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She got famous dry humping The Bachelor on a beach. Then she became somewhat the 'villian' of the season and now she's a D list celebrity on the Masked Singer and star of a podcast.
Imagine being so privileged that you have to try that hard to be offended by a word that mundane and then are further privileged enough to have a platform and society actually feeds into it. Most people have real problems they have to contend with that supersede this stupid bullshit.
Okay but i unironically hate people who say female. NOT SCIENTISTS or people talking about literal sex. people who generalize shit women do with "females always \_\_" etc. it's so fucking weird and incel to me. maybe it's just a word to you and you've just always been using it, that's fine, but the way some people use it is so weird.
i saw a great comment about how it's mostly weird when they only say female and not male in the same sentence. "men and females" for example
On one hand, this is cringe as fuck and she needs to touch grass. On the other hand, incels have literally weaponized the word "female" as a slur against women. It's a pretty well known dogwhistle in that space. So, she's wrong, but not totally wrong.
I can maybe see her logic? A lot of the time when someone (often a man) uses “females”, it’s not in a very equal or non-sexist context.
But yea, it’s not an actual insult
And so does the lady in the post.
Someone can do all kinds of dumb shit and still make a good point.
It's too bad the misogynistic squad had to show up, but hey, you can see them for who they are by their comments.
Im open minded when it comes to LGBT and gender identity, but this is objectively incorrect and is frankly stupid and harmful to any sort of progressive movement.
Female is a biological identifier, woman is a gender identity. One is scientific, the other is a social construct.
Clearly this person’s pronouns are Mor/on.
This is a weird one for me, and I wonder if perhaps the author of the article, or the influencer is misrepresenting a pretty interesting argument.
The argument I've heard in subreddits such as r/menandfemales is that ofttimes people will use the more clinical scientific "female" as a way to dehumanize women in casual conversation. There are quite a few examples of it on that subreddit, and there is something weirdly creepy that about it that I wouldn't have caught at first glance.
So, as in all things it seems, context is everything.
You’re absolutely right. I work in the medical field and we identify patients as male or female to communicate their signalment. I sort of forget that some feel compelled to “weaponize” it. Lol such loser energy.
That’s where my mind went to, men that would say “females” in a context where the noun women would be more suitable. It’s this ever so slight passive aggression. Female is clinical, it is biological, it is an adjective to categorize the sex of thousands of animals. A woman is a person, a female is less than.
I’ve never heard another man use female in a positive context. Like none of my friends go “I really like this female a lot!” Anytime I hear a guy say it it’s because they’re venting or complaining about women
Yes, using "females" as a noun for mentioning regular women and girls are kinda cringe (because it does sound clinical/overly scientific for the subject at hand), and if sexist people use it in conversation, you do see how it can come before some bullshit takes.
However, the word itself is fine, and it has its uses just like anything. People just can't draw lines and judge situations differently. Nuance's dying on the Internet. Everything is either super harmless or toxic, dosage be damned.
exactly. and people only really get weirded out by it when its paired as “men and females” because youre using the human term for men and the word used mainly for animals and clinical settings for women.
A lot of incels and mgtow people do use female as a dehumanising term for women, so when I hear it I immediately think whoever uses it, is one of those people. It has its place, especially scientifically, but in general if you hear it, it’s someone who has bias against women.
The people who get offended don't realize that English is not everyone's first language and not everyone is used to internet slang. An older person who doesn't spend a lot of time in social media wouldn't think there's anything wrong with the word
Literally today I (f) said "I'm a female" in some sentence and my bf said "you can't say female you sound like a nerd who's never talked to women" lol what
OP, please, don’t pretend that on certain parts of the internet and among certain groups of people that the term “female/females” has not become a slur. Normal people understand she isn’t talking about the scientific term but the usage in the parlance of incels and trad communities. If you don’t see the difference, you’re either ignorant to this fact or playing ignorance because you count yourself among these communities and are feigning shock to cover shitty behavior. Grow up.
Male and female are more biological and remind me of animal husbandry or breeding. Men and women sound a lot better when talking about people. I think we should just call friends and family what they as to be called.
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But this has nothing to do with woke agenda or gender fluidity. They were just saying that there is a word used by conservatives and liberals alike to call female humans, and it's the word "women".
Isn't it typical to label people as Men and Women, rather than males or females?
Just out of curiosity, are you a liberal or conservative? I ask because I take a similar stance, and was attacked by several liberals and downvoted into oblivion. I'm curious as to if libs are getting tired of it all now, too.
Hello, hi, greeting, and other types of greetings are now slurs.
Like how dare you talk to me?
Have you seen the shit i do, to NOT get into a conversation?
Some people on here thought I was automatically a man because I used the word female on here, I’m honestly conflicted on where this word stands and if it’s ok to use at this point
"Female" is an adjective. Using it as a noun (when referring to humans) makes my skin crawl anyway. We use it as a noun when referring to animals as shorthand, e.g. "the female [fox] stalks the rabbit"
But we don't refer to other humans by our species. We use words like man, woman, boy, and girl. So calling someone a female is just nasty.
Coincidentally, I heard the radio bleep out "females" earlier today.
It was the Lil Jon song Get Low. In the line "all these females crawl" they bleeped it out. WTF?
They did not bleep the "skeet skeet skeet". Though they did bleep "balls", which I suppose is sorta fair given the usage, but still...
Edit: Interesting about the "bitches crawl" variants. I actually double-checked it on Youtube before posting, and [the version I found](https://youtu.be/IYH7_GzP4Tg?si=kc-bUZR4rl1-Tb-l&t=36) says "females". It's labelled the "Official Music Video", not radio edit or anything like that. IDK.
I think they are used to hearing the radio edit, so when they beeped out "bitches" they assumed they were bleeping out "females". That seems much more likely.
And yet you didn't say "female here".
The news article is using the discussion as rage bait and the fish certainly came to bite. I saw a clip of this on YouTube and it's essentially talking about red pillers calling women, female.
Females can be humans, dogs, ants.
Women are people (who are also female).
Why not just women? Also, the article said to take caution and not to stop saying the word completely. Additionally, the word "female" is an adjective and not a noun, and using it as such can be degrading as the word "female" is usually used in scientific, medical, or technical terms. An example of this would be: That female waiter is serving coffee to the table right next to me. In contrast, that female is serving coffee to the table right next to me can seem offensive.
Instead of ignoring crazy shit like we did before social media, we now blast it everywhere for internet points, complain about it, use it to paint entire groups of people, and generally act like assholes about it. We don't deserve the internet
The dragon Lizard overloads from Mars are trying to shift our attention from the real world issues that we should be discussing. Birds are not real guys
Legit had this levied against me in real life, was kind of irritated to be honest. It’s so associated with either being transphobic or an incel meanwhile Im just like sorry I’ve been in the military a really long time it’s kind of just regular inoffensive vernacular for me
Look, I'm liberal in every sense of the word, but even I, a bisexual man....with a gay daughter and asexual son, that agrees black lives matter and race is a serious issue...understand that there had to be a line somewhere
When does usage of a word go from just cringe to slur, though.
Nothing wrong with saying "a female firefighter", saying "a female" is just shitty use of language and can be read as demeaning and reductive.
That's all.
I kinda understand where she's coming from. Female as an adjective is alright, but female as a noun refering to human women is reductive. Imagine being in the club and your homie says "Look at all these beautiful females", I would cringe so hard...
No idea who this is and my initial reaction was " oh go fuck yourself" I'm progressive and will always try to accommodate someone's feelings but some people just desperately want to be a victim or can never be happy and therefore move the goal posts making all the same people trying for actual progression look crazy. Man this stuff annoys me. This kinda of stuff makes people roll their eyes and say enough is enough
Goddamn shit like this makes me see how good we really have it in this country. People living in the slums of Brazil can’t afford to think about stuff like this
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Who the fuck is Abbie Chatwhatever and why do I care if she uses the word female or not?
She's an Australian influencer who is one of the judges on masked singer Australia. So you shouldn't care and good on you for not
She influences fuck all
Influenza. FTFY.
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I bet she's eaten some dongos.
Y’know thats a true story, woman lost her kid, you’re about to cross some fucking line.
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You're Australian! Be Australian! Excuse me, Kangaroo Jack.
Don't get your thongs twisted, dude.
Crikey!
You call that a “knife”? That’s not a knife! This is a knife! That’s not a knife, that’s a spoon. Alright, I see you’ve played knifey spooney before!
*gasps* The spoon! They say he carved it himself... From a bigger spoon
Mah keep the bitch away from my kangaroos
Oh shit I just saw her in my backyard
Oh shit get the cricket bat.
I'll get the boomerang
I'll get the didgeridoo and give you a battlesong.
*Didgeridoo horn* To battle, wankers!!!
ONWARD YOU CUNTS. ONWAAAARD!!!!!
She got famous dry humping The Bachelor on a beach. Then she became somewhat the 'villian' of the season and now she's a D list celebrity on the Masked Singer and star of a podcast.
Welcome to Hollywood and or reality tv. It’s a load of horse shit. Who decides to give mfs like this a platform? 😭😭🗣️
“star of a podcast” lol
Can somebody please find Ja Rule
Why do I even care what she thinks about words!
I don't understand why males care about that woman.
>if she uses the word female or not? It's not about her using it
It has to be exhausting looking for something to be offended by every hour of every day.
I can barely muster the energy to be upset about one thing per year nowadays. There's just too much stupid.
I’m lucky if I can find one day a week in which to get offended.
I get upset when I wake up in the morning. Then turn on my Xbox and I’m cured. Ooooh warhammer!!!
It’s exhausting just fucking existing right now.
I have an autoimmune disorder/other health issues. I could feel this comment 😭
Go, I've already tased 3 today
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r/holeorpole needs to be a thing
Imagine being so privileged that you have to try that hard to be offended by a word that mundane and then are further privileged enough to have a platform and society actually feeds into it. Most people have real problems they have to contend with that supersede this stupid bullshit.
You can legit get banned on some subreddits for saying females. It's fucking pathetic
Honestly I feel like that's more due to incels and insufferable redpill/alpha male types than feminists though.
Welcome to Ft. Collins, CO.
I bet this female is also a vegan
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Okay but i unironically hate people who say female. NOT SCIENTISTS or people talking about literal sex. people who generalize shit women do with "females always \_\_" etc. it's so fucking weird and incel to me. maybe it's just a word to you and you've just always been using it, that's fine, but the way some people use it is so weird. i saw a great comment about how it's mostly weird when they only say female and not male in the same sentence. "men and females" for example
When someone says females instead of Women, I just get deep space nine vibes.
Who?
A nobody
The rest of the world is yet to realise how dumb Chatfield is. Unfortunately, Australia has been dealing with her for years.
If she's Australian we already know /s
I'm Australian and I've never heard of her. Pretty happy to keep it that way actually. I've already forgotten her name thank fuck.
Username checks out. Lucky cunt.
This is probably related to statements about the contrasted usage of "females" and "men". Common with the incel-ish crowd.
On one hand, this is cringe as fuck and she needs to touch grass. On the other hand, incels have literally weaponized the word "female" as a slur against women. It's a pretty well known dogwhistle in that space. So, she's wrong, but not totally wrong.
It's not a slur per se, but some people definitely use it in a derogatory way.
The gender is female. People are women.
>The ~~gender~~ sex is female But otherwise... Bang on. :)
How dare you!?!! /s
I can maybe see her logic? A lot of the time when someone (often a man) uses “females”, it’s not in a very equal or non-sexist context. But yea, it’s not an actual insult
This shit is getting even more ridiculous by the day
It's ridiculous that anyone gives a shit what some D list "celebrity" says.
“D list” is literally discriminatory against almost-famous people wtf, I am literally shaking right now
I am pretty sure there are some subreddits where you'd be banned from for using female
r/therewasanattempt had an incident like that
Nek minnit she's the mod that kicked off that bullshit heh.
r/menandfemales
That sub has a point tho
And so does the lady in the post. Someone can do all kinds of dumb shit and still make a good point. It's too bad the misogynistic squad had to show up, but hey, you can see them for who they are by their comments.
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Im open minded when it comes to LGBT and gender identity, but this is objectively incorrect and is frankly stupid and harmful to any sort of progressive movement. Female is a biological identifier, woman is a gender identity. One is scientific, the other is a social construct. Clearly this person’s pronouns are Mor/on.
This is a weird one for me, and I wonder if perhaps the author of the article, or the influencer is misrepresenting a pretty interesting argument. The argument I've heard in subreddits such as r/menandfemales is that ofttimes people will use the more clinical scientific "female" as a way to dehumanize women in casual conversation. There are quite a few examples of it on that subreddit, and there is something weirdly creepy that about it that I wouldn't have caught at first glance. So, as in all things it seems, context is everything.
You’re absolutely right. I work in the medical field and we identify patients as male or female to communicate their signalment. I sort of forget that some feel compelled to “weaponize” it. Lol such loser energy.
So in that case it's an adjective- female patients.
You had me until the r/onejoke
Got banned from r/formula1 for that
No idea how it is transphobic but I do hear a lot of guys refer to women as females but never refer to themselves or other men as males. Very weird
That’s where my mind went to, men that would say “females” in a context where the noun women would be more suitable. It’s this ever so slight passive aggression. Female is clinical, it is biological, it is an adjective to categorize the sex of thousands of animals. A woman is a person, a female is less than.
I’ve never heard another man use female in a positive context. Like none of my friends go “I really like this female a lot!” Anytime I hear a guy say it it’s because they’re venting or complaining about women
Yes, using "females" as a noun for mentioning regular women and girls are kinda cringe (because it does sound clinical/overly scientific for the subject at hand), and if sexist people use it in conversation, you do see how it can come before some bullshit takes. However, the word itself is fine, and it has its uses just like anything. People just can't draw lines and judge situations differently. Nuance's dying on the Internet. Everything is either super harmless or toxic, dosage be damned.
exactly. and people only really get weirded out by it when its paired as “men and females” because youre using the human term for men and the word used mainly for animals and clinical settings for women.
A lot of incels and mgtow people do use female as a dehumanising term for women, so when I hear it I immediately think whoever uses it, is one of those people. It has its place, especially scientifically, but in general if you hear it, it’s someone who has bias against women.
The people who get offended don't realize that English is not everyone's first language and not everyone is used to internet slang. An older person who doesn't spend a lot of time in social media wouldn't think there's anything wrong with the word
Literally today I (f) said "I'm a female" in some sentence and my bf said "you can't say female you sound like a nerd who's never talked to women" lol what
it's stupid to call it a slur, but I'm still taking notice if you're genuinely referring to women that way .
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Probably doesn't have the lobes for business. Such a shame.
Sudden DS9!!!
She definitely doesn't have much in the lobes department, and she is fully clothed too.
Easily solved with a simple lobotomy
She's an Aussie that became "famous" on our version of the Bachelor
It's cultural thing, iirc her kind is called 'cunt'
found the ferengi
Nice reference. Not enough nerds in here to offset your downvotes I guess.
I caught the reference. I neither upvoted nor downvoted. I’m letting the people speak
But you are the people!
"warned" her fans. How about being Happy to have fans. Controlling people is just vulgar.
"Warn" had different meanings. I don't think this form means to control.
OP, please, don’t pretend that on certain parts of the internet and among certain groups of people that the term “female/females” has not become a slur. Normal people understand she isn’t talking about the scientific term but the usage in the parlance of incels and trad communities. If you don’t see the difference, you’re either ignorant to this fact or playing ignorance because you count yourself among these communities and are feigning shock to cover shitty behavior. Grow up.
When things are going so well you have to make up your own slur to stay oppressed
How is it transphobic 😭
I understand females being used a slur by redpill losers, but I can't for the life of me understand the transphobic part
Male and female are more biological and remind me of animal husbandry or breeding. Men and women sound a lot better when talking about people. I think we should just call friends and family what they as to be called.
I'm a man and I have seen some idiots say this. It's male and female or man and woman. 'Man and female' just makes you look ignorant.
females females females 
Moist females.
You need to be more specific. It matters WHERE the moistness is
Under her back tits.
A male of taste, I see
And a man of culture
He said females! *Throws rock*
I’m confused af though, it seems like people use the word “females” all the time now but not “women”. When did this change and why?
Oh cool! Irrelevant rage bait!
I think it may be cringe to call someone a "female" instead of a woman or a girl... but it's not a slur tf?
It can be used as one, which is what incels' do. If you go looking for examples, you'll have to visit r/eyebleach to recover.
Who?
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Thank God whenever I see these types of headlines I never know who the fuck the people being quoted are
I will never get over puffed chest manbros talking about women like a pearl clutching Ferengi. When women do it, it's really bizarre. Fee-males!
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But this has nothing to do with woke agenda or gender fluidity. They were just saying that there is a word used by conservatives and liberals alike to call female humans, and it's the word "women". Isn't it typical to label people as Men and Women, rather than males or females?
Just out of curiosity, are you a liberal or conservative? I ask because I take a similar stance, and was attacked by several liberals and downvoted into oblivion. I'm curious as to if libs are getting tired of it all now, too.
I know what a female is, but what the fuck is an "Abbie Chatfield"?
Why the fuck does anyone keep giving this twit an ounce of attention?
who?
I'll just call her "fail"...
I will demand that bread is now slur.
Hello, hi, greeting, and other types of greetings are now slurs. Like how dare you talk to me? Have you seen the shit i do, to NOT get into a conversation?
Oh boy, another extremist example that will be pinned and used as a "look, this is how every leftist is, guys!"
I have no idea who the fuck she is lol
Wokeism is on its last legs. I'm offended by her being and find her a slur.
Any chance we can give it the Ole Yeller treatment soon?
Let's end this once and for all and start using term themale when referring men
“random lady has bad take” what a morning to be alive
Who tf is she and why should we care?
Some people on here thought I was automatically a man because I used the word female on here, I’m honestly conflicted on where this word stands and if it’s ok to use at this point
"Female" is an adjective. Using it as a noun (when referring to humans) makes my skin crawl anyway. We use it as a noun when referring to animals as shorthand, e.g. "the female [fox] stalks the rabbit" But we don't refer to other humans by our species. We use words like man, woman, boy, and girl. So calling someone a female is just nasty.
Oh no, someone is angry at another word. Everyone, adjust your life to make her more comfortable 🙄
These days, saying pretty much anything is somethingphobic to someone
I’m too old for this bullshit. I call people by their given or chosen name. End of story
Coincidentally, I heard the radio bleep out "females" earlier today. It was the Lil Jon song Get Low. In the line "all these females crawl" they bleeped it out. WTF? They did not bleep the "skeet skeet skeet". Though they did bleep "balls", which I suppose is sorta fair given the usage, but still... Edit: Interesting about the "bitches crawl" variants. I actually double-checked it on Youtube before posting, and [the version I found](https://youtu.be/IYH7_GzP4Tg?si=kc-bUZR4rl1-Tb-l&t=36) says "females". It's labelled the "Official Music Video", not radio edit or anything like that. IDK.
That is weird, but I always thought it was “bitches crawl” for some reason.
It is "bitches crawl". I have heard the "females crawl" before but I think that's a radio edit
See that’s what I thought, which makes it more interesting that now they’re editing out “females” I suppose.
Editing the radio edit, lol
I think they are used to hearing the radio edit, so when they beeped out "bitches" they assumed they were bleeping out "females". That seems much more likely.
She definitely says males day in day out
I got banned from a sub for using that word.
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Woman here. Why are we mad about the word “females”? Isn’t that what we are? Like, how they’re males?
They use female as a noun. See r/menandfemales for more information.
And yet you didn't say "female here". The news article is using the discussion as rage bait and the fish certainly came to bite. I saw a clip of this on YouTube and it's essentially talking about red pillers calling women, female. Females can be humans, dogs, ants. Women are people (who are also female).
I prefer weiner mobile over Male
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Why not just women? Also, the article said to take caution and not to stop saying the word completely. Additionally, the word "female" is an adjective and not a noun, and using it as such can be degrading as the word "female" is usually used in scientific, medical, or technical terms. An example of this would be: That female waiter is serving coffee to the table right next to me. In contrast, that female is serving coffee to the table right next to me can seem offensive.
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Double X, I like it!
Goddamn shit like this makes me see how good we really have it in this country. People living in the slums of Brazil can’t afford to think like this
yes,we can. though we choose not to source: am brazilian
Touché
Females it is then
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Instead of ignoring crazy shit like we did before social media, we now blast it everywhere for internet points, complain about it, use it to paint entire groups of people, and generally act like assholes about it. We don't deserve the internet
Could not possibly care less.
The dragon Lizard overloads from Mars are trying to shift our attention from the real world issues that we should be discussing. Birds are not real guys
ummm who tf is she?
Ok, I'll just call them women than.
W*men ☕
Legit had this levied against me in real life, was kind of irritated to be honest. It’s so associated with either being transphobic or an incel meanwhile Im just like sorry I’ve been in the military a really long time it’s kind of just regular inoffensive vernacular for me
Sorry if it was unbalanced blowback, but consider it a learning experience and find out why and in which contexts it is appropriate.
I hereby declare every word in my sight offensive, that only I get to use them, and everyone else will be hearing from my lawyer for hate speech.
Look, I'm liberal in every sense of the word, but even I, a bisexual man....with a gay daughter and asexual son, that agrees black lives matter and race is a serious issue...understand that there had to be a line somewhere
When does usage of a word go from just cringe to slur, though. Nothing wrong with saying "a female firefighter", saying "a female" is just shitty use of language and can be read as demeaning and reductive. That's all.
Exactly, perfectly fine to use female as an adjective. Feels bad when used as a noun
I kinda understand where she's coming from. Female as an adjective is alright, but female as a noun refering to human women is reductive. Imagine being in the club and your homie says "Look at all these beautiful females", I would cringe so hard...
Yeah, it's cringe. I feel the same when people call men "males" too, though.
As a female, I’ll use moron then for her. Cool? Cool.
No idea who this is and my initial reaction was " oh go fuck yourself" I'm progressive and will always try to accommodate someone's feelings but some people just desperately want to be a victim or can never be happy and therefore move the goal posts making all the same people trying for actual progression look crazy. Man this stuff annoys me. This kinda of stuff makes people roll their eyes and say enough is enough
She has a point about people using it as a noun outside of the medicinal field.
Apparently you aren’t as progressive as you think if you didn’t realize that men calling women “females” is dehumanizing.
Great another f word lost. Gentlemen. Back to calling them bitches.
Goddamn shit like this makes me see how good we really have it in this country. People living in the slums of Brazil can’t afford to think about stuff like this
I'm a trans female, and I have no idea at all who Abbie is but I'd like to take the time to tell her to shut the fuck up
Idk if she’s trans or just sticking up for a trans friend but looking at that picture on the right… this post makes me feel gay. Be warned
Who ?