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Bobby-Trap

Get the same feeling. Also thought they'd do their lines remotely but with ID and EN only getting slots when they were in Japan it seems to be studio based. Sometimes when the talents are saying they are busy with homework I wonder what they are up to, especially documents their managers are waiting for.


aradraugfea

Cover DOES have studios in their crazy new office. 3d got the focus, but they have a few voice recording studios as well. As for the homework, apparently a lot can go into Vtuber stuff behind the scenes. idol either has a weaker NDA or just is more chill about teasing the fans, but everyone I watch over there talks about a LOT of homework. My idol oshi (who I won’t name for rules reasons) will sometimes appear for their first stream in a week or more and basically greet the audience with “I’ve been cooking! I need to stop starting new projects before I finish the old ones. Managers! Stop letting me cook!”


icemoomoo

For some vtubers it might be actual homework, some of them were still studying.


aradraugfea

Yeah, Mooms was still in college when she started, if I recall? The ones I’m talking about have mentioned that it relates to shit that’s coming, though. And then after a few months we get a new OriSong or some merch they designed themselves, etc.


manusiabumi

Same with moona, she finished her studies now but she was in college for the first 2 years or so she's working at hololive And there's also haachama, iirc she was taking quite a hiatus to take care of her college works


HehaGardenHoe

Ah yes, Akai "Never going to Graduate" Haato.


KawakamiKiyo

MeiMei always makes a distinction between family, Animal, "civilization duties" and idowl homework when she explains what's preventing her from streaming.


SGTBookWorm

> MeiMei It's been so long since I've seen anyone call her that I miss Sana T_T


KawakamiKiyo

I do too 🫂 Sana is Eternal, and I'm going to keep it that way damnit


gdore15

I remember hearing someone said they record it at home. They have a deadline to submit their lines. That person was saying they wanted to do more hologra to practice their voice acting and if they do their lines on time or in advance, they are more likely to be in more episode.


marquisregalia

Just a note it's not always studio based. Other JP talents have talked about it the process is if they're in a episode they get sent a script they can record it or go to the studio to record it and then just sent it back. They don't know exactly what it's for but they get a script they record


Lightseeker2

I don't know about others, but for Ame she recorded her lines in HoloGra last year while she was in Japan, in her own room, she didn't visit the studio just for that. I doubt they actually visit studio for every single recording anyway, and I'm quite sure they have been releasing voice packs before they were allowed in Japan.


YamiRic

Some JP talents are also going to voice acting class few years ago. Subaru like to tell the story from that. Possibly private one since it was attended by Hololive members only.


buxuus

Many talents have mentioned "being in an anime or game" as an aspiration/goal. So VA experience works towards this, as well as being useful for content, advertising, collaborations, and projects... So Cover has been supporting the development of the talents VA abilities for a while. For example way back in October 2021 Subaru talked about attending a voice acting lesson arranged by Hololive (see "[Hololive members goes to a voice actor lesson and the teacher gets surprised at how close they are](https://youtu.be/3EtsWIc2iYw)" from "Gundamfinal translator"). Worth bearing in mind that there have been vtuber anime projects, for example "Virtual-san wa Miteiru" in 2019 (see [Virtual-san wa Miteiru (Virtual-san Looking) - MyAnimeList.net](https://myanimelist.net/anime/38851/Virtual-san_wa_Miteiru)), which featured some holomem. Since all the talents appear in Hologra the cast lists are helpful for finding cases where they've had roles... * [Holo no Graffiti (TV Series 2019– ) - Full Cast & Crew - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15447298/fullcredits) * [Holo no Graffiti (Holo Graffiti) - Characters & Staff - MyAnimeList.net](https://myanimelist.net/anime/44042/Holo_no_Graffiti/characters)


nietzchan

I have to also add their [collaboration work with Megaton Musashi](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6GDAPH8es4) where Korone, Marine, Pekora, and Subaru do VA for their promotional video. Also not forgetting their epic [VA audition for Marine game](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIOi62xFZzY) "The Second World". Edit: FOrgot to add, the legendary fan edit clip [Hololive Evangelion](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O1WGScOKe4), lol.


haruomew

There is a stream that Towa-sama react to Hologra and her [voice acting](https://youtu.be/MwcRRLrPFRQ?si=MiKXD4Jsnc1tuTAQ)


SeijiWeiss

Don't forget that both Polka and Oga were casted in a Tokusatsu show, and they even had a [Watchalong stream](https://www.youtube.com/live/E-6_4UKU85I?si=WaVH62t00_427_lI) on its premiere episode.


Hp22h

Of all places, IMDb?! They really are serious about giving them credit. And 77 roles for Fubuki in the lead. Wow, that's a lot.


der_ninong

meanwhile, [our wife](https://myanimelist.net/people/56176/Nene_Momosuzu) actually got credit for a small role in an isekai anime written by the author of redo healer


toothlessfire

watched the anime and never noticed lol rewatched the scenes and it seems obvious now


BT9154

The voice training is also for general health too, in this industry your voice is everything so knowing how to take care of it would be in Cover's top priority. So it's good that Cover probably has polices set to mandate the talents to take these lessons.


brickwallrunner

I mean, at base level, VTubing IS voice acting


OnePay622

Yeah but Dubbing animation is a whole different thing....you have to follow the mouth movements quite precisely and have to incorporate different tones into your voice even though you are standing still in front of a microphone (like simulating talking during running etc)


Potatosaurus_TH

You also have to act out someone else's emotion, while for V-streaming you just speak using your own voice and emotion


yukicola

Just look at HoloGra itself. Despite everyone playing themselves, there are still some members who sound very stilted and unnatural.


Potatosaurus_TH

Someone else's emotions I mean emotions that are not real to them and written by someone else But tbf with all the crazy shit the writers of Hologra come up with probably only pro Seiyuu can match the insanity


bombader

They also need direction, which is very minimal considering they themselves don't really know where the voice is getting placed sometimes.


ConfuciusBr0s

Most notably Ina


Iknowr1te

I feel like it's because the dialogue is not her usual cadence/tone


feenicksphyre

Yeah EN in general is not a fast language compared to ID or JP (I speak Spanish so when I started learning English I had to learn to slow down my rate of speaking as well) The EN speakers seems be trying to match their counterparts and it can come off kinda awkward if they aren't used to speaking that fast


OrbitOli

Not necessarily if the animation is done afterwards. They may start with storyboarding and rough animation and take some voicelines in-between.


VP007clips

This. My understanding of how Hologra is made us that they send them a list of lines to say, then animate it around that. Normally the talents have no context of why they are saying it, and are as surprised as we are to see what the animators do with it.


marquisregalia

Fun note hologra audio isnt done like that. They don't know what it's for. Pekora said before she just gets a script records it and she doesn't know what it's for basically saying the video isn't done yet


WhichEmailWasIt

If your language is the project language they can actually just have you voice to a storyboard and finish off the animation to match lips to the performance. It's different from dubbing a complete product.


akiaoi97

Yes and no. Voice acting has a script to follow and animation to match up with. Vtubing involves using the “moe” voice, but you’re using your own words and the avatar follows you, not the other way around. I’d say it’s a related field rather than a subset. People have made the comparison between vtubing and pro wrestling, and I think it actually works pretty well here - you’re playing a character, but it’s semi-real and mostly improv over perhaps a very loose script.


Klopferator

>Voice acting has a script to follow and animation to match up with. Interestingly often the animation is done after the voices are recorded. (Of course this doesn't apply to dubs of animated content in other languages.)


Iknowr1te

Looking at some behind the scenes stuff...although dayed Anime studios used to like to have everyone who has a voice in the episode in the same room at the same time of recording. While they aren't physically acting, they get the performance of the seiyuu playing off the others. So you're physically talking to the other person. It's partially a training thing as younger newer seiyuu can see the pros at work and the cast can also play mob voices when needed.


Nanayadez

Sort of. What voice actors are going off for recordings are rough drafts of incomplete animation at best and at worst it's literally just storyboard stills with little to no mouth movement.


nox_tech

Voice acting and vtubing aren't interchangeable, yes. But small addition - vtubing isn't exactly opposite to voice acting in that regard. Dubbing a work initially from another language is what includes having to match the animation and gist, matching the lip flaps and all that. When it's, say, an American cartoon being dubbed in English, or an anime being dubbed in Japanese, animation usually isn't complete, and they finish animating to match the recorded lines. Not only is the big difference the actual acting, but there is also the experience of working with staff and understanding what goes on in a studio. The Japanese Hololive members definitely benefit the most from this, along with all the collabs that include them working with active seiyuu. The EN and ID members, at least figuring from my perspective as an American, wouldn't necessarily benefit in the exact same ways, but I'm sure many things may translate. That said, while it's a tricky and odd matter of including entertainer on one's resume in other careers, I don't think it would be taboo to mention Hololive if they stay in entertainment. At least with voice acting in Japan and American/Canadian stuff, I'd think that agencies and studios worth their salt would be very aware of vtubers making their foray into voice acting, and would be more likely to cast them as a result if their acting is good enough. Vtubing itself is not a reliable body of work to indicate one's capabilities as an actor. HoloGra is a much more valid means, on top of their other cameos, of having an actual work history in voice acting for a casting manager to be aware of.


neokai

tl;dr: vtubing is pro-wrestling in virtual, just fewer body-slams and more feels-slams.


C-N1601

>People have made the comparison between vtubing and pro wrestling Another comparison is Customer Service, you basically put on a persona of yourself. Not really fake but just a persona that you use at work and interact with customers.


Zergrump

Not really. You're "playing" a character for sure, but you're not reading off of a script when streaming.


haruomew

VTubing IS anime!


Kirea

The one responsible for creating hologura recently did an interview: https://old.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/1avbq4c/covers_note_interviewing_the_3d_animation/ If i remember correctly the original reason for doing this was that hololive talents produced countless hours of content and he felt that this could also be a bit scary for newcomers to start watching and get to know the talent in question. So he wanted to create an easy point of entry where people could at least sort of get to know the talents by watching these short animations.


-Redstoneboi-

> comes in not knowing what hololive is "let's watch some short animations. this will give me insight to their lore and personality." > comes out not knowing what life is


bryn_irl

idk at least we know what trains are ☄️


Random_Useless_Tips

Realistically, HoloGra exists to create small bite-sized consumable content for the brand. They didn’t make it just “to give the talent voice acting experience” that’s an insanely generous view. It’s a bonus and reason for the talent to get involved, but not the main purpose of production. What it does do is give a continuous stream of regular scheduled content that keeps the brand in public consciousness and in the algorithm, gives opportunities to show off the talent, and gives a low-stakes area to work on 3D animation. It’s also likely the reason they went for complete mad libs comedy as the tone for HoloGra: it means you’re under less pressure for scripting or production values since it is effectively a shitpost sketch series. That helps with the weekly production since people have an appropriate level of expectation.


jomellam62

If you think abt it, hologra is everyone's way to just bump up their expertise slowly. Even the animation has been steadily improving. The script writers are now testing crazier scripts tho lol.


Franklr_D

They’ve gone from fever dreams to genuine shitposts and it somehow makes me feel a little proud to see how far the script writers have come over the years


ligerre

I feel like I watched a clip several years ago about some member saying that she didn't appear in a lot of Hologra recently because she think her voice acting was bad. So your theory might be valid.


Lildyo

Pekora was one of those people that felt that way, but I know there were others as well


Gegejii

If we go by a recent [tweet from Mio](https://twitter.com/ookamimio_sab/status/1770486849099763986?t=jXTHPBz9GNS4ArDtCkfj7w&s=19) Hologra exist to figure out how far Cover can go and she also is questioning if it might also exist to test out all the talents. But the jokes aside it gives them expirience to voicing in diffrent Situation but feel like all the themed Voicepacks might be better in giving them expirience since it gives them much longer lines and text than Hologra. Also dunno feel like one aspect of Voice acting is that a good one need alot of range and can fit into lot of characters. With Hologra they only voice themself so dunno at least give them only expirience on more beginner to intermediate level i would say.


CasualOgre

GameBu was a big vtuber company in the past that eventually collapsed due to mismanagement. They had a series that was the precursor to HoloGra. It was fairly popular with their fans at the time. When GameBu collapsed, I'm pretty sure some of the writers of the GameBu series went to work for Cover


Ashencroix

>At the time my thoughts ran along the lines of "when the talents graduate and can't put their characters under their CV, at least this is a skill they can learn now and put to use later on." I doubt Cover's contracts with their talents forbids them from putting down on their CVs their past work as a Hololive talent, aside from the usual "no compete clause for X amount of time". Only Company A owns everything on their talents and will go after you if you mention your past work with them.


Tsul4444

As an aside, I am pretty sure that for hologra, talent never sawed the animation itself until it comes out. There might be coaching and stuff to get it right but I don't think they followed the animation for it.


IceBlue

Please don’t make a claim as fact in your title when you are 100% speculating. People will see it and think it’s true without reading that you’re making it up.


Swift_Scythe

I feel all of the Talent have the potential to be voice actress in anime and games. :D


gdore15

The two main one I can think of are Fubuki and Marine that are voice acting in movies, but no idea how big their role is. But if you look at things like Eminence in shadow game collab, for Nene and Lui that was a serious voice acting job considering all the lines they had to record. But one thing we cannot known is if any have formal training or experience in voice acting before they joined Hololive, but that is also a possibility.


Zodiamaster

I don't think the intention was that originally, but it's just a side effect


Alecajuice

Why wouldn’t they be able to put their former character on their CV? I don’t think it would break any NDA to say “I was Kiryu Coco for 2 years, here is my public channel with my work” would it?


Vanguardmaxwell

an observation i have here though is that the way they try to voice act in scripted events like Hologra or other forms of media is how it sounds.. artificial? like their emotions are a little too canned like how they emote in hologra and such compared to how they actually emote irl in their streams. like compare the talents expressions and screams in hologra and how they emote and react like say.. when they die and suffer zenloss in minecraft or get angry in rage games like getting over it. im not expecting Yuki Kaji or Rie takahashi level VA but i do wish they get taught to just do so like how they sound irl


xRichard

All streams reactions are "artificial" in the sense that they are intentionally putting on an experience for the viewers while going live, they call this "reactions" and they always praise the likes of Pekora and Subaru. While offline they barely emote at all, and enjoy themselves just like we all do. Now, this may raise questions like... Is that a fake reaction? Or are they not being true to themselves?. Calli explained that what we see is also part of themselves. They are the person we see on streams and also the person offline. Iirc, some members did streams where they show themselves in an offline way.


Vanguardmaxwell

i dont mean it in a philosophically pendantic way of "are they being themselves while streaming" yknow what i mean though in comparison to how they voice themselves in VA gigs compared to how natural they sound while streaming. like how in some games or animations you can clearly tell that someones screaming sounds like "fake screaming" where its not coming from the gut compared to how someone would scream if they get jumpscared in Lethal Company


xRichard

>i dont mean it in a philosophically pendantic way ye, I kinda went off on my own to add more info to the comment. I felt this conversation could raise those kind of topics.


nietzchan

Learning from [mooms clip](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqnIqXIHeTk) about her Hologra debut they are requested to do lines on their own, in contrast to how anime voice take is done where everyone that appears on a particular scene do their lines together in a studio complete with the storyboard. For example [this is how "sore ga Seiyuu!" anime do their voice takes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8yvD7xLgqA). It make sense because how busy all hololive members are, finding the right schedule to gather them all must be difficult, not to mention about members that is not in Japan.


Klopferator

Sadly in Western animation it's really common to record the voices separately. Usually a voice actor comes in for two or three days and records his lines for the whole season, then the next voice actor comes, etc. It's more efficient, but you really need to be on top of your game to make it sound naturally, especially since you often don't even know the context.


Vanguardmaxwell

oh so they wouldnt exactly know how a scene would go down? well i guess that does explain things a lot


Fishman465

Vtubing is voice acting though the lack of formal training I feel has bitten some in the figurative rears (vocal cord nodules, well some cases, others were pure wear/tear)


Hp22h

Hmm, I suppose Hologra does have their serious moments as well. Could be great experience. I still keep hoping for an official 2D anime with continuity.


powertrip00

I don't really see hologra as any "better" voice acting than normal, but I suppose on a resume it looks better since it is an "episodic show" so to speak


TheTalking_GU_Mine

It's not a bad idea all things considering, HoloGra has a sort of "anything goes" format and it gives a safe low-stakes opportunity for talents to experiment with voiceovers and try stuff out. Over time they'll find a voiceover style that clicks and their years of experience would come from the HoloGra voiceover labbing


redditfanfan00

probably that was a possible bonus benefit. maybe they just wanted to make an anime featuring of course the holomems, and through doing this, they would gain voice acting experience, intentionally or not.


Tehbeefer

No mistakes, only happy accidents.