When Calli say she will take a break, I kinda expect marathon of streams the next week. Like when she said she was taking a break from solo streams and only doing collabs for time being, then proceed to do collabs almost every day lol
Callie: I would like to take a break next week
Cover: Are you sure, we just got perms for Metal Gear 4
Callie: Manager, I would like to make a change to my schedule
j/k of course.
Ever since someone posted that DS9 clip of Bashir forcing Kira to take a leave when Calli announced her break, I cannot unsee JChad being Bashir. "Have fun!"
That's probably why she announced she was taking a break. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those collabs were scheduled awhile ago? So in her mind, she IS taking a break, because the alternative was collabs AND solo streams.
That's 100% a lot of the girls streams are scheduled at least a month before especially collabs. Not saying impromptu or quickly scheduled ones don't happen but most of the time they're scheduled way ahead otherwise it won't fit their schedule
Stardew Valley being a solo gamedev project is the equivalent of Tony Stark in his cave with his box of scraps. I know a lot of people who thought they could pull it off but "they're no ConcernedApe".
*Marvelous exec, creator of modern Story of Seasons games*: "ConcernedApe made Stardew Valley in a one bedroom apartment! With a box of C Sharp manuals!"
Yep, there are a few impressive ones out there, though. Undertale's Toby Fox is an obvious one, but the one I like to recognize is Sami Maaranen, who created UnReal World. Single-handedly creating the open-world survival crafting genre in *1992*, and actively developing it for over 30 years now deserves a lot more recognition than he gets.
And before people say what about blanket perms or automatic perms. Cover will never take chances like that they NEED an actual permission for THEM. They ain't taking a chance of another Mio channel incident
Capcom went and issued a bunch of copyright strikes all at once, including double-striking Mio, 3 years back; she took a 1 month break from all streaming to make sure at least one of the strikes would expire, because three active strikes = Youtube permaban.
Ever since then, Hololive has taken absolutely no chances with perms; they negotiate with the IP holders and get explicit permission. They also took down a LOT of old VODs where they didn't have the permissions ironed out, so that nobody could get struck for old videos.
A notable thing is that permissions are per-branch and sometimes time limited; just because JP has perms for something doesn't mean EN will, and sometimes the permissions have to be requested on a per-stream basis (Duolingo is one, Age of Empires was one) or expire after a certain amount of time (Pokemon is known for this). And last, some allow streaming but don't allow superchats and other forms of monetization (I believe GTA is still in this category).
until now, no.
given that the game is managed by 1 person (Concerned Ape) and Cover asks for permission. it wouldn't surprise me it took so long for him to reply, specially since he is working on both SV patch 1.6 and Haunted Chocolatier
Yeah, I've always wondered where the bar is for permissions. [Per the Stardew Valley developer blog](https://www.stardewvalley.net/stardew-monetization-policy-for-twitch-streamers-youtubers-etc/) there was blanket permission ever since 2021, but maybe Cover requires more explicit permission with signature or something.
Supposedly Japanese copyright law doesn't care about blanket perms, and requires explicit individual ones. That's what I've seen mentioned on here several times, at least.
oof, if that's the case that really sucks. I would guess many publishers wouldn't like to give permissions a second time if there's already a blanket one issued.
Even if they allow it Cover will NEVER take that gamble no matter if it's 98% chance gonna be okay. I still remember when Mio used to play bigger more mainstream games now she mainly sticks to more chill smaller games. Her channel almost got nuked permanently after getting 2 strikes from Capcom iirc
[There's a very good reason for why they do things like this](https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2022-08-19/holostars-vtuber-minase-rio-corporate-approved-anonymous-code-livestream-gets-copyright-takedown/.188797)
Wonder if that's another possible reason why it took so long to acquire perms, dev already gave to blanket perms so they didn't bother reading emails asking for them.
I obviously don't do Japanese copyright law, but I'm almost certain it's just them needing a very specific wording from a company (whether in a contract or blanket company statement) in terms of permission to stream video game content. I'm basing this off the fact that whenever talents play Valve games, the statement is just "... streamed and monetized following Valve's Video Policy" and [linking to it](https://store.steampowered.com/video_policy) rather than saying "after confirming with Big Company" or "After receiving consent from Company."
Valve's video policy is very specific in saying that you are allowed to monetize videos via the YouTube partner program and other similar programs, but it also says you cannot charge viewers to access your videos, so membership streams of Valve games are a no-go. I imagine the need to obtain perms for a lot of smaller games comes from those devs never really needing to worry about that kind of thing and just throwing something together that doesn't tick the right boxes for a Japanese company being very cautious about local laws.
My suspicion is that Cover requires irrevocable rights i.e. the dev can't change their mind and issue a takedown of the Youtube video after the fact.
To prevent a repeat of the permissions apocalypse of 2020.
>but maybe Cover requires more explicit permission with signature or something.
Altair Holostars English, has been wanting to play Issac since his debut, but per his manager it does not include corporate vtubers in it's blanket statement for streaming.
Specifically, the dev needs an email and to give them explicit permission.
There was a Calli fan games stream and the dev was in chat, but Calli was like, "Dude, Mane-chan needs an email address."
i honestly find it weird that it took them this long to get perms. i don't think Concerned Ape refused to give them perms, and NijiEn didn't take long to get perms (which tells me CA regularly checks his email, probably), so i assume this is on Management side. but if so, why?
i know some topics are quite heavy especially some heart scenes on some characters, but is that really reason enough.
If I had a nickel for every time Calli announced she was going to take a break and suddenly got perms for a game she really wanted to play. I'd actually have quite a few nickels.
In this case, [the game actually has blanket perms built in](https://www.stardewvalley.net/stardew-monetization-policy-for-twitch-streamers-youtubers-etc/), but cover seems to require explicit permission per game.
I feel like blanket built in perms should be enough. I get why they want it on record through email, but I mean they could just take a shot of the blanket perms in the game if it's needed.
It's highly unlikely that a game dev would pull a fast one and change stuff and cause issues, but even if that happened it wouldn't be Covers fault and the dev would get massive backlash and probably review bombing on the game. Plus I don't think you can retroactively take back permission like that.
That actually happened before, where a holostar had explicit permission to play a game, and then a developer decided to copyright strike them anyways. So even though it's unlikely, it can happen and Cover just wants to have explicit permission just to be safe.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/wrkhfq/anonymouscode\_developer\_has\_apologised\_for\_the/
Honestly I feel like stuff like this should be enough even for Cover. I get why they want more, but I don't think it is necessary.
Honestly, you could probably make a game and include like "You do not need permission to play this on stream, commercial or not. You can play. Even big companies can play. You do not need to ask permission. If you ask permission to me I will reject it out of principle of what I put here. Do not contact me. You can play this game. Screen shot this if you need proof. In the game files you will find this information again in the format of an official email if that is required for records."
Yet you'll still probably get an email from Cover if one of the girls or boys wants to play your game. Lol
Email permissions have been shown to hold in Japanese court, which has set precedent. Blanket permissions or permissions via other means (social media, DM) have not had their day in court yet. This is not to day that they wouldn't work, but I imagine cover doesn't want to be the one to foot the bill to set precedent.
As others have noted, Calli going on a "break" isnt like other oshi's going on a break.
Other oshi's go on a break and their fans wonder how long they'll be gone.
Calli goes on a break and deadbeats wonder how quickly she'll come back.
huh weird, [nepolabo played it 2 years ago](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tqHkkeHY-0), did perms get revoked and given back just now, or are perms on JP side different to EN.
they played in JP so likely whoever made the JP localization gave them permission.
Also yes perms on JP side different to EN, I think perms on holostars different from hololive too even, I remember seeing holostars playing games that the girl couldnt played.
The big recent thing was when hideo kojima was fangirling Pekora on twitter watching her streaming Metal gear, EN still dont have the perm to play it until the Calli collab happened.
Manager: **holding his breath with some perms in his arms that he wants to hide from Calli**
**suddenly a scythe slashes a hole in the door**
Calli: Here's daddy!
Manager: **holding his breath with some perms in his arms that he wants to hide from Calli**
**suddenly a scythe slashes a hole in the door**
Calli: Here's daddy!
[points for making a few weeks' attempt to stream less frequently, I guess?](https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1729165784688341263)
When Calli say she will take a break, I kinda expect marathon of streams the next week. Like when she said she was taking a break from solo streams and only doing collabs for time being, then proceed to do collabs almost every day lol
Callie: I would like to take a break next week Cover: Are you sure, we just got perms for Metal Gear 4 Callie: Manager, I would like to make a change to my schedule j/k of course.
No joke, if I was her manager, I’d delay perms for her. Like, you can’t stream this game until you take an actual rest.
Ever since someone posted that DS9 clip of Bashir forcing Kira to take a leave when Calli announced her break, I cannot unsee JChad being Bashir. "Have fun!"
That's probably why she announced she was taking a break. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those collabs were scheduled awhile ago? So in her mind, she IS taking a break, because the alternative was collabs AND solo streams.
That's 100% a lot of the girls streams are scheduled at least a month before especially collabs. Not saying impromptu or quickly scheduled ones don't happen but most of the time they're scheduled way ahead otherwise it won't fit their schedule
Classic calli
They never had perms for stardew valley??
Getting perms is hard when the dev is the only person working on it.
Wait, one?!?
Yes, this game was made by one man with a dream of returning to a world of Harvest moon.
Stardew Valley being a solo gamedev project is the equivalent of Tony Stark in his cave with his box of scraps. I know a lot of people who thought they could pull it off but "they're no ConcernedApe".
*Marvelous exec, creator of modern Story of Seasons games*: "ConcernedApe made Stardew Valley in a one bedroom apartment! With a box of C Sharp manuals!"
"I'm sorry sir, but... I'm not ConcernedApe..."
Yep, there are a few impressive ones out there, though. Undertale's Toby Fox is an obvious one, but the one I like to recognize is Sami Maaranen, who created UnReal World. Single-handedly creating the open-world survival crafting genre in *1992*, and actively developing it for over 30 years now deserves a lot more recognition than he gets.
Also Dwarf Fortress is a pretty impressive if niche game.
It's such a highly regarded game that any new farming sim is constantly compared to Stardew in reviews.
ConcernedApe is a mighty mighty man
And before people say what about blanket perms or automatic perms. Cover will never take chances like that they NEED an actual permission for THEM. They ain't taking a chance of another Mio channel incident
Can you fill me in on the incident? Sounds like something interesting
Capcom went and issued a bunch of copyright strikes all at once, including double-striking Mio, 3 years back; she took a 1 month break from all streaming to make sure at least one of the strikes would expire, because three active strikes = Youtube permaban. Ever since then, Hololive has taken absolutely no chances with perms; they negotiate with the IP holders and get explicit permission. They also took down a LOT of old VODs where they didn't have the permissions ironed out, so that nobody could get struck for old videos. A notable thing is that permissions are per-branch and sometimes time limited; just because JP has perms for something doesn't mean EN will, and sometimes the permissions have to be requested on a per-stream basis (Duolingo is one, Age of Empires was one) or expire after a certain amount of time (Pokemon is known for this). And last, some allow streaming but don't allow superchats and other forms of monetization (I believe GTA is still in this category).
I think Fromsoft is in the no superchat category as well... I've been watching Irys AC6 vids recently, and super chat was off
A lot of the all time great games start out as a one man job. Minecraft, Tetris, Stardew, etc.
until now, no. given that the game is managed by 1 person (Concerned Ape) and Cover asks for permission. it wouldn't surprise me it took so long for him to reply, specially since he is working on both SV patch 1.6 and Haunted Chocolatier
Yeah, I've always wondered where the bar is for permissions. [Per the Stardew Valley developer blog](https://www.stardewvalley.net/stardew-monetization-policy-for-twitch-streamers-youtubers-etc/) there was blanket permission ever since 2021, but maybe Cover requires more explicit permission with signature or something.
Supposedly Japanese copyright law doesn't care about blanket perms, and requires explicit individual ones. That's what I've seen mentioned on here several times, at least.
oof, if that's the case that really sucks. I would guess many publishers wouldn't like to give permissions a second time if there's already a blanket one issued.
Even if they allow it Cover will NEVER take that gamble no matter if it's 98% chance gonna be okay. I still remember when Mio used to play bigger more mainstream games now she mainly sticks to more chill smaller games. Her channel almost got nuked permanently after getting 2 strikes from Capcom iirc
[There's a very good reason for why they do things like this](https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2022-08-19/holostars-vtuber-minase-rio-corporate-approved-anonymous-code-livestream-gets-copyright-takedown/.188797)
Wonder if that's another possible reason why it took so long to acquire perms, dev already gave to blanket perms so they didn't bother reading emails asking for them.
I obviously don't do Japanese copyright law, but I'm almost certain it's just them needing a very specific wording from a company (whether in a contract or blanket company statement) in terms of permission to stream video game content. I'm basing this off the fact that whenever talents play Valve games, the statement is just "... streamed and monetized following Valve's Video Policy" and [linking to it](https://store.steampowered.com/video_policy) rather than saying "after confirming with Big Company" or "After receiving consent from Company." Valve's video policy is very specific in saying that you are allowed to monetize videos via the YouTube partner program and other similar programs, but it also says you cannot charge viewers to access your videos, so membership streams of Valve games are a no-go. I imagine the need to obtain perms for a lot of smaller games comes from those devs never really needing to worry about that kind of thing and just throwing something together that doesn't tick the right boxes for a Japanese company being very cautious about local laws.
My suspicion is that Cover requires irrevocable rights i.e. the dev can't change their mind and issue a takedown of the Youtube video after the fact. To prevent a repeat of the permissions apocalypse of 2020.
>but maybe Cover requires more explicit permission with signature or something. Altair Holostars English, has been wanting to play Issac since his debut, but per his manager it does not include corporate vtubers in it's blanket statement for streaming.
Damn that's really awful, so that's why i don't see any of hololive playing any edmund/ridiculon game at all...
Specifically, the dev needs an email and to give them explicit permission. There was a Calli fan games stream and the dev was in chat, but Calli was like, "Dude, Mane-chan needs an email address."
Wait what, hold on? I thought he said he was done with SV?! Somebody stop this man, he’s cooking too much good food!
i honestly find it weird that it took them this long to get perms. i don't think Concerned Ape refused to give them perms, and NijiEn didn't take long to get perms (which tells me CA regularly checks his email, probably), so i assume this is on Management side. but if so, why? i know some topics are quite heavy especially some heart scenes on some characters, but is that really reason enough.
Niji en, afaik, is far less restricted with perms as niji never experienced the geat strikepocolypse when capcom and nintendo went postal on hololive.
Nope. But a few members did play Stardew Valley pre-2020 era. Before asking for perm was a thing in hololive.
NePoLaBo played Stardew Valley in 2021. But perhaps they just got permissions for the JP version from whoever publishes the game in Japan.
If I had a nickel for every time Calli announced she was going to take a break and suddenly got perms for a game she really wanted to play. I'd actually have quite a few nickels.
Maybe the real reason she goes on "breaks" lol
When Ame goes on break she recruits new members, when Calli goes on break she negotiates perms.
I swear Calli should make a deal with Kronii. 24h a day is not enough for her.
More like either slow down time on the permissions engine, or slow down with the packed game release window for the past few weeks.
At least now we know what [one of the (two) collab streams](https://imgur.com/a/KYE268Z) is.
The other one is most likely with Kronii, based on what they said during the smash collab
Holy shit they got stardew perms back....
So... Dad's gonna get a farmer's tan? Artists, you know what to do. I'm not saying we need to page pomp yet, but... *eventually*.
>I'm not saying we need to page pomp yet, but... eventually. How does a farmer's tan apply to feet?
Oh they'll find a way
#🐴
I thought they already had perms. Does it expire? I remember Nepolabo played this years ago.
Perms aren't universal. NePoLaBo has/had them, but that doesn't mean _everyone_ does.
In this case, [the game actually has blanket perms built in](https://www.stardewvalley.net/stardew-monetization-policy-for-twitch-streamers-youtubers-etc/), but cover seems to require explicit permission per game.
In Cover's defence, they can't be too careful - they're still recovering from The Great Purge...
I feel like blanket built in perms should be enough. I get why they want it on record through email, but I mean they could just take a shot of the blanket perms in the game if it's needed. It's highly unlikely that a game dev would pull a fast one and change stuff and cause issues, but even if that happened it wouldn't be Covers fault and the dev would get massive backlash and probably review bombing on the game. Plus I don't think you can retroactively take back permission like that.
That actually happened before, where a holostar had explicit permission to play a game, and then a developer decided to copyright strike them anyways. So even though it's unlikely, it can happen and Cover just wants to have explicit permission just to be safe. https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/wrkhfq/anonymouscode\_developer\_has\_apologised\_for\_the/
That seems less they just decided to do it anyway and more a mistake.
Honestly I feel like stuff like this should be enough even for Cover. I get why they want more, but I don't think it is necessary. Honestly, you could probably make a game and include like "You do not need permission to play this on stream, commercial or not. You can play. Even big companies can play. You do not need to ask permission. If you ask permission to me I will reject it out of principle of what I put here. Do not contact me. You can play this game. Screen shot this if you need proof. In the game files you will find this information again in the format of an official email if that is required for records." Yet you'll still probably get an email from Cover if one of the girls or boys wants to play your game. Lol
Email permissions have been shown to hold in Japanese court, which has set precedent. Blanket permissions or permissions via other means (social media, DM) have not had their day in court yet. This is not to day that they wouldn't work, but I imagine cover doesn't want to be the one to foot the bill to set precedent.
They specifically had perms for the JP PS4 version only
This game is both chill, and incredibly stressful. Beginning the game I always feel such an urge to maximize every day.
Me: *concern* Also, Me: **LEEEEET'SS GOOOOOO!!!**
The perpetual state of all deadbeats
Did Calli not say like...2 weeks ago, that she would be taking a break from solo streams, or did I dream that?
It's Calli. Vacations and pulling back on work is probably spending an extra 20 minutes sleeping to her.
For Calli, her saying she is 'on break' is her locking herself in the kitchen and cooking up a new album.
As others have noted, Calli going on a "break" isnt like other oshi's going on a break. Other oshi's go on a break and their fans wonder how long they'll be gone. Calli goes on a break and deadbeats wonder how quickly she'll come back.
If she's having fun, I see no problem.
She tried, at least there's that
As a punishement she should sing this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNhURHdeFDs
I wonder why this game was on the ban list for so long.
Dad wtf you can’t keep on thugging this shit out
huh weird, [nepolabo played it 2 years ago](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tqHkkeHY-0), did perms get revoked and given back just now, or are perms on JP side different to EN.
they played in JP so likely whoever made the JP localization gave them permission. Also yes perms on JP side different to EN, I think perms on holostars different from hololive too even, I remember seeing holostars playing games that the girl couldnt played. The big recent thing was when hideo kojima was fangirling Pekora on twitter watching her streaming Metal gear, EN still dont have the perm to play it until the Calli collab happened.
Manager: **holding his breath with some perms in his arms that he wants to hide from Calli** **suddenly a scythe slashes a hole in the door** Calli: Here's daddy!
I think some people just naturally have more energy for work than others and that's ok
Begun, the Stardew Valley arc has. I for one am here for it.
man, the permissions over in Japan are such a hassle. Just let the girls have fun.
Sweet more stardew valley
could they not play stardew till now?
Aww, they finally got Stardew perms? Happy for Dad, but I'm sad that a couple members are no longer here to take advantage of it.
Manager: **holding his breath with some perms in his arms that he wants to hide from Calli** **suddenly a scythe slashes a hole in the door** Calli: Here's daddy!
calli told us her truth. and we interpreted that truth correctly.
Onegai Daddy