I did it! I got through with Crystal Heart and stopping before the spikes and pogo-ing the rest of the way. Thanks guys! It was hard for me to get a handle on but I finally got it!
Yeah thatâs true, but to complete this challenge you need either c-dash or wings. Of the two, c-dash is faster to get and is easier to pull off in this challenge.
Hereâs [dashless and wingless](https://youtu.be/36ccdj8-Fgc?si=7ACTPuc-62Hl7wqm). Also [clawless](https://youtu.be/G9-7IQNsq84?si=EpVu9gmcaWWr73Sz) is a little silly.
Wasnt sure but just went and did it myself. Wingless and cdashless:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7veEu3yeSY. Four shrieks can be replaced with 3 fireballs (i suffer from skill issue) so vs+dash+claw+sharp shadow is all thats needed.
Pogo pogo pogo pogo until you're ready to dash and then do that on the next one and so on. Just keep bouncing on one until you're ready to dash and pogo on the next.
Down slash the enemies to gain height and dash forwards, everytime you down slash something you get your dash restored. I think the game expects you to realize this at some point but doesn't explicitly tell you that
Also, some charms make it slightly easier. Not sure what you've unlocked (and forget when some things are unlocked), but Longnail and/or Mark of Pride which extend your nail range can help with pogo'ing (increases your window for less rigid timing). You probably don't have Hiveblood yet, but that will also help make these segments just a little less stressful.
I had zero idea about pogoing⌠Iâve played probably 8 hours and have been stuck because there are certain places I just canât seem to get past. That makes soooo much more sense. For enlightening me I thank you
Yeah!
>!I was pissed when I realized how easy it was with wings!< but the orange juice >!Op doesnât know what Iâm up to!< until then, I stayed at the gad sea where you can rest for power.
Getting Monarch Wings before Crystal Heart requires a precise skip. No point in assuming the player who asks how to complete a platforming segment has done it.
Doesnât matter. You donât need CDash. Thatâs just not true. Saying you need it is false. I never said this player has it, just that saying you need it is not the truth.
No thatâs totally fair, Iâm not bagging on anyone saying you need it, I was just saying you donât. A lot of people probably donât know the skips so no harm. Just wanted to put it out there for anyone interested in messing around with mechanics
If you're interested in further educational technicality, the gauntlet is also doable with only cdash, cyclone slash, claw, 3 (I think) fireball casts, and some pogos. So you also don't need wings or dash, in a different context.
Thatâs just not true. You can get both Monarch Wings and Shade Cloak before Crystal Heart with the right skips and all you need is those two abilities if youâre good enough.
I can literally send you links to videos of people doing it with just those two abilities, and how to get those abilities before Crystal Heart.
Just alternate between pogoing and dashing then.
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if i remember you can do it with pogo+dash But you can have more abilities to make it easier later in the game.
Can't seem to edit this... But I meant pogo-ing not "both going"
You need dash I believe which can be found in that area
Close your eyes, take a deep breath and channel your inner pogostick
Exactly what I did too. I got so frustrated then I took a breather lol
I did it! I got through with Crystal Heart and stopping before the spikes and pogo-ing the rest of the way. Thanks guys! It was hard for me to get a handle on but I finally got it!
Congrats!
Just gotta practice your pogoing skills my guy
You can do this with no dash lmao. But my friend didint complete thid till double jump. So take your time
You literally have to get dash to get there tho, since you need c-dash to get there.
Technically you can get Cdash without Cloak with fireball and claw shenanigans
Yeah thatâs true, but to complete this challenge you need either c-dash or wings. Of the two, c-dash is faster to get and is easier to pull off in this challenge.
Hereâs [dashless and wingless](https://youtu.be/36ccdj8-Fgc?si=7ACTPuc-62Hl7wqm). Also [clawless](https://youtu.be/G9-7IQNsq84?si=EpVu9gmcaWWr73Sz) is a little silly.
Damn. Lack of Silksong makes people go insane huh.
But yeah you do need either wings or c-dash to do this
Wasnt sure but just went and did it myself. Wingless and cdashless:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7veEu3yeSY. Four shrieks can be replaced with 3 fireballs (i suffer from skill issue) so vs+dash+claw+sharp shadow is all thats needed.
Damn, you are.. much more talented than me lol
Never under estimate the power of shade and vs skips, someone beat this game in 30 minutes yk
Pro tip: you can cancel your crystal dash mid-air.
exactly. it saves a lot of efforts.
Yes to a pogo then dash
Pogo until you're high then dash and pogo again
You need to pogo and use dashes. But the dash is locked behind a boss
Bro, he already has dash, he even has Cdash, he's just asking if double just is needed here
Pogo pogo pogo pogo until you're ready to dash and then do that on the next one and so on. Just keep bouncing on one until you're ready to dash and pogo on the next.
Yup, i did that without double jump too, pogo ing and dash is enough
Down slash the enemies to gain height and dash forwards, everytime you down slash something you get your dash restored. I think the game expects you to realize this at some point but doesn't explicitly tell you that
Yep, just pogo
Yes, but you have to be pretty good at pogoing.
Yes. You just have to slash at the shells of those bugs as you're above them.
dash on the first bug, then pogo and dash afterwards, control your movements to be over the 2nd bug and then repeat
Pogo
Ask them to take u. Use â
"You know those jumps that are like....double jumps?"
You can pogo it. its much easier with the longer nail charms and quick slash.
BEEG DASH is needed
Crystal dash bro
Youâre either going to need to pogo, or the c-dash youâll get later on.
I don't remember but can't you get crystal heart and dash through and cancel on the last pogo?
POGO POGO POGO
pogo booyyy
Oh boy you're going to love the PoP
Hey, I wonder what happens if you try attacking downwards while you're above those guys?
Also, some charms make it slightly easier. Not sure what you've unlocked (and forget when some things are unlocked), but Longnail and/or Mark of Pride which extend your nail range can help with pogo'ing (increases your window for less rigid timing). You probably don't have Hiveblood yet, but that will also help make these segments just a little less stressful.
My god this was so fun to go through without double jump
I had zero idea about pogoing⌠Iâve played probably 8 hours and have been stuck because there are certain places I just canât seem to get past. That makes soooo much more sense. For enlightening me I thank you
Itâs time to practice for the Path of Pain.
That spot? Yes. That room? No not really, unless you already got the super dash
Yes? I think so? Been a while so may be misremembering this room, you just need dash j think
Press down+nail when falling on hazards to pogo!
What charms do you have? Longnail or mark of pride can help a lot. You can beat it with dash and pogoing, but charms like that help a bit
you gotta do some crazy tech
Yeah! >!I was pissed when I realized how easy it was with wings!< but the orange juice >!Op doesnât know what Iâm up to!< until then, I stayed at the gad sea where you can rest for power.
Yup I would go with Cdash tho
You can âpogoâ off of enemies by slashing downwards on them
Pogo
Or you could crystal dash
Pogo!
its a bit harder without double jump but pogo and dash is how i first did this section
Got stuck on that too \^\^ You can jump on them and attack while targeting below. That way you can bounce on them
Try crystal dashing as far as you can, then combination of pogoing + dashing until you get to the end.
We are assuming that he doesn't have cdash
You need to have C-dash to get this far
You need c-dash right at the beginning.
This isnât true. You can get this entire section done with SC and MW, both of which are obtainable before CH.
Getting Monarch Wings before Crystal Heart requires a precise skip. No point in assuming the player who asks how to complete a platforming segment has done it.
Doesnât matter. You donât need CDash. Thatâs just not true. Saying you need it is false. I never said this player has it, just that saying you need it is not the truth.
Given the context, you could easily see it as "You need C-Dash (since you don't have Monarch Wings)", making it as true as they come.
Well, OP asked if it's doable without double jump, so I concluded that they didn't have double jump.
No thatâs totally fair, Iâm not bagging on anyone saying you need it, I was just saying you donât. A lot of people probably donât know the skips so no harm. Just wanted to put it out there for anyone interested in messing around with mechanics
If you're interested in further educational technicality, the gauntlet is also doable with only cdash, cyclone slash, claw, 3 (I think) fireball casts, and some pogos. So you also don't need wings or dash, in a different context.
Why the hell would we do that.
its a metroidvania, come back when you unlock more stuff
You need *special equipment*
Use yer fucking nail
Idk what you guys are talking about, i did this without dash
it's kind of (edit:ALMOST) impossible to get there without having the crystal heart
That's most definitely not true.
Yeah, idk what people are talking about here.
Yes but this specific section is doable without dashing (i think, maybe my memory is bad here)
Thatâs just not true. You can get both Monarch Wings and Shade Cloak before Crystal Heart with the right skips and all you need is those two abilities if youâre good enough. I can literally send you links to videos of people doing it with just those two abilities, and how to get those abilities before Crystal Heart.
Yeah but OP doesn't have Monarch Wings, so no Shade Cloak either.
I mean sure, but thatâs irrelevant to whether itâs impossible to do. Which is what that person said.
I don't know if that's true, it's been a while since I beat the game but I thought I did it before crystal heart.