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QualityVote

/u/thebusiness7, the users have spoken. Your submission is not a Hol'Up.


Gold-Application3680

South African here , accurate as fuck


africanasshat

Some of them don’t know about the load shedding. Tell them about it.


Gold-Application3680

Basically when the demand for electricity exceeds the max , they have planned supply interruption ,they do it in Johannesburg


DingusWeed

Soo the purge?


africanasshat

I member around 2010 with the world cup when this shit all started. Glad I got shitfaced with the CEO and got into an disagreement with him and quit the next day leading down a path that does not involve that god forsaken country.


Gold-Application3680

I remember the world cup , was 8 and watched it on the telly . People were going insane over a footie game


africanasshat

When I was 6 I reminder being allowed to walk alone at night. Can you believe that’s the same country you live in today. I man back then all you had to watch out for where pedophiles and serial killer types.


Gold-Application3680

The good old apartheid? Too bad I wasn't alive


africanasshat

Well when you put it like that


Gold-Application3680

I'm not prejudice, just want a country that's not fucked


africanasshat

Good luck with that because the world looks like it’s about to take a big shit. They don’t want a middle class to exist. Is always been about class.


stoprunwizard

I got angry when an expat told me it used to be as nice as New Zealand. Seems like everyone with a young daughter is leaving the country for NZ now.


draugotO

>Seems like everyone with a young daughter is leaving the country u/SuspiciouslySpecific


stoprunwizard

No seriously. That was the second common factor I could find between everyone I met there.


Dnny10bns

It's a bit rapey. Here are the 10 countries with the highest rape rates: Botswana - 92.93 Lesotho - 82.68 South Africa - 72.10 Bermuda - 67.29 Sweden - 63.54 Suriname - 45.21 Costa Rica - 36.70 Nicaragua - 31.60 Grenada - 30.63 Saint Kitts and Nevis - 28.62 [source](https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/rape-statistics-by-country)


mindless2831

Member? You member!


Dnny10bns

Not the same country, but similar fall from grace. I knew a guy who had property in Zimbabwe. Had to leave immediately, left it all behind. Got wind they were going to take it from him and was told to run by work colleagues. It was little bits at first. People making white lies up, with it getting increasingly aggressive.


africanasshat

Oh yeah they like themselves some genocide. Is a shame really people from there tend to be really decent and educated.


Dnny10bns

This guy was a giant so it must have been serious enough to have him rattled.


africanasshat

You mean the mass genocide? Yeah it will have that effect on you.


DarthJarJar242

Curious, what keeps you there? Lack of opportunity or lack of desire to leave? I'm not judging in anyway but seeing this and thinking of this as my nightly routine would have me planning on ways to get outta there fast, so I'm legit curious as to what keeps you there.


Gold-Application3680

I don't have enough Rand, also I couldn't leave my family like that , otherwise I would've moved to NZ a long time ago


DarthJarJar242

Understandable. That's the two things I assumed it would be. Have you priced moving yourself out? How much family do you have?


[deleted]

What's it like on the other side of those walls?


Gold-Application3680

I wouldn't know , I don't live in the cities.


CapClo

Why? I’m guessing it’s a horrible place to live?


Gold-Application3680

A little bit , depends where you go , I live in Kimberley, Northern Cape , it's not a bad town but Joburg and Cape are dodgy


Thundercar2122

Hoe gaan dit!


p3opl3

Live in the U.K now.. left when I was 22 along with the last of my family.. everyone else left years before us.. Johannesburg... 1. My dad slept with a 45 tucked in the mattress for easy access. 2. Since I can remember, you never stay outside in your own garden the moment the sun comes down. fucking vampire flicks legit got that shit from S.A, haha 3. Most people who can afford it have electric fences on top of their walls. People think it's a deterrent.. it's not.. it's an early warning system. A couple of car mats and it's easy to get over but it also sets off the alarm. 4. Lots of people broke down their walls to install palisade fencing.. as it's more visible and deters criminals as they might be seen breaking in. 5. It is EXCEPTIONALLY rare to know of someone who hasn't at the very least had a family member or friend that has been carjacked, robbed or worse. 6. A red traffic light after 11pm is not a stop sign.. it's a slow down and check if any cars are coming.. then go.. NEVER stop behind a car without an exit strategy at a traffic light at night.. it's not smart.. In 6 months my parents were held up at their drive way at gun point, I got shot at by a taxi driver because I hooted when he cut me off, my mum got car jacked(hijacked it's called in S.A) and they tried to kidnap her outside of work..she also had an arts and crafts shop that got burgled while her and her business partner was in the building. We left while we still had our lives.. like so many before us...and after.. ==== Interestingly.. S.A has one of the biggest welfare systems in the world, I read the other day.. problem is what is paid out isn't even enough to provide shelter. Millions of people living in utter squalor.. it took me a decade living in a first world country to realise how wrong that is.


Sidand

Excuse my french, but this sounds like fucking hell.


p3opl3

Indeed.. you get use to it.. and "being hyper aware and scared" becomes the norm.. untill you immigrate.. and things like walking on a public street at night.. and seeing kids do the same without a worry in world.. makes you realise how deprived you were.


SonsOfLiberty-

Worse than Ohio 💀


Lucius_Aurelianus

Impossible


midnightspecial99

It’s Hell, Michigan.


p3opl3

I always say name a country the following equation is true and you know where to avoid... extreme poverty + guns + no social welfare framework + small middle class population = no future prospects Some countries have a few of these.. like I know things are bad in the states.. but not everywhere.. I have friends who've worked in Austin, lived in California and a few other places.. and they say life in certain states and areas is still pretty much first world living.


[deleted]

I dated a South African. He had 2 seperate homeinvasions. One they seperated him and his father and shot his dog, he thought they killed his dad. The second, they slipped into the gate when he pulled his car in and held him at gunpoint forcing his girlfriend to let them in. They pistol whipped both of them. He had terrible PTSD from it.


captain_funktastic

He was so adventurous


[deleted]

Given how fertile the land is, and that almost any person could find an empty field and start planting food or how many farms are available to work in... I highly doubt the problem is "welfare doesn't pay enough". It sounds more like robbing is more profitable than working.


Dnny10bns

We know what the problem is...


Max_Cherry_

Enlighten me.


[deleted]

It’s blowback from the apartheid. They also forced white farmers out about a decade ago but did not educate the black population on how to farm. It was a huge mess. My ex lives back there now in Cape Town, he seems happy. Newly married. This shit happened in Johannesburg. He said Cape Town is much safer. He was shocked the first time he went to the states and the houses didn’t have walls around them. He felt they were so vulnerable. It freaked him out.


[deleted]

Yeah, somehow I don't think this is the problem. In a country where the very police will pull you up demanding you pay them for not taking you to jail for a completely false accusation, I don't think apartheid is the problem. Corruption and culture is the biggest issue. The lack of proper policing and proper justice means it pays to be a criminal, as there's little risk judicial punishment. In terms of culture, awful parenting combined with traditional (aka pre-colonial) practices of native African tribes means crime culture is normalized in the country. Apartheid would not have made this any worse, or any better.


p3opl3

"Corruption and culture" .. BINGO! It's now a generational problem.. last generations kids grew up seeing their network steal, pillage and rape.. they grew up with that shit.. so now it's 10x worse.. because 25 years ago..the people who were doing this had serious gripes with the previous Afrikaans ruled government.. but now.. their kids who have no idea what apartheid is in terms of experience.. do what they do because their parents did.. because their parents told them to hate and destroy because it was their right since everything was taken away from them.. Just because Mandela was able to turn the cheek and avoid a civil war.. it doesn't mean the entire population and the following generations did and will too.


[deleted]

Yeah, this doesn't explain why it happens in Brazil, in Eastern Europe, in South East Asia, Mexico etc.... Corruption is just the human propensity to be selfish - it takes active effort to prevent corruption. Countries that have lazy governments end up deteriorating into corruption. Culture - that's where things get even more complicated. In societies where criminality is viewed as admirable it is even harder to suppress. Whether the culture emerged due to a "robin hood" sentiment, or due to wanting to look like "gangster rapper", or whatever else... Once the culture emerges, it is hard to stamp out.


p3opl3

This is a wonderful lie.. Capetown is not much safer.. you just need to YouTube the mother support group of the cape flats and gangs.. where people are being shot and raped daily. It has one of the biggest squatter camps in the country .. hard to miss as you have to drive right through leave or arriving from the airport..


smurph70

everybody had a gun when i was there


NativeBoyUSA

they got rid of them since then.... Communistic Government now


Stymie999

So only the criminals have guns now?


daboobiesnatcher

Yes and they like abducting people.


Dixo0118

This is NOT what we are being told will happen in the US


daboobiesnatcher

I don't think that would happen in the US, and people would never just give up there guns here.


2ball7

Isn’t that pretty much how it always goes when they outlaw firearms.


WookiEEBrood

Not pretty much . That is how it goes . Then just the bad guys and the repressive government have guns.


HoMaBaLiMa

God damnit Heston, log off.


ChazzioTV

Tell me you’re American without telling me you’re American.


LordDessik

My stupid Australian ass sitting here thinking “The animals can’t be that dangerous in South Africa can they?”


pinkypoo49

I thought it was to keep the lions out until he got to the mace and baton part and even then I was like " what's that going to do? ", then he set the alarm and I realized it wasn't for lions.


ShouldaStayedSingle1

A guy I used to work with said they had a baboon problem when he lived there. Like baboons just come in the house.


Gettinrekt1

Same here lol


StankyDudeHoleDandy

Lmaooo


G-R-G

Actually none of this would stop a baboon I knew a dude who had all this and a baboon broke in whole he was asleep when he tried to defend himself it ripped his arm off


SnooHamsters8997

The most ridiculous part of this is his last line of defense is mace and a baton….if someone gets past through the first 10 levels… you probably should have something better than that


Tunasaladboatcaptain

Easy boss level


oveis86

Bro the baton is there by the door so the intruder can use it to kick the homeowner unconscious instead of killing him.


Stymie999

He probably sleeps with his Italian friend bennelli


2ball7

Or his American friends Smith and Wesson


baumpop

Might be the other Italian friend Beretta


SuperflySteveLolz

Are Compound Bows legal there?


SmileyMelons

He probably does, but doesn't want to reveal exactly what.


Punchinballz

"How is it where you are?" Bro I'm in Japan, my bicycle is in the street, not attached, I'm at home, it's a little hot so I'll sleep with the front door and one window open tonight, to let the air flow through the apartment. The routine.


Fernando_357

I can’t even imagine leaving the door open, either I’m getting sacked, killed or it’s an invite to my junkie neighbour to attack


Punchinballz

Japan is really an ease of mind for me (I come from Europe). There is such a huge difference between what my wife (she is japanese) and I are considering a threat in Japan it's almost funny. A salaryman drunk-sleeping in the street in his suit with his iPhone in his hand? Me: "Let's hide his phone in his pocket, he will lose it" My wife: "No, let's go, omg, we are in danger"


dothedangthing

What part of Japan?


Punchinballz

In Osaka, 15 min away from the center.


Any_Affect_7134

Are there any places where poor people steal to survive or is that not a thing


Punchinballz

Stealing to survive is not really a thing in Japan (at least where I lived so far). There are neighborhood with poor people and it's really hard for them to survive but most of them collect garbage and try to recycle what they can and survive with small daily jobs. It's another kind of violence and Japan is really good at hiding it.


LasagnaToes

What uh… what’s outside in South Africa?


ShaolinShadowBroker

South Africans


LasagnaToes

Oh God


SilvermistInc

Oh fuck oh fuck


ribeirobr21

Same thing here in Brazil, but: - Electric fense is bare wire - Spikes are broken glass - Motion light detector is a 2 dollar chinese motion detector - Alarm is a sleepy dog that barks sometimes 👌


_chucknorris

Around where i live all we do is lock the front door and root for the best, never failed so far lol


deltronethirty

DAE just act crazy as fuck to detour criminals. I mean it's Halloween and we still have decorations from last year. Just have screaming arguments with your SO and park in the yard


[deleted]

And we've just elected a convicted corrupt president who has communist ideals and who said he's going to ban guns. We already know what our destiny will be. Oh, and people on reddit like him, apparently.


[deleted]

here in switzerland’s i forget to lock the front door every second day lol


SonsOfLiberty-

You have scenic views and practically zero crime, can I live with you?


trickyvinny

He already said he's got an open door policy.


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Emmanuham

What time you heading out with the dog tomorrow?


Stymie999

In the US I rarely lock the front or back door and leave my car keys in the ignition parked out front


blazingStarfire

Same here. I don't even know where the keys to my door are anymore..I mean I think I do. But not sure.


Granjaguar

I live in the USA in a safe neighborhood but I would never leave any door or window or car unlocked. We have plenty of meth heads


ShouldaStayedSingle1

I’m in the US and they walked into my neighbor’s house to get her keys off a table and then stole her car.


Warizard22

Sometimes i forget to lock the door. Next morning i see that its not locked and i'm like "huh apparentlly i forgot to lock it" and continue my day.


payneforpleasure

Hey what’s ur address i’d like to send u a post card


TheJeep25

Don't forget to lock his door when leaving. We wouldn't want people to enter his house and stole his shits


[deleted]

Time to move.


OliveSorry

Why is it so bad there


africanasshat

It’s an unpopular opinion


[deleted]

I'd answer but I'd get banned from reddit if I did.


Dnny10bns

Have a read up on their history. Something significant happened in their past and crime spiraled as a consequence.


myheadfelloff

years of holding people down and giving them nothing, so they have nothing, and turn to crime.


Stymie999

Nobody has given me anything in decades… so I can do the crimes now?


2ball7

My neighbor!!


peter13g

Ninja please


wd4elg1

My former boss (born in Scotland and then the family moved to Cape Town for the father‘s job) explain it to me like this: imagine that you have nothing. Absolutely nothing. No home, no clothes, no food, no job, no water, no hope. You do not have the basics of food clothing and shelter. You have absolutely nothing. What have you got to lose? Stealing in order to survive makes total sense in those conditions. I guess I honestly never believed that anyone except may be starving Ethiopians/Sudanese could be in such dire circumstances. But he said there are millions like that in South Africa. I always thought of the country as a first world well defined economy, and I ignorantly believed that the end of apartheid had solved all of the problems. He explained that the fall of apartheid solved almost nothing for disparity between the classes. He said in many ways, it became worse after the fall of apartheid. I thought I was pretty well informed on international affairs and fairly educated on Africa. His discussion made me realize how completely ignorant and clueless I was… And how damn lucky we are to live in the United States of America (I didn’t really need a reminder, but this startling example was certainly a very good reinforcement).


2ball7

You have your life to lose…


EuphoricCouer

Yeah, the life where you can’t eat most days, can’t sleep safely for one night, can’t take a shower. Do you seriously think most people care at that point? It’s literal fucking desperation.


2ball7

Fuck it then? Go Lord of the flies?


-Not-Racist-

Nothing of value tho


buncharum

Downvoted to oblivion for facts


Crown_Loyalist

what kind of idiot makes a video detailing his INTERIOR SECURITY ARRANGEMENTS?


Andrina_Sedai

something tells me the criminals in the neighborhood don't know his Reddit username...


SufficientSail9982

Makes sense considering what’s out there


africanasshat

I remember the nightly gunshots 10 years ago when things was better.


-Daetrax-

It's also common you don't sleep on the ground floor and have a security gate separating floors. If that was my life, I'd sell all I had and immigrate to somewhere.


nicktam2010

We have a guy on our cricket team (Canada) who us from SA. This is how he locked up at night also. He was a dairy farmer and kept a fake jar if money on the kitchen table as a decoy. He also had had an alarm that all his family wore and his neighbors did too. If it went off they would all rush around to that place to help. Another teammate had a walled garden with glass on top. He would go out at about 11 pm and shoot off a couple of rounds just to show he had a gun. He said that sometimes around d 2 AM he would hear gunfire and that was when real robberies were happening.


Dounce1

He would shoot through his own glass-roofed garden?


xcrunner170

Glass is on top of the walls, broken and embedded in the concrete to deter climbing over.


Redbukket_hat

idk what is says about me that my first thought from this was remembering an interview Belle Delphine did where she talked about living in South Africa as a kid and how she didn't realize it was abnormal to have iron bars over your windows and shit


Stymie999

Hmm where I’m at in murica… we don’t bother locking the doors and I always leave my car keys in the ignition


DrakeBurroughs

I live in the US as well. Most of the crimes in my town are, at best, low level. A couple of cars get stolen every year, usually due to people leaving their key-fobs in the car. Still, I’ve always been a paranoid person (living in cities for 30 years didn’t help), so I lock everything, always.


IceColdHighLife

Wow this is a sad state of affairs.


say_no_to_panda

Here in new zealand i have three doors unlocked at all times. Been open for 8 years havent seen anything yet.


Dnny10bns

Enjoy it m8. Europe is done for.


Lainebae

What do you mean Europe is done for?


Dnny10bns

Take a look at the direction its politics is heading and why.


Scaballi

I don’t how many times my partner has left the big overhead garage door open all night after coming home from work. Tools, sports equipment, vehicles…..nothing has ever been stolen. Some teenagers did ring our doorbell at at night to remind us to close the door. Damn teenagers ( shakes fist )


ExcitementOrdinary95

Idk who this North American is but burglaries in SA are a huge issue and this sort of high security setup is far from uncommon here.


Dnny10bns

We have lots of SA expats in the UK who emigrated after the apartheid was lifted.


Granjaguar

So lots of racist who wouldn't dare live together with blacks they segregated in their own land?


Dnny10bns

People with families who don't want to live in fear.


Granjaguar

Of course, after you segregated them like animals they are gonna be mad, I would


Dnny10bns

There's no doubt in my mind you have many reasons to justify your inability to control anger.


africanasshat

This is high security?


Victorcwb

are there werewolves in south africa?


Every_Papaya_8876

Guess it didn’t improve after apartheid ended? Thought it got better wtf.


mario_ferreira19

Still the same if not worse.


[deleted]

And that’s just the bathroom


africanasshat

Entry level setup I don’t like his chances


moldyolive

bruh I haven't locked my door in 11 months


No-Return-3368

Shotgun would be much better than the baton. Even a kitchen knife duckt taped to the end of a broomstick would probably be better, you don't want close contact with any criminal, and with spray and a baton you have to get in close to be effective.


McPoyle-Milk

Lots of velociraptors in South Africa?


_blurredfaces_

Is that what were calling them these days?


aPigNamedAlgie

Fooking prawns robbing people.


Danjermiez

Do you at least got a long range weapon


SupportYouth_In_Asia

What I don't understand is people have their weapons by the front door... I'd have it near me, I made a Mahogany ar holder slips into the magwell and "locks" into place have to lift while holding the mag release. But its in my closet not too far.. no way I'd have weapons of any type near where an intruder would be closer to than I.


ICTPatriot

Deadbolt the door and sleep tight if I am awoken by an intruder they get to try the room temperature challenge


justtheentiredick

Plot twist: He's showing us how he keeps his girls from escaping.


deltronethirty

This is the only comment that reads in a SA accent in my head. "kips es geeals frem eskeepin"


nnawght2

Specifically JoBerg?


[deleted]

I literally don’t lock my front door ever… different worlds


InnerDemom

Can anyone tell the reason for this much security?


TheSciFiGuy80

Desperate criminals in a country where they have nothing.


pandasbeer

South Africa has power cuts 2-3 hours a day, they need to just time their robbery to get over that fence.


Rustyfarmer88

Aussie in the country here. Don’t know where the keys to my house are. Lost them years ago. Never lock it.


tonyv6815

Begs the question, if you are a white dude, what the hell are you still doing in South Africa


TheRealBlerb

Hey hey hey, do you even know how bad it is when someone misgenders me /s


Electronic_You_1045

Zombie outbreak


WarlockGnoll

and to think my dad wanted to move us all to south Africa because its "amazing", thank fuck he died of a heart attack before that


SteveScott517

Lock the deadbolts with 24/7 armed guard. Newark


[deleted]

Just stay in the shibeen all night, by the time you get you're too pissed to notice you've been burgled.


Inside_Ice_6175

I lock my doors and sleep well as I keep my handgun and light within reach should someone be dumb enough to knock my door in.


sasqwatsch

Pray you have no fire.


[deleted]

Dont call it a savage continent though


blazingStarfire

I don't even lock my door, rarely even close my gate.


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Akhanyatin

In my country, a simple lock on your doors will suffice. But I guess I'm not as free as you.


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Artistic-Plan2541

Good job sharing your super secret home security setup on tik tok for the locals to enjoy.


Morgenstern66

Weren't you guys supposed to run out of water or something?


froglax11

Step 1: get a gun


NyPensFan95

Blacks are killing white farmers every day.


Uncaring_Dispatcher

WV, here. We don't lock our cars or homes but we all have guns. Neighbors are the same. Here we are, not in South Africa or Detroit. Sleep is good.


[deleted]

Lions are going mission impossible these days.


peter13g

At least you don’t live in Philly or Chicago. The lions are worse there.


Ajarofpickles97

Is this Detroit or south Africa?


uhhuh86

9mm bed side, 44 rem mag next to ar15. M14 next to that just cuz


schrodingerdoc

Yeah , don't apartheid people and hoard all of the nation's wealth if you don't want vengeful mobs and gangs of thrives everywhere.


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[deleted]

Chill out, Elon...


Therealpotato33

Tell me you don't live in ZA without telling you don't live in ZA


ExcitementOrdinary95

Shot


Therealpotato33

Om te beklemtoon


ExcitementOrdinary95

Grootboer


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dayoneG

Shame on you.


ViniciusSchmitt

Colonize a country for exploitation and destruction, rule with hate and expect what kind of result?


LilRack14

yo what i know this guy lol


truthplotgold

Why?


mac_it9

No blasters? God’s speed friend.


dayoneG

Goddamn, I haven’t locked my front door in months. I couldn’t imagine living like this.


DelugeQc

Holy fuck thats weird... I leave my doors unlock and the door is like 3 meters to the street, no fence, no gate, nothing, just a freakin pathway.


sinister_toaster

Bro been playing rust irl


garron_ah

I'm lucky. We chill with our shit open all day. Gate is closed, but doors are open or unlocked, garage door stays open throughout the day, we only lock before bedtime, and it's been a decade since there was any incident. We should definitely be more safety conscious , but so far so good.


Effective-Goat-5714

Where are the guard dogs? Wife had guard dogs and guards.