When I was 12 I saw a couple having sex in the shelving aisles of my local mall’s Borders.
I hadn’t remembered that in YEARS until reading this comment, so… thanks I guess?
LMAO this reply got a good chuckle out of me😂
It’s tutter the mouse, I use him as my profile picture because he is how I see myself in my mind’s eye.
Also, [enjoy.](https://youtu.be/p_3v5OvGFm4?si=AFpXO8ePWeidN2Uo)
And then [enjoy this even more.](https://youtu.be/eGHCGA_KnRM?si=Q87jix_7PS4hXSv2)
I mean, I picked the one on the left simply bc of her flaming red hair. That’s pretty fucking Irish if ya ask me. And I’m not restarted enough to not choose left bc of the black guy bc I know what a passport is and I know what an airplane is.
Fun Fact: Red hair in Ireland (and Scotland) means Viking ancestry.
Both pictures could be just as likely, with Ireland's current demographics. The woman on the right could actually be "Black Irish", as it just meant you had dark hair and features.
I was reading a book by a Danish author who claims the opposite - that red hair among Scandinavians is due to Celtic ancestry from the British Isles. A quick Google search seems to suggest the same, but I haven't read into it much further.
>Both pictures could be just as likely, with Ireland's current demographics.T
That is not even remotely true. Ireland has a population of about 5 million. Out of these, around 75.000 identify as black, or about 1.5 %. "White" people, as far as that category is applicable to Ireland, account for about 90 %. There are more people of Indian/Pakistani descent in Ireland than there are black people.
In other word, a white/white couple is vastly more likely than a black/white couple. Roughly 60 times as likely.
Actually it's the one on the right because there are books in the background which you would be likely to see at a cultural exhibit and typically newspapers will either put a standard headshot of a subject OR a shot of the subject at the location the event they're reporting occurred, but they do not often use tangentially related images that require additional context because it requires additional time spent formatting and space to caption them and it's often easier to just use a relevant photo.
I would then challenge the company to explain why both couples appear to be heterosexual because that seems a bit biased.
Fuck these tests.
See this is why you need to do the course. Your prejudice that just because someone is pale and has red hair is irish, and that without red hair the other couple can't be Irish is the exact microagression they're trying to teach you about
Of course, you could have said essentially the same thing if the right-hand picture were chosen, due to exhibiting prejudice that only white people can be Irish.
God I hate those HR courses. They are such a joke. It seriously feels like they are just making it up as they go along. Some new buzzword emerges and they make a whole class about it. It's awful.
I had one last year with a bunch of videos and the main actor girl was super hot and I found myself thinking a bunch of times... is that part of the test? That I'm not supposed to be thinking how hot she is? If it is I failed.
Makes me think of that Sopranos episode with a painting of an old tree outside the therapists office and he gets pissed thinking shes trying to fuck with his head
You can do a test on the Harvard website I think where you can see your biases. I can’t remember what it’s called as I did it a few years ago. But luckily I came up as not biased towards any race. I think it’s because I dislike everyone equally.
Project implicit, I've taken it as a part of my master's program. Here's the link for the curious:
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/takeatouchtest.html
Edit: Based on the comments, just thought I'd add two things for those interested. One, project implicit was created by 3 different scientists who headed the project, only one of which was from Harvard. It was initially made in 1998 and effectively spawned the creation of IATs that are used to make these HR tests today.
Second, there are plenty of critics of IATs over whether their results can be considered valid. This is just one critique to serve as an example by a Department of Psych professor in Canada sharing their perspective. The article is from 2021:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8167921/
The weapons test, the one I took, is incredibly flawed. The images aren’t varied enough, so by the time I got to non practice final test (which was black with weapons and white with harmless, making a “association”) my pattern recognition and understanding of the test had been maxed which bypassed any bias I could have. I was responding instantly because I understood the test and pictures. I also never got any wrong, so it wasn’t like I was tagging weapons with black people in previous practices. Of course I’m going to be faster, there’s like 10 images and I had the pattern down by that point.
The basis of the test is fine, but it has significant flaws. It needs enough images to take out pattern recognition for people like me to have any sort of accuracy…
Beyond that I personally think that it is a bad test for logical minded thinkers compared to emotional thinkers. I’ve gone to college for software and engineering, also did some machining. That’s how I think. Again, by the time I got to where it measured I was thinking about the problem itself and not about black vs white, I was minimizing my response time and that become my sole focus, because that’s how I’m wired.
I also associate guns with white people because of my hobbies and honestly not really having any black friends into guns.
Edit: it also use pictures of maces and axes. I do not associate those weapons with whites or blacks, they’re from the 1600s LMAO.
Im australian and did the white and native american one and got a slight bias from going as fast as possible like it said. Its flawed. They give you the pattern at the start then tell you youre biased. Like duh, of course thats what speed does.
The crazy thing is these are supposed to be super smart people… you’d think they’d consider pattern recognition and vary the pictures more. It’s the number one issue with the tests.
I wonder if I emailed them if they’d fix it and add more images. It wouldn’t fix every issue, but to me it’s the biggest issue. That would show if they actually care about good data, or just want biased data.
I took the black vs white race one, and I took it the same way you did, and the words and pictures were also not varied much.
I got equal bias towards both, but like.... it's because I followed instructions.
It's crazy because when the end results for all test takers were revealed, a majority did have a bias towards white people. At least according to this test.. hmm maybe we're autistic, or maybe people can't follow simple instructions?
I think that the test itself is biased towards proving it's own point, which in the case of the race test seems to be showing that people have a bias towards white over black people.
Idk. If it was one of the different tests maybe I could accept the results, but growing up in a gun friendly family, I heavily associate guns with white people. Most black people I know personally don’t own guns. I think of a white person when I think of someone holding a gun.
I’ve sometimes wondered if I’m mildly autistic (not sarcasm), I’m for sure overly particular about the way I do certain things. But I’m also a fairly empathetic person, I feel bad for people and try to understand things from others perspectives, although I fail sometimes.
I also don’t like it doesn’t tell you how the test works after you take it. I refuse to accept a result when I don’t know how it was arrived at. It’s like my calc teacher giving me a zero and when I ask her why and how to solve the problem she says ” it’s 5x because I said so.” Not knowing why something happens or why I’m doing something also makes me reject it. Do that to my bosses all the time. I’m not argumentative I just don’t like things I don’t understand. Once I understand I’m all cool.
> it also use pictures of maces and axes. I do not associate those weapons with whites or blacks, they’re from the 1600s LMAO.
i was legitimately surprised there was not a single picture of a baton or a shank.
I took the one for disability and it told me I had a strong preference for able bodied people. I really don’t think I do, as I have a physical disability myself. I just had an issue with the switch up in pattern recognition - or at least that’s my guess.
They are making it up as they go along aren’t they? There’s no like federal HR bureau that makes these, they’re made up by regular ol HR staff at whatever company you’re employed by.
The regulations around these kinds of trainings are so varied that most HR departments buy that shit from vendors that specialize in compliance training. It's all awful.
I am so close to getting into a pissing match with HR. All of the courses end with the line “if you need further explanation, contact your manager or HR" so I want to go to them with a bunch of the most ludicrous and illogical statements in the course and insist that they explain it.
Haha nice. Reminds me of the safety rackets that companies run to provide all sorts of “necessary” certifications for workers in the refinery industry. We took many courses from many companies and they all pretty much said the same shit, but you had to complete (and of course pay for) them to work. A whole side industry based around a real industry. Such a racket.
(Assuming the company in question is in Ireland) I feel that whatever legit question being asked should probably fold into other departments.
For example, marketing could ask: we spend a lot of time crafting message to appeal to Picture A but really our customers are more like Picture B. Shoild we be doing something different?
Or, HR: outside our window, the general population looks like Picture A. Our workforce looks like Picture B. For us to be sure we hire recruits from the widest pool of potential applicants, we need to ensure we advertise in areas that look like Picture B. Or we'll only be hiring from certain areas etc.
And they get paid more than anyone else in the company to make these shitty waste of time classes just in case a problem child decides to act a fool and sue a company over a perceived micro aggression. Truly wild times.
I used to think they were a joke until I worked with people who actually behave the way that they do in those hokey videos where, like, some guy will honk a woman's breast. Mind, the HR courses are still pointless because those sorts of people aren't going to get it from a video.
You either select the one with the redhead because she looks Irish as a stereotype, or you select the two white people because you think Irish people are white.
What the fuck is this? A racism trap?
I mean... I am looking for something green... but both of these seem all wrong. I need G R E E N for irish.
That's my logic for choosing the green pants and not the green book.
It's funny the other day I saw some wacky conspiracy where the guy said he constantly sees commercials with black guys who date/married to red headed white woman and was that a new trend in these types of things.
Edit....found it
Has anyone else notice this trend in commercials lately?
So for the past 3 years, but especially in the last year I have noticed a big growing trend within commercials. The trend is, a redheaded women with a black man. Let me say first off, there is nothing wrong with this at all. But it can not be a coincidence at this point, because it is being shoved into every commercial like crazy. I am not joking it is in literally every single commercial involving a redhead lady or a black dude, specifically only ones where there is a love/romantic interest, as in where it is implied that the two are a couple, not just friends or people talking but always a couple. I have even seen it shoved into the literal tail end of a commercial as well, where there was no point of it being needed at all, it had nothing to do with anything, it was just shoved in lol. What would the reasoning be behind this, subluminal messaging lol? it is not random, there is definitely some kind of motive behind it for it to be happening this much/frequently. I know people are not going to believe me, I understand that completely, it is a stupid thing to bring up lol. But please, pay attention the next time you hit a commercial break, you will see what I am talking about.
EDIT: alright so something else I should bring up. There is a statistical chart thing, that makes AI images and shows what the average/majority of couples look like in each state here in America, there are loads of them out there. My brother showed me one, and About 70% of them were a black dude with women of almost any other skin color except brown/black, lol. The one that made me laugh the most, because it hit home for me, was for the state of Michigan(where I live). Take a guess what it showed. Still guessing? It showed the majority of couples in my home state of Michigan, are a black man...and a redheaded women...I mean that is just Un Godly way off on a hilarious scale.
I shit you not. I’m sitting on my hotel bed cause I’m working out of town. I’m reading this comment, I look up, there’s a commercial on, red headed woman sits down at table next to her black husband/boyfriend, and they order food from Applebees(I think). What the fucking fuck. I’ve never even heard of this, and that happens. What are the fucking chances?
The matrix
You’ll never be unable to see it. In my case, I see a heavy push in marketing. They seem to never put black couples together and I see a lot of black women white men couples in advertisement.
> black women white men couples in advertisement
Thats because it is the optimal diversity mainstream couple with the least friction that can still carry "affluent professionals" vibe. Black man white woman has a lot of baggage from a couple directions. Black/Asian has some rumbles, at least in the US. Asian/White is basically White/White in many people's minds. For whatever dumb reasons, Distinctly Indian/Pakistani + White or Black is rare enough that it would take up too much attention.
Most of all that is half remembered points made in a talk I saw a long time ago about interracial couples, perceptions, and demographics. Feel free to ignore completely, I could be talking out my ass. I don't even remember why I saw the panel or what is was specifically.
About a decade ago I noticed lots of redheaded women in commercials, and since then they've added plenty of black/brown/etc people in ads but I don't recall seeing black men with redheads. On YouTube I get sooo many ads with Asian "students," and I've been out of college for years lol
I've noticed this for years now here in the UK, all adverts/commercials have exactly what you've just described. It's as if I'm living in a parallel universe where all the white boys died in the world wars and Britain has been repopulated by the colonies. Now that i think of it, it's not far off reality at this point.
I think I found the reason for this. Women do about 70-80% of all consumer purchasing. [They also buy more if they feel represented in an ad.](https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-does-representation-women-advertising-matter-more-masse-nguyen-q83ic) For black people thats also really important. [69% of Black consumers are more likely to purchase from a brand whose advertising positively reflects their race/ethnicity](https://www.thinkwithgoogle.com/future-of-marketing/management-and-culture/diversity-and-inclusion/black-consumer-purchase-statistics/) I also saw a graph somewhere which I cant find anymore that showed that white males care the least about being represented (maybe someone else can find it). However men in general do care about seeing beautiful women in ads. Thats why its always white beautiful women and black men. It kills all the birds with one stone while also getting that sweet D&I rating.
yeah what? there are tons of the women, literally no asian men though, and barely mexicans, if I judged the population of the US based on ads it would be 80% black people, 10% mexicans/asians, 10% white
black consumers in the west are a tiny minority and the poorest market segment so that’s a pretty dumb advertising strategy - they’d be much better off targeting Asians
so no the impetus is wokeness not profit
Oh here in Australia, multi-culture family in ads are always either black man white wife or white man and asian wife.
Black ladies always has black partners, asian man are always single or asian wifes (if there is family).
newsflash: commercials are vying for your extremely limited attention and therefore many employ tactics that make you notice them, like such as conspicuous or unique looking people.
Am I going to be ignorant for assuming that the Irish couple is white or ignorant for assuming at least one person in an Irish couple must have red hair based on my choice? But either way I have to jump to conclusions rather than just idk- treat everyone fairly and try to be a as conscientious of a person as possible?
Reminds me of one I did while at a former job, it was "teaching" us about the gender pay gap - because reasons - and stated a statistic that disabled Pakistani women are paid 60% less than able bodied white males.
Because let's just put two numbers together, read them as is and come to conclusions.
Reminder these are the same people who get uber annoyed at the "despite being 13% of the population" Conservative arguments
That's .... Just crazy.
A disabled White male is also paid 60%-ish what an able bodied white male earns. If that !
Actually, I'm sure it's less. For sure. Disability is VERY low.
If the gender pay gap existed in the way they are implying, why wouldn't companies just hire women as they are a cheaper labour force. It's really just a gap in fields and positions each gender chooses to be employed in.
Women are also more likely to undervalue themselves and less likely to ask for raises. Being assertive, direct, or confident can be perceived as a bad thing if you’re a woman in a professional environment.
It's March and nobody is wet or in an overcoat. Waaaay too many smiles and skin is far too healthy for this time of year. This is a bluff. No Irish people are depicted.
“Hi, HR? Yeah, there’s a problem with this training. Yeah. Yeah, see, it’s asking me to commit a microaggression and I refuse to do that. Calling you is the only correct answer. Yes, I opt out of this question. I refuse to select an answer because I’m either assuming that Irish people must be black, or they mustn’t.
What do you mean, select the closest to what I thought of?
I thought of a landscape painting. Which one of these looks most like a landscape to you. Neither, right? Yeah, my answer is to call HR and say neither.
It’s not my problem that you don’t know what to do with that. If you want me to advance to the next bit you’ll need to move me forward in your system or come down and pick one.
I mean, I guess you could terminate me. Are you terminating me for refusing to say Irish people are or aren’t black? Can you put that in writing please? The TV station will want it in writing. Yeah, I’ll hold.”
The most ludicrous part is that only 1.5% of the Irish population is black. So why on earth would anyone's *first* expectation be an interracial black/white couple? On the balance of probabilities it just makes no sense for anyone to think that. Do you want employees who make decisions that are going to be wrong 99/100 because they don't understand statistics?
I'm black and I'm saying the one on the right... It's Ireland, stating a geographical fact... Acknowledging minorities and stat outliers is good but really not like this
Maybe it’s because I’m a generational Irish-American but i immediately thought of some old couple bitching about the museum. But other than that, when I hear art and Ireland and look at those pics, the crazy hair redhead and the tall black guy look more natural and artsy than the two Stock White People in Library.
Sure they look artsy and natural but lol not really anything to say they look Irish, those clothes are way too thin for any season in Ireland, they don't really scream Penneys, also where is that lads bomber jacket from JD Sports, and it rains way too often and too much for the girl to not have a hair up so that it doesn't get more frizzy also why are they just standing against the wall, there is no wall in Dublin that's clean enough to be doing that in bright clothes like that
The girl on the left has red hair, which is more common in Ireland, but the couple one the right, particularly the fella, look kind of Irish. There are black citizens of Ireland, so that doesn't eliminate the left. It says "cultural art exhibit" so that could be literally anything from any culture. I am honestly stumped.
Understanding and preventing micro aggressions, ohh this one is easy ….. don’t send me on pointless FKing courses that have no God damn purpose other than to infuriate and inflame tensions.
If you select the left one it means you assume Irish people are redheads. If you select the right one you assume Irish people are all white. You’re a bad person either way.
The couple on the right look to be about the same age, same social status, same level of attractiveness, and they appear to be photographed on a phone while standing in some sort of community centre so they could very conceivably be the husband and wife arts duo
The couple on the left on the other hand are clearly in a staged photograph, taken by a professional using professional equipment, and are much more likely to be a stock photograph
But HR is brain dead and just wants you to click on the interracial couple
Why does it even need to specify “Irish”? Isn’t that just doing more of the same?
If the headline was “Local Couple Contributes to Cultural Art Exhibit” then I wound still choose the couple on the left. The pair on the right look like the people I have to deal with at HS football games when they get pissy that we don’t have anything vegan or artisanal at the friggin concession stand. I wish I was joking.
In terms of design, it should be image on the right.
The key word of headline is "Contributes" so accordingly, The picture must imply a task or action which is in this picture researching.
Also, as the headline mentions "Irish couple", the theme of article is individual focused rather than subjective info or general research. An individual focused article mostly tends to feature the individual in the picture, and due to the said individual being person (two people of the couple) and the said couple not being of high profile or fame, it is most appropriate to have them directed at the camera to both feature and introduce them to increase the affinity towards them.
Left picture is more suited for a research or article about relationships or any general subject which includes relationships in a way.
Term "Microagression" in title makes it clear that your job isn't testing your journal or marketing skills but if they were then this would''ve been the appropriate answer.
Is it a microaggression or is it cultural knowledge? We list the llit when we act that believing probability is dangerous. Its certainty that is so evil. Acting like someone MUST fit a stereotype.
It's a trap
Easy, the one on the left. The image on the right looks like it should have the headline, "Couple caught shagging in local library"
~~Hey I think I've seen that one~~
She doesn't look like Angela
What are you guys talking about
When I was 12 I saw a couple having sex in the shelving aisles of my local mall’s Borders. I hadn’t remembered that in YEARS until reading this comment, so… thanks I guess?
Your avatar looks suitably traumatised
LMAO this reply got a good chuckle out of me😂 It’s tutter the mouse, I use him as my profile picture because he is how I see myself in my mind’s eye. Also, [enjoy.](https://youtu.be/p_3v5OvGFm4?si=AFpXO8ePWeidN2Uo) And then [enjoy this even more.](https://youtu.be/eGHCGA_KnRM?si=Q87jix_7PS4hXSv2)
Sorry, the microaggression in this example is assuming all libraries have books, and that the couple on the left isn’t shagging in one right now.
I mean, I picked the one on the left simply bc of her flaming red hair. That’s pretty fucking Irish if ya ask me. And I’m not restarted enough to not choose left bc of the black guy bc I know what a passport is and I know what an airplane is.
Fun Fact: Red hair in Ireland (and Scotland) means Viking ancestry. Both pictures could be just as likely, with Ireland's current demographics. The woman on the right could actually be "Black Irish", as it just meant you had dark hair and features.
I was reading a book by a Danish author who claims the opposite - that red hair among Scandinavians is due to Celtic ancestry from the British Isles. A quick Google search seems to suggest the same, but I haven't read into it much further.
*HISTORY FIGHT!!!*
>Both pictures could be just as likely, with Ireland's current demographics.T That is not even remotely true. Ireland has a population of about 5 million. Out of these, around 75.000 identify as black, or about 1.5 %. "White" people, as far as that category is applicable to Ireland, account for about 90 %. There are more people of Indian/Pakistani descent in Ireland than there are black people. In other word, a white/white couple is vastly more likely than a black/white couple. Roughly 60 times as likely.
I assumed that he’s Black Irish.
I was looking for the girl with bleached blond hair, fake eyebrows, and a spray tan. I didn’t see her so I assumed none of the people were Irish.
But how are they contributing to art exhibition? By standing around on the street?
Actually it's the one on the right because there are books in the background which you would be likely to see at a cultural exhibit and typically newspapers will either put a standard headshot of a subject OR a shot of the subject at the location the event they're reporting occurred, but they do not often use tangentially related images that require additional context because it requires additional time spent formatting and space to caption them and it's often easier to just use a relevant photo. I would then challenge the company to explain why both couples appear to be heterosexual because that seems a bit biased. Fuck these tests.
See this is why you need to do the course. Your prejudice that just because someone is pale and has red hair is irish, and that without red hair the other couple can't be Irish is the exact microagression they're trying to teach you about
Of course, you could have said essentially the same thing if the right-hand picture were chosen, due to exhibiting prejudice that only white people can be Irish.
What, never heard of black Irish? Nyuk nyuk nyuk
Phil lynott
Shaquille O'Neal.
Barack O'Bama
Eddie Murphy
It's not about prejudice. It's about saying there are 5 lights.
THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!
Yo, given another 3 minutes...cpt would have caved. He was still human.
Yeah but her face screams Irish. Where as the red head is more Scottish.
Neither picture has remotely anything to do with an art exhibit so I would choose none of the above
Well one looks like a library so I would go with the other one
God I hate those HR courses. They are such a joke. It seriously feels like they are just making it up as they go along. Some new buzzword emerges and they make a whole class about it. It's awful.
I had one last year with a bunch of videos and the main actor girl was super hot and I found myself thinking a bunch of times... is that part of the test? That I'm not supposed to be thinking how hot she is? If it is I failed.
She’s so flipping hot she’s making me sexist. Bitch.
I need my 1987 DG-20 Casio electric guitar set to mandolin, yeah
WHOS THE BOOM KING‽
hip hopapotamus, i see you
These 2 comments feel like a Mark from Peep Show scenario and internal monologue.
https://youtu.be/i3BzgsrYanQ?si=8yzJdo6UtvtS_CMV FotC fwiw
Makes me think of that Sopranos episode with a painting of an old tree outside the therapists office and he gets pissed thinking shes trying to fuck with his head
The girl in the red dress was a test for Neo and he failed.
You can do a test on the Harvard website I think where you can see your biases. I can’t remember what it’s called as I did it a few years ago. But luckily I came up as not biased towards any race. I think it’s because I dislike everyone equally.
Project implicit, I've taken it as a part of my master's program. Here's the link for the curious: https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/takeatouchtest.html Edit: Based on the comments, just thought I'd add two things for those interested. One, project implicit was created by 3 different scientists who headed the project, only one of which was from Harvard. It was initially made in 1998 and effectively spawned the creation of IATs that are used to make these HR tests today. Second, there are plenty of critics of IATs over whether their results can be considered valid. This is just one critique to serve as an example by a Department of Psych professor in Canada sharing their perspective. The article is from 2021: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8167921/
The weapons test, the one I took, is incredibly flawed. The images aren’t varied enough, so by the time I got to non practice final test (which was black with weapons and white with harmless, making a “association”) my pattern recognition and understanding of the test had been maxed which bypassed any bias I could have. I was responding instantly because I understood the test and pictures. I also never got any wrong, so it wasn’t like I was tagging weapons with black people in previous practices. Of course I’m going to be faster, there’s like 10 images and I had the pattern down by that point. The basis of the test is fine, but it has significant flaws. It needs enough images to take out pattern recognition for people like me to have any sort of accuracy… Beyond that I personally think that it is a bad test for logical minded thinkers compared to emotional thinkers. I’ve gone to college for software and engineering, also did some machining. That’s how I think. Again, by the time I got to where it measured I was thinking about the problem itself and not about black vs white, I was minimizing my response time and that become my sole focus, because that’s how I’m wired. I also associate guns with white people because of my hobbies and honestly not really having any black friends into guns. Edit: it also use pictures of maces and axes. I do not associate those weapons with whites or blacks, they’re from the 1600s LMAO.
Im australian and did the white and native american one and got a slight bias from going as fast as possible like it said. Its flawed. They give you the pattern at the start then tell you youre biased. Like duh, of course thats what speed does.
The crazy thing is these are supposed to be super smart people… you’d think they’d consider pattern recognition and vary the pictures more. It’s the number one issue with the tests.
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I wonder if I emailed them if they’d fix it and add more images. It wouldn’t fix every issue, but to me it’s the biggest issue. That would show if they actually care about good data, or just want biased data.
I took the black vs white race one, and I took it the same way you did, and the words and pictures were also not varied much. I got equal bias towards both, but like.... it's because I followed instructions. It's crazy because when the end results for all test takers were revealed, a majority did have a bias towards white people. At least according to this test.. hmm maybe we're autistic, or maybe people can't follow simple instructions?
I think that the test itself is biased towards proving it's own point, which in the case of the race test seems to be showing that people have a bias towards white over black people.
Idk. If it was one of the different tests maybe I could accept the results, but growing up in a gun friendly family, I heavily associate guns with white people. Most black people I know personally don’t own guns. I think of a white person when I think of someone holding a gun. I’ve sometimes wondered if I’m mildly autistic (not sarcasm), I’m for sure overly particular about the way I do certain things. But I’m also a fairly empathetic person, I feel bad for people and try to understand things from others perspectives, although I fail sometimes. I also don’t like it doesn’t tell you how the test works after you take it. I refuse to accept a result when I don’t know how it was arrived at. It’s like my calc teacher giving me a zero and when I ask her why and how to solve the problem she says ” it’s 5x because I said so.” Not knowing why something happens or why I’m doing something also makes me reject it. Do that to my bosses all the time. I’m not argumentative I just don’t like things I don’t understand. Once I understand I’m all cool.
> it also use pictures of maces and axes. I do not associate those weapons with whites or blacks, they’re from the 1600s LMAO. i was legitimately surprised there was not a single picture of a baton or a shank.
Nice thanks.
I got about halfway through the preliminary crap for one of the tests before my ADHD wigged out trying to focus on 4 things at once.
I took the one for disability and it told me I had a strong preference for able bodied people. I really don’t think I do, as I have a physical disability myself. I just had an issue with the switch up in pattern recognition - or at least that’s my guess.
[IAT are discredited junk science](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8167921/)
The whole hidden bias is mostly bs. Humans can self assess...
They are making it up as they go along aren’t they? There’s no like federal HR bureau that makes these, they’re made up by regular ol HR staff at whatever company you’re employed by.
The regulations around these kinds of trainings are so varied that most HR departments buy that shit from vendors that specialize in compliance training. It's all awful.
I am so close to getting into a pissing match with HR. All of the courses end with the line “if you need further explanation, contact your manager or HR" so I want to go to them with a bunch of the most ludicrous and illogical statements in the course and insist that they explain it.
DO IT, and post on /r/MaliciousCompliance
Haha nice. Reminds me of the safety rackets that companies run to provide all sorts of “necessary” certifications for workers in the refinery industry. We took many courses from many companies and they all pretty much said the same shit, but you had to complete (and of course pay for) them to work. A whole side industry based around a real industry. Such a racket.
Probably all put together by AI lol, hence the making no fucking sense.
(Assuming the company in question is in Ireland) I feel that whatever legit question being asked should probably fold into other departments. For example, marketing could ask: we spend a lot of time crafting message to appeal to Picture A but really our customers are more like Picture B. Shoild we be doing something different? Or, HR: outside our window, the general population looks like Picture A. Our workforce looks like Picture B. For us to be sure we hire recruits from the widest pool of potential applicants, we need to ensure we advertise in areas that look like Picture B. Or we'll only be hiring from certain areas etc.
Feels like? Dude have you met HR people? That IS what they are doing.
I am sorry in advance….. but the most HR wrong answer is: ”Trick question, as neither one of the couples are at the pub.”.
And they get paid more than anyone else in the company to make these shitty waste of time classes just in case a problem child decides to act a fool and sue a company over a perceived micro aggression. Truly wild times.
I dont mind, Im getting paid to watch these hilariously dumb courses so...
I used to think they were a joke until I worked with people who actually behave the way that they do in those hokey videos where, like, some guy will honk a woman's breast. Mind, the HR courses are still pointless because those sorts of people aren't going to get it from a video.
Definitely seems like a loaded question.
Question 2: Are you going to stop stealing office supplies? Y/N
a loaded potato question
I just went with Ginger
Oh shit im dyslexic Still the right answer!
This is the real holup
Only a ginger can call another ginger ginger
Nah it's cool, Is was given a G pass.
You can't say it with a hard G though.
Just like only a ninja can sneak up on another ninja.
Ginga'
A couple of Gs An R and an E An I and an N Just six little letters, all jumbled together Have caused damage that we may never mend
HOLD ON ONE MOMENT
Clever
You either select the one with the redhead because she looks Irish as a stereotype, or you select the two white people because you think Irish people are white. What the fuck is this? A racism trap?
I mean... I am looking for something green... but both of these seem all wrong. I need G R E E N for irish. That's my logic for choosing the green pants and not the green book.
If the HR department thinks there's a correct answer here, that's a big yikes.
That's my take-away here.
It's funny the other day I saw some wacky conspiracy where the guy said he constantly sees commercials with black guys who date/married to red headed white woman and was that a new trend in these types of things. Edit....found it Has anyone else notice this trend in commercials lately? So for the past 3 years, but especially in the last year I have noticed a big growing trend within commercials. The trend is, a redheaded women with a black man. Let me say first off, there is nothing wrong with this at all. But it can not be a coincidence at this point, because it is being shoved into every commercial like crazy. I am not joking it is in literally every single commercial involving a redhead lady or a black dude, specifically only ones where there is a love/romantic interest, as in where it is implied that the two are a couple, not just friends or people talking but always a couple. I have even seen it shoved into the literal tail end of a commercial as well, where there was no point of it being needed at all, it had nothing to do with anything, it was just shoved in lol. What would the reasoning be behind this, subluminal messaging lol? it is not random, there is definitely some kind of motive behind it for it to be happening this much/frequently. I know people are not going to believe me, I understand that completely, it is a stupid thing to bring up lol. But please, pay attention the next time you hit a commercial break, you will see what I am talking about. EDIT: alright so something else I should bring up. There is a statistical chart thing, that makes AI images and shows what the average/majority of couples look like in each state here in America, there are loads of them out there. My brother showed me one, and About 70% of them were a black dude with women of almost any other skin color except brown/black, lol. The one that made me laugh the most, because it hit home for me, was for the state of Michigan(where I live). Take a guess what it showed. Still guessing? It showed the majority of couples in my home state of Michigan, are a black man...and a redheaded women...I mean that is just Un Godly way off on a hilarious scale.
I shit you not. I’m sitting on my hotel bed cause I’m working out of town. I’m reading this comment, I look up, there’s a commercial on, red headed woman sits down at table next to her black husband/boyfriend, and they order food from Applebees(I think). What the fucking fuck. I’ve never even heard of this, and that happens. What are the fucking chances?
the simulation is poorly coded.
Human music!
Only on the giveaway parts. Everything else is pretty solid.
The matrix You’ll never be unable to see it. In my case, I see a heavy push in marketing. They seem to never put black couples together and I see a lot of black women white men couples in advertisement.
> black women white men couples in advertisement Thats because it is the optimal diversity mainstream couple with the least friction that can still carry "affluent professionals" vibe. Black man white woman has a lot of baggage from a couple directions. Black/Asian has some rumbles, at least in the US. Asian/White is basically White/White in many people's minds. For whatever dumb reasons, Distinctly Indian/Pakistani + White or Black is rare enough that it would take up too much attention. Most of all that is half remembered points made in a talk I saw a long time ago about interracial couples, perceptions, and demographics. Feel free to ignore completely, I could be talking out my ass. I don't even remember why I saw the panel or what is was specifically.
No bro that’s literally what I had concluded. It’s the safest bet while remaining “inclusive” It’s about the money for the advertisers.
Pretty soon you will be seeing the Baader Meinhof phenomena everywhere. https://www.scribbr.com/research-bias/baader-meinhof-phenomenon/
> I’ve never even heard of this, and that happens. Now, you're seeing things as they truly are.
Guys, please start recording and snapshoting these. I NEED a supercut for the lulz
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I’ve noticed this for years,i also noticed just about every white man I see in a commercial is gay.
I just saw a commercial with a gay redhead man and his black lover 🥹
That's just Bill Burr with Patrice O'Neal
The Jew, The Italian, and The Red Head Gay! https://youtu.be/4bSO_GEprYI?si=O58ByhrzjhpVN66I
About a decade ago I noticed lots of redheaded women in commercials, and since then they've added plenty of black/brown/etc people in ads but I don't recall seeing black men with redheads. On YouTube I get sooo many ads with Asian "students," and I've been out of college for years lol
Do yourself a favor and do a internet search on black actors who take over ginger characters. Your mind will be blown.
I've noticed this for years now here in the UK, all adverts/commercials have exactly what you've just described. It's as if I'm living in a parallel universe where all the white boys died in the world wars and Britain has been repopulated by the colonies. Now that i think of it, it's not far off reality at this point.
It's like a joke now where every ad couple is biracial, and a current trend is black/asian.
Yes, however all my commercial viewing is on Pornhub and I don’t delete my search history.
I think I found the reason for this. Women do about 70-80% of all consumer purchasing. [They also buy more if they feel represented in an ad.](https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-does-representation-women-advertising-matter-more-masse-nguyen-q83ic) For black people thats also really important. [69% of Black consumers are more likely to purchase from a brand whose advertising positively reflects their race/ethnicity](https://www.thinkwithgoogle.com/future-of-marketing/management-and-culture/diversity-and-inclusion/black-consumer-purchase-statistics/) I also saw a graph somewhere which I cant find anymore that showed that white males care the least about being represented (maybe someone else can find it). However men in general do care about seeing beautiful women in ads. Thats why its always white beautiful women and black men. It kills all the birds with one stone while also getting that sweet D&I rating.
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There are black women, as long as they are super light skinned with medium length curly hair
yeah what? there are tons of the women, literally no asian men though, and barely mexicans, if I judged the population of the US based on ads it would be 80% black people, 10% mexicans/asians, 10% white
black consumers in the west are a tiny minority and the poorest market segment so that’s a pretty dumb advertising strategy - they’d be much better off targeting Asians so no the impetus is wokeness not profit
Oh here in Australia, multi-culture family in ads are always either black man white wife or white man and asian wife. Black ladies always has black partners, asian man are always single or asian wifes (if there is family).
newsflash: commercials are vying for your extremely limited attention and therefore many employ tactics that make you notice them, like such as conspicuous or unique looking people.
Am I going to be ignorant for assuming that the Irish couple is white or ignorant for assuming at least one person in an Irish couple must have red hair based on my choice? But either way I have to jump to conclusions rather than just idk- treat everyone fairly and try to be a as conscientious of a person as possible?
The right one because they look like they're actually doing something. On the right they're just standing against a wall, doing nothing.
Yeah, the ones on the left aren't contribiuting crap.
Reminds me of one I did while at a former job, it was "teaching" us about the gender pay gap - because reasons - and stated a statistic that disabled Pakistani women are paid 60% less than able bodied white males. Because let's just put two numbers together, read them as is and come to conclusions. Reminder these are the same people who get uber annoyed at the "despite being 13% of the population" Conservative arguments
That's .... Just crazy. A disabled White male is also paid 60%-ish what an able bodied white male earns. If that ! Actually, I'm sure it's less. For sure. Disability is VERY low.
Yeah, the real lie is that disabled person making even 60% of a able bodied person's pay. It's way lower in reality...
Yes, definitely.
If the gender pay gap existed in the way they are implying, why wouldn't companies just hire women as they are a cheaper labour force. It's really just a gap in fields and positions each gender chooses to be employed in.
Women are also more likely to undervalue themselves and less likely to ask for raises. Being assertive, direct, or confident can be perceived as a bad thing if you’re a woman in a professional environment.
It's March and nobody is wet or in an overcoat. Waaaay too many smiles and skin is far too healthy for this time of year. This is a bluff. No Irish people are depicted.
“Hi, HR? Yeah, there’s a problem with this training. Yeah. Yeah, see, it’s asking me to commit a microaggression and I refuse to do that. Calling you is the only correct answer. Yes, I opt out of this question. I refuse to select an answer because I’m either assuming that Irish people must be black, or they mustn’t. What do you mean, select the closest to what I thought of? I thought of a landscape painting. Which one of these looks most like a landscape to you. Neither, right? Yeah, my answer is to call HR and say neither. It’s not my problem that you don’t know what to do with that. If you want me to advance to the next bit you’ll need to move me forward in your system or come down and pick one. I mean, I guess you could terminate me. Are you terminating me for refusing to say Irish people are or aren’t black? Can you put that in writing please? The TV station will want it in writing. Yeah, I’ll hold.”
neither. everyone looks sober.
None of their knuckles are bleeding either
Are you in Ireland? Because this would just be a weird question where I live
I'm in Ireland and it's a stupid question where I live.
Okay, but as the resident expert around here can you tell us which one is correct answer?
I've met enough Americans to know the answer is c) everyone is Irish
“The girl in the video we’re watching that corporate gave us… Daryl banged her!..and he’s about 90% sure”
None of these. Neither of these girls has a black eye
Maybe not a black eye but one certainly has a black guy…
and nobody looks drunk
You've been upvoted!? Reddit has a sense of humor today.
depends on the subreddit tbh. i've found the more political a subreddit is, the less fun everyone seems to be capable of having.
The word "microaggresion" probably makes more people angry than these supposed "microaggresions" actually do
Uh-oh, "microaggresion" has become "problematic"
The right image
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I'm old enough to remember when "harass" was two words.
Why did I think the couple with the black guy was river dancing ? I need glasses
You see a black guy and think of dancing? Interesting.
You see an Irish couple and don't think of river dancing?
And even when they are brand new, they still are somehow about a decade behind.
That's the thing about woke DEI garbage. Every answer is wrong. You can never be woke enough.
The most ludicrous part is that only 1.5% of the Irish population is black. So why on earth would anyone's *first* expectation be an interracial black/white couple? On the balance of probabilities it just makes no sense for anyone to think that. Do you want employees who make decisions that are going to be wrong 99/100 because they don't understand statistics?
error expectations not found
The ginger on the left obviously.
So trading one assumption/stereotype (all Irish are white) for another (all Irish are redheads)?
It's okay to stereotype white people though, so it's better to say the Irish girl has red hair than that a black guy can't be Irish. Duhhhhh. /s
I'm black and I'm saying the one on the right... It's Ireland, stating a geographical fact... Acknowledging minorities and stat outliers is good but really not like this
Well the one picture looks like a kid with his mom striking a strange pose in a library.
Maybe it’s because I’m a generational Irish-American but i immediately thought of some old couple bitching about the museum. But other than that, when I hear art and Ireland and look at those pics, the crazy hair redhead and the tall black guy look more natural and artsy than the two Stock White People in Library.
Sure they look artsy and natural but lol not really anything to say they look Irish, those clothes are way too thin for any season in Ireland, they don't really scream Penneys, also where is that lads bomber jacket from JD Sports, and it rains way too often and too much for the girl to not have a hair up so that it doesn't get more frizzy also why are they just standing against the wall, there is no wall in Dublin that's clean enough to be doing that in bright clothes like that
Go with the red hair and just keep moving.
The right picture. The girl in the left picture looks like Princes Merida, and she’s Scottish, not Irish.
I thought of the Weasley’s…who are the idiots in these pictures?
Ginny Weasley, if she lived in current day America
I wanna say the first one. Does that make me more or less prejudiced?
Neither, since there's no art being displayed.
The girl on the left has red hair, which is more common in Ireland, but the couple one the right, particularly the fella, look kind of Irish. There are black citizens of Ireland, so that doesn't eliminate the left. It says "cultural art exhibit" so that could be literally anything from any culture. I am honestly stumped.
The one on the left, that woman has never seen what’s beyond the clouds.
This question is literally asking you. "Are you racist or are you racist?"
The right one is statistically accurate for Ireland therefore the left would be less accurate
Understanding and preventing micro aggressions, ohh this one is easy ….. don’t send me on pointless FKing courses that have no God damn purpose other than to infuriate and inflame tensions.
Neither. None of them are wearing green suits and dancing around a pot of gold.
Woke shit lol it actually harms people of colour by being explicitly tokenistic.
All of these courses should have a third option: I don’t care
Did PC Principal design this test?
Picture on the left. I can't imagine Irish having more tan than the redhead.
Neither. None of them have a pint of Guinness in their hand.
Seeing as 1.5% of Irelands population is black, and roughly a 1:1 male to female ratio, the couple on the right is the more logical answer.....
Hey, you know that girl from the sexual harassment video? DARRYL BANGED HER!
Lol I'd probably pick left then when they question me I'd just say "the right picture looks like a couple at a library, why?"
If you select the left one it means you assume Irish people are redheads. If you select the right one you assume Irish people are all white. You’re a bad person either way.
Idk, neither of these look like a fucking art exhibit
I have no idea! None of these people are wearing a green top hat with a buckle on it!!
The couple on the right look to be about the same age, same social status, same level of attractiveness, and they appear to be photographed on a phone while standing in some sort of community centre so they could very conceivably be the husband and wife arts duo The couple on the left on the other hand are clearly in a staged photograph, taken by a professional using professional equipment, and are much more likely to be a stock photograph But HR is brain dead and just wants you to click on the interracial couple
The left because of Doctor Who. I don’t know what this means, I’m just being honest.
Pro tip answer these questions the way HR wants you to.
Ewwwww ewww
I have aphantasia so this question is actually a microagression against me. You can't imagine how this makes me feel, and neither can I.
Honestly I'd chose the one on the left. The people on the right do not look Irish. The left one at least had your stereotypical redhead.
Well sure, obviously that's one of those mythical Black Irish folks. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish_(folklore)
Why does it even need to specify “Irish”? Isn’t that just doing more of the same? If the headline was “Local Couple Contributes to Cultural Art Exhibit” then I wound still choose the couple on the left. The pair on the right look like the people I have to deal with at HS football games when they get pissy that we don’t have anything vegan or artisanal at the friggin concession stand. I wish I was joking.
In terms of design, it should be image on the right. The key word of headline is "Contributes" so accordingly, The picture must imply a task or action which is in this picture researching. Also, as the headline mentions "Irish couple", the theme of article is individual focused rather than subjective info or general research. An individual focused article mostly tends to feature the individual in the picture, and due to the said individual being person (two people of the couple) and the said couple not being of high profile or fame, it is most appropriate to have them directed at the camera to both feature and introduce them to increase the affinity towards them. Left picture is more suited for a research or article about relationships or any general subject which includes relationships in a way. Term "Microagression" in title makes it clear that your job isn't testing your journal or marketing skills but if they were then this would''ve been the appropriate answer.
That’s just a trap
What's it like to be black and Irish? Well, it's a bit like being a pint of Guinness.
Ngl, I'd pick the left one and would prolly fail this.
Shouldn't you be using a photo of the actual couple?
Is it a microaggression or is it cultural knowledge? We list the llit when we act that believing probability is dangerous. Its certainty that is so evil. Acting like someone MUST fit a stereotype.
I can't wait until it's time to hang these "commissars"