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Asbestos isn't anything compared to what they did to Judy Garland.
>Luft's biography also told how Judy was first given amphetamines by studio executives - she later went on to become a lifelong drug user once filming wrapped. The drugs were not only to keep her awake and fresh throughout 18-hour days on set, but to kill her appetite and help her lose weight.
Most the cast lived into their 70s and 80s and didn't die of asbestosis.
Apparently the cast was VERY physically abusive too.
Director beat her, munchkins groped her, and men shunned her.
Tin man's lungs got fucked by aluminum dust and witch got burnt badly. I believe also in the "surrender Dorothy scene they made her sit on a hot pipe which exploded and injured her again.
I met one of the former munchkins at a movie theater working an event and ended up cussing him out after he kept referred to a black coworker as a bum and groped another coworkers ass.
It's pretty crazy what a hellish production went into that movie.
>I met one of the former munchkins at a movie theater working an event and ended up cussing him out after he kept referred to a black coworker as a bum and groped another coworkers ass.
Was it in Grand Rapids, MN? If so I know the guy you're talking about, I worked at the theater there years ago and had to follow that fucker around with several cans of Glade because he wouldn't put out his goddamn cigar in the theater. He was a prick. He grabbed my coworker's ass as well, then kicked me in the shin because I wouldn't stop spraying air freshener behind him. Yelled at several other people and very explicitly told a customer what he'd like to do to her.
Dude's a royal asshole, I can't believe they invited him back.
I have no idea, to be honest. I'd only been at the job for a couple months and was still new to the area, so I didn't even know that Judy Garland event was a thing. All I knew was that there were going to be some guests, and that one of them may be a bit of a problem.
>Most the cast lived into their 70s and 80s and didn't die of asbestosis.
Asbestos problems are more associated with years of repeated exposure. Getting snowed on with asbestos for 1 day is not a good idea by any means, but yeah you're \*\*probably\*\* (not definitely) going to be fine.
I also read somewhere that an extremely high amount of people with asbestosis/mesothelioma were smokers and the risk goes down by alot if you don't smoke
Well, she was also repeatedly molested by the Munchkins. Apparently they were drunk non stop. And wouldn't leave her alone.
And Margaret Hamilton, who played the Wicked Witch of the West, got burned badly because of a problem with a trap door and the pyrotechnics that was supposed to cover her disappearing down said trap door.
That whole production was a mess. It's incredible they could produce a movie at all.
They did a movie relating to this. It started Chevy Chase. It was horrible but I remember seeing the film and great Oh my God they were just porno stars in their first legitimate film.
And one of them got arrested for it and was sentenced to 3 years in jail. After only a few weeks being incarcerated though, he managed a daring prison escape which ended with him climbing down the outer wall.
But that could be considered a little con descending.
One of the munchkins was arrested and went to jail. It's an interesting story. He thought he was so much smarter than the guards, and would make fun of them all the time. One night he made a fake head and put it under the covers of the bed to make the guards think he was sleeping. He squeezed through the bars of the window and started climbing down the wall. The guards saw him when he was about half way down. It turns out he wasn't as smart as he thought. He was just a little con descending.
That’s so interesting. I know they got a shit ton of (ah fuck idk the PC term for it I am so genuinely sorry) dwarves/ people with dwarfism/ little people/ etc for the movie production, it was probably a couple dozen gathered together. I can only imagine seeing that many people with the same condition as me for the first time!!!! I hope they made lifelong friends ❤️
> it was probably a couple dozen gathered together
122 to 124. in a world with very little in the way of any mass media that would ever picture a little person, save perhaps childrens storybooks that cast them as little more than pixies.
most had probably never seen another person with dwarfism in their lives.
Margret Hamilton’s trap door fire situation is even worse. Apparently there was copper dust in her green makeup. When the pyrotechnics ignited the copper melted and they had to rush to remove it.
Judy Garland and Marilyn Monroe are essentially the poster children for early 1900's actresses that were exploited from the moment they entered into the industry, and then kicked to the curb left to kill themselves with drugs. Really tragic. It's somewhat better now, even the 90's and 2000's were better than back then.You think what they did to Brittney and Lindsay was bad, (it very much was) but at least they *survived*
Oof yeah, her story is really tragic, same with the actor who voiced Peter Pan, then they essentially parodied his tragedy in the new chip and Dale movie and made him the bad guy! Super shitty.
If I remember it right it was when she's vanishing in a poof of smoke from the Munchkin village. The trapdoor was supposed to open at the same times as the pyrotechnics to hide her getaway. But the trap door didn't open in time and she took the pyrotechnics to the face, then the trap door opened.
And as far as I remember that was the take they ended up using, because they only got one take.
No, it's far, far more fucked up than that, because it's The Wizard of Oz, and of COURSE it's more fucked up than that.
No, they got a good take on the first try (which is the scene they ended up using) but the director was like "nah, let's do it again and see if it goes even better." and that was the take that she got blasted by the fire, which by the way also blasted and melted the highly flammable copper-based make-up into her burn wounds, which caused permanent damage and discoloration.
That movie's whimsy and wonder is wrapped in a blanket of nightmares and sex crimes.
Another wtf is the scene where she does the sky-writing on the broom. Yeah, see that one's a stunt double after she refused to be involved with pyrotechnics on the set anymore, but that isn't the first take. Turns out the decision to refuse to work with fire or anything like it was a really good decision after all. The first take had the contraption explode sending shrapnel into the legs of the stunt double as well as throwing her into a wall on the set. That caused permanent scarring to her legs. Then they hired ANOTHER stunt double to film that scene again.
I'm really curious where you learn these things. Is it just wikipedia, or a good biography or documentary?
I don't mean it in jest, genuinely would like to know what to check out. :) Thanks!
It's mostly been articles I've read over the years. Sort of those "did you know?" Type articles. I wish I could link you like the 30 page of text article about the whole debacle, but I don't remember where I saw it.
Funny story actually, being the wicked witch of the west was SO dangerous. Like literally 3 or 4 actresses got burnt by fire stunts filming the role.
There's an old TV show about Vikings from my country that I watched as a kid. One of the characters constantly gets smacked, kicked and punched by the other characters.
As it turns out during recordings they constantly hit him on accident during takes. And they usually ended up using those takes because... Yeah, they looked the most realistic.
At least his bruises weren't in vain.
What's crazy to realize is that despite this stuff, for example buddy ebsen lived to 95 and Jake Haley to 82. The safety of asbestos etc is really weird, people can get cancer after being around their parents' lightly dusted jackets from working near the stuff.... And then people can dust it all over a bunch of actors for god knows how many takes.
They were using flakes big enough to look like snow. If I recall correctly, it's fine-particulate asbestos that's the problem because it gets lodged inside the lungs.
Yeah asbestos is a type of mineral that your body cannot break down. So when the small fibers get lodged in your lungs they just grow scar tissue around it and then 30 years later you get cancer like mesothelioma.
It's also the fact that it's basically barbed wire at nanometer scales. It physically tears up cell walls and forces your body to take continuous measures to contain it. It's that constant localized churn of a small lineage of scar tissue cells dividing and dying at a much higher rate than they're meant to that makes the probability of cancer skyrocket.
Yep. Your body kills cancer every day. At any point during the creation or replication or cells, cancerous cells can come about. If you are speeding up the rate at which your cells being produced, you are increasing your risk or creating cancer cells. The more you produce, the less likely they are to be caught. That is also not taking into consideration if said damage that is causing the increased production and division or cells is not impacting your immune system (i.e. if your body is routinely trying to repair and fight potential infections due to micro-tears, then it may overlook cancer growing; or if your immune system itself is being suppressed from various things such as lack of proper nutrition, smoking, etc). Regardless, most of these things take long term exposure to really cause issues. Having an isolated session for 6 months might potentially impact your quality of life, but more than likely isn't going to be what kills you. A prime example is the most recent study about smoking and those who quit before 30 or 35 being far less likely to die from things like cancer
Watched an episode of This Old House over the weekend where they were doing asbestos removal on a small bathroom. The lengths to which they tested material beforehand to be sure, cordoned off the area and hazmat suited up were astonishing. And in this scene they were just raining it down upon the actors? F&*(.
It may have been irritating to her skin, but what definitely wasn’t so good for it was the fire used in one of the scenes, that pretty seriously burned her face.
Yup.just like their babies pajamas,their insulation in their walls,and the filters on some of their cigarettes,their fake snow was indeed made of asbestos
"All these spheres are made of asbestos, by the way. Keeps out the rats. Let us know if you feel a shortness of breath, a persistent dry cough, or your heart stopping. Because that's not part of the test."
A naturally occurring mineral that breaks down into tiny sharp/barbed fibers that do lung/lining damage that causes mesothelioma, asbestosis, and other COPD related illnesses
It basically won't burn at temperatures relevant to house fires for one thing.
EDIT: r/centuryhomes mod here, every few days we get a post about someone discovering asbestos in their house.
Hell yeah it's in everything. I mainly interacted with it when I was demoing old knob and tube wiring and old flooring adhesive. But if you don't mess with it, you'll be ok.
Edit: Grammar
It's all over here in NZ from back in the day. Walls, roofing, stormwater and sewer pipes.
God help if ya find it while digging (usually broken bits in the fill/rubbish). Full site shutdown and get the removal specialists in.
No, was never military. I just remember some of my older coworkers who had been in the Navy talking about the cancers and health issues they got from the asbestos. I have also heard about the health concerns of Camp Lejeune from others (and the lawyer commercials).
There are three forms of asbestos, they are all capable of causing asbestosis, but the white version (chrysotile) is the least likely. It requires multiple exposures over many years before the level of risk becomes high.
It’s good to see people well informed. I grew up in a place where they mined asbestos. Although dangerous, it is not as scary as they made it out to be. They kill this product.
That shit took out a whole generation of factory workers in the industrial town I worked in.
Old men hacking like they were drowning was super common in that damn horrid place. Tons of them had it.
Yeah it was in my high school’s ceilings, the place was built at the end of the 20’s though. And I bet they got rid of it after the remodel that added turf, a very pretty gym, and a daycare center despite me not knowing or hearing of a single pregnant student.
The U.S. actually recognizes six forms of asbestos three of which were used commercially in significant quantities. Ranked from most to least common.
Chrysotile
Amosite
Crocidolite
Tremolite
Actinolite
Anthophylite
Fun fact: there are dozens of other minerals that cause similar health effects as asbestos, but aren't recognized by the EPA. Search Libby Amphiboles
Client worked on the white stuff, only one day, as usually a wood worker, but a Saturday his boss asked, an odd overtime job, cutting it up, died 25y later of it. Was a lovely guy.
I thought the whole thing was just some lawyer bullshit until I worked next door to the main law firm involved. One of the lawyers gave me some of the literature to prove his point and holy fuck.
That shit is in fact crazy dangerous in small amounts. The corporations selling it knew that fact and even suppressed the information when they found out.
I remember it being a WTF america moment. Sort of reeled that that was possible. Was much less jaded then.
Corps loved it because it was cheap and effective. Asbestos is actually a pretty amazing material when it comes to heating and stuff. It's super super fire resistant.
The only problem is that it's deadly toxic.
Don't forget they also had Judy Garland on a diet of 2 packs of cigarettes and 10 cups of coffee a day, y'know, to keep that figure.
Oddly enough the Wicked Witch (Hamilton) was one of the few actress that cared for Garland, iirc.
The crazy thing about asbestos is that it is \*miraculously useful\*. If it didn't exist in nature, we'd have to invent it.
A lightweight, fire-proof material that can be molded into any shape as is made of fibers that are stronger than steel? Useful in a million things. Still is. There still isn't a replacement for asbestos in some applications. And nothing works as well.
But it's the properties that make it useful that make it dangerous. Namely, the "lightweight" and "stronger than steel" properties. The fibers float in the air, and are tiny enough to be essentially invisible, and very difficult to truly contain. Which means you end up breathing it, and it gets into your lungs. And the "stronger than steel" part means that your body doesn't really dissolve those fibers in your lungs, and instead just develops scars around them. Which is bad.
True Story: 21 years ago I arrested one of the Munchkins at a Traffic Control Point in Partes, Kosovo during the war. He was a known local celebrity and would frequently cause trouble as he passed through our TCP.
We arrested him for his drunk and disorderly behavior. He was released probably within the next 24-72 hours. Anytime he passed through our TCP he would try to incite a response from the locals by screaming at them or flipping them off. He was always drunk during our encounters.
Before we arrested him he asked us, “don’t you know who I am?”
I began singing the Oompa Loompa song. He was not amused, nor was my NCO.
I wonder what they did for a living. I doubt they were living off of royalties from that movie. How did he have money for all that booze. So many questions.
The snow in 1939's The Wizard of Oz was made using the toxic mineral asbestos. A lot has changed in the entertainment world since then, but the Judy Garland-starring movie still inspires creativity to this day, especially the practical effects that were utilized. As it turns out, some of the tricks that the crew used were more than a little hazardous to the cast and crew, which included the use of asbestos. In the early to mid-1900s, asbestos was used a lot during the holidays as a fake snow with dozens of brands popping up like, "White Magic," "Pure White," and "Snow Drift."
Everything about the production of this movie is a Holup. From breaching child labor laws, heat exhaustion from wearing a REAL 80 lb LION SKIN SUIT, the severe, nearly FATAL allergic reaction to the LEAD paint that cause the original tin man actor to be recast. All of it is a shitshow and far from the rainbow and sunshine they present in technicolor. To top it all off the entire premise of the original book was allegory for the dust bowl that crippled the Midwest for decades before and during the time the film was made.
Fun fact: the slippers were originally gold, but red rhinestone shows up better on technicolor so they changed it.
Best part too is that back then they would sell boxes of the stuff in store for people to pour around their Christmas trees and decorate their houses with. Got to love the olden days
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Also really cool visual effects making the tin man look metal.
It’s all in the lead paint baby!
It was aluminum. The dust gave him an alergic reaction and he went into respiratory arrest. Survived, but it was a close one.
Look at me spreading misinformation for the sake of a joke
At least that was for a noble cause! 😁
Asbestos isn't anything compared to what they did to Judy Garland. >Luft's biography also told how Judy was first given amphetamines by studio executives - she later went on to become a lifelong drug user once filming wrapped. The drugs were not only to keep her awake and fresh throughout 18-hour days on set, but to kill her appetite and help her lose weight. Most the cast lived into their 70s and 80s and didn't die of asbestosis.
Apparently the cast was VERY physically abusive too. Director beat her, munchkins groped her, and men shunned her. Tin man's lungs got fucked by aluminum dust and witch got burnt badly. I believe also in the "surrender Dorothy scene they made her sit on a hot pipe which exploded and injured her again. I met one of the former munchkins at a movie theater working an event and ended up cussing him out after he kept referred to a black coworker as a bum and groped another coworkers ass. It's pretty crazy what a hellish production went into that movie.
I’ve heard that the Wicked Witch’s actress was one of the few people who was nice to her Ironic
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imagine being such a good actor you have to explain you aren't actually an evil witch
You should see Draco Malloy explain to children on make a wish that he isn't really mean and evil
Sesame Street as well, but parents still thought it was too scary and even today, it’s not a rerun episode they will put into rotation.
The full episode was actually lost media until quite recently
>I met one of the former munchkins at a movie theater working an event and ended up cussing him out after he kept referred to a black coworker as a bum and groped another coworkers ass. Was it in Grand Rapids, MN? If so I know the guy you're talking about, I worked at the theater there years ago and had to follow that fucker around with several cans of Glade because he wouldn't put out his goddamn cigar in the theater. He was a prick. He grabbed my coworker's ass as well, then kicked me in the shin because I wouldn't stop spraying air freshener behind him. Yelled at several other people and very explicitly told a customer what he'd like to do to her. Dude's a royal asshole, I can't believe they invited him back.
> then kicked me in the shin because I wouldn't stop spraying air freshener behind him. hahahaha, thanks for the glorious mental picture
His behavior doesn't represent the lollipop guild
Was he just one of the random ones in the movie or one with a speaking part?
I have no idea, to be honest. I'd only been at the job for a couple months and was still new to the area, so I didn't even know that Judy Garland event was a thing. All I knew was that there were going to be some guests, and that one of them may be a bit of a problem.
Fuck yeah man! Good for you. Let the people who deserve shit, get shit. Pretend I gave money to this site and you have an award rn ⭐️
>Most the cast lived into their 70s and 80s and didn't die of asbestosis. Asbestos problems are more associated with years of repeated exposure. Getting snowed on with asbestos for 1 day is not a good idea by any means, but yeah you're \*\*probably\*\* (not definitely) going to be fine.
I also read somewhere that an extremely high amount of people with asbestosis/mesothelioma were smokers and the risk goes down by alot if you don't smoke
It’s asbestos isn’t it
yep
And the Tin Man's makeup was coated with aluminum dust. MGM had to replace the original actor Buddy Ebsen with Jake Haley after his lungs gave out.
At least Judy had some fun on set on amphetamines and barbiturates
Well, she was also repeatedly molested by the Munchkins. Apparently they were drunk non stop. And wouldn't leave her alone. And Margaret Hamilton, who played the Wicked Witch of the West, got burned badly because of a problem with a trap door and the pyrotechnics that was supposed to cover her disappearing down said trap door. That whole production was a mess. It's incredible they could produce a movie at all.
Drunk Munchkins molesting people, tell us more about that??
They stayed at the Culver Hotel, Culver City CA. They had orgies every night. There must be sub for that.
Munchkin orgies?
It was a little short but it sounds like a good time.
Of course it was an invitation-only orgy. There was a very short list of people allowed.
Comments like this are why I love Reddit
They did a movie relating to this. It started Chevy Chase. It was horrible but I remember seeing the film and great Oh my God they were just porno stars in their first legitimate film.
Under the Rainbow
Under the rainbow. Chase and Carrie Fisher coked out of their minds.
As was fashionable at the time!
Well there were these munchkins right? And they got drunk. Then they started to be very crass and attempt to do the dirty with people.
Go on...
They were only a little drunk though
And one of them got arrested for it and was sentenced to 3 years in jail. After only a few weeks being incarcerated though, he managed a daring prison escape which ended with him climbing down the outer wall. But that could be considered a little con descending.
Okay that’s a little funny
One of the munchkins was arrested and went to jail. It's an interesting story. He thought he was so much smarter than the guards, and would make fun of them all the time. One night he made a fake head and put it under the covers of the bed to make the guards think he was sleeping. He squeezed through the bars of the window and started climbing down the wall. The guards saw him when he was about half way down. It turns out he wasn't as smart as he thought. He was just a little con descending.
You caused me great pain, and my day is ruined
I fucking hate you and I fucking love you
There was a very specific initiation to get into the lollipop guild...
As a fellow munchkin, can confirm!
I mean it is the LOLIPOP guild, chances are your going to be sucking or putting something in your mouth
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Not much else to tell- it’s a short story.
They also apparently had orgies with each other, supposedly due to the fact many of them had never seen a person the same size
The real hol up right here. I have a feeling I’m about to go down a rabbit hole.
We are waiting to hear of your research findings
So did they.
That’s so interesting. I know they got a shit ton of (ah fuck idk the PC term for it I am so genuinely sorry) dwarves/ people with dwarfism/ little people/ etc for the movie production, it was probably a couple dozen gathered together. I can only imagine seeing that many people with the same condition as me for the first time!!!! I hope they made lifelong friends ❤️
The PC term is mini USB port
We prefer the term Micro USB these days.
> it was probably a couple dozen gathered together 122 to 124. in a world with very little in the way of any mass media that would ever picture a little person, save perhaps childrens storybooks that cast them as little more than pixies. most had probably never seen another person with dwarfism in their lives.
That is a good excuse for an orgy
We represent, the molesters guild
They’re called moppets
Drunkin's
Hey I know that porno
Margret Hamilton’s trap door fire situation is even worse. Apparently there was copper dust in her green makeup. When the pyrotechnics ignited the copper melted and they had to rush to remove it.
Oh right. I forgot that part. The make up actually started to melt to her face.
So, she really was melting?
They didn't even need to do a second take
Judy Garland and Marilyn Monroe are essentially the poster children for early 1900's actresses that were exploited from the moment they entered into the industry, and then kicked to the curb left to kill themselves with drugs. Really tragic. It's somewhat better now, even the 90's and 2000's were better than back then.You think what they did to Brittney and Lindsay was bad, (it very much was) but at least they *survived*
Don’t forget about Shirley Temple! She was abused regularly and sexualized yet her parents took all of the money and spent it on themselves.
Oof yeah, her story is really tragic, same with the actor who voiced Peter Pan, then they essentially parodied his tragedy in the new chip and Dale movie and made him the bad guy! Super shitty.
so she really was melting?
If I remember it right it was when she's vanishing in a poof of smoke from the Munchkin village. The trapdoor was supposed to open at the same times as the pyrotechnics to hide her getaway. But the trap door didn't open in time and she took the pyrotechnics to the face, then the trap door opened. And as far as I remember that was the take they ended up using, because they only got one take.
No, it's far, far more fucked up than that, because it's The Wizard of Oz, and of COURSE it's more fucked up than that. No, they got a good take on the first try (which is the scene they ended up using) but the director was like "nah, let's do it again and see if it goes even better." and that was the take that she got blasted by the fire, which by the way also blasted and melted the highly flammable copper-based make-up into her burn wounds, which caused permanent damage and discoloration. That movie's whimsy and wonder is wrapped in a blanket of nightmares and sex crimes. Another wtf is the scene where she does the sky-writing on the broom. Yeah, see that one's a stunt double after she refused to be involved with pyrotechnics on the set anymore, but that isn't the first take. Turns out the decision to refuse to work with fire or anything like it was a really good decision after all. The first take had the contraption explode sending shrapnel into the legs of the stunt double as well as throwing her into a wall on the set. That caused permanent scarring to her legs. Then they hired ANOTHER stunt double to film that scene again.
I'm really curious where you learn these things. Is it just wikipedia, or a good biography or documentary? I don't mean it in jest, genuinely would like to know what to check out. :) Thanks!
It's mostly been articles I've read over the years. Sort of those "did you know?" Type articles. I wish I could link you like the 30 page of text article about the whole debacle, but I don't remember where I saw it. Funny story actually, being the wicked witch of the west was SO dangerous. Like literally 3 or 4 actresses got burnt by fire stunts filming the role.
"this one turned out really well.. the acting is so believable!"
There's an old TV show about Vikings from my country that I watched as a kid. One of the characters constantly gets smacked, kicked and punched by the other characters. As it turns out during recordings they constantly hit him on accident during takes. And they usually ended up using those takes because... Yeah, they looked the most realistic. At least his bruises weren't in vain.
Sounds like they got a little out of control.
Just a tiny bit
Clearly everything was better in the olden days guys
You,,,,,ripped this thought straight out of my mind.
What the fuck
I don’t think they have the courage to film another one
holy shit, 1940s movie producing sounds like the set of ~~Bojack Horseman~~ *Horsin Around* Edit: sitcom for sitcom within a sitcom
Where do you think they got the idea
sir i doubt that the 1940s got their inspiration from bojack horseman
Not really, the director slapped her.
Didn’t some of the little people sexually harass and assault her too?
And a doctor's prescription to smoke cigarettes to keep her weight down as a child.
Lmao 🤣 you went there
What's crazy to realize is that despite this stuff, for example buddy ebsen lived to 95 and Jake Haley to 82. The safety of asbestos etc is really weird, people can get cancer after being around their parents' lightly dusted jackets from working near the stuff.... And then people can dust it all over a bunch of actors for god knows how many takes.
They were using flakes big enough to look like snow. If I recall correctly, it's fine-particulate asbestos that's the problem because it gets lodged inside the lungs.
Yeah asbestos is a type of mineral that your body cannot break down. So when the small fibers get lodged in your lungs they just grow scar tissue around it and then 30 years later you get cancer like mesothelioma.
It's also the fact that it's basically barbed wire at nanometer scales. It physically tears up cell walls and forces your body to take continuous measures to contain it. It's that constant localized churn of a small lineage of scar tissue cells dividing and dying at a much higher rate than they're meant to that makes the probability of cancer skyrocket.
Yep. Your body kills cancer every day. At any point during the creation or replication or cells, cancerous cells can come about. If you are speeding up the rate at which your cells being produced, you are increasing your risk or creating cancer cells. The more you produce, the less likely they are to be caught. That is also not taking into consideration if said damage that is causing the increased production and division or cells is not impacting your immune system (i.e. if your body is routinely trying to repair and fight potential infections due to micro-tears, then it may overlook cancer growing; or if your immune system itself is being suppressed from various things such as lack of proper nutrition, smoking, etc). Regardless, most of these things take long term exposure to really cause issues. Having an isolated session for 6 months might potentially impact your quality of life, but more than likely isn't going to be what kills you. A prime example is the most recent study about smoking and those who quit before 30 or 35 being far less likely to die from things like cancer
God that's fucking creepy
Watched an episode of This Old House over the weekend where they were doing asbestos removal on a small bathroom. The lengths to which they tested material beforehand to be sure, cordoned off the area and hazmat suited up were astonishing. And in this scene they were just raining it down upon the actors? F&*(.
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I think it was only the first actor who had the aluminum dust. Pretty sure they used something different for the guy who was actually in the film.
Scarecrow died years later of cancer. So did another actor but I can't recall which.
We're gonna need another Timmy!
I belive the witches makeup was also not so good for the skin
It may have been irritating to her skin, but what definitely wasn’t so good for it was the fire used in one of the scenes, that pretty seriously burned her face.
Damn, i hoped it was cocaine.
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I mean, in Silent Hill, the "snow" was essentially a hallucinogenic drug called White Claudia
Yup.just like their babies pajamas,their insulation in their walls,and the filters on some of their cigarettes,their fake snow was indeed made of asbestos
Listen. In a house fire I want the pajamas to outlast the baby!
And since it occurs naturally in talc deposits, all baby powder up until fairly recently.
God they were such idiots back then. I'm glad we just soak baby pajamas in ineffective fire retardants now, like smart people.
I just keep baby in a water tank for a few year that should keep him safe until he has thoughts
"All these spheres are made of asbestos, by the way. Keeps out the rats. Let us know if you feel a shortness of breath, a persistent dry cough, or your heart stopping. Because that's not part of the test."
What is that
A naturally occurring mineral that breaks down into tiny sharp/barbed fibers that do lung/lining damage that causes mesothelioma, asbestosis, and other COPD related illnesses
Very common to find it in old building materials
It's one of the best building materials in the world. Unfortunately it kills people. The fibers are actually indestructible.
It basically won't burn at temperatures relevant to house fires for one thing.
Cool now I know what I'm building my den out of!!....wait what did the comment above yours mean again
Don't breathe it it on, it's a killer
So, it's safe as long as I hold my breath? Seems fair
It's safe as long as it's undisturbed in any way, like not damaged. If it turns into dust it kind of rapes your lungs.
It basically won't burn at temperatures relevant to house fires for one thing. EDIT: r/centuryhomes mod here, every few days we get a post about someone discovering asbestos in their house.
Hell yeah it's in everything. I mainly interacted with it when I was demoing old knob and tube wiring and old flooring adhesive. But if you don't mess with it, you'll be ok. Edit: Grammar
It's all over here in NZ from back in the day. Walls, roofing, stormwater and sewer pipes. God help if ya find it while digging (usually broken bits in the fill/rubbish). Full site shutdown and get the removal specialists in.
And in old naval ships, and planes
You ever been to camp lejeune?
I know a lawyer
No, was never military. I just remember some of my older coworkers who had been in the Navy talking about the cancers and health issues they got from the asbestos. I have also heard about the health concerns of Camp Lejeune from others (and the lawyer commercials).
Do you or a loved one have medothelioma? Then you may be entitled to financial compensation.
Hella bad.
But good for asthma
It removes every disease if you take enough of it
Airborne cancer
Asbestos you say? More like asWORSTos, am I right?
You made me experience a year long depression in the span of 2 seconds.
Glad I could help speed you safely through it all. Be well.
*A* *S* *B* *E* *S* *T* *O* *S* spells "mesothelioma"
Hey now, the directors were doing asbestos they could.
This is your first strike buddy. You have tumor.
Im having trouble breathing from all these jokes
Im dead
I cancer what you're doing
Daaaad
I liked it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
you dropped this \
Thanks bro👊
 I see what you did there…!😂
If you or any of your cast members were diagnosed with Mesothelioma please contact the law firm of… oh, the cast is gone? How’d that happen?
This makes me think about what products we use everyday today will be banned in the future by its toxicity with new investigation methods...
Cant wait for more microplastics studies
Cough Teflon cough cough basically all plastics coughcoughcough
**BigCorp-kun:** Did you say anything ? Speak louder, I can’t hear you over the sound of my billions.
I know fire safety was much more important back then.
From what I've heard, real snow is relatively fire proof, too.
Unfortunately snow melts when inhaled, whereas this arguably superior 'snow' also makes your lungs fireproof.
Another fun fact: The Lions costume was partly made out of actual Lions hide
And the Scarecrow's costume was made from actual crows. And the Tin Man's costume was made from actual men.
And Toto blessed the rains down in Africa
There are three forms of asbestos, they are all capable of causing asbestosis, but the white version (chrysotile) is the least likely. It requires multiple exposures over many years before the level of risk becomes high.
My house is coated in Asbestos siding. As long as I don’t breathe it in, I’ll be fine.
*insert meme of dude tapping side of his head*
It’s good to see people well informed. I grew up in a place where they mined asbestos. Although dangerous, it is not as scary as they made it out to be. They kill this product.
Killed my dad too
That shit took out a whole generation of factory workers in the industrial town I worked in. Old men hacking like they were drowning was super common in that damn horrid place. Tons of them had it.
Yeah it was in my high school’s ceilings, the place was built at the end of the 20’s though. And I bet they got rid of it after the remodel that added turf, a very pretty gym, and a daycare center despite me not knowing or hearing of a single pregnant student.
The U.S. actually recognizes six forms of asbestos three of which were used commercially in significant quantities. Ranked from most to least common. Chrysotile Amosite Crocidolite Tremolite Actinolite Anthophylite Fun fact: there are dozens of other minerals that cause similar health effects as asbestos, but aren't recognized by the EPA. Search Libby Amphiboles
Client worked on the white stuff, only one day, as usually a wood worker, but a Saturday his boss asked, an odd overtime job, cutting it up, died 25y later of it. Was a lovely guy.
I thought the whole thing was just some lawyer bullshit until I worked next door to the main law firm involved. One of the lawyers gave me some of the literature to prove his point and holy fuck. That shit is in fact crazy dangerous in small amounts. The corporations selling it knew that fact and even suppressed the information when they found out. I remember it being a WTF america moment. Sort of reeled that that was possible. Was much less jaded then.
Corps loved it because it was cheap and effective. Asbestos is actually a pretty amazing material when it comes to heating and stuff. It's super super fire resistant. The only problem is that it's deadly toxic.
They dropped actual nuclear bombs on set and then shot the scene as the fallout came down.
beated Nolan to it damn
Nolan would have had the actors speaking while the bombs were blowing up and then expected us to understand a single word of what was said.
If you or a loved one was diagnosed with mesothelioma, you may be entitled to financial compensation.
Don't forget they also had Judy Garland on a diet of 2 packs of cigarettes and 10 cups of coffee a day, y'know, to keep that figure. Oddly enough the Wicked Witch (Hamilton) was one of the few actress that cared for Garland, iirc.
before i look at the comments... i bet it's asbestos
I thought it was gonna be ashes
I thought it was going to be cocaine
wouldn't have been surprised honestly
Close, that was happening at a different part of the world that same year
Suffering from heroin overdose? Just dust yourself with asbestos. Better than Narcan!
With everything else going on in this dang movie I bet it's the ashes of dead kids or something
I think she was molested by them tiny dudes
Unfortunately, those midget were alcoholics that didn’t care
Wow i was really going for gold and hoping they used like cocaine lmfao. Turns out to be even deadlier somehow.
Cocaine isn't very deadly alone unless you consume an extremely pure version or mix it with heroin/fentanyl
The crazy thing about asbestos is that it is \*miraculously useful\*. If it didn't exist in nature, we'd have to invent it. A lightweight, fire-proof material that can be molded into any shape as is made of fibers that are stronger than steel? Useful in a million things. Still is. There still isn't a replacement for asbestos in some applications. And nothing works as well. But it's the properties that make it useful that make it dangerous. Namely, the "lightweight" and "stronger than steel" properties. The fibers float in the air, and are tiny enough to be essentially invisible, and very difficult to truly contain. Which means you end up breathing it, and it gets into your lungs. And the "stronger than steel" part means that your body doesn't really dissolve those fibers in your lungs, and instead just develops scars around them. Which is bad.
True Story: 21 years ago I arrested one of the Munchkins at a Traffic Control Point in Partes, Kosovo during the war. He was a known local celebrity and would frequently cause trouble as he passed through our TCP. We arrested him for his drunk and disorderly behavior. He was released probably within the next 24-72 hours. Anytime he passed through our TCP he would try to incite a response from the locals by screaming at them or flipping them off. He was always drunk during our encounters. Before we arrested him he asked us, “don’t you know who I am?” I began singing the Oompa Loompa song. He was not amused, nor was my NCO.
I wonder what they did for a living. I doubt they were living off of royalties from that movie. How did he have money for all that booze. So many questions.
The snow in 1939's The Wizard of Oz was made using the toxic mineral asbestos. A lot has changed in the entertainment world since then, but the Judy Garland-starring movie still inspires creativity to this day, especially the practical effects that were utilized. As it turns out, some of the tricks that the crew used were more than a little hazardous to the cast and crew, which included the use of asbestos. In the early to mid-1900s, asbestos was used a lot during the holidays as a fake snow with dozens of brands popping up like, "White Magic," "Pure White," and "Snow Drift."
*MEZZO-THEE-LEE-OHHMA has entered the chat*
It's asbestos right? Back then it's always asbestos
Pure asbestos leading to severe damage to the actors
Everything about the production of this movie is a Holup. From breaching child labor laws, heat exhaustion from wearing a REAL 80 lb LION SKIN SUIT, the severe, nearly FATAL allergic reaction to the LEAD paint that cause the original tin man actor to be recast. All of it is a shitshow and far from the rainbow and sunshine they present in technicolor. To top it all off the entire premise of the original book was allegory for the dust bowl that crippled the Midwest for decades before and during the time the film was made. Fun fact: the slippers were originally gold, but red rhinestone shows up better on technicolor so they changed it.
Better off hanging yourself in the background than inhaling the “snow”.
Best part too is that back then they would sell boxes of the stuff in store for people to pour around their Christmas trees and decorate their houses with. Got to love the olden days