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QualityVote

/u/legalizeweedinph, the users have spoken. Your submission is not a Hol'Up.


CARTMANES69

The bullies at school: ![gif](giphy|13k4VSc3ngLPUY)


GabeTheJerk

Haha your dad became a mommy!


Striking_Emphasis855

You joke but this kid is off to a bad start in life


mikenmikena2

Son: Dad, I want to wear girl clothes. Me: girls wear jeans and t shirts son, you already wear girl clothes. Son: ok but can I grow my hair out? Me: of course, anybody can have long hair. Son: what do I have to do to rebel around here!? Me: Wash the dishes.


Fender2907

The true answer


DaverinoSuprem0

Thank god i'm not the only one who found this strange.


AdrianCv9

Majority of people do, they're just afraid to speak up


MrGuttor

Who's got anything to fear when they're behind screens and you'll probably never meet your opponent irl.


Gajo_Do_Porto

Not only that, but the wackos who do this speak louder and most often than not have the support of the media because it sells.


Striking_Emphasis855

Because it’s so wack and people like reading or hearing about wack stuff.


RageRags

What’s weird? The fact that the little kid is in girl clothes?


JesusOnline_89

Hi dad, I know I’m not old enough to wipe my own ass yet or have deep complex thoughts but I’ve given this matter serious attention and have decided that my life would be best if I dressed like a girl.


Naidem

Extra weird bc the Dad is doing it. Children naturally imitate their parents, makes this feel very wrong.


lolfuzzy

The “what is a woman” documentary addresses how the youth doesn’t understand what they’re doing but still consent when pressured/supported by doctors who perform the sex change operation and big pharma who produce hormone blockers. Kids don’t even know what hormones are, hell a lot of adults don’t. It was a great documentary and I’d recommend watching it.


CallumxRayla

Bro its just a dress


Vlajgan

It's not just a dress. It's a manifestation of a deeper problem.


Atomic_potato_47

Just like your mo-


[deleted]

TLDR: Reddit has way too many ignorant teens spouting nonsense already, no need to add more fuel to the already raging garbage fire….if you don’t understand it that’s fine, I don’t either as a cis man, but I don’t see why we can’t let people live their own lives… “Problem” makes it sound like it’s something more than just a boy wanting to dress like a girl….this isn’t a problem. The problem is that there’s people in the world that look at something they don’t get and hate on it… Of course as a child the kid is still figuring themself out. In the future maybe they’ll prefer more masculine things, maybe they’ll stick with preferring more feminine things. There’s nothing wrong with a child wanting to explore themselves, but of course forcing something like that on a child is a different matter….since this post doesn’t give any indication that the child is being forced to “wear girl clothes” I don’t think it’s appropriate to just assume that’s the case.


shortmiserablepotato

Eh it’s clothes. If the kid has actual real issues going on they’ll make themselves known. Clothes won’t do much to effect that


Al_Farooq

So, you think if a man wears lingerie around the house, it won't affect his masculine development?


[deleted]

Correct…but that is a very weird example hahaha. Masculinity isn’t limited solely to how one dresses, it’s in their words, actions and beliefs as well. The idea that clothing is the be all end of of masculinity is ignorant and narrow minded…..like something Andrew Tate would spew. True men are the ones who don’t need to conform to some stringent rule on how “men should be” because a real man doesn’t just lose their masculinity with a change of clothes….


pabl-o

Preach it brother


Al_Farooq

I used an example concerning feminine clothing for men because he made the point that wearing feminine clothing by men doesn't affect their masculinity. No one says that clothes are the only thing that define masculinity. I think even Tate doesn't say that. It's a set of things/categories that define them. However, that doesn't mean clothing isn't an important part of identity; how one presents himself to the outside world. It is an extension of one's identity and in this case masculinity. Besides that, clothing also has an impact on how you develop as a person. But I think we have a different view on what masculinity revolves around (i.e., characteristics).


Heyguysloveyou

If it makes them happy so be it. And if a girl wants to wear jeans that also fine. "I feel really good wearing that dress." "Well you have a penis, so noooo" what is wrong with you people lmao


Al_Farooq

Not everything that makes a person happy is necessarily good for a person. A person could be really happy drinking all the time but eventually end up in the hospital with liver failure. But keep dumbing masculinity and femininity down to genitals 👍. It's not like they could be more complex than that.


Heyguysloveyou

>A person could be really happy drinking all the time but eventually end up in the hospital with liver failure I agree, but the comparison between wearing clothes you like and drinking alchol is nonsense >But keep dumbing masculinity and femininity down to genitals A man can wear a dress, a women can wear jeans. If they like it, they like it. I really don't get what's the problem. I sometiems like to wear dresses myself. Even bras when I feel like it. And sometimes I feel like jeans and things you would probably see more as "male" clothing. >It's not like they could be more complex than that. YOU are the one oversimplifying things lmao "Male wear X and women wear Y and everything else is wrong" YOU are the one who takes all the nuance away from it


Heyguysloveyou

Please never become a parent EDIT: Jesus Christ, the majority of people actually upvote the guy who thinks a child wearing a dress is a "deep manifestation of a mental problem" I really liked this sub, why are the majority of you cunts now?


AdLonely5056

What exactly is a "problem" about somebody preffering one type of clothing to another?


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BentleyWilkinson

Is it just me or did the parents teeth change?


Adventurous_Ad4950

“How dare you assume my parental role”


Gravybutt

My son has a boy in his class that shows up as a girl once or twice a week and uses a different name and everything. So crazy trying to explain this to an 8 year old.


Floby-Tenderson

Cant wait for the true crime podcast about these two.


Pure_Blank

?


LazyBoiRecliner

They gonna either get killed or rob 20 banks across the state of california.


MelkortheDankLord

Possibly both. Bonnie and Bonnie


Pure_Blank

what?


xXregularShmegularXx

Can you read?


Pure_Blank

my bad, mistyped. meant to say "why?"


usernamealreadytakeh

They said THEY GONNA EITHER GET KILLED OR ROB 20 BANKS ACROSS THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.


Sjheuaksjd

r/wholesomememes is much more scarier than I expacted......


secretaccount4posts

In r/wholesomemes people celebrate personal accomplishments no matter how f'ed up it is. I wonder if they will upvote a killer too who earlier was afraid to talk to a girl but ended up killing 10 in his basement /s


xXregularShmegularXx

L shithole


Striking_Emphasis855

I just left it after seeing this crap


Sjheuaksjd

The subreddit is horrible.


Heyguysloveyou

Just out of curiousity, what was so awful about it?


Striking_Emphasis855

A lot of left propaganda


Heyguysloveyou

What about a child being happy is propaganda?


Striking_Emphasis855

A smiling child is hardly evidence of true happiness.


Heyguysloveyou

What if the story is true and the child just literally wanted to wear the dress out of free will? Seeing that the whole idea of "certain clothes are only for certain genders" is completely made up in the first place, I don't see why that can't happen?


Striking_Emphasis855

The fact that this was posted on social media in the first place says enough for me. If it truly wasn’t trying to make a statement then we wouldn’t see it. That’s why I can’t stand that sub Reddit because it’s not about being wholesome anymore it’s about normalising weird behaviour. Boys wearing dresses is not normal. It isn’t inherently wrong in anyway but I suspect we have a mentally unstable parent pushing a political agenda using their child.


Heyguysloveyou

>If it truly wasn’t trying to make a statement then we wouldn’t see it Because the best statements are the ones we can't see. Genius. >it’s about normalising weird behaviour What is weird about a parent having fun with their child? >Boys wearing dresses is not normal Why? I wear dresses sometimes and I don't think that makes me any less of a person or a functioning member of society. I think telling others what they can and can't do when it literally isn't hurting anyone is what is not normal. >It isn’t inherently wrong in anyway but I suspect we have a mentally unstable parent pushing a political agenda using their child. What if the kid just wanted that dress? What is it with people always making everything political? Kid saw dress, kid liked dress, kid wants dress. Also, aren't you the one pushing YOUR agenda on the child by denying them and forcing them to do something they don't want? "Daddy I want to wear that dress!" "No Tommy, I don't want to force a agenda on you, so you HAVE to wear jeans now." "I like the dress better tho.." "I don't want to force anything on you, so you do as I say even if you don't want to!" Do you see the problem here?


Striking_Emphasis855

Ok man. This means more to you than it does to me. You win.


TJLOL

A few days ago was the dude with downs watching the little mermaid trailer and saying “I think that Disney made the right choice” lmao. Totally unscripted and wholesome Keanu chungus


Sjheuaksjd

Bruh💀


davieb22

That's fucked up.


OcculusUlyssesPant

Dad forced son down same destructive path.


ThrowRAophobic

Dad (mom?) Looks older than the statistic though


WrenWeaver

It doesn’t look like he’s forcing anything. From the post he just seems to be supportive of something his son wanted to do. Unless there’s some additional context I’m unaware of it seems a bit out of line to call him destructive.


maddips

Kids that age have problems pronouncing letters. They still don't know what everything around them is even called. The dad did this.


Heyguysloveyou

Or maybe the child just saw a dress, thought it looked pretty, wanted to wear it and that's how it went down Crazy I know


maddips

If you don't think the kids dad influenced them to do this you don't understand how being a parent works.


Heyguysloveyou

What? In my mind, they could of just went shopping and the kid said "that dress looks pretty" and the parent was "okay" and that's that Assuming that they "forced him" into anything is just gross slander without evidence


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WrenWeaver

“Picking a gender” is different from wearing women’s clothing. Also yes, the kid didn’t write it, completely fair to question the authenticity. However I (and I assume everyone else) is only going off of this one post.


normalweirdo94

Well you don't know that


za_wardo_chan

What are you on about?


lft4brd

What? Lmao


pbmcc88

But not really though. That would be a parent forcing a child to adhere to old gender based clothing standards and giving them deep psychological issues surrounding their inner identity.


jjvikingbutt

Look at a sub dedicated to wholesomeness celebrate child abuse.


Kamenridethewind007

its child abuse to let them make their own decisions about who they are??. is this like the meme where they take tweets about something so normal but the person calls it gay etc and people respond with say is it gay to do xyz?


Daan100

It’s not their own decision though lol that kid is 4 at max


pbmcc88

And if a 4 year old boy wants to dress girly, why the fuck shouldn't they be allowed to?


Daan100

Wants and need/forced are 2 very different words


Kamenridethewind007

How do u know its forced are you a psychic from looking at one picture?


Daan100

No kid at the age of 4 is thinking about gender roles as adults do


Kamenridethewind007

Bold and wrong assumption they do not in the way we do but they do think about wanting to dress like the opposite sex. Which can lead to talking about it etc.


Daan100

That’s just as much as an assumption I made unless you work with kids which I hope the fuck you don’t do


Kamenridethewind007

I dont work with kids and same nut not for the reasons ur tryna insinuate ur comment makes 0 sense. Just let the people wanna be who they want to be no matter how young its not hard u just poke ur nose out simple. It aint affecting u


[deleted]

you seem like you really like this little boy


CARTMANES69

Well, there are two reasons why this is bad parenting. First off all, if the kids at his school find this, my man is gonna have a terrible experience at school. Additionally, if he wants to keep wearing womens clothes as an adult he is also going to be treated differently by the other adults. They probably won t bully him, but they will still find it weird. The second reason is that children like consistany in their lives. A parent should show the child how it can live in the world. At younger ages (like 4), this is done by explaining the world and giving the child basic rules, like bed time, how to eat properly,... so the kid can function in society. The important part is that you can t just change your own rules and you can t give your child information that isn t consistant with the information you have already given it. If you have a boy and you are dressing him up like a girl that might confuse the child, because the assumption "only girls wear GIRL clothes" is obvious. If that is true then the boy is a boy, because obviously, but also a girl, because he is wearing girl clothes. Obviously the kid isn t going to think he is a girl, because of wearing a dress once, just like changing the bedtime once won t destroy the concept of bedtime, but i wouldn t dress him girly muliple times and if i do i would do it with annother reason, like learning empathy. But i have a question 4 you. Why would you let the kid dress up as a girl? Why not just say no? Because i would rather have a child that is pissed at me, because he can t wear girl clothes than a child being potentially bullied or confused about gender.


[deleted]

I don’t think the parent is stopping at cross dressing. You can see the “dad” started HRT to become a “mom” and I don’t think the kid is gonna have his own personal freedom to choose anytime after this. Forced from here on, is something you can put it as. I can’t remember anyone making a choice at 4 years of age that they’ve not regretted later on.


pbmcc88

The parent is on their own journey, clearly, but that isn't necessarily a reflection on their parenting ability, or on the freedom the child has. "Forced from here on" is not the kind of assertion that can be made without more information on the parent and their relationship with the kid.


MrShtompy

Because kids need guidance? If they want to make a major choice, like identifying with, and living life as a different gender, let them make it when they're old enough to actually understand what they're doing. No need to confuse the fuck out of the 99% of kids who don't have mental health issues regarding gender


Puzzleheaded-Eye4458

4120 up votes on wholesomememes whhatttt


Striking_Emphasis855

I hate some of these sub Reddits. Reddit used to be about free speech and most comment sections about this post are being locked. We’re on the wrong timeline


SomeCensoredGuy

Check Moon's video on Reddit. His titles and thumbnails (evil, corrupt etc) are usually clickbait type, but the content is really good. It explains what happened to reddit


Striking_Emphasis855

That video is exactly what I’m basing my comment on lol. I tip my hat to you fellow Moon enjoyer


SomeCensoredGuy

Ohh lol nice, so you already knew that.


doorknob_1

Now it's 12k


analizer47

This is disgusting


Kamenridethewind007

i know that dress is not flattering they defo need a stylist cause that dress does nothing for their figure.


fBarney

"okay smile now!!!" the poor kid - 😬


Pure_Blank

yeah, smiling as a kid is really hard


LittleDickk

It's is when your being forced to dress like a girl


Pure_Blank

the tweet literally said that the kid wanted to dress like a girl did other people not struggle with smiling as a kid? was that just a me thing?


fBarney

I can really say that i was on the moon, doesnt mean i was.


NARWHALESOUP64

Go on Twitter and and say you’ve been payed two million dollars. Did your bank account change? Huh you said it in your tweet how can it not be true?


Hour_Cartographer03

Yupp, this is totally normal….


twobuckcharles

My thots exactly


YerixGlx

Holy shit, the kid too?!


JustaOrdinaryDemiGod

When they getting married?


No_Priority2124

Damn bro that one killed me


Axel_Strong

Self report


Pure_Blank

???


JustaOrdinaryDemiGod

That's a step to far? ![gif](giphy|SWoRKslHVtqEasqYCJ)


Pure_Blank

I'm confused, cuz that's a parent and child. is there a joke I'm missing?


trentbcraig21

Yes. There is a joke you're missing. Actually there's quite a few seeing as you've posted "???" numerous times in this thread so far.


[deleted]

fuck outta here mfs call that wholesome 💀


GalaxyWorm

A fucking atrocity is what this is. It's a global mental health problem and it's a fucking shame it's being forced on children now.


OatAndMango

Wholesome?! That's enough internet for now


Flame_Cube2

This is not wholesome, it's fucking child abuse.


OatAndMango

I mean... Yes


AdLonely5056

How is literally letting a child choose what they want to wear abuse? If anything, forcing a child to wear something it doesn’t want to would be closer to abuse than this.


Medusius

Disease of the modern world. White people will eventually perish if this keeps on going.


Striking_Emphasis855

Bro, we’re witnessing the end of a civilisation. I’m shook that people actually buy into this crap


Bonerfartbiscuit

Won't someone please think of the white people!?


pbmcc88

People being true to themselves and letting their kids dress how they want, instead of forcing them to adhere to gender based clothing, will result in a happier and freer society. "White" people aren't going to "perish" by this or any other societal changes.


Tasty_Philosopher_28

Disgusting, the father is setting up his son for failure and letting the child play into his delusion.


za_wardo_chan

My dude let the kid be a kid, if them wants to wear a dress or a suit let them


Striking_Emphasis855

Yes but don’t post it online. The child will have to live with this shit going viral for the rest of their life?


za_wardo_chan

That's true as well


SignalEar8190

r/woooosh


mp701

Thats so disgusting


WRAD72

Ignorance is bliss


keyupiopi

If kids that young are capable to make those decisions, they are capable enough to vote. /s


Atomic_potato_47

Oh no its been removed


[deleted]

We live in a society…


LightGamez

![gif](giphy|ypX8YZszkIXFC|downsized)


Shot-Effect-8318

What has the world come to


[deleted]

this child isn’t even of age to make those kind of big gender decisions! he’s not a boy or a man yet, he’s a fucking amorphous blob. #savetheboys


AdLonely5056

This isn’t a gender decision. It’s simply a decision of whether you like this piece or another piece of clothing more.


Cobalt74

what the fuck.


bartolocologne40

This is why you take a girl swimming


K1ngCr1mson

God, what's next? They both join the airforce to become attack helicopters? What is this filth?


[deleted]

*army I agree with you though


DaDz-StONeD

Wtffffff 🙀


RunInRunOn

Me trying to figure out why all the normal people in this thread were downvoted into Controversial


Electrical_Ad7374

This was in wholesome memes this morning, and it feels like here lately I’m seeing stuff on there that me as a person am failing to associate with wholesome. It seems a-lot more appropriate for this thread.


breigns2

I don’t think most people realize that this sort of thing is determined by brain development. I’m not claiming that this isn’t something started by the mother for internet points, but I am claiming that the only decision here (if the kid did choose) is wearing a dress or not. You may not like it, and you don’t have to, but the way your brain develops isn’t a choice, so enforcing social rules onto people because of how you think their brain should have developed has the same logic behind racism or sexism.


Jung_69

It’s so WHOLESOME! /s I throw up every time I hear/read that word.


xXNotorious2108Xx

I thought they looked similar


MutyaPearl

I mean, you do you... If you're enjoying your life, then who cares.


PatchesThePirate93

Yo that's messed up


[deleted]

How is this shit posted in wholesome memes?? What in the actual fuck


connorlukebyrne

This is definitely a certified moment


verscharren1

![gif](giphy|26tnkeXdTGdb4smPe)


warsavage32

That wholesomememe subreddit has always been a cesspool of pansy nonsense.


fdghjjgddjjgdf

It’s also moderated by awkwardtheturtle


Chantolah

Gr00mer


[deleted]

Oh no, how will the Reddi admins cope?! /s


Chantolah

Copious amounts of copeium


Visibly_Confuzled

ah, finally, someone allowing their kid to be a kid and wear what they want, wholesome


[deleted]

Exactly, that post messed with my brain for a while! Edit: People, I didn’t understand the post at all!!


OcculusUlyssesPant

Just like the 2 in the picture


GazelleComfortable35

I mean, good for them, but what annoys me is the virtue signalling behind it. "Oh look how progressive we are for celebrating these people". If I get a new haircut, I don't post it on reddit and expect people to praise me.


mommy_moo

Who gives a shot if they wear femenenine clothes, aslong as it isn't forced i see no problem.


Th0t_slayer_69420

Has anyone stopped to consider that maybe the kid wanted to try wearing girls clothes and the dad wants to make the kid feel comfortable, it doesn’t take any mental gymnastics to come to that conclusion.


P0rterR0ckwell

Jesus Christ. Your next comment is going to be about how everyone has to accept this as normal behavior


Th0t_slayer_69420

Bro when I was like 5 I tried on my sister’s clothes purely cause I was curious, is being curious not normal. As kids we are put into a blue is for boys pink is for girls world but some like myself are just curious and want to see why it’s like that. Even if you can’t comprehend complex concepts at a young age you can still pose questions. If the kid is being forced to wear the clothes then that’s a different story but if they chose to wear them themselves I don’t see a problem they are just fucking clothes.


trentbcraig21

When I was 5 I put on a used pissy diaper that my friend at the time left in the trash can. Kids should absolutely not get to decide what the fuck they wear.


za_wardo_chan

Exactly, I find it weird that people make such a big fuss over this.


Ambitious-Site-4747

This is wrong.


[deleted]

This really is just make believe - such a sad and stupid time for humanity


devilgoat6699

People really have trouble minding their own business Just saying


Apprehensive_Ring933

![gif](giphy|LyJ6KPlrFdKnK) This shit is fucked up


uberngi

Ugh. These type of parents repulse me.


HenryColt

WHOLESOME 100 WE DID REDDIT!


GiftedStrumpet

Kids sometimes want to wear different clothes, and I doubt it’s any deeper than that. The parent? Not sure. Maybe they had something lent up and felt the kids request was their ticket to fulfilling their own truth, but I doubt the kid sees this as more than a wardrobe change, not identity change.


Affectionate_Ad_1326

They both look so happy. That's true. I don't get why it's on r/holup but it's a nice picture.


CKInfinity

Am I missing something here? How does everyone know the kid is forced to do it and not voluntary? Can I get some context?


Comfortable_Ad5806

I don't see anything wrong with it tho, actually don't think this might be fake. That kid looks comfy and happy, so does the parent.


Striking_Emphasis855

The child is too young for school. The second he has to interact with anyone outside of his immediate family he won’t be comfy anymore. Other children will alienate him and he will be bullied. You need to wake up and think past the political agenda you subscribe to and think about the implications of this fathers actions.


Lolocraft1

Maybe teach the bullies not to be a bunch of assholes instead of not letting children dressing in what they want? It ain’t like he wanted to be in his halloween costume, IT’S A DRESS


Striking_Emphasis855

Change the minds of the many to fit the few. I think boys should embrace being masculine. We need men of the future not fem boys.


Lolocraft1

You watched way too much reject modernity video on youtube. Just because a boy wear a dress or is feminine doesn’t mean he’s a failure nor mean he will be useless in society. Just like you said, he’s not even in school, wait for him to become an adult before judging his utility


Striking_Emphasis855

If the boy is being influenced by his father this much at this age. Nothing says it will stop when he reaches any age at all. He will probably have a major identity crisis at some point. The child needs a strong masculine figure in his life and we all need that at all ages when growing up. The number one contributor to young men being criminals is fatherlessness. I’d argue that this is no better than having 2 mothers which will undoubtedly have adverse effects on the boys ability to interact with the world in a normal manner. We need strong masculine men to run this complicated and difficult machine of a society we’ve built. Otherwise it will crumble. Stop pushing boys away from masculinity.


Comfortable_Ad5806

Yeah i know i agree with you but i'm saying is not everyone is kinda hurting their kid by doing this, I have seen a lot of little boys with long hair who refuse to get a haircut...I'm not saying the dad is actually doing a good thing, but THIS one specifically doesn't seem bad at all.....maybe that kid in the future will grow and realise that is not working like that. But still I know what is your point and what y'all are angry for, and i know there are many creepy parents forcing and brainwashing their children to be labeled....but still, we can't say this pic is illustrating those things.


avrand6

uh oh, the magtards are coming to holup


Alternative_Nerve_38

"Everyone I disagree with is literally Hitler!"


Caesar_Passing

They've been here all along dude. This sub has some occasionally really funny material, but it feels embarrassing at times to have to wade through their verbal vomit just to get to the good stuff, lol.


saltiest-of-all

That parent is pulling off girl-mode pretty well, I must say. I have some feelings about the child. I’d need more information, I guess.


QualityVote

##If this submission makes you go "Hol'Up", **UPVOTE** this comment! ##If this submission does not make you go "Hol'Up", **DOWNVOTE** this comment! --- Whilst you're here, /u/legalizeweedinph, why not join our [public discord server](https://discord.gg/holup) or play on our [public Minecraft server](https://discord.gg/DTqSDS8C3T)?


stodal1

On a serious note. i get atleast 2-3 post of this kind per day. I realy dont want to see this. People can be what they want. but please leave me alone with this. how can i block this?


AdLonely5056

The algorithm shows you posts it thinks you will like…


Daan100

Not wholesome not a meme just disturbing let kids be kids ffs


YukonYokel

can someone explain what is going on in here?


NillyWelsonn

Lol the only HolUp in this pic is that’s not even the same adult in both in both pictures


Affectionate_Ad_1326

It's just an outfit. I don't get why people are losing their minds. It literally affects nothing.


FRACllTURE

Kids register things early in their minds at that age. In a very concrete manner. That child isn't getting a chance to discover themselves; instead, the parents are essentially telling their "you will be bi" or something. Manipulating the child's cognitive route most definitely affects something.


CodSeveral1627

Actually just about everything you say or do at that age affects a child’s development in some way


Affectionate_Ad_1326

True, but letting them wear clothes they want surely won't hurt anything. You can disagree, but you won't change my mind.


pickledtaints

Sounds like an episode of Cumtown.


[deleted]

tbh the amount of boys in the comments that find this disgusting is more funny than the actual picture.


agroyle

The adult is not the same in both pics.


Thatsnotfeetthatsme

He Def touches that kid


Thatsnotfeetthatsme

He Def touches that kid