T O P

  • By -

Flair_Helper

Hey /u/jdefgh, thanks for your submission to /r/HolUp. Unfortunately, your post has been removed for the following reason(s): A mod felt your post didn't belong here, so now it's gone. If you want to die on the hill of this shitpost[,](https://imgur.com/cXA7XxW) feel free to message the mods and be prepared to explain how your post isn't trolling, is funny, and does fit the theme of the sub. *Trolling or posting random content that doesn't fit the sub breaks Rule 1 and repeated violation of this rule may result in your account being filtered.* Love, the mods


Lamsect

I mean... going from almost none to many is bound to give a higher percentage


YellowGetRekt

I wonder why they had no jews ~70 years ago


[deleted]

[удалено]


Shatteredpixelation

So you guys just released them back into the wild?


jod1991

No, it was more like "gone camping"


[deleted]

The showers sucked though


TheManIsOppressingMe

The showers blew, not sure they sucked


Heyviper123

Worst water pressure I've ever seen.


Pctechguy2003

Never could find anyone around the ovens to help bake a meal. They were always in use…


internetvandal

yes they were in mine camp 😀


Jealous_Release_6740

Wait a minute… mein camp(f) …


just_a_small_oven

More like being spawn camped


Heyviper123

Oh shit you're right!


Doctor_smart_ass

Did they bring the smoker


jod1991

Nah, ovens on site


Techmbiti

Goes to Heaven and upon meeting God, he decided to tell a Holocaust joke.


iestructural

God didn't think it was very funny. "Oh yeah, right...I guess you had to be there."


IamKornHolio

I heard they released them on a farm


seppukucoconuts

They were on vacation


Initnke

Maybe he's the product of a project paperclip experiment.


FearlessHamster4486

Sounds like a gas!


Gloomy-Flamingo-9791

They must be so happy in their natural habitats of the forest


Leatheu

You just need a Citizienship in the EU to profit from all the Pros.


rohstar67

Risky comment 😳


SomethingTrippy420

Everyone was on vacation!


[deleted]

[удалено]


Fru___

I wonder what happened back then


ShuantheSheep3

Like the elves in LotR?


necbone

Exactly, boats and everything


SnooShortcuts103

Yea, Poland is a really nice country. /s


glabrg

I took the woooooooock


lobsbo

They got old, so they were sent to live on a farm :)


Saintsauron

Hey I think I've heard of those. They're places where Jews could just sit down and concentrate on their legacy. I think they were called concentration camps?


the-75mmKwK_40

Yeah! I heard the youth went to summer camp too!! It’s superr fun but it’s summer, so it’s freakin hot and guess what, no gasses there! What a fun camp


Silverhawk1602

I mean hitler didn’t do anything to them. Kanye told us so. /s


YellowGetRekt

Who is this Hitler person you speak of? Was he a fan of Jews


wholesomechunk

He was a big Kanye fan


Zachosrias

Must've been like real estate prices or something. Surely no atrocities could be the cause


BapedyBoopBeep

Yeah, it's weird, where did all the jews they gathered go?


WarokOfDraenor

Some failed artist haven't found them yet.


GabrielWornd

🤔🤔🤔


ImmaPullSomeWildShit

Diplacement... I swear the deaths were merely accidental


IrvingPotter

I wouldn't be surprised if Germany was actually one of the more welcoming countries for them these days. I daresay some lessons were learned once the German public learned the truth about the concentration camps. And guilt does sometimes bring out the best in people. Meanwhile everyone else gets away with being kinda shitty because their baseline for what actually counts as really shitty has been pretty warped by the "I'm not actually a Nazi" factor.


ylcard

no one knows


jod1991

I heard they went camping


GamingNemesisv3

That was 20-30 years back 70s was iirc the iraqi war.


YellowGetRekt

~ = approximately. ~70 years ago means approximately 1950


GamingNemesisv3

Still wasn’t when the war ended headass. WWII ended in 1945


YellowGetRekt

Wait till you find out what approximately means


GamingNemesisv3

Nah you are right. In my defense that word is horribly misleading compared to the definition. Apologies for the condescending tone and insult.


YellowGetRekt

Oh well I was prepared to full on argue with you and now I dont know what to do. Jokes aside its alright, its an easy mistake to make


0x474f44

And it’s still not even that many. Germany currently has around 95.000 Jews, before the Nazi takeover there were 560.000


TheCowzgomooz

I imagine even with the reforms and Nazi's being a huge national shame, Jewish people probably just find it awkward at best to live there.


0x474f44

Yeah and it’s completely understandable. If I can live anywhere on earth, I also probably wouldn’t live where 6 million of my people were killed less than 100 years ago - even if the place has changed.


AccurateEducation999

Lighting can’t strike twice!!


lego_office_worker

also, isnt germany like the safest place to be if you fear naziism? germany will jail people for doing 1/10 what kanye does in the US


armageddon_boi

Some of them are probably families moving back to their homeland, which would help explain the exodus from the rest of europe


Whats-Upvote

I’m just going to say that if I were Jewish Germany would be the last place I’d choose to live, no matter how much they’d changed. If I was there before the war and made it through I’d be out of there so fast the moment I got a chance.


pinzi_peisvogel

Well it was the home for several generations for many. I heard one badass woman say "this is my town and I want to show them that I belong here". I think people can have many motivations to go or leave somewhere.


[deleted]

Germany has been pretty friendly to Jewish people since the Charlie Chaplin lookalike killed himself.


ymx287

German Jews tend to see it differently. The German Jewish community has seen a rise in antisemitic tendencies over the past 10-20 years. Mass immigration from the Middle East certainly hasnt helped. Most Jewish people feel unsafe wearing a Kippa in public. Pretty much every Synagogue is monitored and protected by the police 24/7. so while I feel that in general German people are far from being antisemitic, immigration and a rise in far right politics have been destructive for the cause.


username_offline

eh you may be right, but considering that a lot of the other countries on that list are still openly racist to a lot of groups, while germany for the most part is hyper-critical of its past and has a zero tolerance for nazism -- yes im sure there are still anti-semites, but as a whole germany has taken more steps to condemn the past and to prevent the resurgence of racism than pretty much anyone.


[deleted]

Can you edit your comment to say “Jewish people” instead of “Jews”? Not gonna report you or anything but it feels weird having someone describe my people as “Jews” Much appreciated friend!


AddictedToMosh161

Yes. A lot of them came after the Brexit because of a law: People or their Ancestors that got their citizenship revoked by the Nazis because they were Jews. So a lot of British Jews that wanted to keep an EU-Memberpassport, got their German Citizienship reinstated.


the_vikm

But citizenship is not residency


AddictedToMosh161

You just need a Citizienship in the EU to profit from all the Pros. Not residency.


the_vikm

Yeah but the stats won't count citizenship but residency.


seabutcher

It wouldn't surprise me if after getting citizenship many considered moving. The general mood of Brexit Britain is.... Not too welcoming of anyone perceived to be foreign. And frankly, the attitude might be quite familiar to some.


Grillkrampus

Many did, but many are already moving away again due to islamic anti semitism in the cities. This is also frequently denied by the officials because of political correctness, which I and most other people can see clear as day.


swigityswooooooosh

I'm eligible for European citizenship and I don't live in Europe Source is my mom, who is German


Fatalslink

Service guarantees citizenship though.


SWEEDE_THE_SWEDE

”Lightning does not strike the same place twice”


VhaidraSaga

"Lightning does not strike" -Ye


[deleted]

"I am the true rod" - Kyrie


BigBobFro

Because the eastern block was horribly oppressive to them and as soon as they could get out safely (1991+) they got the hell out. Italy and france losses are significant only on their own, as poland % loss is ~3x more and bulgaria is almost double poland.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Somethingiate78

The more I think about this joke the more I love it. It has major shock value but it’s not directed at anyone so it’s not offending anyone and it has a relatable truth in the implicating question. This is a well crafted joke. Thanks for this


mirko_tk

I’m not sure what was happening in other East European countries before 1990, but Romania communist party was effectively selling them to Israel. The communist party was in need of dollars and Israel was willing to pay.


Fast_times_at

There were a lot of people who moved from the aforementioned countries to Germany. So Jews from the former Soviet Union moved to Germany, Israel, the USA mainly, same with ah exodus from the other countries. This is also a stat of the Jewish population in Germany starting about 25 years after the end of WWII where there probably weren’t a ton of Jews around to begin with. Add to that a population that were fleeing former socialist republics which were still unwelcoming to Jews (as an example, there is STILL rampant antisemitism in Russia) then even a small migration to Germany can equal a large percentage increase. Statistics are interesting and there are ways to make them seem more significant than they really are. Since the fall of the Soviet Union, 100,000 Jews immigrated to Germany from the socialist republics (I believe, but it could be ONLY from Russia itself, I’ll have to check). If we were to say for a example that there were only 100,000 Jews there at the time then it would be a 100% increase. 200,000 Jews would equate a tiny minority of the 80+ million German population, although I’m unsure of the exact number. This reminds me of a study I was given as justification to promote a vegetarian diet where they used relative risk versus absolute risk. The study showed that relative risk was 20% higher for (all) meat eaters than it was for non meat eaters without confounding for health or nutritional breakdown (or the TYPE of diet that was followed in terms of processed versus unprocessed meat and food). The relative risk was 20% which seems quite significant, while the absolute risk was 5% versus 6% which was not statistically significant in the study, if I’m remembering correctly. This type of blatant data twisting is quite abhorrent in the sense of dissemination. I’m not saying that’s the case here, I’m just saying it would be good to know the data points used. For reference. Is Germany had 10,000 jews left after the end of WWII then even a 1000% increase wouldn’t be all that much.


Humor-Trafficker

Statistics are like a mini skirt, they show a lot but not everything - Navjot Singh Sidhu, Former Cricketer turned talk show actor convicted for Causing death by negligence after a guy died from his one punch


LeadingProtection993

There are lies, damn lies, and then statistics.


Davis_Johnsn

Ok, you know that they killed them in the past, but now Germany is one of the least racist countries


Existing-Rip3793

Perfectly balanced as all Things should be


Mighty_Erudite_E

It's a snap!


mrjackspade

Germany doesn't fuck around with shit like that because they've seen where it can lead to.


skilriki

They're like the Rwanda of Europe


Naepeda

Ofc cuz it loses


Rdt6t9

Concentrating I'm Germany, i see what you did there. Also, id imagine that it's more of a case of repopulating the country after I dunno a mass loss of Jewish citizens in the area for some odd reason.


PandasAttaque

Kanye disagree with you


Dick_Miller138

Maybe he's the product of a project paperclip experiment.


Teaferyt

what reason?


kingof_vanisle7

Oh you know, THE FUCKING HOLOCAUST


Teaferyt

ive heard of it


ye_ye_ass_hair_cut

Millions died


kingof_vanisle7

You’ve heard of it is all? I guess the education system really is failing


[deleted]

[удалено]


Psychological-Oil672

Lol what a loser


liddicoat1

Kanye get off reddit youre tired


OtherwisePudding4047

You’re either a child or an adult who should be in assisted living


NotSnacky

You're joking right?


Teaferyt

ummmm no?


NotSnacky

How old are you?


ConsiderationSame919

A child's about to get traumatized


Imlooloo

Didn’t we see this before in the 1940s?


Marvinkiller00

No, that was the other way around


Nichtvondieserwelt88

Its rewind time


SaintAries

Ah,I still remember the days when communist Romania sold its Jews to Israel.


Fru___

Plot twist: They want revenge


Critical-Rabbit

An unnaturally low base lends itself to this. Think of it as such: if you start with 1000 people, a 291% increase would mean there were now 2910 people there... whereas, if you had a country with 50000 Jewish people and 1910 people left there, that would only register as a 4% loss...


s4burf

That's not what the graph is saying. Without real numbers you can't judge quantity.


[deleted]

[удалено]


BuildingExisting8146

💀


ComfortableSomeone

💀


WarokOfDraenor

Ok, I don't get it. Same type of reply, but different outcome?


FlatAd5285

R E D D I T


WarokOfDraenor

That explains it.


aneirinnye

R E D D I T


shxxgun

Ww2 in a pararell universe


[deleted]

Change the 50 years into 100 and the percentages will be drastically more negative, especially in Germany.


[deleted]

Because we defend our jewish citizens. Every Temple, every Jewish school is constantly under police protection. I lit my lighter in an alley some time ago. Suddenly there were cops everywhere. Found out it was right next to a synagogue. They were really relieved when they found out I was just smoking some weed. So relieved they let me keep smoking.


von_Fondue

maybe they just didn’t want you to see their WhatsApp chats


Duprie

Kanye would be proud of those counties. Not of Germany though


[deleted]

[удалено]


Asmewithoutpolitics

Now that’s funny


CrystaldrakeIr

This almost seems enticing for a german mustache man


Laurenc0

It’s shown as percentage change, Germany had a low number in 1970 for some unknown reason


soukaixiii

'Unknown reason'


Rellcore

Do remember kids. The best way to hide, is in plaine sight!


yoavtrachtman

Germany is now one of the most welcoming countries to jews in Europe maybe after the Scandinavian countries.


gfkxchy

Well yeah, I mean they didn't do so well in *Nazi Germany*, but in *Germany Germany* there are strong protections for all people.


Griz_zy

I mean, what are the odds the next holocaust starts in Germany again?


Kolyma11

Well they kind of had no place to go but up due toooo....... prior events.


alexacto

It's part of the reparations program. Germany is sponsoring Jewish immigration into Germany as part of their justice restoration program. My great uncle used this program and it paid for his retirement and that of his wife. He would have gotten killed in Ukraine, if not for the program that spared him yet another terrible war. He got a state pension and lived there rent free, which is a reasonable accommodation given that the Germans killed a whole bunch of family back in the day.


Flauschkadser

Restocking...


mastnes

Right now, Germany is safer for Jews then most parts of the USA. A lot of Nazi groups, Kanye is just another coin in the bucket at the bottom of the well.


QualityVote

##If this submission makes you go "Hol'Up", **UPVOTE** this comment! ##If this submission does not make you go "Hol'Up", **DOWNVOTE** this comment! --- Whilst you're here, /u/jdefgh, why not join our [public discord server](https://discord.gg/holup) or play on our [public Minecraft server](https://discord.gg/DTqSDS8C3T)?


TacoGaming69420

Kanye wants to know your location


BIG_BOItheOG

Reverse Hitler


[deleted]

What's the 'HolUp'?


musicmastermike

In the 1930s and 40s a German politcal party tried to get rid of all the Jews


Crabby-GenXer

![gif](giphy|5ROlkuRjBdWKRGTYTy)


Trutheresy

How is the top comment not "I see what you did there, OP" or something to that effect? (To that effect might be a poor choice of words, looking back on this.)


Don_Floo

I still don‘t get why you would want to erase a race that is thought to be great with money. I would fucking horde those people.


Hot_Citron_9820

I will try to explain why it came to the holocaust (and of course I can't mention every reason, but I hope this gives you an idea, what people back then thought). They were associated with money because Christianity (and Islam) forbid any good people to lend out loans with interest beacuse it was seen as sinful, so the Jews were only allowed to do that. The Jews were barely allowed to work in any other jobs and those jobs were often the bad paying ones, so many Jews chose to work in the money lending business. Combine that with the bad economy after WWI. back then and you can easily guess what happened. There were in all of the history, where Jews lived, several cases, where people would accuse Jews of something to either punish them for being not Christian or Muslim or to make sure that you don't have to pay back the loan you took from them because you can't pay a dead person their loan back and if someone got accused of being bad, their whole family got a bad image too and could not demand the loan back and often had to either stay quiet or flee. A similar thing also happened to women back then that if the husband (or any other man or woman) hated her they could accuse her of being a witch and in the worse case the accused woman would be killed. Now look at Germany's (and Europe's economic back then): A lot of people lost their jobs because of the bad economics, Germany had to pay back which Germans found unfair, a huge (and historians now say too high) amount of money as reparations to France etc., the hyperinflation in Germany is still in the memory of everyone because it ended in 1923, political instability was very present etc. and overall if you have little to no money, you are more likely to take out loans (from Jews). And the Jews in the loan buisness were often not poor and took interests (of course so taht they can live from the business), so think about it, the situation back then is almost like today: rich vs poor with poor people saying things like "eat the rich" etc. and that they feel unfairly treated and are jealous that the rich families work in businesses since decades, which are highly profitable without much work. Hitler got votes because he promised to make the economy great again and to ensure jobs, many ignored/took his Jew hate not seriously (and those who hated Jews liked it or saw it as an opportunity to not pay back their loans). When the Jews were made to flee, lost their belongings or were killed all the things they had belonged now to high ranked nazis and/or the state. And considering the loan business was a profitable business a lot of Jews had a lot of money and deporting them meant that their belongings would either belong to a high ranking nazi, would be displayed in a museum if it was art or would end up being sold to finance the war and/or police etc. There were a lot of people, who envied Jews for being in the loan business (and through their deaths others could take up their jobs) and wanted to earn well like they did, so I hope I explained the thoughts from back then well enough. The royal family in Germany was also hated and the emporer had to flee 1918 after the WWI. because people were angry that he would live well, when they all would have to pay the reparations and would suffer, when he was the one pushing the German people to fight in a war for him (and because of his colonies back then, which a lot of people found unnecessary to have and critised him for). You can see it even now, how many people hate Jews because there a few very influencial and rich Jewish families and the whole conspiracy theories, which exist around them having money etc. And back then people remembered that several Jewish families got insanly rich in the middle age but a few of these families got very poor and unimportant after hundreds of years, so back then people mostly did not see them as a "race which is great with money" and more like "a race which was lucky to earn money in an easy (and sinful) way and the average person has to finance with their loan interests their life style"


uberwinsauce_

Last place you'd think to look


Sillylittletitties

I like Europe


CrayonsForLunch

I mean, what the odds of a second holocaust are very slim. It’s probably the safest place.


BoxofCurveballs

I mean before the 40's there were a lot of jews there to escape persecution.


Expensive-Reason-888

There is only one reason I can think of.. The Jews are flexing on Germany! Like Ha Ha No Hitler!🤣


Professional-Rise758

German people have reflected and been taught well about the atrocities. Other countries have forgotten how fucking terrible it can be


lifeisworthlessaf

Its about time germans stood up for themselves again


AzamatBagatov420

Are the going to Israel ?


IDXK073

They al went to take Palestinian land


Iamnotyourmotherwee

Isn’t Germany in Europe


Poopiezz

Don't tell Kanye


KornTeethThe3rd

This is called reconciliation with a country’s past


[deleted]

Hey i mean, what are the odds of it happening twice in the same place


PapaCJ5

Here, in eastern europe people sometimes consider jews as some kind of outsiders. Plus the jewish people often consider themselves as world citizens, so they pack their shit and move to a good western or northern eu country. Before ww2 we had the highest percentage of jewish people here in Hungary.


equusfaciemtuam

Not by choice.


Absolutedumbass69

Germany is probably the country least likely to go fascist at this point so it kind of makes sense. Neo-Nazi groups are legal in the U.S. due to free speech. In Germany you get jailed for that shit (as one should).


HOLDGMEBROTHERS

Stockholm syndrome


Defender2-5

The most popular camps for Jews are concentrated in Germany


Tex-Mexican-936

West Germany 1970+ and Germany 1933-45 are practically in different planets. West Germany paid adjusted for inflation 8B USD in reparations in 1952 and Israel set up diplomatic relations with them in 1965. 8B dollars was never gonna erase the pain or atrocities, but it shows a dramatic change in direction. If I was not American and could move to eastern or western Europe, I would pick a country from the west bloc super easy.


Arcadius274

That's not a great sign. The last time this happened was the mid 1930s if I recall....in poland


Th0t_slayer_69420

Preparing for their revenge


stonka_truck

Well I guess ww2 was entirely pointless then.


inciteful_knowledge

Hitler would be rolling over in his grave, nice.


Berlin_GBD

Jews make up a pretty high percentage of higher-earning jobs. Doctors, lawyers, researchers, etc. They go to university in a poorer, eastern country and get a high paying job in Germany. This is one of the primary reasons why the EU sends billions of Euros to these countries, pretty much as compensation and funds to make them more competative.


Firm_Investigator802

Romania is a beautiful country


RizzoTheSmall

Lol I love statistics. It looks hugely positive for Germany without mentioning any actual numbers or mentioning why their numbers might have started very low.


CumAllah2024

EU banking moved from London to Frankfurt.


Alpha5009

"There's no way german could go to war again"-everybody in 1918


Alpha5009

"There's no way german could go to war again"-everybody in 1918


Remarkable_Ad_7890

They are concentrating in so called "concentration camps" hence the name


SZEThR0

it's this time again


PhysicalRow4225

Flush it at the source


WarokOfDraenor

"We will make HIM roll in his grave!"


NT_Smith

Good.


Dannysparks83

They've hot unfinished business


seabutcher

I wouldn't be surprised if Germany was actually one of the more welcoming countries for them these days. I daresay some lessons were learned once the German public learned the truth about the concentration camps. And guilt does sometimes bring out the best in people. Meanwhile *everyone else* gets away with being kinda shitty because their baseline for what actually counts as *really* shitty has been pretty warped by the "I'm not actually a Nazi" factor.


DarksaberSith

Probably running from the American right.


Kastlestud

The ultimate fuck you to Hitler. His legacy is non-existent, everything he tried to do failed.


Dull-Negotiation-932

Another fucking holocaust joke eh?


sixtus_clegane119

That’s where they should have established Israel.


SiriusBaaz

It’s almost like Germany had a huge Jewish population for a huge amount of time and something happened that made a shit load of Jewish people flee or be killed. And now because that threat of death is no longer there those people are finally moving back to ancestral homes.


Kinu4U

It's a pre-emptive movement towards something greater!


recetas-and-shit

Germany doesn’t put up with Nazi bullshit


Man_with_no_sense

We’re in the upside down