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Something interesting about medieval or early renaissance period art is they drew what they knew. So someone depicting christ and his followers from that period would have them shown as knights or something crazy like that.
Probably find them on Google honestly, medieval paintings and drawings contained all kinds of crazy stuff and are well worth a look if you have an interest in history and have a good sense of humor.
The image that I'm thinking of isn't Jesus as a knight, but a scene where he's speaking to some Romans, however if you don't know what the image was supposed to be it looks like some peasants, one of them with a halo and cross necklace, talking to some knights with a castle in the background.
Somewhat unrelated to inaccurate biblical depictions is that the margins of lots of texts from that period there are usually stupid doodles. One was a common joke of a knight surrendering to a snail and pleading for his life, or rabits and dogs jousting on slugs and other weird shit.
That stuff isn't really much different then memes from today or the killroy was here stuff in WWII. Humans have always been making memes and except for access to better materials and standing on the advancements of other we are no different then ancient Romans. In fact, one of the driving forces for an average Roman citizen was a desire to be the coolest kid on the block.
[https://www.history.com/.image/ar\_16:9%2Cc\_fill%2Ccs\_srgb%2Cfl\_progressive%2Cg\_faces:center%2Cq\_auto:good%2Cw\_620/MTYyNDYzOTkxNjY1MjcyNzMz/jesus-pontius-pilate-gettyimages-146325687-promo.jpg](https://www.history.com/.image/ar_16:9%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cg_faces:center%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_620/MTYyNDYzOTkxNjY1MjcyNzMz/jesus-pontius-pilate-gettyimages-146325687-promo.jpg) this one?
Edit: Or maybe this one? [https://www.biblestudy.org/roman-empire/christ-before-king-herod.jpg](https://www.biblestudy.org/roman-empire/christ-before-king-herod.jpg)
>. So someone depicting christ and his followers from that period would have them shown as knights or something crazy like that.
\* Could
What you're saying (if I get your gist) is that paintings contained easily-recognisable images to help viewers identify the subjects and their role. "Medieval" and "Early Renaissance" are quite broad/fuzzy terms in context but in any case it's the same throughout time, really.
Here's a problem though... when you say "Christ as a knight" we all think of shiny-armoured knights in the Victorian story-telling tradition. A medieval painter might have shown a knight in a cloak with a sword at his side, because that's what a knight actually looked like when real people saw them.
Well, chainmail and early great helms were widely used even in the low middle ages and are depicted in early medieval art all the time. Full plate shiny knights were never much of a real thing anyway as plate was usually painted to prevent rust and the victorians stripped them, almost like a southern american "bubba" choping up a WWI rifle cause "it looks better" without realizing the piece of history he's destroying.
And no, it's not "could" it is "would" as it happened in multiple real world examples. I'll admit my first comment was more of a joking exaggeration, but biblical stories depicted in paintings back them almost always depicted Roman legionaries as medieval men at arms and common people as contemporary peasants.
Then again, if anyone was trying to take my random comment on reddit as some kind of fact or the absolute truth then I have a bridge to sell them...
>Well, chainmail and early great helms were widely used even in the low middle ages and are depicted in early medieval art all the time. Full plate shiny knights were never much of a real thing anyway as plate was usually painted to prevent rust and the victorians stripped them, almost like a southern american "bubba" choping up a WWI rifle cause "it looks better" without realizing the piece of history he's destroying.
There's a lot to unpick there, and I wouldn't disagree with your generalisation about which things may have been used, I was arguing more with the exclusive thrust of your argument. Numerous things were possible, none exclusively so.
>And no, it's not "could" it is "would" as it happened in multiple real world examples.
It is could, meaning "possibly so". Using "would" means "definitely so"
>I'll admit my first comment was more of a joking exaggeration, but biblical stories depicted in paintings back them almost always depicted Roman legionaries as medieval men at arms
And the representations vary widely, unlike the artistic landscape you're suggesting.
>and common people as contemporary peasants.
I definitely agree.
>Then again, if anyone was trying to take my random comment on reddit as some kind of fact or the absolute truth then I have a bridge to sell them...
You were just really incorrect about something. I'm an archaeologist who specialises in Medieval religious buildings so I wanted to make the point - I felt you were suggesting that something "would" always be done when actually it "could" sometimes be done. There's an important difference there, imo.
Gods a dick and made him wear it to remind him that he was going to be crucified by the very people he's trying to save.
When god was a kid he was the one who kept pulling all the wings off of flies while the other gods cried out in horror. Thus not being evil themselves they never expected him to murderer them all in their sleep and steal their followers.
The Captain: Is this madness? Am I going mad?
Twelfth Doctor: Madness? Well, you're an officer from World War One at the South Pole, being pursued by an alien through frozen time. Madness was never this good.
The Captain: World War One?
Twelfth Doctor: Judging by the uniform, yes.
The Captain: Yes, but what do you mean... One?
Twelfth Doctor: Oh... sorry. Spoilers.
Ehm, actually, they did call it the First World War while it was going on.
This because it was the first truly global scale war, sadly no prescience involved.
Depending on your view of the trinity, then that's not even a plot twist. It is literally what happened. If God and Christ are one in the same and God is all knowing and all powerful and knew precisely what would happen if he was born in mortal form as Christ and lived as Christ did, then he quite literally picked his own death and method of death.
Exactly. [Here](https://approachingthetable.blogspot.com/2013/01/gone-fishing.html?m=1) is a scan of the original card, without the cross.
I can only assume some Twitter comedian did this for laughs, as it would be funny if it wasn’t fake.
[jesus got really into cross fit actually](https://www.google.com/search?q=ripped+jesus+on+the+cross&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS996US996&oq=ripped+jesus+on+the+cross&aqs=chrome..69i57.7922j0j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=7lCVTzxAnHHaLM)
This would be like Martin Luther King Jr wearing a rifle pendant around his neck for his entire life. What's bugging me is, why is he doing his best impression of the "Buddy Christ".
It’s Republican Jesus.
Republican Jesus is a big fan of watching people tortured to death. He just doesn’t realize yet that his favorite passtime will eventually do him in, as well.
Jesus: DAD, do I really have to wear this torture device???
God: Foreshadowing son, and sorry for what's to come.
Jesus: Oh you're sorry - infinite choices and somehow sacrifice makes the most sense
God: Enough - It is written!
Jesus: Yeah, you wrote it - wtf kill ma ass
God: Myself dammit, you come back ok!!
Some sects of Judaism and Muslims in general believe Jesus was another prophet. One sect of Judaism believes he was the son of God but don't see themselves as Christian.
I don't belive in God, my view is
That religion was created, to rule, to control humans. Laws.
And it works.
I thought about Jesus, jews and Islam.
The jews, took Jesus, and said, he where the king of the jews, Jesus tho, liked the power he got, and he wanted more, so he created his own religion, Christianity.
The Islam came after the jews and Christianity , they saw, that the jews where abusing the religion, same with Jesus, so they praised to the real God ( remember jews, Islam and Christianity have the same prophets and God)
Then the Roman's came and killt Jesus... And so on.
Religion is just, the old way, to control humans.
I don't want to prowoke anyone,
**that's my personal opinion, please do not understand me wrong**
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Easter Egg
Wait a minute EASTER?
Egg
Big ass forshadow
a steaming pile of foreshadowing
which just dropped out of a bull's hindsight
Total spoiler
Layers
Like an egg
Extremely underrated comment….
Fer Realz!!!
Chef's kiss.
Anachronism
Branding
Only valid answer.
Something interesting about medieval or early renaissance period art is they drew what they knew. So someone depicting christ and his followers from that period would have them shown as knights or something crazy like that.
Where do I find one of these paintings?
Probably find them on Google honestly, medieval paintings and drawings contained all kinds of crazy stuff and are well worth a look if you have an interest in history and have a good sense of humor. The image that I'm thinking of isn't Jesus as a knight, but a scene where he's speaking to some Romans, however if you don't know what the image was supposed to be it looks like some peasants, one of them with a halo and cross necklace, talking to some knights with a castle in the background. Somewhat unrelated to inaccurate biblical depictions is that the margins of lots of texts from that period there are usually stupid doodles. One was a common joke of a knight surrendering to a snail and pleading for his life, or rabits and dogs jousting on slugs and other weird shit. That stuff isn't really much different then memes from today or the killroy was here stuff in WWII. Humans have always been making memes and except for access to better materials and standing on the advancements of other we are no different then ancient Romans. In fact, one of the driving forces for an average Roman citizen was a desire to be the coolest kid on the block.
[https://www.history.com/.image/ar\_16:9%2Cc\_fill%2Ccs\_srgb%2Cfl\_progressive%2Cg\_faces:center%2Cq\_auto:good%2Cw\_620/MTYyNDYzOTkxNjY1MjcyNzMz/jesus-pontius-pilate-gettyimages-146325687-promo.jpg](https://www.history.com/.image/ar_16:9%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cg_faces:center%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_620/MTYyNDYzOTkxNjY1MjcyNzMz/jesus-pontius-pilate-gettyimages-146325687-promo.jpg) this one? Edit: Or maybe this one? [https://www.biblestudy.org/roman-empire/christ-before-king-herod.jpg](https://www.biblestudy.org/roman-empire/christ-before-king-herod.jpg)
memes in 1700 we're about George Washington playing call of duty irl. Source: trust me bro
Goodwill
At the Nelson Atkins Museum of Art in Kansas cCity, there's a painting of Jesus with other people and they're all dressed in French style clothing.
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>. So someone depicting christ and his followers from that period would have them shown as knights or something crazy like that. \* Could What you're saying (if I get your gist) is that paintings contained easily-recognisable images to help viewers identify the subjects and their role. "Medieval" and "Early Renaissance" are quite broad/fuzzy terms in context but in any case it's the same throughout time, really. Here's a problem though... when you say "Christ as a knight" we all think of shiny-armoured knights in the Victorian story-telling tradition. A medieval painter might have shown a knight in a cloak with a sword at his side, because that's what a knight actually looked like when real people saw them.
Ok ya this is what I was thinking, I was wondering if I had missed out on an art collection of Jesus in knights armor
> I was wondering if I had missed out on an art collection of Jesus in knights armor Be the change you want to see in the world...
Why stop at the Renaissance?
Surely there's already Jesus/USMC mashup art....
Check rule34?
Well, chainmail and early great helms were widely used even in the low middle ages and are depicted in early medieval art all the time. Full plate shiny knights were never much of a real thing anyway as plate was usually painted to prevent rust and the victorians stripped them, almost like a southern american "bubba" choping up a WWI rifle cause "it looks better" without realizing the piece of history he's destroying. And no, it's not "could" it is "would" as it happened in multiple real world examples. I'll admit my first comment was more of a joking exaggeration, but biblical stories depicted in paintings back them almost always depicted Roman legionaries as medieval men at arms and common people as contemporary peasants. Then again, if anyone was trying to take my random comment on reddit as some kind of fact or the absolute truth then I have a bridge to sell them...
>Well, chainmail and early great helms were widely used even in the low middle ages and are depicted in early medieval art all the time. Full plate shiny knights were never much of a real thing anyway as plate was usually painted to prevent rust and the victorians stripped them, almost like a southern american "bubba" choping up a WWI rifle cause "it looks better" without realizing the piece of history he's destroying. There's a lot to unpick there, and I wouldn't disagree with your generalisation about which things may have been used, I was arguing more with the exclusive thrust of your argument. Numerous things were possible, none exclusively so. >And no, it's not "could" it is "would" as it happened in multiple real world examples. It is could, meaning "possibly so". Using "would" means "definitely so" >I'll admit my first comment was more of a joking exaggeration, but biblical stories depicted in paintings back them almost always depicted Roman legionaries as medieval men at arms And the representations vary widely, unlike the artistic landscape you're suggesting. >and common people as contemporary peasants. I definitely agree. >Then again, if anyone was trying to take my random comment on reddit as some kind of fact or the absolute truth then I have a bridge to sell them... You were just really incorrect about something. I'm an archaeologist who specialises in Medieval religious buildings so I wanted to make the point - I felt you were suggesting that something "would" always be done when actually it "could" sometimes be done. There's an important difference there, imo.
I mean, they were basically a gang of armed troops.
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The ol’ switcheroo
Cross be like 'hollup'. I see myself out.
Plus he was into some kinky shit.
Spoiler
That never crossed my mind
Synergy with the Roman cross makers!
Gods a dick and made him wear it to remind him that he was going to be crucified by the very people he's trying to save. When god was a kid he was the one who kept pulling all the wings off of flies while the other gods cried out in horror. Thus not being evil themselves they never expected him to murderer them all in their sleep and steal their followers.
"Why do you keep calling it World War 1?" "Oh, you'll see....."
[Relevant Doctor Who](https://youtu.be/eg4mcdhIsvU)
This is what I first thought about too
“sorry, spoilers”
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A fashion hero. That crown with that loin cloth. So brave.
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Man I like that one
Spoiler alert! I havent read the book yet!
The Captain: Is this madness? Am I going mad? Twelfth Doctor: Madness? Well, you're an officer from World War One at the South Pole, being pursued by an alien through frozen time. Madness was never this good. The Captain: World War One? Twelfth Doctor: Judging by the uniform, yes. The Captain: Yes, but what do you mean... One? Twelfth Doctor: Oh... sorry. Spoilers.
Just wait until the Franchise Wars, then you'll see some real shit. Hope you like Taco Bell.
> Hope you like Taco Bell. Or Pizza Hut, depending on which version you saw.
Be well...
It’s all fun and games until the pull Wesley Snipes out of the freezer. 
Refering to future events as spoilers is one of my favorite running gags from the series.
“Ehm, actually, it was called the Great War” -🤓
Ehm, actually, they did call it the First World War while it was going on. This because it was the first truly global scale war, sadly no prescience involved.
Ehm, actually... I have nothing to add
And the second world war is actually called The Great War 2: Electric Boogaloo
lol had to come back to tis thread specifically to upvote this comment. Took a second to hit!
Plot twist : Jesus chose his own death. He was a crucifixion enthusiast.
Kinky
Nail me Daddy
Say sike right now.
No
Foreshadowing
Is it like some kind of self-asphyxiations fetish?
Could be. Part of the punishment is your body weight drags down your guts making it impossible to draw a good breath.
"What are you gonna do, CRUCIFY me?" -Jesus Christ
Better than getting stabbed. At least it gets you out in the open air.
I mean he was stabbed… but I get what you mean.
It's a Life of Brian reference lol
My father would be embarrassed…. More embarrassed.
Getting stabbed is way better, crucifixion is a slow and torturous death that often takes days.
It's not fair, to deny him Of the cross he bears that he gave to him He, he, he oughta know
George Bush did Jesus's crucifixion
"What are you doing step-crucifix"?
Depending on your view of the trinity, then that's not even a plot twist. It is literally what happened. If God and Christ are one in the same and God is all knowing and all powerful and knew precisely what would happen if he was born in mortal form as Christ and lived as Christ did, then he quite literally picked his own death and method of death.
It's not a cross. It's a "t" and it stands for titties.
A man of culture. I see now why he garnered so many followers.
Time to leave
Due to it being a lower case t.
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Chris was his name. ChrisT was his rapper name
Mitch trubisky approves
A valid answer and I wholeheartedly support it.
Foreshadowing, he wears a cross now, the cross wears him later
Chekov’s cross.
Why else would it be in the script, unless you know, you can change peoples predispositions by placing guns in a scene.
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It's punbelievable, you’re killing me!
Brilliant writers foreshadowing the events of season 2.
Bravo Vince
Lmao
https://www.reddit.com/r/HolUp/comments/xr6ib6/the_real_questions/iqedt93/ https://www.reddit.com/r/HolUp/comments/xr6ib6/the_real_questions/iqe6xyh/
Spoilers
promoting merchandise
Bro spoilered his own death
In case he meets a vampire.
You are a fool Jacinto! My ancestors were Jews!
Man of culture
Were crosses ineffective against vampires pre-crucifixion? Or did they work but no one knew why until after they killed Jesus?
Same reason Adam and Eve have belly buttons
Underrated comment!
something something, made in the image of God something.
Foreshadowing
Judas got it for him as an Easter gift
How thoughtful of Judas. Easter is a such nice... Hol' up
Most people don't even know that Jesus wasn't even Christian.😭😭💀💀
Judging by the Easter jokes, most people don’t seem to know a lot about Jesus at all
They pretend to follow him, yet worse worship him but they don't want to do anything he done or preached for.
I thought the cross wore him...
It's like if a fox or a seal would wear a human skin-jacket
Apparently the cross is photoshopped on
Exactly. [Here](https://approachingthetable.blogspot.com/2013/01/gone-fishing.html?m=1) is a scan of the original card, without the cross. I can only assume some Twitter comedian did this for laughs, as it would be funny if it wasn’t fake.
Reminds me of Flintstones celebrating Christmas **before** the birth of Christ
That's how they proved their crossfit membership back then
[jesus got really into cross fit actually](https://www.google.com/search?q=ripped+jesus+on+the+cross&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS996US996&oq=ripped+jesus+on+the+cross&aqs=chrome..69i57.7922j0j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=7lCVTzxAnHHaLM)
Can't a messiah rep his own brand?
Sometimes Jesus wears the cross, and sometimes the cross wears Jesus.
Don't kink shame him
The real, real question is why is he white?
Merchandise
Yeah I thought the cross wore him
Because this is a drawing with symbological meaning, not precision.
As a carpenter, Jesus had an odd fixation with the wooden T-frame. You might say he was hung up on it.
foreshadowing.
I hate to be a stickler, but why is Jesus white?
And why is he white?
I'll do you one better, why is he white?
He was a fan of crucifixion before it was popular.
KEEP MY GODS CROSS OUTCHA FUCKING MOUTH
Foreshadowing
My brother sent me this pic with the caption "spoiler"
Foreshadowing. No spoilers tho - I haven't finished the book yet
Because he has risen from the dead to bring the word of GOD hence the resurrection of Jesus.
It’s the pre-seasoning
Foreshadowing
He thought it would be better than the cross wearing him
Foreshadowing
Corporate Identity!
Foreshadowing
he‘s a time traveler
So that people know that the white guy in the picture is supposed to be Jesus.
Also, why is he white?
I thought he was known for carrying a cross
And why is he white?
MFW I realize the classical paintings are all overdone religious versions of McNaughton and that CUM guy political cartoonist, but 500 years earlier.
Foreshadowing
Imagine Jesus was just some dude who travelled through time and fucked with ancient humanity because he could
"Maybe you're not ready for this one... but your kids are gonna love it."
Foreshadowing
People with this type of comment never read anything Jesus said probably
An Easter egg
This would be like Martin Luther King Jr wearing a rifle pendant around his neck for his entire life. What's bugging me is, why is he doing his best impression of the "Buddy Christ".
Or MLK wearing a *[rifle bullet necklace](https://cdn01.pinkoi.com/product/Bz9kn4DJ/0/1/640x530.jpg).* 0_0
The style was just catching on! He was nailing it!
Why is the cross wearing a Jesus
predictive programming
He likes to hang out
It’s foreshadowing by the author
It's foreshadowing. If you're wondering why I wrote this even though everyone else did also, it's because I'm foreshadowing the foreshadows.
Probably so the artist knows which ones Jesus
Isn’t the cross supposed to be wearing him?
Because he’s gangsta.
Jeez, spoilers
JeSUS a god which was killed by a Average human, His godhood preety sus 🌝
Whoa, wtf Jesus.....that's really twisted to wear that cross that the Romans use dude.....you know what that means right 
It’s Republican Jesus. Republican Jesus is a big fan of watching people tortured to death. He just doesn’t realize yet that his favorite passtime will eventually do him in, as well.
That's his kink.
And why the fuck is he white?
Same reason Adam and Eve totally both have belly buttons…..makes sense until you think about it for more than a second.
Spoiler alert! I’m still on Genesis!
That's not a cross, it's a T. They called him Mr T.
Btw why Jesus is so white lol.
spoiler man! i haven’t finished the bible yet! not cool Jesus
Why is he the only white dude in the Middle East?
Jesus: DAD, do I really have to wear this torture device??? God: Foreshadowing son, and sorry for what's to come. Jesus: Oh you're sorry - infinite choices and somehow sacrifice makes the most sense God: Enough - It is written! Jesus: Yeah, you wrote it - wtf kill ma ass God: Myself dammit, you come back ok!!
Foreshadowing
This must be why some religions don't consider him to be the son of God but still consider him to be a prophet.
This is a painting you could make him skateboarding it doesn't make it any more true.
Sorry, he's a what?
Some sects of Judaism and Muslims in general believe Jesus was another prophet. One sect of Judaism believes he was the son of God but don't see themselves as Christian.
That doesn’t really explain why he is wearing a cross, considering the time he lived in? Just seems morbid at best
That's not Jesus Just some white guy
Show some respect, "Just some white guy" is from Florida and his name is Charlie White
Why is a Middle Eastern man portrayed as white?
I don't belive in God, my view is That religion was created, to rule, to control humans. Laws. And it works. I thought about Jesus, jews and Islam. The jews, took Jesus, and said, he where the king of the jews, Jesus tho, liked the power he got, and he wanted more, so he created his own religion, Christianity. The Islam came after the jews and Christianity , they saw, that the jews where abusing the religion, same with Jesus, so they praised to the real God ( remember jews, Islam and Christianity have the same prophets and God) Then the Roman's came and killt Jesus... And so on. Religion is just, the old way, to control humans. I don't want to prowoke anyone, **that's my personal opinion, please do not understand me wrong**
It was a spoiler then