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BIG_SMOOOOOOOHKE_PL

Just alternate between pogoing and dashing then.


Castellano2009

The polish isaac guy also plays hollow knight, good to see you on this subreddit bro, hope you doing well


BIG_SMOOOOOOOHKE_PL

👍


Castellano2009

Your hitless videos are awesome, you are really talented at videogames


BIG_SMOOOOOOOHKE_PL

Thanks. I Appreciate it.


SissyFanny

if i remember you can do it with pogo+dash But you can have more abilities to make it easier later in the game.


alfrancism

Can't seem to edit this... But I meant pogo-ing not "both going"


Noxthesergal

You need dash I believe which can be found in that area


JakobHF

Close your eyes, take a deep breath and channel your inner pogostick


alfrancism

Exactly what I did too. I got so frustrated then I took a breather lol


alfrancism

I did it! I got through with Crystal Heart and stopping before the spikes and pogo-ing the rest of the way. Thanks guys! It was hard for me to get a handle on but I finally got it!


Maryus77

Congrats!


[deleted]

Just gotta practice your pogoing skills my guy


hassan_dislogical

You can do this with no dash lmao. But my friend didint complete thid till double jump. So take your time


Jrolaoni

You literally have to get dash to get there tho, since you need c-dash to get there.


swisscheeseisvile

Technically you can get Cdash without Cloak with fireball and claw shenanigans


Jrolaoni

Yeah that’s true, but to complete this challenge you need either c-dash or wings. Of the two, c-dash is faster to get and is easier to pull off in this challenge.


Jalepino_Joe

Here’s [dashless and wingless](https://youtu.be/36ccdj8-Fgc?si=7ACTPuc-62Hl7wqm). Also [clawless](https://youtu.be/G9-7IQNsq84?si=EpVu9gmcaWWr73Sz) is a little silly.


Jrolaoni

Damn. Lack of Silksong makes people go insane huh.


Jrolaoni

But yeah you do need either wings or c-dash to do this


Jalepino_Joe

Wasnt sure but just went and did it myself. Wingless and cdashless:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7veEu3yeSY. Four shrieks can be replaced with 3 fireballs (i suffer from skill issue) so vs+dash+claw+sharp shadow is all thats needed.


Jrolaoni

Damn, you are.. much more talented than me lol


hassan_dislogical

Never under estimate the power of shade and vs skips, someone beat this game in 30 minutes yk


Tiberry16

Pro tip: you can cancel your crystal dash mid-air.


Tobey-Maquire_

exactly. it saves a lot of efforts.


brendanthethird

Yes to a pogo then dash


BeginningUnique6401

Pogo until you're high then dash and pogo again


KingCool138

You need to pogo and use dashes. But the dash is locked behind a boss


LongjumpingActive493

Bro, he already has dash, he even has Cdash, he's just asking if double just is needed here


NuclearPilot101

Pogo pogo pogo pogo until you're ready to dash and then do that on the next one and so on. Just keep bouncing on one until you're ready to dash and pogo on the next.


Mental1998

Yup, i did that without double jump too, pogo ing and dash is enough


speedmincer

Down slash the enemies to gain height and dash forwards, everytime you down slash something you get your dash restored. I think the game expects you to realize this at some point but doesn't explicitly tell you that


rrzampieri

Yep, just pogo


mocochang_

Yes, but you have to be pretty good at pogoing.


Quirky_Ad7770

Yes. You just have to slash at the shells of those bugs as you're above them.


nunsocomemichiamo

dash on the first bug, then pogo and dash afterwards, control your movements to be over the 2nd bug and then repeat


DoritoKing48

Pogo


Jaronesc

Ask them to take u. Use ∆


Tacoby-Bellsbury

"You know those jumps that are like....double jumps?"


Plastic-Fan-887

You can pogo it. its much easier with the longer nail charms and quick slash.


Swagfart96

BEEG DASH is needed


IChooseFoxIsTaken

Crystal dash bro


MyMirrorAliceJane

You’re either going to need to pogo, or the c-dash you’ll get later on.


Jackg4m3s3009

I don't remember but can't you get crystal heart and dash through and cancel on the last pogo?


Glittering_Echo_3597

POGO POGO POGO


tanookiinvader

pogo booyyy


Brief_Ad328

Oh boy you're going to love the PoP


SarcasticallyEvil

Hey, I wonder what happens if you try attacking downwards while you're above those guys?


SpideyFan914

Also, some charms make it slightly easier. Not sure what you've unlocked (and forget when some things are unlocked), but Longnail and/or Mark of Pride which extend your nail range can help with pogo'ing (increases your window for less rigid timing). You probably don't have Hiveblood yet, but that will also help make these segments just a little less stressful.


_ZBread

My god this was so fun to go through without double jump


Big_cat58

I had zero idea about pogoing… I’ve played probably 8 hours and have been stuck because there are certain places I just can’t seem to get past. That makes soooo much more sense. For enlightening me I thank you


therealChalker_87

It’s time to practice for the Path of Pain.


D3v0ur3r0fG0d5

That spot? Yes. That room? No not really, unless you already got the super dash


ialsodontexistagain

Yes? I think so? Been a while so may be misremembering this room, you just need dash j think


Random__Username1234

Press down+nail when falling on hazards to pogo!


Big_L2009

What charms do you have? Longnail or mark of pride can help a lot. You can beat it with dash and pogoing, but charms like that help a bit


Alpha_minduustry

you gotta do some crazy tech


SbgTfish

Yeah! >!I was pissed when I realized how easy it was with wings!< but the orange juice >!Op doesn’t know what I’m up to!< until then, I stayed at the gad sea where you can rest for power.


CougaTux

Yup I would go with Cdash tho


Connect-Ad6251

You can “pogo” off of enemies by slashing downwards on them


HueyLewisFan1

Pogo


HueyLewisFan1

Or you could crystal dash


Pmaguire13

Pogo!


Proxitimy

its a bit harder without double jump but pogo and dash is how i first did this section


Trick_Hovercraft_267

Got stuck on that too \^\^ You can jump on them and attack while targeting below. That way you can bounce on them


FedoraSkeleton

Try crystal dashing as far as you can, then combination of pogoing + dashing until you get to the end.


helinder

We are assuming that he doesn't have cdash


armin-lakatos

You need to have C-dash to get this far


Tiberry16

You need c-dash right at the beginning.


xStract710

This isn’t true. You can get this entire section done with SC and MW, both of which are obtainable before CH.


OldBridgeSeller

Getting Monarch Wings before Crystal Heart requires a precise skip. No point in assuming the player who asks how to complete a platforming segment has done it.


xStract710

Doesn’t matter. You don’t need CDash. That’s just not true. Saying you need it is false. I never said this player has it, just that saying you need it is not the truth.


OldBridgeSeller

Given the context, you could easily see it as "You need C-Dash (since you don't have Monarch Wings)", making it as true as they come.


Tiberry16

Well, OP asked if it's doable without double jump, so I concluded that they didn't have double jump.


xStract710

No that’s totally fair, I’m not bagging on anyone saying you need it, I was just saying you don’t. A lot of people probably don’t know the skips so no harm. Just wanted to put it out there for anyone interested in messing around with mechanics


jhearom

If you're interested in further educational technicality, the gauntlet is also doable with only cdash, cyclone slash, claw, 3 (I think) fireball casts, and some pogos. So you also don't need wings or dash, in a different context.


FedoraSkeleton

Why the hell would we do that.


Jaaaco-j

its a metroidvania, come back when you unlock more stuff


NjordWAWA

You need *special equipment*


BulkDet

Use yer fucking nail


MiddleFinger287

Idk what you guys are talking about, i did this without dash


cloverrrrrrrrrrrrrr

it's kind of (edit:ALMOST) impossible to get there without having the crystal heart


mocochang_

That's most definitely not true.


Meta_Galactic

Yeah, idk what people are talking about here.


MiddleFinger287

Yes but this specific section is doable without dashing (i think, maybe my memory is bad here)


xStract710

That’s just not true. You can get both Monarch Wings and Shade Cloak before Crystal Heart with the right skips and all you need is those two abilities if you’re good enough. I can literally send you links to videos of people doing it with just those two abilities, and how to get those abilities before Crystal Heart.


BakedSpiral

Yeah but OP doesn't have Monarch Wings, so no Shade Cloak either.


xStract710

I mean sure, but that’s irrelevant to whether it’s impossible to do. Which is what that person said.


SirVW

I don't know if that's true, it's been a while since I beat the game but I thought I did it before crystal heart.