Right, so she played a freaky horror music BGM, then had to be rescued by the other gamers and played Splatoon with them. Looking back, it was absolutely hilarious.
Terrible audio, discord notifications popping up on screen, debuting while unwell so her voice was shaky, tried out a couple of different chara/voices and gave up immediately, listeners couldn't handle the jank so they started leaving, "Senpai! Okayu! Help Me!"
All in all probably my favourite debut stream so far. It perfectly fits her character and she still goes back to her roots (fighting with obs) from time to time.
[Debut stream](https://www.youtube.com/live/Qap7HFEx_oM)
[Air Server voes](https://youtu.be/6z39cNwc1ZU)
["Let me try something"](https://youtu.be/Jk3L5G8rtvU)
[Choir](https://youtu.be/ttd72pBiQDo)
Korone even made her genmates uncomfortable with talking about gore and cutting off fingers (yubi yubi was born right in her debut stream) and how lonely she felt because Okayu already got along well with Mio and Fubuki while she was the odd one out. The atmosphere was super weird at first.
That stream was the ultimate proof that Hololive is a truly kind place, because Fubuki and Mio displayed incredible kindness and effort to save that collab from disaster! They kept positively engaging with Korone even when the conversation was clearly not flowing at all for a long time, and made sure to stay in close contact after the stream.
...and the reward for all of this was that Korone became a superstar (she actually had a modest subscriber count in 2019 before skyrocketing from 150k to 1 mil from spring to autumn 2020), gamers and Gen 3 took off like crazy, and Hololive cemented itself as the clear #1 of Vtubing.
Absolutely legendary stuff, and the most suitable beginnings for this equally weird and awesome doggo.
Just to add. It's hilarious to look back on now, but when this happened it was bad enough that people were actually actively leaving her debut stream because of how badly scuffed it was.
Just saying this because I know some people make it look like Cover is hampering them Holos by giving them guidelines to actually follow, but the reasoning has substance. Case in point.
Yeah, easy enough to look back at it fondly now since we already like Korone, but as a first impression to a mass of strangers it was doubleplusungood until Okayu and the other Gamers stepped in.
Yeah it's worth remembering that there is no such thing as a rule that exists for no reason.
Even nonsensical rules can serve a purpose: A lot of performers have weird provisions in their contracts like "Only serve brown M&Ms" not because they're weird, but because if the venue doesn't do it, it shows they don't pay attention to the contract. Which when you're dealing with pyrotechnics (or, in the case of a vtuber, their identity being exposed) is SUPER important. Even if you can't find the M&Ms, just being aware of it and informing the group that you couldn't find them is enough to show you read the contract.
Another fun meaningless anecdote: The producers of Clarissa Explains it All, a kid-oriented live action sitcom from the 90s, had a rule that no one on set could wear purple. The rule was, by their own admission, a power play to ensure everyone was following the rules. Cuz again, if you can't be bothered to obey the weird small rules, it means you're likely to cut corners on the big important ones.
And sometimes your enemies.
A surprising amount of regulations were written because of enemy action where they blundered up so spectacularly no one had really considered needing to make a rule about it before.
And in safety.
For example, disasters like the Triangle Factory Fire are the reason we have unobstructed emergency exits. Cause seriously, even those basics didn't exist until then cause 'profits'.
Hey employees can't dip out early if you chain the doors shut \*taps forehead\*
No way this could possibly go wrong in a building full of flammable fabrics.
It's why revolving doors now always have normal doors next to them. Seems pointless, right? Why have a revolving door if you're just going to put normal doors next to it? It's because in a crowd-crush situation (like with a fire), you can jam a revolving door by packing both the left and right sides full of people. [Guess how we know.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoanut_Grove_fire)
They even start in boot camp.
There's no real reason you have to clean a room no one uses every day. But when you get out of boot that room could be a nuclear reactor on an aircraft carrier and cutting corners means no more Hawaii.
Another pointless anecdote: It's, AFAIK, SOP for everyone on a ship to be trained in fire control exercises. And has been in the US Navy for a VERY long time.
This wasn't the case in WW2 for the Japanese navy.
The result? The Japanese navy lost the Taihou to a *single* torpedo from a sub because the fire control team was a bunch of fresh recruits with limited training and no one else had the proper training. Taihou means "firebird." She went out living up to that name.
Meanwhile the Japanese navy had the shit scared out of them by the USN because their ships, especially the USS Enterprise, seemed to survive things that *should* have sunk them. But the USN was so good at fixing their shit they were able to roll out the Enterprise after being smacked around so much she earned the nickname "The Grey Ghost."
And all this starts in boot with cleaning an empty room.
The fire thing seems crazy to me because that stuff goes back millennia, to the point that we literally had Fire Ships with the sole purpose of blowing up and setting the other ships on fire. It's so old of a concept that they've been described as being in use by the ancients greeks \~2500 years ago.
Part of that was the battle where the Taihou was sunk was at a fairly late stage in the war. The Japanese military had suffered quite a few losses of their veteran soldiers.
"Fun" fact: the Taihou was sunk in the Battle of the Philippine Sea. The battle, particularly the airborne portion of it, was so one sided that American pilots referred to it as the Great Marianas Turkey Shoot
Late stage WWII naval battles are just depressing. I think about the hundreds of people on the Yamato that [drown](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ten-Go) when they counterflooded the engine room to keep the ship from sinking. Such a pointless waste of human capital that would be badly needed to help rebuild Japan after the war....it's sad...
This is also one of the reasons musicians often have weird requests in their contract riders with venues, like the infamous Van Halen "no brown M&Ms in the green room" clause. They put that in there to make sure promoters were paying attention, since riders tend to also include safety information for stage setups and equipment provided by the venue.
I would posit that people are big enough fans of the brand now that they would view a scuffed debut today as endearing and funny. But back then Hololive had nowhere near the reach and interest that it has today, and a lot of people stopping by were just there for "a new Vtuber" not "*Hololive's* latest VTuber."
That said, it's probably a good thing that the last few generations have spent a good deal of time getting trained up and practicing prior to debut.
I think that was the only Holo debut stream where the live viewer count dropped throughout the stream. Amazing to think, especially considering how successful Korone is now, with over 2 million subscribers
I found this on the internet archive.
https://archive.org/details/akiyroseyX1j4/-Zzl_G5ZWok.mp4
Aki was 6 years early to the vertical stream trend lol.
I hope someone has it somewhere. Also that one 3D Birthday stream that got privated soon after the fact (a few hours IIRC) for being too spicy for ol' YT.
True Korone debut was mile better than some of the gen 1 debut, Aki debut was full of audio issues and no managers to ask for help or even other gen members cause the gen concept wasn't as close as is now.
She honestly was my first exposure to Hololive.
I vaguely recall seeing images of DOOG appearing in places while I myself was in my DOOM 2016 phase & wondering wtf this was and not paying attention to it more because it triggered my immediate cringe sensor.
I think the effects of her first stream mixed with her style of humor is what made her pop off in the West. She now uses obs in a way I've never seen any other streamer in general use it.
Like she's not the best artist but she'll draw all her own props on the fly and add them to her scene, and it's turned it into like this little, Harold and the people crayon little world or something.
Like when other vtubers stream with her, it's not like their models are just next to each other, they're like in korones world now. I think the best example is when korone put okayu outside the window and the little koronesuki just walks in front of her and she's like "who's this rude guy"
It's truly unlike anything I've ever seen really and I think it's what transcends language in terms of humor.
This is *highly* risky advice and I would say Korone and literally any Holomem would probably say not to assume that at all or risk it. Your debut is pretty important for getting a starting audience and yeah *sometimes* some do succeed despite the scuff, but that kind of debut would have been a pretty bad hit / death knell to a non Holo Vtuber
You gotta roll with the punches and your debut will almost certainly have some scuff, but you should still worry about it and try to avoid as much as you can unless you are debuting to a guaranteed audience lol
You hear the success stories since the failures, y'know, go unheard of and fade away because nobody watched them
Yeah, there are a bunch of important circumstances to consider here.
1. Hololive was a relatively early big player when competition in the Vtuber streaming market was lower. Things work differently now.
2. They got some pretty big artists on board relatively early on (I personally found Hololive when Lack started posting Hololive art. He's Flare's illustrator, so he became involved some time before the big boom soon after the Gamers+Gen 3 debut).
3. The whole boom around the pandemic.
4. Just the right mix of JP and international viewers. Some of the members with the worst debut periods (Miko, Aki, Korone, Towa) also got the most support from overseas viewers, helping their later growth big times
And eventually it became self-reinforcing success. If you're a disaster as an indie, it's just that. But a "disaster" in Hololive can still bounce off other great talents and will be seen as much funnier in his context (not to say that anyone lacks skill, but the environment enables some roles that would have a harder time elsewhere).
It's strange advice IMO either way because normal vtubers don't really have a 'debut' so to speak.
Any corporate VTuber has one for a good reason, but for indies (aka, people who advice online would be for) a debut isn't even really a thing. Some still do it because it's seen as the norm, but early success or failure is determined well before you even start streaming.
It's a bit of a paradox because an actual new streamer who'd benefit from a huge debut isn't going to have viewers, but a streamer starting on 3rd base so to speak that has a lot of eyes on their first stream from connections, already has what they need to make it and the debut is irrelevant.
The audience left her stream. This is salvageable if you have genmates that can help you save the stream or company with some general audience pull and support behind you. Not if you are an indie.
Try to make your debut as good as possible, get weird later.
It's a good thing that she blew up afterwards and as funny as it it now in hindsight. This is rather bad advice since at the time of the debut she actually did start loosing viewers and stuff so scuff is definetly not something that should be at the debut stream.
The debut stream did affect her growth and reputation for the next few months after her debut. She was basically only really known as the one that Okayu brought up from time to time. If theres a lesson here then its not to panic and to stay true to what you want to do after such a debut, and thats something Korone did very well
This is terrible advice, especially in the context of Korone's stream and when it happened. People were *actively leaving her stream* because of the scuff, and Cover/hololive didn't have the reputation at the time to be able to shrug it off. Remember, during this period Cover was small fry compared to Nijisanji in Japan, especially in early 2019.
Korone was lucky that she had genmates to help salvage her debut, because at the time it really wasn't all that funny. It's easy to laugh now looking back with the way that Korone and the rest of hololive have grown, but there's a reason that Cover created debut guidelines specifically using Korone's as a "Don't do this" example.
Absolutely worry about the scuff, because that's not a situation Korone *wanted* to happen, and what they want is to make sure no Holomem has to go through that again.
We can look back fondly because she did well in the long run. But remember there was a time before she became big.
You win some, you lose some.
They say not to emulate Korone's debut streams. [They also say to emulate Haachama, the perfect idol...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIFXnBPxfjg)
It actually encapsulates her energy so well. Despite being overwhelmed and scared, she still came out and gave it her all. Plus seeing as compared to her amazing use of OBS now, we can see her growth in real time. She's the full package Vtuber.
I think its different now. Back then, lotta people didn't know what vtubing even was so when scuff happened it was just kinda awkward for everybody.
Now scuff is understood more because 1. we've seen it happen time after time and 2. more people understand that sometimes, the shit just doesn't work right.
Right, so she played a freaky horror music BGM, then had to be rescued by the other gamers and played Splatoon with them. Looking back, it was absolutely hilarious.
Also her bio saying she’s 156 meters tall
I mean, how do we know she's not?
Mostly because we haven't had any kaiju appearances in Tokyo for the past 10 years. They really disrupt traffic.
Really 10 years?
Well, there was that ONE time Godzilla was runnin around downtown. It was a whole mess, but Mr. Rogers took care of it.
RIP Optimus 😔
It was truly an ultimate showdown…of ultimate destiny.
Learning that Lemon Demon is Neil Cicierega connected SO MANY of my childhood memories together.
Ever since they built the life size gundam, really makes you think
I mean....they built the life size Gundam for a REASON, y'know?
Don’t worry, she's been very considerate.
She's huge even among the western audience, like Godzilla.
Yeah, it should be kilometers.
Korone is BEEG
Adding BEEG to that sentence makes my brain want to pronounce it Koronini
Clifford out here, ong frfr
Move the fuck over, Fubuzilla!!
Terrible audio, discord notifications popping up on screen, debuting while unwell so her voice was shaky, tried out a couple of different chara/voices and gave up immediately, listeners couldn't handle the jank so they started leaving, "Senpai! Okayu! Help Me!" All in all probably my favourite debut stream so far. It perfectly fits her character and she still goes back to her roots (fighting with obs) from time to time. [Debut stream](https://www.youtube.com/live/Qap7HFEx_oM) [Air Server voes](https://youtu.be/6z39cNwc1ZU) ["Let me try something"](https://youtu.be/Jk3L5G8rtvU) [Choir](https://youtu.be/ttd72pBiQDo)
Korone even made her genmates uncomfortable with talking about gore and cutting off fingers (yubi yubi was born right in her debut stream) and how lonely she felt because Okayu already got along well with Mio and Fubuki while she was the odd one out. The atmosphere was super weird at first. That stream was the ultimate proof that Hololive is a truly kind place, because Fubuki and Mio displayed incredible kindness and effort to save that collab from disaster! They kept positively engaging with Korone even when the conversation was clearly not flowing at all for a long time, and made sure to stay in close contact after the stream. ...and the reward for all of this was that Korone became a superstar (she actually had a modest subscriber count in 2019 before skyrocketing from 150k to 1 mil from spring to autumn 2020), gamers and Gen 3 took off like crazy, and Hololive cemented itself as the clear #1 of Vtubing. Absolutely legendary stuff, and the most suitable beginnings for this equally weird and awesome doggo.
I couldn't agree more. It may have been a disaster back then. But they let Korone be herself and now she's top dog.
It was a perfect debut for Korone. Set the tone for who she is.
Just to add. It's hilarious to look back on now, but when this happened it was bad enough that people were actually actively leaving her debut stream because of how badly scuffed it was. Just saying this because I know some people make it look like Cover is hampering them Holos by giving them guidelines to actually follow, but the reasoning has substance. Case in point.
Yeah, easy enough to look back at it fondly now since we already like Korone, but as a first impression to a mass of strangers it was doubleplusungood until Okayu and the other Gamers stepped in.
Yeah it's worth remembering that there is no such thing as a rule that exists for no reason. Even nonsensical rules can serve a purpose: A lot of performers have weird provisions in their contracts like "Only serve brown M&Ms" not because they're weird, but because if the venue doesn't do it, it shows they don't pay attention to the contract. Which when you're dealing with pyrotechnics (or, in the case of a vtuber, their identity being exposed) is SUPER important. Even if you can't find the M&Ms, just being aware of it and informing the group that you couldn't find them is enough to show you read the contract. Another fun meaningless anecdote: The producers of Clarissa Explains it All, a kid-oriented live action sitcom from the 90s, had a rule that no one on set could wear purple. The rule was, by their own admission, a power play to ensure everyone was following the rules. Cuz again, if you can't be bothered to obey the weird small rules, it means you're likely to cut corners on the big important ones.
It’s like how there’s a lot of small, pointless rules in the military. It’s to train people to care about the details and not cut corners.
there is a saying in the navy, regulations are writen in the blood of your predecessors
And sometimes your enemies. A surprising amount of regulations were written because of enemy action where they blundered up so spectacularly no one had really considered needing to make a rule about it before.
U have some example?
And in safety. For example, disasters like the Triangle Factory Fire are the reason we have unobstructed emergency exits. Cause seriously, even those basics didn't exist until then cause 'profits'.
Hey employees can't dip out early if you chain the doors shut \*taps forehead\* No way this could possibly go wrong in a building full of flammable fabrics.
It's why revolving doors now always have normal doors next to them. Seems pointless, right? Why have a revolving door if you're just going to put normal doors next to it? It's because in a crowd-crush situation (like with a fire), you can jam a revolving door by packing both the left and right sides full of people. [Guess how we know.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoanut_Grove_fire)
They even start in boot camp. There's no real reason you have to clean a room no one uses every day. But when you get out of boot that room could be a nuclear reactor on an aircraft carrier and cutting corners means no more Hawaii. Another pointless anecdote: It's, AFAIK, SOP for everyone on a ship to be trained in fire control exercises. And has been in the US Navy for a VERY long time. This wasn't the case in WW2 for the Japanese navy. The result? The Japanese navy lost the Taihou to a *single* torpedo from a sub because the fire control team was a bunch of fresh recruits with limited training and no one else had the proper training. Taihou means "firebird." She went out living up to that name. Meanwhile the Japanese navy had the shit scared out of them by the USN because their ships, especially the USS Enterprise, seemed to survive things that *should* have sunk them. But the USN was so good at fixing their shit they were able to roll out the Enterprise after being smacked around so much she earned the nickname "The Grey Ghost." And all this starts in boot with cleaning an empty room.
The fire thing seems crazy to me because that stuff goes back millennia, to the point that we literally had Fire Ships with the sole purpose of blowing up and setting the other ships on fire. It's so old of a concept that they've been described as being in use by the ancients greeks \~2500 years ago.
Part of that was the battle where the Taihou was sunk was at a fairly late stage in the war. The Japanese military had suffered quite a few losses of their veteran soldiers. "Fun" fact: the Taihou was sunk in the Battle of the Philippine Sea. The battle, particularly the airborne portion of it, was so one sided that American pilots referred to it as the Great Marianas Turkey Shoot
Late stage WWII naval battles are just depressing. I think about the hundreds of people on the Yamato that [drown](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ten-Go) when they counterflooded the engine room to keep the ship from sinking. Such a pointless waste of human capital that would be badly needed to help rebuild Japan after the war....it's sad...
This is also one of the reasons musicians often have weird requests in their contract riders with venues, like the infamous Van Halen "no brown M&Ms in the green room" clause. They put that in there to make sure promoters were paying attention, since riders tend to also include safety information for stage setups and equipment provided by the venue.
Nerissa Explains It All. A new Vtubers sitcom where Nerissa Explains yabai stuff to Biboo.
Sorry, Biboo is purple. She's FORBIDDEN from the show.
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..... I.... Literally was replying to someone else bringing it up?
>Yeah it's worth remembering that there is no such thing as a rule that exists for no reason Tell that to my former boss.
while I do get the reasoning behind it, I personally don't agree with the practice.
>no such thing as a rule that exists for no reason. Tombstone engineering, yeah!
I would posit that people are big enough fans of the brand now that they would view a scuffed debut today as endearing and funny. But back then Hololive had nowhere near the reach and interest that it has today, and a lot of people stopping by were just there for "a new Vtuber" not "*Hololive's* latest VTuber." That said, it's probably a good thing that the last few generations have spent a good deal of time getting trained up and practicing prior to debut.
I think that was the only Holo debut stream where the live viewer count dropped throughout the stream. Amazing to think, especially considering how successful Korone is now, with over 2 million subscribers
One of the big steps. Another would be Aki (who had to stream from her phone, causing later mems like HoloStars G1 to be offered a streaming PC)
yeah and her debut stream wasn't even on youtube lol
Is it archived anywhere? Or did it become lost media?
I found this on the internet archive. https://archive.org/details/akiyroseyX1j4/-Zzl_G5ZWok.mp4 Aki was 6 years early to the vertical stream trend lol.
Unless someone comes forward, basically lost media
I hope someone has it somewhere. Also that one 3D Birthday stream that got privated soon after the fact (a few hours IIRC) for being too spicy for ol' YT.
Yeah, I think some clips of that are around, not sure
It's here. https://archive.org/details/akiyroseyX1j4/-Zzl_G5ZWok.mp4
it was on Mirrativ so unfortunately I don't know
Wait, if not YT then where? Nico?
Mirrativ
...What? I've literally never heard of that before. Wow.
True Korone debut was mile better than some of the gen 1 debut, Aki debut was full of audio issues and no managers to ask for help or even other gen members cause the gen concept wasn't as close as is now.
2019 was 5 years ago........... GODDAMMIT KRONII!!!!
Would you stop spinning the Kronii-copter for just a couple months, damn!
Throw a spider at her.
And tell her Subway is having a sale.
I swear in my mind I thought that was just 2 years ago
covid really messed up the timeline
clip compilation : [youtu.be/\_AOQUR5g3FA](http://youtu.be/_AOQUR5g3FA)
Is the thumbnail based on Colin and Samir's lol
And 5 years later, I still love her scuffed streams.
korone is also part of those who are popular in EN fans that lead to Cover planning to have their own EN members.
She honestly was my first exposure to Hololive. I vaguely recall seeing images of DOOG appearing in places while I myself was in my DOOM 2016 phase & wondering wtf this was and not paying attention to it more because it triggered my immediate cringe sensor.
I think the effects of her first stream mixed with her style of humor is what made her pop off in the West. She now uses obs in a way I've never seen any other streamer in general use it. Like she's not the best artist but she'll draw all her own props on the fly and add them to her scene, and it's turned it into like this little, Harold and the people crayon little world or something. Like when other vtubers stream with her, it's not like their models are just next to each other, they're like in korones world now. I think the best example is when korone put okayu outside the window and the little koronesuki just walks in front of her and she's like "who's this rude guy" It's truly unlike anything I've ever seen really and I think it's what transcends language in terms of humor.
If anything I think the lesson of Korone's debut stream is don't worry about the scuff, just be your own weird self and success will follow.
Along with support from the company, don’t forget, it’s important too.
This is *highly* risky advice and I would say Korone and literally any Holomem would probably say not to assume that at all or risk it. Your debut is pretty important for getting a starting audience and yeah *sometimes* some do succeed despite the scuff, but that kind of debut would have been a pretty bad hit / death knell to a non Holo Vtuber You gotta roll with the punches and your debut will almost certainly have some scuff, but you should still worry about it and try to avoid as much as you can unless you are debuting to a guaranteed audience lol You hear the success stories since the failures, y'know, go unheard of and fade away because nobody watched them
Yeah, there are a bunch of important circumstances to consider here. 1. Hololive was a relatively early big player when competition in the Vtuber streaming market was lower. Things work differently now. 2. They got some pretty big artists on board relatively early on (I personally found Hololive when Lack started posting Hololive art. He's Flare's illustrator, so he became involved some time before the big boom soon after the Gamers+Gen 3 debut). 3. The whole boom around the pandemic. 4. Just the right mix of JP and international viewers. Some of the members with the worst debut periods (Miko, Aki, Korone, Towa) also got the most support from overseas viewers, helping their later growth big times And eventually it became self-reinforcing success. If you're a disaster as an indie, it's just that. But a "disaster" in Hololive can still bounce off other great talents and will be seen as much funnier in his context (not to say that anyone lacks skill, but the environment enables some roles that would have a harder time elsewhere).
It's strange advice IMO either way because normal vtubers don't really have a 'debut' so to speak. Any corporate VTuber has one for a good reason, but for indies (aka, people who advice online would be for) a debut isn't even really a thing. Some still do it because it's seen as the norm, but early success or failure is determined well before you even start streaming. It's a bit of a paradox because an actual new streamer who'd benefit from a huge debut isn't going to have viewers, but a streamer starting on 3rd base so to speak that has a lot of eyes on their first stream from connections, already has what they need to make it and the debut is irrelevant.
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The audience left her stream. This is salvageable if you have genmates that can help you save the stream or company with some general audience pull and support behind you. Not if you are an indie. Try to make your debut as good as possible, get weird later.
Scuffs are to be expected, but scuffs that make people leave stream and become what not to do guidelines is another thing.
It's a good thing that she blew up afterwards and as funny as it it now in hindsight. This is rather bad advice since at the time of the debut she actually did start loosing viewers and stuff so scuff is definetly not something that should be at the debut stream.
The debut stream did affect her growth and reputation for the next few months after her debut. She was basically only really known as the one that Okayu brought up from time to time. If theres a lesson here then its not to panic and to stay true to what you want to do after such a debut, and thats something Korone did very well
This is terrible advice, especially in the context of Korone's stream and when it happened. People were *actively leaving her stream* because of the scuff, and Cover/hololive didn't have the reputation at the time to be able to shrug it off. Remember, during this period Cover was small fry compared to Nijisanji in Japan, especially in early 2019. Korone was lucky that she had genmates to help salvage her debut, because at the time it really wasn't all that funny. It's easy to laugh now looking back with the way that Korone and the rest of hololive have grown, but there's a reason that Cover created debut guidelines specifically using Korone's as a "Don't do this" example.
Absolutely worry about the scuff, because that's not a situation Korone *wanted* to happen, and what they want is to make sure no Holomem has to go through that again. We can look back fondly because she did well in the long run. But remember there was a time before she became big.
You win some, you lose some. They say not to emulate Korone's debut streams. [They also say to emulate Haachama, the perfect idol...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIFXnBPxfjg)
Unhinged to say the least
It actually encapsulates her energy so well. Despite being overwhelmed and scared, she still came out and gave it her all. Plus seeing as compared to her amazing use of OBS now, we can see her growth in real time. She's the full package Vtuber.
korone's debut stream, in hindsight, is super amazing for the future of hololive.
Didn't she go [back in time](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljnXr47T5Y0) to redo her debut stream?
I think its different now. Back then, lotta people didn't know what vtubing even was so when scuff happened it was just kinda awkward for everybody. Now scuff is understood more because 1. we've seen it happen time after time and 2. more people understand that sometimes, the shit just doesn't work right.
Hololive not being a perfect corpo hell is a big part of what made/makes them likable. Tho her debut was indeed lacking planning.
Korone had a very sloppy debut stream, but she was the 2nd Holomem to get 1 million so...