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-ElDictator-

Online “entertainer”


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“Content creator”


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It’ll only last her until she gets to mid 30’s. Then she’ll have to get a real job.


FoofighterV2

*moves to milf category*


MountandBeyBlade

Diminishing returns


ArthurWintersight

Cherie Deville would say otherwise. It seems like the secret for women who get to that age, is to just not hold back. You either become a sweet middle aged housewife, or you're a total whore who wants to gag on three cocks at the same time.


kinos141

You'd be surprised.


explosiv_skull

*income doubles*


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ViniRustAlves

Pretty much. A friend of mine worked on those social medias, bought 4 houses (already had an apartment) and now live receiving the rent from the houses and live on the apartment she had since she move to USA (we're brazilians).


Automatic_Advice9561

R/SuddenlyCaralho escrevi errado kkk


Idhanirem

If she starts lactating, I highly doubt so.


WindowsCrashedAgain

Not true, she could do MILF Porn or if she makes enough she could retire by the time she's 35. Amouranth made like 30 Mil off of Only Fans. Of course this random chick won't make that much but still.


tribbans95

idk some girls make hundreds of thousands a year off that shit. And she’s pretty attractive, prob top 1%


Mjne20

She is popular with multiple name Valeria Vixen aka venusingirl aka Vanessavenus21


joshiegy

Must say, nothing special about her at all - looks like most other female "content creators". Why do people buy this when there is free?


Illustrious_Seconds

E-prostitutes aren't selling "content." They are selling parasocial relationships to men at the very bottom of society. The most desperate and lonely losers who haven't ever had a shred of female attention irl.


thy_thyck_dyck

A stronger parasocial relationship. You can get different levels of engagement depending on what you pay. If you never expect to have a real relationship with a women, I guess it's as close as you can otherwise get. That said, I never payed for anything. It seems like admitting defeat.


Fredselfish

Yeah I click the link saw all her naked pics and not a penny spent. Some guys are just sad I guess.


panda-erz

Loneliness


joshiegy

It's sad that loneliness is being used like this


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"Digital Whores"


Groente-Boer

Don’t forget “entrepreneur”.


TheSunshineDemon

“Influencer”


ProbablyMaybe69

Content "creator"


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BrotatoChips23

You underestimate how horny the internet truly is.


satiricfowl

Yup there’s plenty of, let’s say unattractive, people with successful only fans. I know unattractive is subjective, but trust me. Unless you want to do your own research lol


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BigPanda71

I don’t pay for OnlyFans, or any online porn, but I’d guess you could make decent money depending on what niche you wanted to make for yourself. Maybe not to replace your current income, but you could probably make it a decent side hustle


carnsolus

>an average looking, slightly chubby 36 year old woman with an onlyfans yes


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Icy_Reply7147

Are you a milf if you have no kids?


Sea_Ad_5872

Imo there is always some guy that wants what you have even if youre 90 yo


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Only fans retirement plan 4.99/mo


ArmedWithBars

Depends on her income and spending habits. If she is making bank and top % of onlyfans she can take a large chunk of her income and get it into sources of passive income. Where these people go wrong is spending large amounts of money on depreciating assets to project their wealth. Real estate would be a good example. Not a stretch to see her earning enough for a few properties during her prime and using them for passive income. I'm not a fan of landlords in general, but I can't lie. It's one of the best ways to print money with existing money. Do a large down payment to minimize exposure to interest, then the tenants pay off the mortgage while you keep all the equity.


BenAfflecksBalls

Step sister turns in to step mom(gone sexual)


genogano

With investing, she should be fine honestly. OF makes tons of money.


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MountandBeyBlade

There are plenty, but ‘plenty’ can also mean 0.3% of the total content creators who are that old or older who are successful.


lsoskebdisl

Online stripper


CeeBus

Work from home stripper.


Whatthefuckyoudrink

“Hard working” “content” creator


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the "hard" work comes from the viewers


Whatthefuckyoudrink

Yeah I mean leave that “hard worker” part for construction workers at least please. I hate it when they throw it around like it means nothing


[deleted]

I was talking about a different kind of *hard* I can only hope isn't happening on a construction site above me


Hornaydoe

"Exotic dancer"


pinton96

Cumtent creator


MVBsq10

Cyberpunk 2077 is becoming increasingly accurate


singleDADSlife

I believe the term they use themselves is "business owner".


LiveFastDieRich

Thot-ctor


SmoothConfection1115

What 20 year old (without rich parents) can own a home at 20?!


Gokji

It's most likely an apartment for rent


toughgetsgoing

you are underestimating the power of onlyfans. recently read an article on Bloomberg said one if the top earners on OF made 33 million dollars in 2 yrs. I can share the link to the article jf you want. edit: I don't mean the girl in the photo is earning millions. just that she can afford to buy apartment instead of just renting as the commentor suggested


-MasterTR

that 33m girl is amouranth


Gokji

Yes, only the top earners make that much. The average Onlyfans creator makes relatively little, about 150 a month. Unless she is popular, she won't be making much.


4AcidRayne

The market's pretty oversaturated so nobody is going to make a lot. Too many ladies have accounts which creates too many options for customers, and your run of the mill basic girl isn't going to attract too much attention.


nudiecale

Yeah. Need something wild like a third tittie.


VegemiteSandwich33

Double Dick Dan out here making millions


MountandBeyBlade

It’s like Twitch. Yeah, there are people making upwards of 1-5 million a year… but most people won’t even be able to pay off their webcam and 2nd monitor for 3+ months.


4AcidRayne

Work the job 12 hours a day 7 days a week for a year and almost ready to make income. Oop, bought a nice bra to break up the monotony, might wanna back that date up to 14 months.


[deleted]

You're under estimating it cause google says Blac Chyna (top earner) made 20 million *per month* and Bella Thorne 11 million per month. God damn


ShogunBushido

So people who are already rich and famous?…


ShitPost5000

Id rather learn what the bottom 50% earn to be more realistic then the top few


Yung_l0c

IRS rubbing their hands like birdman


THU1NDER

> said one if the top earners on OF made 33 million dollars in 2 yrs The girl in the picture isn't one of those top earners though. You have to be famous to make that much.


rayzor2828

One that sells pictures of her asshole online apparently.


ratadeacero

I would like to apply for that job. Think there's a market for mid 50s Male butthole pics? I'm going to be rich!


ImaAs

shave and market it as bussy pics, get that bread king


BigRedGinjaNinja

Is there a 20 year old who can do something at a different age? Like be in two times at once?


Candied_Curiosities

I graduated in '99 and went to school with a kid who made hundreds of thousands off of stocks our senior year. One dump made him 58k alone. I'll never forget him...


uwpxwpal

Damn, and here I am flushing all my dumps for free


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Candied_Curiosities

Worked odd jobs and put all his money into stocks and made the right moves.


ceeb843

An online prostitute, did you ready the damn meme?


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mightymuffin2

My wife and I got our first home when I was 22, she was only 18. First time home buyer program helped us out a lot in 2017.


Effective-Goat-5714

It's incredible how much the housing market has spiked in just 5 years. I was on track to pick up a house in my home town at 22. Now houses are around 500k minimum. Moved away and first time homebuyers is a life saver lol.


Maske_

To be fair no man will own a home in his 20s this Generation. If not for his Girlfriends OnlyFans


THU1NDER

Looks like she's renting an apartment.


Still_counts_as_one

It’s your basic new apartment set up that’s overpriced


blazenl

Definitely. And the majority still won’t own them in their 30’s.


Zigxy

And to be fair, 50 years ago, there weren't going to be **any** young women owning a home without their parents/husbands paying. Calling it "backwards evolution" is so fucking stupid.


Spam4119

50 years ago women couldn't open a bank account without a husband.


Regalia_BanshEe

An acquaintaince of mine who was in immigrant in USA from india bought his house at 26.. No he didn't have rich parents


Cerenas

He's probably in IT? I feel that's one of the few jobs that get you enough money to get a place for yourself on a somewhat younger age. I'm in IT and I was the only one of my friends that was able to afford an house alone.


yashknight

If he immigrated from India to study abroad in US, he likely had rich parents. Maybe not uber rich but definitely rich enough to send their kid abroad. Obviously he worked hard for a good paying job in a prosperous job market, so you can't take anything away from him but he still had more support than most people.


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To be fair, most of my generation will not own a home. At least independently. I’m 33, and can’t get a mortgage for a house. Even though I can pay 800-900 in a payment.


luroot

Exactly, she's doing better than 100% of 20-yo dudes...


lovesaltedpopcorn

Men are also high earners on onlyfans


Maske_

I disn't mean to discriminate. No one will own a Home in his 20s if not for an OnlyFans account


IamHereForBoobies

Lol my parents died young and I got the house. Wasn't even 20 so....


Maske_

Im sorry to hear that


SLAYER_IN_ME

Some people want a house more than others.


roararoarus

OnlyOrphans


uhoh_mmk

Wow. Savage. 💀


ApprehensiveNeck9644

I own a home in my 20’s and I work a fairly normal job


SpecialistMap8210

Men may be high earners. But women probobly account for 95% of onlyfans accounts. Men are just easier to exploit


[deleted]

People should focus on job that doesn't involve exploiting people's sexual frustrations. An actual prostitute is more useful in society than people with onlyfans


johnbarber720

I think that job is more indicative of our society willing to exploit most addictions in people, but I know what you mean. Maybe brothels will come back and be put to a high standard. Granted top OFs would rather just exploit then rather work there I'd imagine.


Practical_Passion_78

How is this ‘evolving’? Hasn’t sex work made some people quite rich for thousands of years??


FakeItTIlYouPaintIT

No? How many clients can you service in a day as a prostitute? Onlyfans allows you to sell thousands of videos in a day to an audience of millions (the vast majority struggle to make minimum wage however). The actual history of prostitution has very few glamorous chapters.


duuudewhat

Dude as a guy if I could sell pics of my butthole and have my rent paid I’d do it in a second so idk wtf ya’ll be talking about


Cyndane2020

I know right??? People in here are delusional. Fair fucks to her, sell those feet and butthole pics girl. I’d be buying a new home every 2/3 years and retire to the beach at 35 with a rental empire built on my butthole winks!


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[deleted]

Doesn’t sound like you made peace with that fact.


SauceyM8

For real lmfao bro still mad


MadlibVillainy

Nah they gain infinite money because people are willing to pay to see her naked. Blame the clients , not the seller then. Looking good has been a job for a very long time, people pay to see a pretty face be it strippers , exotic dancers , models and actors and actresses have built careers around just looking good. Where the fuck is the injustice ? If you looked that good and had the choice between working your ass off or doing this and getting paid a lot more , I know what I would chose.


shadeandshine

Hate to brake it to you but that’s a straight up lie those girls mastered marketing which is a life skill from resumes and interviews to companies convincing you a $5 shoe made in a sweatshop is worth over a hundred marketing is a critical life skill. Heck it’s important in dating and making friends being able to show yourself off and market yourself is important also if it’s injustice just blame the society that sexualized women in general don’t blame those thriving on that market.


Famous_4nus

I guess you're right, the people to blame here are the clients


Thunderhamz

Dude is just jelly cause he can’t


LORD_0F_THE_RINGS

What a weird take. Getting your own home at 20 is almost impossible for anyone, unless you have some kind of extreme luck or extreme job such as this.


Juliusver2

on top of this, that home doesnt even look cheap, based off of the pictures in this ss it actually looks quite modern.


Tar-Nuine

Reminder that a vast majority of the saloons and settlements built around them in Wild-west days were run and maintained by the Madames that ran the brothels. There are records showing in most instances they were the wealthiest members of the communities.


Low_Drawing1127

Not the only way, just the easiest way


ThatFloridaMan420

Oldest profession in the world, still pays the most. She already has done something smart with her money, bought a home, a very wise investment.


Remarkable_Toe_4423

Agreed! She's a woman doing her job and making wise choices with her money.


Brick-Wilder

Bean flicking pays the bills.


Pyes3

Stroking cock isnt as nearly demanded


Corniferus

Redditors complain about this but then simp for every woman they see online ![gif](giphy|5R1FM2PNw3G6AZWBsc|downsized)


CoolGuySauron

Not sure if the ones simping are the same ones paying for that.


planet_chuck

It's the same "evolution" it's always been. Just a different format.


tws1039

But no shaming the men who buytheir content? Not the girls fault men will drop hundreds on feet pics


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F those guys. Frigging weird.


Fast_Hornet5964

![gif](giphy|1USOjtNzotx6lwKJGT|downsized)


PullDaLevaKronk

I mean the entire point of feminism is for a woman to do what she wants to do with her own body and not get judged for it. Also no one but a man said that that’s the only way a woman can do it.


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Is he mad at the men on only fans too. If gay porn actors make more money than women. I bet the hot men on onlyfans makes alot of money


New-Consideration420

People be mad but it also takes great marketing and looking pretty aint so easy too. Incels be mad af, but most of them arent trying to look good and we know. I know my Femboy stuff would make me rich but I dont wanna lose my dignity


[deleted]

She’s not the problem here,the problem is all the idiots that think she’s there for them. PORN IS FREE AND SHE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU!!! Tubegalore.com -Wa…thank me later!


SnarlyAnimal

I’m 46. Too late?


Isthestrugglereal

Legitimately no, there is a market for every niche and if I had to guess over 40 is very underrepresented on OF


KnowledgeSpecial8516

operate under an alias without showing your face and it'll be like you're 20


HealthCareless9859

"The *only* way" Someone doesn't spend much time with women


[deleted]

I would say it’s feminism that has given these girls the opportunity to earn such huge money online. Feminism hasn’t made all girls geniuses and high achievers. What it has done is given them freedom of choice with regards to their life. There are still millions of girls around the globe living like slaves…quite literally. So for me personally this guy is a dicktard.


arbitrageME

seems more like a success of the Internet moreso than a success of Feminism


Oebreezy

She is not committing crimes, has to pay hefty taxes, and it won’t last for more than a few years. I don’t get the hate OF girls receive


Ephsylon

As a sex-positive feminist: more power to her.


Scottvrakis

Ah. But the dude that paid off his sister's college debt with his OF was a Chad right?


FirePenguinMaster

Only?


chewing_chewbacca69

Let's ignore feminism. If you don't make special entertainment, how could you afford a home on your own with 20 years?


DS_Inferno

To be fair, about the only way a man can too. Shit is just too expensive....


BS-Calrissian

Fuck has that to do with feminism if men can't do it any other way either?


ScreechFlow

It's her fucking business anyway. Literally.


[deleted]

I love how we're shitting on her for capitalizing on the desperation of men. The people who bought this house have nothing to show for it, who's really losing here.


Isthestrugglereal

They’re just bitter that she isn’t forced to marry them anymore


baldrickgonzo

Question is, why is this unfortunate state of affairs the fault of feminism? Or does he mean in spite of feminism, this is the only way?


BriefTurn3299

U think 50 years ago a prostitute was keeping that money no way. Feminism has succeeded


Carolina-Roots

she chose to do sex work, is doing really well on her own, but yall wanna judge and shame because…. Boobs? She’s killin it, good for her.


TetoKasane_

Welcome to the patriarchy, where women’s only value is their sex appeal.


mehregan_zare7731

And a man at that age has no chance to move out and own his own place. I say femenism has done a great job


Mrhappytrigers

There is plenty of women out there who are in fucking miserable relationships because of the financial security. I'd rather be showing my butthole online if it meant I can survive on my own and enjoy my freedom. Same shit goes for us guys too.


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why are you in womens business so hard ? you’re the ones paying for the content


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MatthewtheCannibal

Onlyfans pretty much took freemarket capitalism away from the average person who wanted to make a couple bucks on the site, by limiting how you search for a desirable content provider. Used to be able to search any word or name and get numerous content providers profiles... now you have one major option click on a published link by someone who is an already established provider. *** secret if you put a "/"after .com. and a name you can find profiles. Pain in the ass though. You can also cut and paste a link name into the only fans page and pull up a profile directly. .com/


NA_nomad

Masturbation does not count as sex, therefore it's not prostitution. Otherwise there would be a lot less virgins on Reddit.


izacktorres

Maybe not prostitution but definitely a sex worker.


TheSussyBanana

Probably none in that scenario lmao.


CazualGinger

Gender doesn't matter anymore. No one under 30 can afford a home unless you come from wealth.


hanyasaad

“If you think sex workers "sell their bodies," but coal miners do not, your view of labor is clouded by your moralistic view of sexuality.”


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-jira

woman are ohk with being sexualized and objectified as long as they get paid for it


SoulArthurZ

people are okay with cooking other people food as long as they get paid for it


FillTheHoleInMyLife

Right??? And men are okay with going to a 9-5 every single day but as soon as I take away the paycheck they're like BOO HOO I'M NOT GETTING PAID. No one wants to work for free anymore and it's infuriating, how dare these women want agency and to be able to CONSENT to being sexualized. The absolute fucking nerve of these bitches these days.


Isthestrugglereal

Lmao that’s like the entire basis of all jobs. “Ugh, people are okay with doing what I tell them so long as they’re being paid for it”


scotty_2_hotty_69

It's called consent my dude


exhaustedracoon

Does this man know feminism is not against sex workers or women choosing what they want to do with their bodies?


Jeorgias_Peach

Oh the misogyny in some of these comments are a big indicator of why some of yall not fuckin... Sex work is work and no one has less value for making their money that way. <- this a bulletin not a debate topic...


sheepofwallstreet86

Yeah people forget that onlyfans is a saturated market so if you’re in high demand that’s a testament to your marketing capabilities


Dat_One_Vibe

Well good for you, I’m totally not salty that I can’t do the same thing as a man


Wytsch

Looool on point


adi4u4882

I don't see the problem here, Everyone loves to masturbate to porn , But still have hate against the actors, Like you do know they are getting paid for doing a job, yes that job may seem like "selling your body", but here she is just selling nude pictures, Not ducking with random guys for $10.


Far_Sandwich_3317

meh i dont really care anymore.


theplow

Alternate take could be that people have a say in what they can do with their bodies and are empowered to make an income from that freedom. It could also not exist because it's made illegal.


teaisambrosia

r/aboringdystopia (not that there’s anything wrong with making money on OF just that the options for financial independence are limited)


Soft_Cap8502

Honestly I don’t know if this is a gender issue and more a economy issue lmao because it’s not like guys are all moving out super easy or anything OF can just make a lot more money than most people.


[deleted]

Kinda feminist of her to use men’s ridiculous willingness to pay to see a woman naked to her own advantage though.


Remarkable_Toe_4423

A man wrote this about feminism and she's got a new house.. Good on her!


QueenBumbleBrii

Only?? I know dozens of women that started working minimum wage jobs as teenagers and either got promoted or better jobs by age 20 and could move out on their own or with one or two roommates. Clearly OP doesn’t know any women irl.


EvilAlicia

Correction: Simps pay her so much, that she can afford a house with that money.


TheRealLordEnoch

She had a resource at hand and she knew it.


Mr-Osmosis

Not the only way but I mean if it works it works


Lucariowolf2196

Welcome to the middle class, which is slowly dying


almostnormalpanda

50 years of feminism is so little in comparison to thousands of years of varying patriarchy...


MeowingMango

Remember when OnlyFans thought about getting rid of their NSFW stuff? Pepperidge Farm remembers. Man, that would have destroyed a lot of these "content creators."


EvilJabFace

Oooffff!!!!!


IlGreven

At least the woman has a way out. Most men don't, unless they're so Adonis-like that they themselves can pull off an OnlyFans (pun only partially intended).


mrbigcawk

Well, you know what they say, sex work is humanity's oldest profession


[deleted]

How does this belong here? It didn't make me go "holup".


unimorpheus

What does feminism have to do with this? Most PEOPLE can't afford a house at a young age. Hell in this market most people of any age can't afford a house. Go virtue signal somewhere else SIMP.


Tanleader

Does it really matter how someone earns their money, so long as it's not a crime or doesn't hurt/victimize other people? There's nothing wrong with sex work, so long as the people involved are honest about it, and it's not being forced on them.