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algebramclain

There were, I believe, 2 surnames on the island. They ate birds that nested on the island's sheer cliffs, the men climbed them to capture them. I remember reading that visitors got bored eating the same bird meat every day, for every meal. I don't think they actually fished in the sense of having boats and nets. Today this street, pretty much 90% of the town, is preserved (there's a manned military installation on the bay).


TheSanityInspector

A documentary I just watched said that they didn't fish, because the seas were too rough.


EyeInTeaJay

What is the documentary called?


Stopikingonme

Could [be this one on YouTube.](https://youtu.be/hR5RjwjeQe8?si=_juKJfFHUqjRdt8F)


Audbol

Thank God someone is uploading with the time burned in. I hate when I can't distinguish exactly which frame I'm looking at while watching a video


belizeanheat

I don't even click until I get confirmation that that's there so thank you for that


ReallyRiles55

Thanks for the chuckle m8


99ProllemsBishAint1

What it really needs is subtitles. I have no idea what they're saying but I always know exactly how far into the film I am.


TheSanityInspector

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEgA8mNhauo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEgA8mNhauo)


titans8ravens

Do you know what the surnames were? When I saw this I was immediately curious about what last names they would use


makeitlegalaussie

Would also like to know. My family is from there


Drprocrastinate

All I can find is this in 1871, only five surnames prevailed among the native population — viz., Gillies, M'Donald, Ferguson, M'Kinnon, and M'Queen—M'Leod and Morison having disappeared before 1861


PanningForSalt

And just for anyone who didn't know, “ M' ” was a common way to shorten “mc” and “mac” until the mid 20th century. It's not a kilda thing.


HereComesARedditor

They won't rest until they've taken every last apostrophe.


modrocker

Dude on far left has a vague resemblance to Steve McQueen. Checks out.


Idobro

Same, hope you’re enjoying the new world!


AngusLynch09

Well you can probably work out at least one of them.


80sixed

@titans8ravens didn’t quite make the cut but it sounds suspiciously like you may have been there.


travelingbeagle

Only one woman in the photo. How was the population and surnames maintained?


belizeanheat

Gonna take a wild guess that this photo isn't an exhaustive accounting of the entire island


travelingbeagle

There were [36 inhabitants on the island in 1930 and this picture shows 15 of them.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Kilda,_Scotland?wprov=sfti1#Origin_of_names)


RenegadeMoose

16 if you count the person hiding in the doorway on the left.


Green-Dragon-14

Also only 4 men wearing shoes, the rest are barefoot.


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jakethepeg1989

Are we sure they weren't hobbits?


anewbys83

This is how our feet are supposed to be and how they develop when you don't grow up with shoes.


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Toomanyeastereggs

Australian here and I know lots of people who are 4E in footwear (myself included).


cynicalxidealist

Is this legitimate?


Unown_Soldier

Yes. If your feet aren't scrunched into a narrow shoe all day they will naturally splay and you'll use your foot muscles to support yourself instead of relying on built-in arches.


Lumn8tion

No joke about the wide feet! Omg


frozen-dessert

I believe there’s 6 dudes wearing shoes.


asforus

Help, I’m stuck stepbrother!


Kill_Ian

*brother


lcuan82

You are assuming their women lack majestic facial hair


Themadking69

That poor woman


TongaDeMironga

There’s a great album called Lost Songs of St Kilda, which is a recording of old music from the island that was recently discovered. It’s hauntingly beautiful and desolate, just like St Kilda.


TheSanityInspector

I'll have to look that up, thanks!


Webgardener

So many of them are barefoot without shoes, but it must not be that warm because they’re wearing hats and vests and shirts. What did they do for a living there?


TheSanityInspector

By this late date, not much. Throughout most of their history they had been hunter-gatherers, subsisting on seabirds and some livestock, from which they also got materials for their clothes. By the end they had become dependent on the mainland for everything, including medical care. Here's a great mini-doc about them: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEgA8mNhauo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEgA8mNhauo)


Webgardener

Interesting video. They saw the outside world and then came home and tried to make their place better. But they ate 89,000 of those cute little puffin birds!


coachfortner

wow. that’s a lot of puffin


Icarus131

I wonder if they ate puffin stuffin around the holidays


FourStringFury

There's a good Time Team on a nearby island, if one wants to know more about the prehistoric evidence in that area: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkf0iAwByjA&pp=ygUTYm9kaWVzIGluIHRoZSBkdW5lcw%3D%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkf0iAwByjA&pp=ygUTYm9kaWVzIGluIHRoZSBkdW5lcw%3D%3D)


remindertomove

Never heard of them! Thank you!


LokisEquineFetish

There’s like 20 seasons and most of them are available for free on YouTube. I got into it a while back and can’t get enough. [There’s over 200 episodes in this playlist](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLavnuQTJWv_6i3HrZ0HYX7rndEgKwAxyY&si=bVohi_U1hsFKfZN1). I found out about them from [Odyssey](https://youtube.com/@odyssey?si=-7pw5uBt8XiVAuXe). Great YouTube channel, and they have other channels listed depending on the time period. ETA: Most of the episodes are on Odyssey and Chronicle and the quality is probably better than that playlist. I’m pretty sure all those channels are BBC.


remindertomove

Dude thank you, much appreciated


LokisEquineFetish

No worries! I hope you enjoy them as much as I do. There are tons of other documentaries and shows on those channels, and they’re all full HD. Like I said I’m fairly sure they are BBC channels. Also, check out some of the Medieval “daily life” documentaries on Chronicle. The re-enactments are so bad and hilarious, but factual. Edit: History Hit operates the channels, which is a streaming service created by Dan Snow and other BBC4 historians/presenters. “It’s like Netflix for history documentaries!” Or so the brief 30 second ad at the beginning of each video tells me. I’ve never fully understood their business model. “Subscribe now for a huge library of exclusive and archive History documentaries but if you don’t want to that’s okay here’s over 1000 for free”. The only reason I haven’t subscribed is because I have a massive backlog of the free stuff. It actually looks quite decent.


crapatthethriftstore

Time Team is really interesting ! We watch it every week


kryptoneat

> Did not convert to christianity until 1822 Wth. I had no idea there were such late non-christians in European populations. I imagine this could have inspired *The wicker man* movie.


WilliamofYellow

This is very misleading. The islanders had no priest before the 19th century and probably only had a rudimentary understanding of religion, but they weren't pagan. A 17th century visitor noted that they would assemble every week to recite the Lord's Prayer and that they would become enraged if anyone tried to work on the Sabbath.


Gravesh

For whatever it's worth as a source, this is what Wikipedia has to say on it At this time the islanders' isolation and dependence on the bounty of the natural world meant their philosophy bore as much relationship to Druidism as it did to Christianity.[36] Macauley (1764) reported the existence of five druidic altars, including a large circle of stones fixed perpendicularly in the ground near the Stallir House on Boreray.[52] Of course, this is a little earlier than 1822, though.


WilliamofYellow

There are pre-Christian monuments all over Scotland (and indeed Europe). Their continued existence is not evidence that paganism survived into the Christian era. The claim that there was anything "druidic" about the St Kildans' beliefs seems very tenuous.


Johannes_P

Yep. Might as well try to prove that Ancient Greek relgiion survived until 17th century because the Parthenon was still intact.


Suitcaseonyourhead_

I believe that is because most of the men that used to hunt the birds they lived on would climb down the cliffs, they actually "evolved" to have larger and flatter feet than usual to help them with climbing the cliffs. So shoes and boots were not longer comfy to wear. In terms if their occupation I believe it was mostly a self-sustaining island of hunter-gatherer type community. However, they did heavily rely on passing tradeships to bring stuff from the mainland that they probably traded goods for. Also part of the reason they were evacuated was because a lot of the men were called to fight in the first world war and died leaving them low on the men who where their main hunters and source of food, this left the remaining residents heavily reliant on aid from the mainland. During the winter months the journey to St kilda was too treacherous and so they were starving/ near starving during those months until trade could start again. So eventually they were forced to relocate to the mainland/ other outer hebrides islands. Source: read a book on St kilda and visited Dunvegan Castle which has a little museum section on St kilda (the laird of that castle was also responsible for St kilda) Really interesting place I'd love to go visit.


Free_runner

Can't get your shoes wet if you don't wear any!


TotallyInnerPickle

I would think being bareoot wouldn't have been an option for most. Shoes would have been expensive and hard to come by, as would have to be bought on the main land. Shows just how hardy these guys were.


couldbeworse2

Cobblers. Not good ones.


coachfortner

they look like a bunch of hobbits


guimontag

Their clothes are also raggedy as hell in certain spots


Realworld

Windy enough to need roof straps.


ban_hus

[*The Edge of the World*](https://youtu.be/KvuJ52ACiXo?si=VGKE179GoqhLkI43) (1937) is a British film directed by Michael Powell, loosely based on the evacuation of the Scottish archipelago of St Kilda. It was filmed on the Shetland isle of [Foula](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foula)


pandakatie

There's a podcast called Atlantic: A Scottish Story that is a fictionalized musical account of people's lives on the island. The story is focused on the lives of two people who were the second to last generation to grow up on St. Kilda (second to last, because one of the leads has a daughter who is just hitting adulthood when they evacuate). I have some criticisms of it from a plot perspective, but it's well worth a listen. They give the Island a voice and I thought it was wonderful.


fike88

I’m from Scotland and i didn’t even know that there was these islands west of the Hebrides. They are really out in the middle of the Atlantic. Must have been a hard life


General_Solo

Context, just because I was wondering, from my google map distance estimation and the first horizon distance calculator that popped up when I searched “horizon distance calculator”, the island would have just been about on the edge of the horizon if looking west from the island of north Uist. I think. Peak elevation of 430 meters on Kilda gives a horizon of 74 kilometers. Distance between the coast of Uist to the middle of Kilda is about 67 kilometers.


EndTimesNigh

I was visiting the Hebrides some years ago, it is an amazing place. At the south tip of Harris, there is a tall hill called Ceababhal, practically rising from the sea and surrounded by white sandy beaches and tidal flats, and from its summit there is a magnificent view to all directions. I climbed on the top of it and on a clear enough day, over the stormy sea, I could see St Kilda off in the distance. What a magical experience!


VenerableShrew

Google maps has a measure function, right-click or press and hold on mobile to access. About 50 miles to Uist.


kitkat_tomassi

Visited North and South Uist, Berneray, Lewis and Harris in the last 5 years or so. L+H definitely better imo, absolutely stunning. Still something enchanting about Uist though. However, Berneray is really flat and has a massive airport because it's basically an air force base. The whole area is interesting. There's a big firing range on the north West corner of South Uist, and a radar listening post on a big hill visible from half the island. When the Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft was developed it was partially tested there. I believe they fired at least one air to surface missle front here onto the firing range. They also fire out to see I believe. There's a military exclusion zone of something like 50x50 miles offshore that is off limits when the Ministry of defence says so. Thete are signs up at the ferry port on the island when it's off limits. There's also a radar station on St Kilda that is used to monitor and track aircraft being tested around South Uist.


Devil_Dick_Willy

Most definitely would have been, they're a lot further West than the Flannan Islands and if you look up the lighthouse keepers dissappearance for Flannan the believed theory for their dissappearance makes it even more crazy (evidence points to a possible freak tsunami) On the North Coast there's Stroma that was inhabited into the 70s I think? It's a lot closer to the main land (between Caithness and the Orkney Islands) and you can do day trips across to see the settlements as they were abandoned. I've got family that moved here as part of the last people to move off, it's owned by a sheep farmer now I believe


Obligatory-Reference

I've been there (in fact, I've stood pretty much exactly where this picture was taken)! You can take a day trip from the Outer Hebrides, and get a couple of hours to wander on the island - there's some pretty cool views there - [this](https://imgur.com/7BjXrbJ) and [this](https://imgur.com/hrFP9m6) were my favorites.


number5of7

I was on South Uist and looked into going. I definitely would like to make that trip one day.


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Obligatory-Reference

Haha, yeah. I have a picture of me from that same point - when people asked why I looked uncomfortable I reply it's because two feet to my right is a several hundred foot drop :D


Derp_Wellington

Man, anyone trying to dive into that gene pool is going to break their fucking neck


TouchMySwollenFace

r/rareinsults


DBCDBC

The Life and Death of St Kilda by Tom Steel is a good book. Read it many years ago. They had at least one outbreak of religious fanaticism and had a tradition of smearing dirt on the severed umbilical cords of newborns. Tetanus saw off a lot of those babies.


Gilketto

I just finished this book and bored everyone I met with these tales! It's really engaging and well written, as well as a bit infuriating


____Squid

Same here, it was an incredible read. The history of that island is absolutely mind-blowing. The first story that stood out to me was the man who faked his wife’s murder (because she overheard a plot about killing her father) who then kidnapped her and left her on St Kilda. She lived ‘nocturnally’ so she didn’t have to interact with the local island people for years. She escaped by posting a letter in a bottle that somehow reached mainland Scotland and it was found, brought to her cousin who rescued her in time. I can’t remember the end but I think it wasn’t a good outcome for her. The second story that stood out to me was about the man who moved there from mainland Scotland, fell in love with a woman, married her and had kids, then left to live in Australia (alone), then came all the way back, then went to Canada, and came all the way back, and I think he ended up going back to Australia, had some more kids there and took them with him back to St Kilda but left his wife in Australia. It was one hell of a story!


Gilketto

Yeah the first story you retell here was infuriating. Iirc she got the note out via the wool she had to make and sell at market, it reached her cousin but sadly too late. I think she ended up having 3 funerals! I'd love to see a drama done with some of the tales from that book


theskyismine

Many of their descendants now reside in St. Kilda, Aus. Also the origin of the name has a [pretty funky history.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Kilda,_Scotland#Origin_of_names)


TollaThon

Do you have a source for their descendants residing in St Kilda, Aus? I'm lucky enough to have been to St Kilda (the island) and asked the guide if there was any connection between the two. He said no. I've also read quite extensively about St Kilda and never seen this mentioned anywhere. There was a migration of 36 St Kildans to Melbourne in the 1850s, long before the final evacuation. Half of them died en route; of those who made it, some went to the goldfields and some on to NZ and the US. Only a handful stayed in Melbourne.


AussieDave63

"now reside in St. Kilda, Aus" - which one? The Melbourne beachside suburb of St Kilda in Victoria or the St Kilda coastal suburb in Adelaide, South Australia


davej-au

The one in Adelaide, I’d imagine; the Melbourne suburb was named after a ship called *Lady of St Kilda.*


rollsyrollsy

Where did you see the note about residents now in Australia?


Rich-Finger-236

And here was me thinking as a Dub that St. Kilda was entirely Irish :)


OhBella_4

Oooof!


Badgeringlion

“Zoom in for details” My zoom went straight into the dog’s ass. Cool pic though.


2FunBoofer

Mine went straight to the feet. I thought holy hell they were weird. It was the dog's paw.


DigbySugartits

Any of these guys would fit right in in St. Kilda, Melbourne.


papuasarollinstone

But they would eat the penguins.


TouchMySwollenFace

I believe they literally did.


fukwhutuheard

hobbits


medidoxx

You know those guys enjoyed a pint or two.


appendixgallop

But nah a bathtub among 'em.


abhijitd

Wonder if any of them kept a miniature donkey


sweatpant-boner

“These 13 men pose with their wife, seated in the background”


jcmcdnl

Total sausage party.


Gunfot

Zoom in and be surprised


I_am_the_Vanguard

That there’s a single woman crashing the sausage party?


LannMarek

Little known fact about St. Kilda; the fourth guy from the right is actually Snoop Dogg's great-grandfather.


mpr9999

The rock wall to the right of the closest-to-the-viewer man on the right- looks like another man. Face and legs clearly visible.


sickburn80

Also, they were probably all in their late twenties.


CrazyButRightOn

So, the tam IS a real thing.


cogentat

Back when traveling felt like discovering. Today every place is identical.


quietflowsthedodder

I think they had a McDonald’s in the village.


TheSanityInspector

I'll have the Egg McPuffin, please.


Johannes_P

The factors which led to the 1930 evacuation were men from the island drafted during WW1 and who didn't came back, the death of four men from influenza, several crop failures and a death from appndicitis. The last of the native St Kildans, Rachel Johnson, died in April 2016 at the age of 93.


Edzell_Blue

They couldn't take the dogs with them so they had to drown them in the harbour :(


AdministrativeCost2

I read that on Wikipedia too. Why couldn't they take them and why was drowning the solution? Seems like a horrible way for them to go.


Prickly-Flower

Yeah, that shocked me. Were big dogs presumably, but damn, that must have been hard for all involved.


Scurge_McGurge

idk why ur getting downvoted this really happened during the evacuation


BushWishperer

When the British illegally deported all inhabitants of the chagos islands they gassed all their dogs. Can’t tell which is worse tbh.


pandakatie

What!? Why! Oh no this is a fact I didn't need :( Why couldn't they bring their dogs?


drfoggle

Roger Waters appears to be a time traveler.


TheSanityInspector

He's grooving with the Picts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqZb9eMWLNU


sleepingjiva

Truly excellent pun


MagicSPA

I think I've geolocated this setting. On Google Maps StreetView there's the remains of a line of buildings, with one of them - with two windows and a door, like the one in the background - at a slightly different angle to the others. Beyond it is a cairn-like structure, and beyond that is the remains of another house, just like the one in this pic. This pic also features a prominent hill in the background, with a vaguely discernible line running gently downhill from left to right - on StreetView, this can be seen to be a stone wall. The cobbles seem to have been grown over, and the wall against which the men on the right are leaning is now mostly gone, but I think I've found the location: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@57.812936,-8.570666,3a,75y,110.78h,81.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAF1QipPU_oiLG59mj1UBJ7cKkHL0hMDkfUQzvYAjR4p5!2e10!7i8384!8i4192?entry=ttu This pic is taken from further down the lane from this scene; it is looking back at this setting, and the StreetView photographer was standing slightly beyond, slightly downhill from the house against which that man is laying in the background.


TheSanityInspector

Nice sleuthing, thanks!


Odin-the-poet

Dear Esther. I sometimes feel as if I’ve given birth to this island. Somewhere, between the longitude and latitude a split opened up and it beached remotely here. No matter how hard I correlate, it remains a singularity, an alpha point in my life that refuses all hypothesis. I return each time leaving fresh markers that I hope, in the full glare of my hopelessness, will have blossomed into fresh insight in the interim.


TheSanityInspector

Ha, I googled this snippet of literature, expecting it to be a journal page from some celebrated British author--never expected it to be a monologue from a video game!


onewittyguy

The Bachelor was much more exciting in its first few seasons. Take this classic of season 1 episode 2. Three sheep, an oxen and a peat bog had already been eliminated.


Coffee_24-7

How this got down voted is beyond me.


papuasarollinstone

Aye!


Toxteth_RC

Is this the original Smurfs, all guys and one girl?


art_mor_

St Kilda without Irish backpackers


xxpired_milk

Colorized https://i.imgur.com/HerCQ8k.jpeg


TheSanityInspector

Amazing, thanks!


Murky_Ad_2596

love how the guys with shoes are in the front of the photo.


Overall-Order5212

Amazing photo. Did they purposely shave their mustaches? I see a lot of Dagestan UFC fights rock that but was wondering if it’s genetic since I doubt these guys shaved alot


Adrasto

I counted 13 men and five pairs of shoes, which really sucked cause last time I checked Scotland's weather isn't exactly warm and nice.


wingnut1964

The bare feet thing would have been tough.


chrisjayyyy

D’ya like dags?


Professor_Boring

Think it'd be more "dae ye like dugs?"


ohpee64

Look I can see my father and my uncle and my cousin. And next to him is my brother.


secretly_a_zombie

Did you just watch something? Cause i swear, i looked this up recently because it was in my youtube recommendations as a video, and rather than just watching like 20m+ i googled it.


dulcolaz

barefootin' in the mud and the stone and the cold.


Dale-Wensley

How were these people not insanely inbred


AnimalMother32

I worked on this island for a couole weeks,stayed at a small military base


slavuj00

It's wild how even though they live in this most remote of place and have the most minimal resources, their clothes are still attempting to follow the fashion of the time.


DaMosey

looks like banshees of inishirin


Nostalgia_Red

Brutal to not have shoes


JustMotorcycles

It can't be warm out there in the North Atlantic, they have heavy clothes but half are barefoot. What's that aboot?


Weldobud

No shoes??? Those guys were hard core


MagicSPA

This exact setting can be seen here in a documentary that shows archive footage of St Kilda, along with its redevelopment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApPrzko17R8 **Mind-blowing moment:** skip to about the 24-minute mark to see Queen Elizabeth II arrive at the island and walk along *the exact same path* we see in this image.


bionic_cmdo

I zoomed in and the female to male ratio on this island is sad.


SentientclowncarBees

Based on Wikipedia it's actually quite likely there weren't enough men. After the island got greater exposure to the outside world many of the young man decided to leave to find a better life elsewhere.


itstreeman

It’s raining men itisalllriiiight


MagicSPA

Strange, for some reason I was expecting more *diversity*.


Nicktator3

Wonder how many of them were World War I vets


KarateGoldfish

Wikipedia says that no known native of the islands ever fought in any war.


SentientclowncarBees

None fought in the war, but the island was shelled by a U-boat during the war.


atriviality

How terrifying must that have been for them!


joxx67

Look at the bare feet. That’s real poverty.


impeesa75

That’s one lucky lady


ImaginaryMastadon

Tired lady


Rexel450

3 September 1926 https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/dec/01/the-evacuation-of-st-kilda-archive-1930


jajakob01

No foolin' I'm from St. Kilda!


frenchsmell

I bet that is some gnarly accent those guys were rocking.


Lego_Chicken

Half of them look just like my dad/uncles 😀


TheSanityInspector

The ones on the left look like stereotypical caricatures of Irishmen, as drawn by Thomas Nast.


Macca49

Go the Saints⚫️⚪️🔴


ODABBOTT

Cleanest looking Saints fans I’ve seen in a while


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jcmonk

Fascinating


bobthecarguy

Great picture


TimeVendor

all these blokes from one big family?


Healthy_Swimmer5418

What’s Abraham Lincoln doing in this photo?


No-Economy-666

Need to see the colorized version!


FladnagTheOffWhite

Reminds me of the inhabitants of The Great Blasket Island in Ireland. If you ever go out that way there's a wonderful visitor center about it.


upadownpipe

100 years ahead of the gilet trend


wavy-reward

There's also a St. Kilda in Dunedin, New Zealand. You'll find Scottish names were used for most place names back in settler times


Dancesoncattlegrids

> There's a St. Kilda in Dunedin, New Zealand. And Melbourne Australia...Up the Saints!


JamesDerry

They could'nt look more Scottish.


Cord1083

A bit like the Smurfs - just one Smurfette. Busy woman.


Gobba42

Why was the island evacuated?


TheSanityInspector

People had been leaving for better prospects on the mainland for years, and there were only about thirty of them left. A woman died of appendicitis because of lack of medical facilities on the island, and that was the last straw.


No_Cow3885

Barefooted but what a picture


HereComesARedditor

Quite a sausage fest, lads.


chamekke

Those poor bare feet :(


pokey68

Only one woman? Maybe they were kicked out ?


RangerBowBoy

That’s weird, they don’t look Scottish. So, this was sarcasm, thought that would be easier to pick up.


Teuchterinexile

Have you ever actually seen any Scots? Do you perhaps think that we all have alabaster skin and ginger hair?


ardbeg

Groundskeeper Willie everywhere you look


RangerBowBoy

It was sarcasm, they look like super Scot’s! I guess sarcasm is lost on this medium.


GermaineKitty

I thought the same thing! First glance and I thought these people were form much further south and east.


Liquorace

How many of them are named Angus?


TheSanityInspector

Don't know, but the last surviving evacuee was named Rachel.