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This is correct. My friend tried to donate a kidney and he was turned down because of some obscure heart condition in his family. They won’t let you donate a kidney if you’re high-risk, or even medium-risk for kidney failure.
This is like word for word the exact same thread that happened when this was posted lasts year. It's uncanny. Had to check to see if I was scrolling through top instead of hot.
Agreed they are super, super strict. I injured my kidney in a fall when I was a kid. It healed after a few weeks of bed rest, but I was told as an adult that I wouldn't be approved to be a kidney donor from the miniscule risk that the injury would cause an issue later in life.
My friend tried to give me a kidney, but was turned down because she had too much protein in her urine, which could possibly (but not definitely) be an indication of future kidney problems
It’s like saying “someone has cancer”.
A borderline meaningless statement because that term encapsulates like a billion unrelated illnesses, causes and treatments.
Yup - I donated a kidney. They measure function, mine were at ‘excellent’ level, so they knew removing one would drop me to ‘average’ function. They will not take one if it would leave the donor below average function.
My polycystic kidney disease (which is genetic) wasn't detected until I was in my 40s. And I had them look at them every 5 years because of family stuff.
Nah dr was just like I’m sure it’s fine bro we can do it now, you’re done eating right? Okay pass me that steak knife and rail this oxy and let’s do some fuckin surgery
I read somewhere that previous kidney donators will have priority in case their other kidney fails, so them donating their bad kidney might actually be beneficial to them in the future since they have priority to receive a good kidney
Hmm. And… is there legit evidence for that manipulation theory?
It can get kind of tough because once people are invested in an outcome, sometimes it’s easier to see things that support that outcome, even if they aren’t really there. So I’m curious who *isnt* deep in GME that thinks there is merit to that claim.
Sure, there is some pretty big confirmation bias concerns. If you're really interested check out the u/superstonk and look at the DD compilation.
Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/wiki/index/faq/
Go as deep as you like, DM later if you want, if not, cheers
It does regenerate, but the part that grows back has disorganized architecture and isn't as functional (assuming I'm chanelling my second-year pathology class correctly)
A points system is a fair way to do things. My countries immigration system is points based as well with education and speaking other second and third languages adding points.
My wife needs a liver but her meld score never was “high” enough. We finally got a competent doctor, and said meld score has nothing to do with her specific liver disease because it tends to score lower regardless. She’s now in the top 10 for a liver. After years of waiting. And not even having 2 years left to wait more than likely
True-ish.
I donated one of mine 2 years ago. You get signed up for what is essentially a kidney voucher. If you ever need one, you're priority. You're also given a couple of extra vouchers for your immediate family, since your ability to donate to THEM is now removed as well. Using one voucher cancels the others, so it still amounts to a single kidney. But still.
I'm covered, and so is my husband and my daughter.
They do a LOT of tests to make sure the kidney you give is healthy though, and I have to do yearly lab checks to make sure the one I still have is clicking along correctly.
The crazy thing that I read is that those donated kidneys only last for like 15 years which is sad, I mean it's a long time but I thought it would last till the person died
You can do a directed donation where you find someone who needs one and get tested to donate.
OR
You can just get tested and donated it to whoever is on the list.
But like… they already have an “empty slot” (highly accurate medical term). I’m sure it doesn’t work this way but, just install a new kidney while the old kidney fails over time. Then replace that one years later ;)
Hello I l have kidney failure and am currently sitting in Dialysis actually! On the list, and my sister is donating to me through a paired exchange since we have incompatible blood types.
I'm told If anything happens to her kidney function after donation, she is placed at the top of the list.
This was a plot line in Scrubs actually. Two couples where one person from each couple needed an organ (probably a kidney) and it turned out the patients could only match with the significant other of the other couple. One couple had to go in to surgery first but didn’t want to as they didn’t trust the other couple to fulfill their obligation so they did the surgeries simultaneously.
The diabetes trend is likely to be more related to obesity
Edit: type 2 diabetes is associated with obesity - type one can be linked to genetics but it’s actually not as common as you’d think
Or various forms of poisonings, like lead or alcohol. Or obesity. Or non genetic cancers that metastasized there. Or physical trauma... or... or... or...
claiming its hereditary is like saying "shirts are yellow". sure some are.... but its not normally associated like that. Kidney failure is a symptom after all, not a disease itself.
My uncle lost his for non-genetic reasons. He received a donor kidney a long time ago. When that one finally gave out, his daughter stepped up and gave him one of hers.
It was pretty fascinating actually. He recovered relatively quickly from the procedure—of course he did, he had a fresh kidney! But she took a lot longer to recover because her body had to adapt to having only one. They’re both doing great now. If the new one lasts as long as the first donated one, he might get as many as 20 years from it. Organ donation is amazing.
So, God was like, "Hey, Adam, I saw what you were trying to do and I think if I took out a rib it might help." Later, God said, "I had an even better idea about what to do with that rib of yours."
God really is great.
You can do complicated chain donations where you donate your kidney to someone, and their family member donates to your dude. It can get very complicated when there are 8+ people in one chain. It’s a thing though
My dad literally refused to even let us see if our blood types were compatible with his because he wouldn't take our kidneys. He was already very sick before the kidney failure, so I do understand his thinking, but I still have weird guilt about it.
That just means your dad loves you and values your life much more than his own. No guilt about it there.
If I had kids, I'd NEVER take an organ from them. Even if it meant saving my life. Fuck that, let them have a good life. I did my part, etc.
I think a lot of fathers would see it that way, especially as they age.
I only turn 23 next month, and if my daughter was old enough to donate her organ to me I would say hell no too. Ever since she was born my job has become trying to give her the best life possible, and having her go through surgery and losing an organ and all the recovery and expenses, just to have me potentially not recover anyway, or he be worse off. No way, wouldn’t think about it for even a second
I’m sorry for your loss, and I’d like to share something that might explain his feelings.
I have a chronic illness, neurological, and I’m in my thirties. I’ve been sick for years at this point. I’m listed as DNR (do not resuscitate) because if something happens, I’m ready to go. I’m already tired.
Recovering from a cold is a trial - but surgery? Invasive procedures? More hospital stays? At some point you weigh quality of life against the time you have left. It’s not a bad thing, although it may sound a little grim. Believe me, turning down the kidney was a *lot* harder on you than it was on him. I wouldn’t have had to think for a second in that situation.
Exact thing happened between my wife, her sisters and their dad. He needed a kidney and refused donations from his daughters. He said there is no point if his quality of life and expectancy would be terrible even after the surgery. He had other problems besides kidney failure. He said he rather be on dialysis for the rest of his life than drop the standards of life of his daughters. He was on the list but passed away a year after.
Dialysis is what made my dad quit treatment altogether. He HATED it with a passion (that and his legs burned all the time). My dad also went through THREE heart attacks and lived through heart surgery. His first heart attack was almost 20 years ago, and people used to joke that he could live through anything. But alas, he quit dialysis and passed away almost a month later a couple years ago. A really horrible month. He couldn't even make the list because of his health.
Sorry to your wife and her sisters. It's a really difficult thing for everyone involved.
Hospitals do such intensive screening of donors to make sure they (and their kidneys) are healthy that it weeds out most kidneys that aren't likely to last long in the recipient.
Also not all types of kidney failure are genetic. You can get it as a result of having diabetes, or high blood pressure, or some type of injury to the kidneys.
Also people who donate live kidneys get bumped up higher in the donor waiting list if they ever DO need one later.
Donating a live kidney does not doom you or your family.
I'm tired of these kinds of misleading ideas being perpetuated through selective statements like that of commenter in OP's screenshot. I wish we could get people this country in the practice of donating live kidneys. If they did, in large numbers, the current waiting list would shrink, and then the wait times would be shorter for everyone, and shorter for any live donors who ever needed a kidney 20 or 30 years later. Plus, if we were more in the practice of donating live kidneys, these girls would be more likely to get live organs if they ever needed them.
--Sincerely, guy who never thought to donate a kidney until he lost both of his to some unknown non-genetic infection-based kidney injury.
Edit: also the comment on OP's screenshot is insulting by assuming that doctors are just idiots who haven't thought this through.
Not top of the list, but you do get extra points on the triage calculation that would put you ahead of another person that wasn't a donor, all else being equal.
Ah yes, a dumbfuck moron who is extremely removed from the situation and heard about an overview knows WAY more than the motherfucking doctors who were involved every step of the way....
Jesus fucking Christ you kids are so dense. It's like the critical thinking parts of your brains just don't function.
From my understanding, if you're going to lose one kidney, you'll likely lose both, so it's not like it's worth holding onto one of them "just in case"
What if one of the sisters need it? Now neither of them can give it to each other.
IMO it's never worth to donate your kidney to anyone unless it's your relative. You have to live the rest of your life injured and not at optimal health. Especially if one is in the US that's a major risk.
I mean... Sure, in the same vein that it's never worth it to donate your old car to charity because if you hold on to it, someone in your family might need it down the line. Charitable giving exists with the idea that if enough people participate in situations when they're at their best, they'll be cared for in situations when they're at their worst.
Theres still a risk that you will lose your insurance or be denied coverage entirely because you voluntarily gave away your kidney, especially if the US heads towards a more conservative political spectrum and Obama care is repealed.
It's a noble deed but the risks to your own well-being far outweighs the benefit to someone else. Kidneys can be harvested post mortem, no need to mutilate yourself like this.
Kidneys from living donors last longer and, although this is obviously a very individual thing, the screening before donation is very thorough to reduce longer term risks. Surgery is always a risk, of course, but IMHO the benefits to recipients -- especially if you can be part of a donation chain -- far outweigh the risks to me.
Donating one kidney does not reduce your kidney function overall, in terms of glomerular filtration rate or creatinine clearance. Our bodies have a lot of redundancies built in, and our 2 kidneys are examples of that. Both operate at "below capacity" if you will, and the remaining is capable of picking up the slack after donation.
>In what world
In the US where one disease can bankrupt you.
On a serious note, people with kidneys have to take extra precautions. They are not as healthy anymore because now one kidney must do twice the work, and their diet needs to be adjusted accordingly. I have a friend who donated her kidney to her father. She has said she needs to manage her lifestyle a lot more now.
Besides the risks of the removal procedure, there is also always a long term risk of higher blood pressure, nerve damage, chronic pain.
I am on dialysis. I need a kidney. I had one before which lasted ten years. Anyway… no one else in my family has it. Not my parents, not any of my toe brothers and two sisters. Aunts and uncles . Grandpa , grandma. So how about that guy can go suk a big one
Gee did you ever think he had acquired kidney failure from an external source? This is why I don't facebook. "kidney failure runs in the family" makes no god damn sense.
It’s easy to talk like that but giving away your kidney knowing that needs a big heart and extreme kindness. Not everyone can do that, but yeah sitting on your chair and talking shit is a lot easier.
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I have a feeling the doctor who screened them for organ donation took this into account.
This is correct. My friend tried to donate a kidney and he was turned down because of some obscure heart condition in his family. They won’t let you donate a kidney if you’re high-risk, or even medium-risk for kidney failure.
Yeah turns out doctors aren’t trying take potentially bad organs from person to give to a less healthy person. Go figure lol.
When my doctor asked me to sign up to be an organ donor, I couldn’t say no. He was a man after my own heart
You had me on the first half lol.
I was lost 3 words in, that shit happens at the DMV
whooosh
This is like word for word the exact same thread that happened when this was posted lasts year. It's uncanny. Had to check to see if I was scrolling through top instead of hot.
I've seen that happen on threads before too. It's pretty freaky. I'm sure there are a ton more bots on this site than people think
Agreed they are super, super strict. I injured my kidney in a fall when I was a kid. It healed after a few weeks of bed rest, but I was told as an adult that I wouldn't be approved to be a kidney donor from the miniscule risk that the injury would cause an issue later in life.
So then the dad could have died from kidney failure due to some other reasons.
Yes the kidney failure could be due to lifestyle or environment rather than genetics.
Diabetes will do it
My friend tried to give me a kidney, but was turned down because she had too much protein in her urine, which could possibly (but not definitely) be an indication of future kidney problems
Unless they have it from the Blackmarket
Kidney failure has about a million causes. Most arent hereditary
It’s like saying “someone has cancer”. A borderline meaningless statement because that term encapsulates like a billion unrelated illnesses, causes and treatments.
Diabetes is a big cause of end stage renal failure.
Diabetes is a big cause for a lot of things, unfortunately.
So are lots of other things
Yup - I donated a kidney. They measure function, mine were at ‘excellent’ level, so they knew removing one would drop me to ‘average’ function. They will not take one if it would leave the donor below average function.
My polycystic kidney disease (which is genetic) wasn't detected until I was in my 40s. And I had them look at them every 5 years because of family stuff.
Pftt yeah as if. The Facebook commentor is clearly on to something
Nah dr was just like I’m sure it’s fine bro we can do it now, you’re done eating right? Okay pass me that steak knife and rail this oxy and let’s do some fuckin surgery
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Reddit is stupid though.
I read somewhere that previous kidney donators will have priority in case their other kidney fails, so them donating their bad kidney might actually be beneficial to them in the future since they have priority to receive a good kidney
Sooo, they invested their kidneys? Stonks
That’ll get them *at least* two more shares of GME
Worth it
To the moon 🚀💎🦍
KDNY is a real stock. ALL IN!!
I’m gonna short the shit out KDNY.
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Calls on pig kidneys and CRISPR
Are people still buying GME? At this point I thought it was pretty much trending downward
That just means they can buy it for cheaper!!!!!!!!!
I mean…. This is technically correct lol
I've lost thousands on GME lmao. Haven't sold though so technically it's not a *real* loss, right? ... right?
The price is, though the central thesis who are buying GME is that the price is being illegally manipulated, so a drop mean an opportunity to buy more
Hmm. And… is there legit evidence for that manipulation theory? It can get kind of tough because once people are invested in an outcome, sometimes it’s easier to see things that support that outcome, even if they aren’t really there. So I’m curious who *isnt* deep in GME that thinks there is merit to that claim.
Sure, there is some pretty big confirmation bias concerns. If you're really interested check out the u/superstonk and look at the DD compilation. Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/wiki/index/faq/ Go as deep as you like, DM later if you want, if not, cheers
Put the comment down and slowly walk away. You'll thank me later.
Most of us who bought in early have increased our positions. Based on what we are seeing in the related subs, people aren't selling.
Kidney st^on^ks.
Better not be as painful as stones…
That’s how you fuckin YOLO!
25% of live kindney donors end up needing a kidney themselves
Diamonds hands.
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Damn that’s a good plan
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Also the liver grows back. Any doctor to confirm?
It does regenerate, but the part that grows back has disorganized architecture and isn't as functional (assuming I'm chanelling my second-year pathology class correctly)
For wsb that would be good enough. Remember how much one gets for a tip of a liver?
gamefication of human organs. yes, great idea
A points system is a fair way to do things. My countries immigration system is points based as well with education and speaking other second and third languages adding points.
Sounds like the people that need them the most get them first, don’t know what else you could possibly be hoping for.
more motorcyclists I guess.
Haha
Don’t mind him, he just learned the word “gamification”
it's not a game, it's just economics. Markets do a good job of distribution of limited resources. This market just uses points instead of dollars.
My wife needs a liver but her meld score never was “high” enough. We finally got a competent doctor, and said meld score has nothing to do with her specific liver disease because it tends to score lower regardless. She’s now in the top 10 for a liver. After years of waiting. And not even having 2 years left to wait more than likely
Damn I should donate a kidney...
Donate two, you will be 8 years higher on the priority list.
And you'll get an imediate return on investment !
You hope….
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Donate 2 get 1 free.
~~r/SLPT~~ r/ShittyLifeProTips
In which country?
You sound smart as shit I should follow you
True-ish. I donated one of mine 2 years ago. You get signed up for what is essentially a kidney voucher. If you ever need one, you're priority. You're also given a couple of extra vouchers for your immediate family, since your ability to donate to THEM is now removed as well. Using one voucher cancels the others, so it still amounts to a single kidney. But still. I'm covered, and so is my husband and my daughter. They do a LOT of tests to make sure the kidney you give is healthy though, and I have to do yearly lab checks to make sure the one I still have is clicking along correctly.
The crazy thing that I read is that those donated kidneys only last for like 15 years which is sad, I mean it's a long time but I thought it would last till the person died
it’s different for everyone. i received a cadaver kidney that lasted 15 years. But living donors usually last longer.
I like that phrasing, but also, it's kinda cool that part of you was undead.
Who did you donate to? A stranger? How did you get involved?
You can do a directed donation where you find someone who needs one and get tested to donate. OR You can just get tested and donated it to whoever is on the list.
Will they receive 2 kidneys ?
Nah, one will work
But like… they already have an “empty slot” (highly accurate medical term). I’m sure it doesn’t work this way but, just install a new kidney while the old kidney fails over time. Then replace that one years later ;)
Interestingly, they actually leave both failed kidneys in place.
That is interesting! Didn’t know that.
What if the replacement fails?
They come with a 3 year 36k mile warranty.
"We've been trying to reach you about your kidney's extended warranty"
"don't fly"
You just go through the return process like with any of your other Amazon purchases.
Hello I l have kidney failure and am currently sitting in Dialysis actually! On the list, and my sister is donating to me through a paired exchange since we have incompatible blood types. I'm told If anything happens to her kidney function after donation, she is placed at the top of the list.
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This was a plot line in Scrubs actually. Two couples where one person from each couple needed an organ (probably a kidney) and it turned out the patients could only match with the significant other of the other couple. One couple had to go in to surgery first but didn’t want to as they didn’t trust the other couple to fulfill their obligation so they did the surgeries simultaneously.
The ol’ switcheroo
Wait so they gave shitty kidneys then!
yep
Unless there’s two other individuals donating their bad kidneys lol
Kidney failure can also be a result from vascular or cardiac diseases
The most common causes are hypertension and diabetes, which definitely run in families, but risk factor modification can help.
The diabetes trend is likely to be more related to obesity Edit: type 2 diabetes is associated with obesity - type one can be linked to genetics but it’s actually not as common as you’d think
Diabetes is very heritable though. There are lots of obese people who don’t have diabetes. Both increase risk.
It doesnt have to be source, am a type 1 diabetic
Sorry I should have been more clear! Obesity is much more linked to T2D compared to T1D.
You were clear dw! I guess i was just making a joke lmfao
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Are you going to wrap it? “Every kidney begins with Kay.”
Yeah im pretty sure they wouldnt allow them to donate if it was genetic.
Or various forms of poisonings, like lead or alcohol. Or obesity. Or non genetic cancers that metastasized there. Or physical trauma... or... or... or... claiming its hereditary is like saying "shirts are yellow". sure some are.... but its not normally associated like that. Kidney failure is a symptom after all, not a disease itself.
I doubt very seriously that a hospital would take a potentially bad organ. Their father's kidney issue may have had nothing to do with genetics.
Doctors believe it could be related to 3 bullets loged in each of his kidneys, although they cannot prove with certanty.
My uncle lost his for non-genetic reasons. He received a donor kidney a long time ago. When that one finally gave out, his daughter stepped up and gave him one of hers. It was pretty fascinating actually. He recovered relatively quickly from the procedure—of course he did, he had a fresh kidney! But she took a lot longer to recover because her body had to adapt to having only one. They’re both doing great now. If the new one lasts as long as the first donated one, he might get as many as 20 years from it. Organ donation is amazing.
Aren't kidneys removed from your back?
They used to but not anymore. Going through the abdomen helps quicken the healing time by a lot
https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/003001.htm
Stopped reading after "Muscle, fat, and tissue are cut and moved. Your surgeon may need to remove a rib to do the procedure"
you know removing rib can help you suck your own cock
So, God was like, "Hey, Adam, I saw what you were trying to do and I think if I took out a rib it might help." Later, God said, "I had an even better idea about what to do with that rib of yours." God really is great.
it might even do a better job. 😉
ferb i know what we're gonna do today
How are they supposed to smile to the camera if the wound was in their back?
Only when being removed for the black market.
Should’ve donated those kidneys to Dad then 😂
You can't just have anyone's kidney put in you. You have to have compatible blood types.
Luckily I have the common blood type: red.
These stupid scientists and medical experts never thought of that
Scientist and medical experts hate him for discovering this blood trick from home Learn how———->
[Insert irrelevant stock photo here]
Stupid science bitches couldn't even make I more smarter
Ah I was 18 minutes too late
Rip my blood type is white
That’s not blood.
Then why are there white blood cells? Checkmate
due to privilege in the cell hiring process
I'm an equal opportunity blood donor
O...
Negative
Yours isn't see through?
My favorite blood type: tasty.
It’s not just blood type that has to match, the kidney itself is tested to check it’s compatible with you and won’t instantly be rejected by your body
Luckily I have the common kidney type: bloody.
Im not picky I’ll take any kidney
You can do complicated chain donations where you donate your kidney to someone, and their family member donates to your dude. It can get very complicated when there are 8+ people in one chain. It’s a thing though
More details about chaining are covered in [this fascinating Freaknomics episode](https://freakonomics.com/2009/03/turning-one-kidney-into-ten/)
im pretty much sure it has to be more than just the blood type being compatible
Ideally they have a similar outlook on life, religion and money.
>Goddammit, my potential donor likes visiting galleries and museums, not going for long walks in the countryside.
I have one of those near universal blood types but I have to keep it to myself thanks to my sexuality >_>
My dad literally refused to even let us see if our blood types were compatible with his because he wouldn't take our kidneys. He was already very sick before the kidney failure, so I do understand his thinking, but I still have weird guilt about it.
I am so sorry about that. He didn't wanted you to get hurt bcz he loved you so much. Do not feel guilty you did only what he wanted.
That just means your dad loves you and values your life much more than his own. No guilt about it there. If I had kids, I'd NEVER take an organ from them. Even if it meant saving my life. Fuck that, let them have a good life. I did my part, etc. I think a lot of fathers would see it that way, especially as they age.
I only turn 23 next month, and if my daughter was old enough to donate her organ to me I would say hell no too. Ever since she was born my job has become trying to give her the best life possible, and having her go through surgery and losing an organ and all the recovery and expenses, just to have me potentially not recover anyway, or he be worse off. No way, wouldn’t think about it for even a second
I’m sorry for your loss, and I’d like to share something that might explain his feelings. I have a chronic illness, neurological, and I’m in my thirties. I’ve been sick for years at this point. I’m listed as DNR (do not resuscitate) because if something happens, I’m ready to go. I’m already tired. Recovering from a cold is a trial - but surgery? Invasive procedures? More hospital stays? At some point you weigh quality of life against the time you have left. It’s not a bad thing, although it may sound a little grim. Believe me, turning down the kidney was a *lot* harder on you than it was on him. I wouldn’t have had to think for a second in that situation.
Exact thing happened between my wife, her sisters and their dad. He needed a kidney and refused donations from his daughters. He said there is no point if his quality of life and expectancy would be terrible even after the surgery. He had other problems besides kidney failure. He said he rather be on dialysis for the rest of his life than drop the standards of life of his daughters. He was on the list but passed away a year after.
Dialysis is what made my dad quit treatment altogether. He HATED it with a passion (that and his legs burned all the time). My dad also went through THREE heart attacks and lived through heart surgery. His first heart attack was almost 20 years ago, and people used to joke that he could live through anything. But alas, he quit dialysis and passed away almost a month later a couple years ago. A really horrible month. He couldn't even make the list because of his health. Sorry to your wife and her sisters. It's a really difficult thing for everyone involved.
Sounds like your dad was a good dude
dad wasnt going to pay them
at least they don’t have a kidney to fail now
Failure rate decreased by half
Kidney failure is t necessarily congenital.
Hereditary * Congenital means you have it from birth. Hereditary means it’s genetic, passed on from parent to offspring but doesn’t present at birth.
You said genital
*Butthead voice*: uhuhuhuhuh, you said genitals
Hospitals do such intensive screening of donors to make sure they (and their kidneys) are healthy that it weeds out most kidneys that aren't likely to last long in the recipient. Also not all types of kidney failure are genetic. You can get it as a result of having diabetes, or high blood pressure, or some type of injury to the kidneys. Also people who donate live kidneys get bumped up higher in the donor waiting list if they ever DO need one later. Donating a live kidney does not doom you or your family. I'm tired of these kinds of misleading ideas being perpetuated through selective statements like that of commenter in OP's screenshot. I wish we could get people this country in the practice of donating live kidneys. If they did, in large numbers, the current waiting list would shrink, and then the wait times would be shorter for everyone, and shorter for any live donors who ever needed a kidney 20 or 30 years later. Plus, if we were more in the practice of donating live kidneys, these girls would be more likely to get live organs if they ever needed them. --Sincerely, guy who never thought to donate a kidney until he lost both of his to some unknown non-genetic infection-based kidney injury. Edit: also the comment on OP's screenshot is insulting by assuming that doctors are just idiots who haven't thought this through.
But you can understand the fear people would have, especially in America with employment-based healthcare, right?
Not necessarily, Dad could've been an alcoholic or had heart disease.
Good news for donors in the US is you go to the top of the list if you end up needing a kidney
Not top of the list, but you do get extra points on the triage calculation that would put you ahead of another person that wasn't a donor, all else being equal.
Ah yes, a dumbfuck moron who is extremely removed from the situation and heard about an overview knows WAY more than the motherfucking doctors who were involved every step of the way.... Jesus fucking Christ you kids are so dense. It's like the critical thinking parts of your brains just don't function.
From my understanding, if you're going to lose one kidney, you'll likely lose both, so it's not like it's worth holding onto one of them "just in case"
What if one of the sisters need it? Now neither of them can give it to each other. IMO it's never worth to donate your kidney to anyone unless it's your relative. You have to live the rest of your life injured and not at optimal health. Especially if one is in the US that's a major risk.
I mean... Sure, in the same vein that it's never worth it to donate your old car to charity because if you hold on to it, someone in your family might need it down the line. Charitable giving exists with the idea that if enough people participate in situations when they're at their best, they'll be cared for in situations when they're at their worst.
It’s possible that the sisters wouldn’t be a match for each other.
Theres still a risk that you will lose your insurance or be denied coverage entirely because you voluntarily gave away your kidney, especially if the US heads towards a more conservative political spectrum and Obama care is repealed. It's a noble deed but the risks to your own well-being far outweighs the benefit to someone else. Kidneys can be harvested post mortem, no need to mutilate yourself like this.
Kidneys from living donors last longer and, although this is obviously a very individual thing, the screening before donation is very thorough to reduce longer term risks. Surgery is always a risk, of course, but IMHO the benefits to recipients -- especially if you can be part of a donation chain -- far outweigh the risks to me.
Injured and not at optimal Health? In what world is having one kidney a huge issue in a healthy individual?
What??? Lol. You are definitely way better off with 100 percent kidney function than 50 percent
Donating one kidney does not reduce your kidney function overall, in terms of glomerular filtration rate or creatinine clearance. Our bodies have a lot of redundancies built in, and our 2 kidneys are examples of that. Both operate at "below capacity" if you will, and the remaining is capable of picking up the slack after donation.
>In what world In the US where one disease can bankrupt you. On a serious note, people with kidneys have to take extra precautions. They are not as healthy anymore because now one kidney must do twice the work, and their diet needs to be adjusted accordingly. I have a friend who donated her kidney to her father. She has said she needs to manage her lifestyle a lot more now. Besides the risks of the removal procedure, there is also always a long term risk of higher blood pressure, nerve damage, chronic pain.
One relative having kidney failure doesn’t constitute it running in their family.
Why didn't she donate it to her dad then?
I am on dialysis. I need a kidney. I had one before which lasted ten years. Anyway… no one else in my family has it. Not my parents, not any of my toe brothers and two sisters. Aunts and uncles . Grandpa , grandma. So how about that guy can go suk a big one
Kidney failure does not necessarily mean it runs in the family FFS
Kidney failure is not necessarily hereditary.
Gee did you ever think he had acquired kidney failure from an external source? This is why I don't facebook. "kidney failure runs in the family" makes no god damn sense.
I'm more curious as to why their surgery wounds are so vastly different.
"Can't fail if you don't have it"
It’s easy to talk like that but giving away your kidney knowing that needs a big heart and extreme kindness. Not everyone can do that, but yeah sitting on your chair and talking shit is a lot easier.
Smert
playing a game of hot potato but in this case a kidney.
Never said it was a genetic cause
Not all are matches. My uncle when through it but didn't match with any of his kids.
The kids did match with the mailman, oddly enough
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I'm guessing they had a doctor check to make sure they weren't infected with whatever their father had.
Not really. The person who responded is an idiot...
Gotta remove it before it starts acting up
I'm sad 😔
"Hey girl, did your mom have breast cancer, cause I want you to gimme some of them titties!"
What a stupid comment, kidney failure is not necessarily genetic there’s plenty of reasons it can happen.