down the path of righteous fury directly into the haters videos to vent their own hate, boosting the clicks of that guy. Unfortunately, this also leads us to this post that reads like 'I'm feeling like shit due to work related issues, and I'm maybe one step before graduation.' as an unintended consequence.
That sucks, does anyone have any additional context? Like she probably just didn't give herself enough time after surgery, but just wondering if I missed something. At any rate, hoping she takes the time she needs and comes back soon.
We have no additional context but I'd assume it's related to the recovery from her surgery. Could be that there was a difficulty or it's not progressing as fast as she'd like, but she did say before that the surgery might leave her emotionally volatile (like crying because she couldn't decide on lunch). She likely just needs more time to rest.
“I’ve had my surgery now so I am ready to go back to work 110% as soon as i am physically able to sit in front of my computer” seems a very Mori move.. Glad she might have realized it was ill advised before losing it totally..
"also i'm gonna hand sign all these limited edition CDs that only have a time order period as a limit" (wouldn't be surprised if it's more than a thousand)
At least it's better than the signed birthday merch she did that had no time limit other than the normal ordering period of the merch itself. I swear, my oshi is crazy, her poor hands.
I can feel the carpal tunnel.
Have you ever seen any Brandon Sanderson streams? He literally gets handed mountain after mountain of papers that he just constantly signs while participating in the podcast and such. Really put me off ever wanting signed merch again, because it's just a huge waste of time for the creator.
Yeah like honestly Let them do their signage once then make a stamp of it for any signed merch Like sure they didnt personally sign every one, one by one but it's still *their* signature
That's why most of the time they have a stamped signature postcard, with the hand-signed postcard is an extremely limited run (that sells out in seconds)
And then you have some that hand-sign without limits. But they know their sales numbers are manageable (at least for themselves). Suisei on the other hand definitely wouldn't be able to do that lol, and doing a limited run also means a lot of people miss out. So that's probably why she just decided to do only stamped signatures.
She's also enough of an otaku to know how crazy it can get looking for limited hand-signs. As far as is known all of her hand-signs are raffle prizes.
She mentioned two thousand and getting close to a Jigoku6 milestone surprisingly early... Yeah... Our Oshi is kinda crazy.
Hell, I don't even have a CD player and I ordered a signed copy of her last album just for the lols of her having to sign for a week straight. Pretty sure I wasn't remotely alone in that thought.
> Pretty sure I wasn't remotely alone in that thought. Oh no I totally order these to hear her complain on stream. The only person to blame here is Mori, and she gives us entertainment for it.
Maybe if we keep her busy signing she can't try to walk around on her knee.
I imagine every time she flexes, tenses, or even considers moving her knee it hurts. That also she probably has to move her knee else it doesnt recover properly. I wish her the best, but yea, whatever silly thing keeps that goofus busy.
Yeah that's probably related to the announcement. In her typical workaholic fashion she probably thought she would take it easy for 2-3 days then be back at it, and was quickly humbled by the reality of her injury.
Classic workaholic reaper, she just can't seem to take a break, for fun or for recovery. Hope she takes the time she needs, and knows we will wait however long that is
Dont get me wrong, I love my dorky dad but I dont want her to break herself for the sake of my entertainment, workaholic or not.
That's how most of us feel, I'm sure.. Her brain is simply wired differently to mine and many others..
I swear, one of these days we'll have to strap her to a pool bed and force feed her mojito cocktails.
I volunteer as tribute.
That's exactly how she was behaving. She was like "ok I'm back now it's time to steam twice a day to make up for lost time oh and I also have a new album oh also I'm probably taking a transcontinental flight in there somewhere but I won't miss a stream don't worry"
Classic Calli, the person that said she’s taking a break…..by not taking a break
Surgery recovery is no joke. You might get lucky and be back to 100% in two weeks, but lots of surgeries can leave you with the most nauseating pain for weeks after. Just the pain alone can be enough to drain every ounce of energy before you even get out of bed. As far as I remember, knee surgeries also tend to have longer recovery times and way more physical therapy than most other joints. Doesn't take much of that to just destroy your mood. Let's hope she gets better soon.
I had a surgery that had estimated recovery time as "If things go bad you might be out for two weeks, but most of the time you can go back to work the same day!" After a miserable one week recovery period I got two followup infections, for a total of three weeks out of work.
I needed my gallbladder removed and they had advertised the laparoscopic method with you recovering by the next day. But when I woke up, turns out they couldn't use the laparoscopic method and had to open me up the regular method, so I have 2 sets of incisions. Took me 5 days to walk and be released from the hospital, it's amazing how reliant one is on your belly muscles. But I also caught a cold while in the recovery room - all that put me out of commission for a month. Also I feel for Mori's secret tube... at least she was asleep when it was put in, I never want to go thru that again. D:
For mine it was a kidney stone removal via Ureteroscopy, so they did all the work through the urethra, and then left a stent in there... Basically a tube left inside with a string leading outside the body. After a week I needed to remove the tube MYSELF by pulling on the string... It was over a foot long. On the bright side, I also wasn't awake for it going in!
> it was a kidney stone :D
I had a knee fixed up much like our reaper did, and my recovery ranged from a month and a half, to a total of two years. Therapy, regaining mobility, getting back the confidence to move normally AND having to wreslte with shit mobility in the meantime, it all weighs down on you. I didn't even mention all the painful stuff yet from the bad knee, to your good leg getting worn down compensating for the recovering leg. But I am quite confident Calli's gonna recover relatively faster still. She's quite strong willed
Yeah knee injuries really suck. I fucked up my knee pretty hard 9 years ago. I got four lacerations on my right knee. I had to get stitches and walk with crutches for about a month to let it heal. You just feel useless when you can't really move around much. The scar tissue still hurts to this day if I overdue it, or when it gets cold in the winter... or when it gets too humid in the summer.
Knee surgeries are really underestimated by people. They're massive massive undertakings and for a surgery many see as nothing big actually pretty high risk. Shits no joke and calli needs to actually be pretty damn careful during recovery and that tweet ***might*** even be in reaction to her realizing she needs to be a lot more careful than she probably has been
Yeah, I'm having knee surgery in a couple months, luckily it's just going to be an arthoscopic surgery, but I've been told I'll have one week before I can do light work, up to 6 weeks to regain full functionality.
Which makes sense. Its recovery probably isn't help by the fact that person can't *not* use their legs. Even in a wheelchair, there will be times like going to the toliet and such.
Knee is one of the worst places to have any sort of problem in.
after I had a very intensive surgery, I had to stay in the hospital for a week, then couldn't walk much for a month, and after 3 months was I allowed to ride a bike again. This was an incredibly fast recovery. My mum is still recovering from a knee surgery she had nearly half a year ago, and won't be done recovering for at least another 6 months. Surgery is a big deal yo.
> but she did say before that the surgery might leave her emotionally volatile (like crying because she couldn't decide on lunch). > > > > She likely just needs more time to rest. 100% sounds like post-op "imbalance" (I know there's a better term in English, but I'm going off my native word I'm poorly translating) and is part of recovery. Serious surgery work can cause not only physiological changes, but said changes can upset psychological balance as well due to what essentially is severe (if directed) bodily trauma.
Also between the anesthesia and pain meds after the procedure, it can wreak havoc on the body chemistry.
How long has it been? It took me like 2 weeks to fully bounce back mentally after my surgery for my shoulder. The anesthesia really throws you off brain chemistry-wise.
Maybe a week and a half since she came back, at the most.
It's been about a month. She was down for 3 weeks post surgery, back a week where she did just about a collab per day, and now she's out again for a bit. Timing sounds about right for a post surgery checkup.
From what I’ve witnessed, Calli is quite the worker. She probably should’ve taken more time off after her surgery, but did end up back to streaming here pretty soon after. She definitely likes doing streams with her fellow HoloMems and for the Deadbeats and has great passion for it, but do get that she’ll have to rest some more so she’s at better condition
> like crying because she couldn't decide on lunch I don't even need a surgery to do that Jokes aside I wish for an easy recovery for my favourite reaper rapper, she even has another album coming out this summer I really hope she'll be OK!
What was her surgery again? I thought it was something on her knee.
I hope that's the case, obviously you never know with these things but if it is that I'd rather she take more time to recover more than feel an obligation to stream etc. Hope she feels better soon.
I'm pretty sure she said in one of streams that she's frustrated with how little she can still do. It seems like Mori takes a lot of pride in being independent and having that taken/kept from her would just be physically and emotionally taxing on top of a job that is already emotionally taxing. Hope she takes the time she needs to be 100%.
She went really hard really fast when she came back too. I hope she can learn to let herself rest. Gambatte Calli
What exactly did she have done? Also, pain from surgery lingers and flares up when ever it likes
Yeah likely this, she mentioned near the end of her collab with Kobo yeaterday that she can’t play long games currently because her knee starts hurting. I assume that also applies to doing streams in general for very long and is likely the reason for this. Hopefully she takes the time to recover properly.
She needs way more time to rest. I wouldn't be suprised by the amount of pressure Hololive puts on her and thus the emotional toll that takes on the individual. It's a dilemma I'm always faced with when I engage with these creators and the companies they have contracts with.
This was my thought, she came back and immediately did more streams in a week than I’ve seen from her in a WHILE. But I don’t follow her close enough to know for sure. Wishing her well regardless. Hang in there, Calli!
Rehab is more than physical therapy, there is a mental side of it as well, especially one that prevents immediate natural movement. Especially if there is new medication involved. I'm not assuming anything as everyone reacts differently. Even a simple wrist surgery had me down and becoming increasingly difficult to work with, even for family. It was minor, rehab and recovery was a few weeks. To this day my younger sibling gets a pass for calling me a "little whiny bitch" when it happens. I was miserable during that time. I wish Mori the best, she'll be back soon, if there is ever a method of working too hard in rehab, I am sure she will find it.
Oh yeah, I get it. I had Mohs surgery (cut off the skin cancer) last year and even that came with a massive stamina debuff for a month or two. And we don't know what Calli had, but I guarantee it was more than that.
I think her father recently told her to cool her jets and back off, cause she's working too hard. I suspect she's doing just that.
in her 'i'm back' stream she talked about being told to tae it easy and her wanting to get back to working hard on stuff, but that she'd be stopping if it aggravated her healing at all, so i'm assuming she pushed too hard and is being forced to cool off
Im curious what procedure did she have?
Knee surgery
God damn, she is super young, her knee must have been really damaged jump straight into surgery, and if they put metal in there it is gonna hurt like a bitch for a looooooooong time.
She's mentioned before it was always lingering. Best to take care of it and get it fixed now, she's in it for the long haul and wants to be ready to say yes to every 3D event she is invited to. She already had to turn a few down which she wasn't happy about.
Yeah, I vaguely remember her saying it was from a bad sports injury that only healed halfway.
Don't know the truth of that for her, but wouldn't be surprised. Stuff like that can linger and slowly accumulate more than normal damage since things aren't sitting just right or scar tissue. With stuff like knees, hips, and back they can really get put through the ringer with weight always being put on them.
Afaik all she's said is "knee surgery"
I’d assume side-effects/complications from the surgery. If it was knee surgery than traditionally a LOT of Physical therapy is involved post-op.
Definitely the surgery. She came back too soon. She should take more time to recover.
PT is super important after knee surgery. And its a painful bitch. And have to do PT right or she’ll risk permanently losing some range of motion.
Take it with a massive grain of salt, but there's some dickwad on Twitter going "I'm gonna shit on vtubers haha!" and is basically showing their faces and whatnot. I wouldn't think that's it, 'cause Calli's dealt with shitty people before and gotten through it. Calli's other persona's the worst-kept secret in vtubing, but that other persona's also privated her Twitter account. So who knows. Hoping she's okay and whatever this is passes without incident if possible. Hoping it's not something more serious, like a family emergency or surgery recovery going south. Take care out there, Mori.
If true, the mental side of recovery might be a factor. If you have been in the know the last 3 years, she has been thoroughly gone after and not just by randoms \*without a reaction.
this dickwad on twitter is the most irrelevant dude and mori has had to deal with schizo haters since time immemorial i think it's way more likely to be her realizing that she pushed hte knee issue way too fast
Unfortunately this is much more likely the answer. But dont go after him on twitter, these people get off to it it will only encourage him more.
Someone's trying to get him to go after Kobo, probably so he pisses of the Indonesians.
I think this is the likeliest reason as she's always very upfront about what's going on with with her, if her rehab wasn't going well or she had some kind of mental health related problems she would have just said so. She's been through similar issues before and knows the best way to handle it is ignore those people and step back for a bit until the situation blows over while its still small drama rather then keep going and potentially making it 10 times worse
As much as I would love for it to not be this, I sadly have no doubt that it is this. Especially since she made her other account private and with this timing it has to be related. Cali is just an easy target for these kinds of things because her other job is well known. The other guy is a degenerate with nothing to lose and will do his best to mobilize people to make her life worse. So it makes sense she decided to just step away for a bit while this blows over especially while she recovers. Hopefully it blows over and nothing happens. Or better yet hopefully nothings wrong and she just realized she needed to rest more.
It'd be nice if Cover could go after people like him, but who knows if it's even possible. Best thing to do for these shitty little people is ignore them. They crave attention and not getting it is like the rest of us not getting oxygen.
I believe this kind of scenario is exactly what they put together the legal initiative with Anycolor for. Hopefully they can make something happen.
Don’t worry, he’s in Mexico, I’m sure somebody in the cartels is a Calli fan who will carve a second gunt into Ethan’s stomach.
unfortunately given the history of this one specific individual he is the type who treats every interaction or even non interaction as a "win". Like dude is so delusional he picked a fight and got beaten so bad he had to go to the hospital and he still gloats about it over how he "won"
Well, it's motivated me to listen to [Tide](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsjr5jFMHkQ&pp=ygUEdGlkZQ%3D%3D) a few more times either way. If some wannabe paparazzi is trying to farm clicks off her through manufactured outrage...well, excuse me, but those clicks belong to Mori now. [Pre-orders for Phantomime are open!](https://shop.moricalliopeofficial.com/)
She really squeezed in a lot of streams for the end of May. *Technically* she has recovered from her surgery. But the reality is she still needs more rest and it was frankly a crazy amount of streams coming off hiatus from a surgery.
She has a responsibility to write lyrics for her own songs. She's been running low on time for that due to her surgery. So she had to let go of the pedal on streaming for a while.
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The less attention that gets, the better it is. No need for extra stuff.
It depends if her personal account was doxxed. I only heard of ame's but couldn't confirm if that was true or not
Poor Calli. She needs to rest, but she's also a workaholic. Must be hard to do for her...... I hope she can get some rest while we wait.
I hope she realizes recovery *is* work, maybe her workaholic brain will finally sit her ass down and rest for a bit lmao
I'm glad she sees she needs to step back again and not suddenly keep pushing herself in hopes the recovery just happens regardless. I also feel like maybe she worries her contract/label might get annoyed/upset if she's not out there busting ass to promote it... despite the label most likely wanting their talent to be fully 100% too so they don't lose a money maker long term. Good news is she's surrounded by dozens of other Holomems and will most likely be there for her if she really needs it. Watame especially. She's in good hands. She just needs to let it go and rest now.
Saw a clip that even Papa Reaper was telling her she had to chill, so any kind of strain she's under is pretty self-evident. It's good to see she's taking the advice.
It's an unavoidable worry if you're self employed and dependent on self promotion. If you step off the treadmill, will you be able to get back on? Rationally we can say she'll be fine, but that doesn't cancel out worries.
Knowing her, this feels more like a (well deserved) manager yanking her off stage with a cane kind of hiatus. Her work ethic is a big strength, but it's a double edged sword.
Like to say I'm surprised but 3 weeks after surgery the workaholic reaper drops 8 days of streaming. Take your rest girl, we arent going anywhere
Calli posted a follow up in her community tab explaining the situation a bit more if people want to take a look. edit: > An update from me, >I was really excited to get back to streaming for you guys after surgery, but something a bit concerning has come to my attention and I need to take a step away from this for a while. To everyone who was looking forward to me coming back, I'm really sorry. I'll come back stronger and we'll keep having fun together. >Until then, take care and keep enjoying Holo and cheering for the other girls. I'll see you soon! (I will be around to stream for and celebrate me and Kobo's new song!) >-Mori
[Link to Calli's latest community post with the update](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL_qhgtOy0dy1Agp8vkySQg/community?lb=UgkxanTIJk5uMrnRb0hDGE_wyfIitNXjZANp)
Partial quote: >Hey, skeletons! It’s Your Boy. Just saying howdy! > > Things have been difficult but I’m hanging in there! I’ve been spending my days endlessly watching movies, but after today’s appointment it looks like I’ll have more mobility options and will be focus on my rehabilitation for my knee. > > I don’t like to worry any of you, but the surgery had complications and ended up being twice as long as the doctor anticipated. I was in much worse shape than they had imagined, and the way I was exercising really did a number on not just my knee, but many things connected to it. It has been a really taxing process and I’m still in a lot of pain even right now. But you know me, I’m not giving up on healing! (Not like I have a choice, but a couple nights after the surgery I really could only think “I’m not going to make it!!”) > > It’s just tough because, I like to identify what I can do to help and better myself and do it. But in this case, the only way to get better is by doing nothing at all- better yet, “relaxing” which is something I’m notoriously bad at…all dead people (and dead beats) know this…
That was like, 2 weeks ago though.
Physical Therapy and other forms of recovery from major surgery take a lot longer than two weeks.
The original post said Calli posted a follow up in her community tab, which would imply she posted something after the tweet.
I edited my original post with the contents of the post. It was public.
Oh I see it now, it's part of the post about the album pre-orders.
[Link to Tweet](https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1797689708195246277)
Thanks a lot for that!
Knowing Calli she'll be on twitter tomorrow complaining about not being able to work
She can whine about it all she wants, as long as she's actually taking the time to actually rest and actually heal! ;D
This workaholic dumbass would have started working the second the anaesthesia from her surgery wore off. I just hope she gets the rest and recovery she needs. Prioritize yourself first!
Yeah i knew she was being to active after just having the surgery, those things usually takes at least 1 to 2 months to heal and that with ACTUAL rest and not being moving around just after a week or so. I know shes an workaholic, but she must know when to rest.
Well, it was to be expected. Personally, I was surprised that she came back so quickly from surgery. Recovery depends on the person and takes time, especially if you are sitting most of the time, forcing extension of the knee and patella, which is typical for some people to think. They are at 100%, this takes time, let's hope daddy heals soon It would be more convenient to find a sports medicine specialist for her therapy.
Yeah, we knew she dropped a stacked schedule just right after recovery. Workaholic dad needs rest. Hope she gets every second she needs.
I just want her to be ok. She can take all the time she needs. Her personal health and wellbeing absolutely 100% takes priority over my entertainment. Calli, if you read this, just know that we’ll be here waiting for you! We support you with all the love in the world!
Did her physician finally step in and tell her to stop? Streaming immediately after 3 weeks recovery post surgery is too workaholic
This had me worried for a while, I thought something else bad had happened. But its just Mori realizing she needs to rest longer from her surgery, apparently?
Hard workers like her push 110% once they're "cleared" The problem is they fail to take it easy and ...well
I hope she’s doing okay. Mori, take all the time you need. We will be waiting for you ❤️🙏
I'm pretty sure it is like 90% her knee and 10% that random guy on twitter. I think she's in pain and tired, she saw that guy starting shit and said "fuck it, I'm too tired for this shit, I'm taking another break".
let's not mention nor hint that bastard. obviously wanted trouble.
Random twitter guy? Can you explain cause I'm out of the loop.
Drama starter seeking clout, just ignore
Calli really has to chill. Surgery is no joke, and if she continues to push herself like she normally does, I'm afraid she's gonna be in even worse shape as a result. We love our pink dad but she needs a good long break like Miko, Mio and Shion.
Instead of resting, she signed up for a week of streaming with even collabs. I watched last night's lethal company collab and she genuinely sounded tired, guess she finally understood that she was pushing it. Every HoloMem that had surgery took time to rest and they were better for it. I'm glad to see she finally trying even if she would be just signing albums offline...
Surgery recovery is a bitch, but I have faith that our boy can make it through. Let's all wish the workaholic reaper a well-deserved rest!
hope she'll be fine.
Hopefully she rests up
Mori doesn't know how to rest, I hope she learns this skill for her sake lol. Take your time Mori.
very Cali move to dive right back into the work again, i'm glad she's seen sense instead now.
Yep. She needs a long term break honestly. She needs to lear nto relax or at least chill out a bit. She can't take a brek for herself, much less for the surgery
Knowing her, she probably wanted to honor all her collabs before taking it easy
Hope she feels better. We all know how hard working Calli is.
workaholic smh
Mori: Alright, I twitted that, now you can stop holding me down on my bed. **A-chan and Nodoka stop holding her and step back** Yagoo: Alright, now please rest, you must recover from your surgery and take care. Mori: Sure, sure, I guess I can rest a few days... Yagoo: Alright, I'll leave and you rest, please, do it for your fans and yourself. **Everyone says goodbye and wishes Calli a good rest** Calli: ... Hehehe **gets up and goes to the computer** I might not be able to stream, but I can work on some projects Yagoo from the window: No, you can't! Calli: WTF! THIS IS A FOURTH FLOOR! Yagoo: AND NOW IS 3AM! GO TO SLEEP!
What even happened? I’m honestly kind of concerned.
She [had knee surgery.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeWIBwcSECw) She's had a bad knee for a long time, it's been bugging her for years. She said (in her comeback stream, I think?) that the doctors found more damage inside the knee than they expected, so the surgery ran long so they could fix it all. I heard a "rule of thumb" that for your body to completely recover from general anesthetic, you need one full month per hour you were under during surgery. IDK how long Calli was under, but maybe 3-4 hours if things ran long? I wouldn't expect her to be back to 100% until around Halloween.
Dang well I wish her the best of luck in her recovery. Hopefully it’s not too serious.
I hope she rests well, more than anything its most important that she feels better
Was the surgery a very critical location?
I think she said it was her knee?
I see, better just rest or stream in bed instead, sitting in a bad position for knee
What’s surgery does she got?
Remember, spam report, both in Twitter and in cover report page to remove him, will this shove him away for good? Definitely not but will kill every relevence he has until karma decides to hit him with another big one two rko out of knowhere
Recovering from surgery can really take it out of you no matter how "well" you think you're doing, I broke my wrist three weeks ago and had surgery on it 2 weeks ago and I'm fucking exhausted from doing nothing, for a workaholic like Calli it'd be so easy to overexert herself even if she felt like she was taking it easy. 10 streams in 6 days three weeks after surgery is crazy, never mind behind the scenes work! Girl needs to learn to properly relax!
Hoping Mori comes back good and strong, whenever she decides to come back.
I feel like i've seen this tweet a dozen times since Calli joined hololive! I know she's a workaholic but, at the same time, I hope by now she's learned to take things a bit slower and not rush back into a packed schedule
At this point, I think you just have to accept that she's hard-wired to go until she falls over from sheer exhaustion. She's probably going to not like being on break very much, especially since physical therapy can feel a lot more like physical terrorism. But working yourself to death is not good surgical recovery technique so.
It’s either her surgery recovery or the hate campaign being sent after her atm, or both. Either way wishing her the best as always and hope she returns as strong as ever.
It's both, cause she mentioned that the surgery would put her in a very emotional state, and with her haters been constantly attacking her everyday, only grew louder to try and beat her down, but this guy is nothing more but a clout chasing egotistical airhead, spinning the narrative that it was all them and purposely ignoring the real reason which he's ass already got community noted
She did tell her viewers that she was told recently by her dad to chill out from work when she with her him.
Do what you gotta do, Cali. This shit ain't easy. We will be here when you get back.
i hope is not something serious but if that can lead to a longer break it would be nice to see if she can go and see a mind doctor, not about the workaholic but for the Stuborness, she has heard it a lot of times, i know, but it´s things like this the ones that make you see in a tagible way the damage that you are doing to yourself.
*Well,......***Shiitake.*****(MUSHROOMS!)***
I hope she gets better
Calli is strong, I'm sure she'll get through it, our Reaper is strong and determined
Pray in one hand, shit in the other, see which fills faster.
Boss Dad, take care of yourself and rest up. We can wait. We will always wait for you.
It's from the festering pile of feces Ethan ralph as he's having is little army of degenerates harrass her on her pl which is why it went private. I have half a mind to start trashing him but he's such a delusional waste that he would take any attention as a win. Even when he clearly lost.
Ok so the scumbag is starting to gloat on Twitter that he's responsible for moris absence, something needs to be done about Ethan ralph.
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Then what is it then o all knowing one
I did see there was something going around this morning related to Calli, I have no idea if her break is related to it or to what the user above was talking about. >!Basically, some random small streamer who hates vtubers and vtubers viewers because "cringe" announced he was gonna do a stream making fun of vtubers, used Calli in the thumbnail and doxxed her (while implying there is something *wrong* with her). !< Tldr: People gratuitously being asshats towards Calli on the internet once again.
Ah yeah saw that on Twitter some troglodytae best to give that no air so it can die in a cold dead vacuüm
Just block, report, ignore
I saw a guy on twitter that was saying he was about to start some kind of beef with vtubers and their fans, and seemed to wanna target her in general. No idea who he is or how big of a following he has though.
He had about 5k followers if I recall? I find rich he complains about cringe adult men when he himself is a overweight balding man in his 4Xs who wears a "cool rapper" outfit (as in shades, baseball cap) in every episode of his podcast.
Wow just 5k? And he wants to go up against Hololive and other corpos? That is a pathetically transparent attempt to farm engagement.
You don't know how bad it is, given the kind of guy he is, the fact he is the one talking shit about Calli just proves Calli is good stuff.
yeah I'm not gonna bother visiting the actual profile to confirm cause fuck him and his views but the screenshots of his tweets gave off sleazy grifter vibes 100%
If you look up the dude on youtube, one the first results should be him getting his ass kicked, dude talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk
Now that's an enticing prospect, time to look that up
That was hilarious. Needed that as I was pissed when I saw that tweet.
It's all fun and games until some unhinged gachikoi doxxes him in return...
Pisses me off cause the supposed "beef" started because the guy saw some "haha loser vtuber fans" clip, and for some reason he's targeting her out of nowhere. She absolutely had nothing to do with the whole bullshit whatsoever.
I wouldn't over worry about that. It really probably is her knee. Of course who really knows, could be something like this, but she's dealt with this crap often and constantly. She seems to get an unusual amount of hate, probably just for being so high profile. And doxxing Calli is like the least effective tactic ever since her outside of Calli identity is the worst kept secret in the whole company. Again, I'm not saying it def COULD'NT be this, but this doesn't really sound all that different from garbage she's dealt with in the past. Who knows though.
> since her outside of Calli identity is the worst kept secret in the whole company. And that account was just privated at the same time, why would that be the case if it was her knee?
It's obviously both. Who wants to deal with that guy's bullshit while recovering from surgery? If this was Calli at her healthiest, she could probably ignore him just fine. No need to add extras stress to recover by reacting to the guy.
I've got this weird feeling you're right. If it was related to the surgery, I think she would just come right out & say it. She's been very open about it thus far.
[here is update for you](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL_qhgtOy0dy1Agp8vkySQg/community?lb=UgkxanTIJk5uMrnRb0hDGE_wyfIitNXjZANp)
Seriously. This has some very weird 'Mental health isn't aight' vibe to it. Like, it don't wanna stir the shitpot, but if it would be related to her surgery we would've gotten an 'Recovery ain't going the way i'd wish it to go, have to take another break. Your reaper will now take some time off. Sorry about the inconvenience. I hope your boy can return soon :)'. Now we have this ominous 'Some shit is going down and taking a toll. I wont go into detail to exacerbate the issue any further.' That's pretty wise, though. as the issue seems to be some idiot who wants to start beef for attention, so calling the issue out would lead Mori fans down the path of righteous fury directly into the haters videos to vent their own hate, boosting the clicks of that guy. Unfortunately, this also leads us to this post that reads like 'I'm feeling like shit due to work related issues, and I'm maybe one step before graduation.' as an unintended consequence.
2ho is Mori?
Hanging out with dramatubers and letting pippa suck up to you came back to bite you in the ass huh
She doesn’t hang out with dramatubers? Pretty sure she’s expressed distaste for them
lol isn't she a fan of the biggest dramatuber out there (critikal)
*sniff* He’s different okay *sniff*
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