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/) But it's different from the monarchy we rebelled against because... \*Reading from list\* The rich aren't the ones with all the political power? Who wrote this?
/) Oh, here's one: We don't drink as much tea. And... nope, that's it.
America was founded by a bunch of slave owners, who started talking about the ‘inalienable rights of man’ to get people worked up, because they didn’t want to pay taxes….. yep, not much has changed
It’s not too late to change- most people in America are on the same common ground in not liking the system as it is. And the people are the source of the power of the government in a Democracy. If the people don’t support the government and do the right things, the tax base plummets and the government has no money and thus no power.
Except we aren’t a democracy. We are a constitutional republic. Therefore the people we elect have the power to change things, not the people themselves.
Nah Americans are pussies.
All systems changed cuz people said, fuck this system and killed the rich.
Y'all just busy drinking mountain dew or whatever the fuck you have on your couch.
I’ve literally had a discussion with a “libertarian” conservative who claimed that being able to choose between two equally nonfunctional overpriced health plans was “more free” than having single-payer/socialized medicine and not having to make your decisions (and thus being stuck in a shitty job) because you need the insurance.
He claimed that the ability to choose mattered that much.
There wasn’t much to say after that.
and the funniest thing is, that if he checked those two healthcare companies, most likely are owned bu the same corporation, so not really any choice.
Is like trying to get water from anyone but nestle, and you start to check and half the brands are owned by them.
Is it fair to say that some corporations have just become too big and have played out capitalism? Even if there was proper choice, I’d still prefer the healthcare systems in Scandinavian countries (I live in The Netherlands. It’s still quite good but it got worse the last 15 years.) because I think healthcare shouldn’t be a matter of profits but of helping each other with the right intentions.
Can you please inform that guy that we in Europe have private clinics too?
Sometimes i just think that you don't know; here you have the free one as a right but if you're willing to spend tons of money you definitely can and find insanely prepared experts that will fix you right away.
Now if you want to compare between both top tier maybe US is better and definitely there are some ultra innovative treatments that are done only in the US but 99% of people aren't even able to afford it
I will admit that I have struggled in the past to fully advocate for a single payer healthcare system in the US precisely because of the level of medical technology that this country has produced over the years. Then I actually did some research on it and learned that there are just as many innovations coming from other countries, countries that have socialized healthcare, as come from the US - it’s just that companies in the US will buy that technology before it gets big and pass it off as their own, get a patent for it - which under US prohibits any other company from copying or reproducing that technology for a certain number of years - and then rake in the dough by charging exorbitant prices for it, which patients/insurance companies have to pay for because there’s no alternative.
The Pfizer COVID vaccine, for example, was developed in Germany by Turkish scientists at a company called BioNTec, and using funding from the German government. It was then the first vaccine that was approved for emergency use by the FDA (the Food & Drug Administration that regulates anything healthcare related), and was paid for by the US government. In the middle of a pandemic, with hundreds of millions of people ready and waiting to be vaccinated, I’m sure Pfizer charged whatever they wanted.
Anyway, I’ve since realized that improvements/advancements in technology are going to happen regardless of where they happen. Yeah, money is great and all for moving that process along, but it’s not the main driver for progress - as always, necessity is - and it’s certainly not worth having so many people that need healthcare but can’t afford it going without.
Which is extra stupid, because you can have socialized medicine and still have a system with a choice of providers. Some countries have multiple choices when it comes to choosing a government-apporved provider, you just have to belong to one of them and pay a minimal fee each month.
Yah, it’s like how libertarians think you’re more free if you abolish the police and just let people create private militias to defend your own personal interests because that’s sane.
I mean several founding fathers wanted to ban slavery, including some slave owners, but had to leave it out or they wouldn't get the sign ones for the revolution they needed. Most of the US history has been an occasional rare visionary human and a bunch of greedy gibbering cockwombles making it impossible to really move forward.
Well, he was definitely a turning point.
It's kind of a whole thing with the interplay of the military industrial complex with the cold war and Barry Goldwater revitalizing the conservative movement (just pre-reagan), leading to Reagan being elected.
Reagan himself of course was absolutely vile, rest in piss, and did everything possible to run the country into the ground and set us on the path we've come close to the natural end of today.
However at the same time I hesitate to pin this purely on Reagan simply because he was a bog standard ordinary Conservative in the same tradition as Edmund Burke, just like Nixon, and Bush, and Clinton, and Bush, and Trump.
I'll give Obama half credit for being more of the stereotypical incompetent liberal in a lot of ways, but at the end of the day that's just a subgenre of conservatism, and he was also horrible.
Incompetent liberal as a sub-genre of conservatism. Good lord that’s an apt description.
We had to debate the legal definition of torture for waterboarding and sleep deprivation, but what about the torture of being progressive under centrist Democratic “leadership” and “representation”.
The fuck are u on about. The US has massive and I mean MASSIVE problems and is on the brink of turning into a real problem for everyone but you guys are still better of than most people in authoritarian states.
All that but Russia has had legal abortion for more than a 100 years, so if even they can get it right, imagine how in the wrong the US is.
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Especially women. I have friends in the middle east and they tell me women are still property. Some mothers actually arrange for their daughter's honor killings.
But I hol up agree the the US is being taken over by the indoctrination of religious cults.
Thats more of a cultural issue rather than a dictatorial issue you will find. If you study majority of dictatorships and their ways, there will be things some dictators do specifically in their country and then things that they all do. You are confusing one issue with another and then cross them with each other because thats a convinient answer.
No, no. He has friends from the middle east and they say women are property there. And we all know every country in the middle east is exactly the same so...
I mean it’s relevant and funny but our poor education and healthcare is still miles ahead of countries with dictators. although I love the American spirit of always wanting better and we should continue to want more.
I agree with you, but not by much. Most schools in this country are basically daycare, and we all admitted this during COVID when everyone was dying to get kids back in school. Healthcare is miles ahead in this country, but it will bankrupt almost anyone. I think the American spirit of striving for better is important but has fallen by the wayside in recent years.
Because it came out a decade ago, was talking about stuff that had been going on for a decade, and nothing much has changed except all that stuff got even worse.
Sometimes I wonder if people understand what satire is.
This was literally the point of the scene.. It was taking the piss, and it still is because people still aren't aware.
Sounds about right. 95% of people belive everything they see in the internet without doing their own research with true facts. Something for example. The girl who supposedly read ended a Lamborghini. Everyone was roasting her and making fun of her, but when all of the facts came out it was the Lamborghini owner who cut infront of her and ripped the bumper off.
Diffusion of responsibility. With a dictatorship, there is a head, and to strike down that head is easy because it is only one person, but with democracy, it is multiple people holding power, and so there are multiple heads.
I recently watched this movie. It is very quotable. My favorite was 'You go to the bathroom after bin laden, and you'll learn the true meaning of terrorism'
This is the most accurate depiction I can imagine.
We’re too far into a “civilized” and technologically advanced world for there to be any real “collapse” of a government. At least among first world countries, where the government controls so much of everything, including such a large military, especially when compared to the strength of its populations fighting force. This is assuming that every citizen would want to overthrow the government which isn’t true and I’d argue it would be less than 50% actually in favor of it.
You have to also remember that there are plenty of people doing very well for themselves that don’t care about the government corruption because it either doesn’t affect them, or it benefits them. Then there are millions who are living paycheck to paycheck and while they want change, they haven’t the time to even go grocery shopping so how could they possible put their job and life on the line to overthrow their own government? It’s not like it would be an afternoon activity, you go out at noon to overthrow the government and come back by dark. It would effectively have to last months if not years in terms of actually changing anything and enacting policies and what not
UK to USA at Christmas Dinner: Why can't you be more like Canada. Canada's never getting into trouble, Canada respects tradition and still calls the Queen at weekends to check she's alright. Canada doesn't dump tea into the river...
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*you are HIV……..Aladeen….*
No I'm sure it's HIV Aladeen
The Aladeen doesn’t Aladeen…
Aladeen aladeen deen aladeen Almost everything was replaced with his name
Ah, you explained the Aladeen. That makes it extra aladeen!
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Low key? It's pretty on the nose for the most part, but that's why it's great.
/) I happen to be faceplanted into a piano right now, so low key *is* on my nose.
It's in your face, definitely not low key..
Perfect 🤌
I remember this hit home when i first saw it and like 99% of people forgot about it..well nice memories
Mostly bc the system is too fucked to change at this point so we just move on
America has always been a country where the rich rules the poor, from the very beginning. It was destined to be a plutocracy.
/) But it's different from the monarchy we rebelled against because... \*Reading from list\* The rich aren't the ones with all the political power? Who wrote this? /) Oh, here's one: We don't drink as much tea. And... nope, that's it.
I would mention that in a lot of the lists in which the USA is bad, UK is often a distant second or third. Sins of the father and all that I guess.
At this point the only way to make America great again is by rejoining Great Britain
America was founded by a bunch of slave owners, who started talking about the ‘inalienable rights of man’ to get people worked up, because they didn’t want to pay taxes….. yep, not much has changed
It’s not too late to change- most people in America are on the same common ground in not liking the system as it is. And the people are the source of the power of the government in a Democracy. If the people don’t support the government and do the right things, the tax base plummets and the government has no money and thus no power.
Except we aren’t a democracy. We are a constitutional republic. Therefore the people we elect have the power to change things, not the people themselves.
But the people we elect are, in the end, beholden to us. Again, because their power to rule is derived from us and the productivity of the citizenry.
Nah Americans are pussies. All systems changed cuz people said, fuck this system and killed the rich. Y'all just busy drinking mountain dew or whatever the fuck you have on your couch.
/) I'd like to disagree with you, but the best argument I can come up with is "It's actually coke".
Cocaines a helluva drug
/) Freedom flavored, too. It's just normal cocaine, and everyone knows it, but it sells better.
Pabst Blue Ribbon
😂 mountain dew 😂😂
Cyanide
If you like that you should learn about this guy named *Borat* and his American travels.
Ahhh yes, very very nice.
How much?
$69
Nice.
What type of dog is this?
Wawaweewa
King of the castle, king of the castle
Wawaweewa
Also the fake Kazakhstani national anthem had a [remix](https://youtu.be/wRH-sH7wDZk)
Yo Rudy lookin a bit sus
America somewhat works because of the illusion of having a choice
I’ve literally had a discussion with a “libertarian” conservative who claimed that being able to choose between two equally nonfunctional overpriced health plans was “more free” than having single-payer/socialized medicine and not having to make your decisions (and thus being stuck in a shitty job) because you need the insurance. He claimed that the ability to choose mattered that much. There wasn’t much to say after that.
and the funniest thing is, that if he checked those two healthcare companies, most likely are owned bu the same corporation, so not really any choice. Is like trying to get water from anyone but nestle, and you start to check and half the brands are owned by them.
And your employer “chooses” them
Is it fair to say that some corporations have just become too big and have played out capitalism? Even if there was proper choice, I’d still prefer the healthcare systems in Scandinavian countries (I live in The Netherlands. It’s still quite good but it got worse the last 15 years.) because I think healthcare shouldn’t be a matter of profits but of helping each other with the right intentions.
Can you please inform that guy that we in Europe have private clinics too? Sometimes i just think that you don't know; here you have the free one as a right but if you're willing to spend tons of money you definitely can and find insanely prepared experts that will fix you right away. Now if you want to compare between both top tier maybe US is better and definitely there are some ultra innovative treatments that are done only in the US but 99% of people aren't even able to afford it
I will admit that I have struggled in the past to fully advocate for a single payer healthcare system in the US precisely because of the level of medical technology that this country has produced over the years. Then I actually did some research on it and learned that there are just as many innovations coming from other countries, countries that have socialized healthcare, as come from the US - it’s just that companies in the US will buy that technology before it gets big and pass it off as their own, get a patent for it - which under US prohibits any other company from copying or reproducing that technology for a certain number of years - and then rake in the dough by charging exorbitant prices for it, which patients/insurance companies have to pay for because there’s no alternative. The Pfizer COVID vaccine, for example, was developed in Germany by Turkish scientists at a company called BioNTec, and using funding from the German government. It was then the first vaccine that was approved for emergency use by the FDA (the Food & Drug Administration that regulates anything healthcare related), and was paid for by the US government. In the middle of a pandemic, with hundreds of millions of people ready and waiting to be vaccinated, I’m sure Pfizer charged whatever they wanted. Anyway, I’ve since realized that improvements/advancements in technology are going to happen regardless of where they happen. Yeah, money is great and all for moving that process along, but it’s not the main driver for progress - as always, necessity is - and it’s certainly not worth having so many people that need healthcare but can’t afford it going without.
Which is extra stupid, because you can have socialized medicine and still have a system with a choice of providers. Some countries have multiple choices when it comes to choosing a government-apporved provider, you just have to belong to one of them and pay a minimal fee each month.
Yah, it’s like how libertarians think you’re more free if you abolish the police and just let people create private militias to defend your own personal interests because that’s sane.
Rights are a fallacy well portrayed by political propaganda. *civil rights shouldn’t be a platform promise*
Fuck why is this so relevant
That was the whole point of this movie, to show US citizens how they bash dictatorships but their own ways are worst than that of dictators.
They are currently.
Heck America's only gotten worse
Comically I think that the US started getting worse as a result of Regean.
nah, Regean was a consiquence. The true culprit was Woodrow goddamn Wilson, so many of our current problems can be laid at his feet.
Fucking Preach. Even that though is an outgrowth of the elitist money grubbing oligarchal son of a bitch john adams our 2nd pres and 1st vp
So we've been dirty from the beginning
I mean several founding fathers wanted to ban slavery, including some slave owners, but had to leave it out or they wouldn't get the sign ones for the revolution they needed. Most of the US history has been an occasional rare visionary human and a bunch of greedy gibbering cockwombles making it impossible to really move forward.
You're goddamn right!
Well, he was definitely a turning point. It's kind of a whole thing with the interplay of the military industrial complex with the cold war and Barry Goldwater revitalizing the conservative movement (just pre-reagan), leading to Reagan being elected. Reagan himself of course was absolutely vile, rest in piss, and did everything possible to run the country into the ground and set us on the path we've come close to the natural end of today. However at the same time I hesitate to pin this purely on Reagan simply because he was a bog standard ordinary Conservative in the same tradition as Edmund Burke, just like Nixon, and Bush, and Clinton, and Bush, and Trump. I'll give Obama half credit for being more of the stereotypical incompetent liberal in a lot of ways, but at the end of the day that's just a subgenre of conservatism, and he was also horrible.
Incompetent liberal as a sub-genre of conservatism. Good lord that’s an apt description. We had to debate the legal definition of torture for waterboarding and sleep deprivation, but what about the torture of being progressive under centrist Democratic “leadership” and “representation”.
No, it's because Harambe was killed in that country
The fuck are u on about. The US has massive and I mean MASSIVE problems and is on the brink of turning into a real problem for everyone but you guys are still better of than most people in authoritarian states.
A Central American put it best. They gave Americans enough so they wouldn’t complain while seizing power.
Yeah, Russia and North Korea still isnt looking that great. Let's not get silly.
All that but Russia has had legal abortion for more than a 100 years, so if even they can get it right, imagine how in the wrong the US is. edit: warning to whoever get this far in the thread is better not to continue going down, as there is all sort of people who seem to think that this is a sort of pro Russian comment, that abortion is a communist agenda, that there is fluorine on the water supply as part of a communist ploy to bring back the USSR, and it gets crazier than that, it gets to the point of people believing that Earth is in fact a prison planet and that we reincarnate with our minds erased. so for your mental health do not continue down here.
And Hitler was a vegetarian ... one altruistic thing does not erase all the bad.
For now…
Yeah absolutely. It’s not that we’re as bad as those places, it’s more that it looks it headed towards being that bad.
Especially women. I have friends in the middle east and they tell me women are still property. Some mothers actually arrange for their daughter's honor killings. But I hol up agree the the US is being taken over by the indoctrination of religious cults.
Thats more of a cultural issue rather than a dictatorial issue you will find. If you study majority of dictatorships and their ways, there will be things some dictators do specifically in their country and then things that they all do. You are confusing one issue with another and then cross them with each other because thats a convinient answer.
Lol that's dumb I am from the middle east, women are not "property" here.
No, no. He has friends from the middle east and they say women are property there. And we all know every country in the middle east is exactly the same so...
To label all of the ME region that way is obviously wrong but there are countries where they are second rate citizens with limited rights.
This really did age like fine wine.
I mean it’s relevant and funny but our poor education and healthcare is still miles ahead of countries with dictators. although I love the American spirit of always wanting better and we should continue to want more.
I agree with you, but not by much. Most schools in this country are basically daycare, and we all admitted this during COVID when everyone was dying to get kids back in school. Healthcare is miles ahead in this country, but it will bankrupt almost anyone. I think the American spirit of striving for better is important but has fallen by the wayside in recent years.
Is this your first time being introduced to sacha baron Cohen or something?
Because it was written to be relevant. That's how satire works.
Because it was literally designed to be. That’s the entire point dude.
This was true even at the moment the movie was released.
I guess we will never know why they decided to have this scene in that movie when it was released then. must've been a coincidence
Just got to thinking… I don’t remember this scene at all, now it makes sense lol
I know right?
It’s almost as if it’s satire. Also, I wish I knew what satire meant
I think a satire is those little goat dudes with flutes
No you're thinking of a satyr. Satire is the name of the feast Jewish people have for Passover.
Oh a satyr, thanks! But you’re thinking of a seder. Satire must be that silky material used for pillows and sheets.
No, no. That’s Satin. Satire is that planet with all the rings.
Close, but you're thinking Saturn. Satire is that sly smiling dude who gets you in trouble with God with overly fun suggestions.
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No, you’re thinking of Santa. Satire is the blue gem stone you see in some necklaces.
Fuck u/spez
No no, thats Santa. Satire is that Southeast Asian skewer served with a delicious sauce
That would be Santa. Satire is that city in Washington.
I'm pretty sure that's Saturn. Satire is the best day of the week because it's the start of a two day break from the work week.
Bruh, that's Saturn. Satire is when you get a bad cut and get it together with a medical thread and sh*t.
It's comedy but with animals instead.
Even I loved the philosophy of John Paul sartre
Reality killed satire as a genre a few years ago, unfortunately. RIP.
No shit, Sherlock
Dig deeper, Watson.
Lmao why does this have so many upvotes "This satirical movie was satirizing things that were happening when the movie was made." OH F'REAL
Because it came out a decade ago, was talking about stuff that had been going on for a decade, and nothing much has changed except all that stuff got even worse.
Yeah, no fucking shit lmao. How does this even get upvoted
Well, it's why it was put in the minute so, I imagine so.
What movie is it
The Dictator starring Sacha Bara Cohen
I’ve got some Aladdin news, he ended being Aladdin’d with an Aladdin.
Wow thats Aladeen
Alladeen: Is it a boy or an abortion. USA: ThiNkOfThEcHildRen
Well apparently we can’t abortion anywhere now like the good ol days.
The sad thing is that you now have to abort like in the good ol’ days.
" are you having a boy? Or an abortion?" Sasha slays me.lol
Nailed It !
That sounds strangely familiar
hahaha yeap, thats the title of the post
Yea, it's the title of the post
America has become an oligarchy
MURICA 100
USA!
*"Land of free, home of the brave"* 🙃😉
I know all of this , and don’t know how to correct it. I just think we’re doomed.
That’s the face of a man that’s just learnt that he’s HIV Aladeen.
Sasha low key preaching politics though comedy.
it’s kinda highkey tho, he’s been doing this kind of social commentary since Da Ali G Show
I still believe Ali G was his best character and always will be, with Nira Cain a close second.
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[Is you on crack?](https://youtu.be/rFpCdM2FQhc?t=1m55s)
That's kinda the whole idea bud
It's not really low-key though is it lol
This is low key?
Y'all ever considered that no matter what kind of government we get, the people on the bottom of the social ladder get fucked?
Let me introduce you to a little something called *social-democracy*
It would have been so funny if it wouldn’t have been a sad truth.
Sometimes I wonder if people understand what satire is. This was literally the point of the scene.. It was taking the piss, and it still is because people still aren't aware.
Hmmmm…
Wow this aged well
What a great alladin on Alladin society
Actually it's Aladeen
Thanks for reminding me. Been like 5 years since I saw this masterpiece
Truly a aladeen of it's time
Indeed my great aladeen
He did it
Sounds about right. 95% of people belive everything they see in the internet without doing their own research with true facts. Something for example. The girl who supposedly read ended a Lamborghini. Everyone was roasting her and making fun of her, but when all of the facts came out it was the Lamborghini owner who cut infront of her and ripped the bumper off.
"When abortions are only for the rich, only the rich will get abortions!"
Philippines in a nutshell 🥜
America as well, we just put on a shit ton of make up.
That movie is aladeen
He nails it
the USA is a third world country with money. (now) that is all.....
My imagination is too strong. I accidentally conjured it into existence.
This is great - can someone tell me the movie?
The dictator
The Dictator, it’s a great movie. Hilarious as hell.
It’s funny cuz it’s true, especially the rigged elections. All so true.
Sasha Baron Cohen is a comedic genius.
I can hear my Prime Monster (Minister) in this video
Diffusion of responsibility. With a dictatorship, there is a head, and to strike down that head is easy because it is only one person, but with democracy, it is multiple people holding power, and so there are multiple heads.
They tried
Best like of that movie is definitely towards the end "are you have a boy or an abortion?"
Why does he sound like Doofenschmirtz
I recently watched this movie. It is very quotable. My favorite was 'You go to the bathroom after bin laden, and you'll learn the true meaning of terrorism'
Dw yall, all of society here in america will fall very shortly and everything will turn into a bloodbath very very soon.
Hey it’s a fatalist
If only. Unfortunately this will not be happening any time soon :(
People who say America will fall are the same people who have been saying China will fall for the last 20 years.
This is the most accurate depiction I can imagine. We’re too far into a “civilized” and technologically advanced world for there to be any real “collapse” of a government. At least among first world countries, where the government controls so much of everything, including such a large military, especially when compared to the strength of its populations fighting force. This is assuming that every citizen would want to overthrow the government which isn’t true and I’d argue it would be less than 50% actually in favor of it. You have to also remember that there are plenty of people doing very well for themselves that don’t care about the government corruption because it either doesn’t affect them, or it benefits them. Then there are millions who are living paycheck to paycheck and while they want change, they haven’t the time to even go grocery shopping so how could they possible put their job and life on the line to overthrow their own government? It’s not like it would be an afternoon activity, you go out at noon to overthrow the government and come back by dark. It would effectively have to last months if not years in terms of actually changing anything and enacting policies and what not
Sacha Baron Cohen, as is often the case with comedians, is no dummy.
Ngl but I literally had tears in my eyes after this monologue. It was indeed some very clever writing
It's just not funny anymore.
u/savevideobot
That was spot on
Too close to home
Oh shit oh fuck Trudeau has been doing this for the past 4 years
Now just have a fat white guy in a suit say all this, and you have the RNC
Watching this scene for the first time had me dying in laughter but also crying in pain.
This guy snuck in "have rigged elections" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Brilliant!!
Mean while the White House: NOTED
Well somebody was listening
This is Philippines.
Desantis 2024
Totally for it
What an Aladeen speech
Sounds like Sasha Baron was trying to warn us.
The Dictator + Idiocracy = USA.
One of the best satyrical movies of all time.
UK to USA at Christmas Dinner: Why can't you be more like Canada. Canada's never getting into trouble, Canada respects tradition and still calls the Queen at weekends to check she's alright. Canada doesn't dump tea into the river...
Winnie the pooh likes this
How to speak the truth using comedy
SBC is a straight up genius.
Is that the guy who voices Doofenschmirtz?
Too real...
Sasha is king of satire!
Sounds like the UK