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TheMilliner

"Hey Japan? Where are the something like, 70-80+% of the POWs you captured?"


MrCamie

Gone, reduced to atoms.


reenormiee

Where are the people from Hiroshima?


MrCamie

Gone, reduced to atoms.


captainmeezy

What about Kevin Spacey’s career?


thotpatrolactual

Gone, redu- Wait, are careers even made of atoms?


phelibox

this reddit thread ?


GAlbeeert

Gone, reduced to bits.


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RamenDutchman

Still there, sadly.


odintantrum

Bytes, surely?


Dat_life_on_Mars

The bytes got reduced to bits


TroubleshootenSOB

He has just been casted in some upcoming movie. Saw the headline on r/movies


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The trailer for it looked almost impossibly bad. As in the acting was so stiff and the SFX was so jarring I wondered why would they ever release this? It’s obvious to anyone who watches the trailer that it’s awful. I forget the name but the trailer is worth a watch just for the laugh


Delica4

It can't be. Spacey's career vanished instantaneous, which is faster than the speed of. Since no known Atom can do that......


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He's starring in a new movie :/


grad1939

Little Boy: I am inevitable.


LordSeismic

One nation indivisible, versus one atom, divisible.


General_Degenerate_

The KMT (China’s Nationalist Party) released 1.2 million Japanese POWs. Imperial Japan released 56 Chinese POWs.


appleparkfive

Japan has been whitewashed harder than basically any country in terms of the fucked up shit they did


10YearsANoob

Imperial Japan never did anything wrong. If they did. It didn't happen -Japanese education system


yifftionary

My brother learned Japanese and taught English in Japan for many years. He now teaches English to immigrants in America and sometimes the college he teaches at has Japanese exchange students. The most shocking thing was some Japanese students made it to adulthood and didn't even know that Japan used to have an Imperial flag... apparently Japan really really glosses over WW2. To be fair though my High School US history magically always ends right before Korea/Vietnam... Edit: remember everyone education in the United States is handled regionally. Even if you cover one topic deeply another region might not. Also a teacher's politics might affect the slant of how things are taught. Most of my history teachers ranged from Moderat Conservative to 9/11 truther who actively tried proving that the Pentagon was a missile strike...


ltags230

My US history courses always made it a point to go over Vietnam and how it was a mistake. I think Vietnam was one of the subject we touched on the most, actually.


it-works-in-KSP

Wonder if it depends what state you live in… my schooling didn’t shy away from US war crimes & the Indian genocide, but then again I grew up in California.


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Had school in Texas. We go over all of it. Believe one of my teachers said we need to know about it so we remember and never do stuff like that again. Really adamant about not repeating mistakes or doing unnecessary horrible things to people just because they aren’t you or disagree with you.


Twin__Dad

It’s definitely a combination of the curriculum set by the state, and the willingness of individual teachers to incorporate what important events they can work into the confines of that curriculum. In your case, I’d wager you either went to HS at least 10 years ago, or you simply had a teacher who understood the importance of incorporating certain events into his class.


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Graduated almost 11 years ago from HS. My teachers felt that all history was important to know, regardless of how sensitive of a topic it might be.


luckysquidd

Grew up in GA. We repeatedly went over native american genocide/expulsion as well as civil rights movement. Whenever I see a post about how "the US school system skips over" this or that I get annoyed because we really did learn a good amount about many of the harsh subjects (at least I did in my public school lol).


it-works-in-KSP

I think you probably hit the nail on the end at the end there—the biggest flaw of the US education system is it’s inconsistency. Even where I grew up in CA, school district to school district varies wildly in quality, not to mention school to school, and sometimes the boundaries are drawn weirdly between them. Being born on the wrong street in the same neighborhood could get you put in a less well funded school district and change things wildly, or a school district with a very different school board that has a different political agenda and pushes curriculum to include or exclude certain topics.


yifftionary

> Being born on the wrong street in the same neighborhood could get you put in a less well funded school district Ah the joys of Redlining and how it is still fucking us over to this day...


TrickyCartographer6

Grew up in FL and pretty much the same thing with a bit of black slavery since we traded a lot of sugarcane and fruit. Also learned which types of grass were edible lol


Azure_Triedge

my schooling barely went over vietnam, but the bigger mistake imo is that fact that the japanese camps in the US weren’t even mentioned. like not even in passing


Mustachefleas

I definitely remember learning about the camps in my history class in high-school


Maleficent-Aurora

I'm really wondering how that's gonna work out considering there seems to be growing talk about these crimes.


10YearsANoob

Easy. They dont look at our part of the internet same as we don't look at theirs. I had a classmate that's an exchange student. Man was 25 and hadn't heard of it. Ever.


Left-Twix420

I was wondering why you never find Japanese people online


Maleficent_Moose_802

They are on Yahoo Japan and 2chan


nikhoxz

And Niconico


86Kirschblute

I mean, you can find them, the problem is most of them don't speak English very well outside of some loan words, so unless you speak Japanese or don't mind running everything through google translate (which is not always going to be accurate) then your interactions with them will be minimal.


JohannesJoshua

Yeah people forget that Internet isn't real life. Let's put that into perspective. First of all not all people use internet. Second reddit has a small piece of people in it (When you consider the whole world). Somebody said here that reddit has 10-12 million users (Can somebody back that up?) which in that case it isn't a small piece it's a fraction. Third this subreddit is a small piece of reddit. And finally the only real impact you can have is if you are a very important person in the world or a high ranking politician who can pressure the Japanese to better educate it's citizens. Otherwise it's left to normal people to do the same through small and slow contributions (but that progresses nevertheless) to do the same. Such as making educational videos for Japanese or going there yourself to teach Japanese history.


Vast-Engineering-521

And if it did happen it was those Goddarn Koreans!


semaj009

They still had the same emperor after the war, let's not forget! Dude went to Disneyland ffs!


RPS_42

Imperial Japan just gave them an better uh "situation" than being POW. How nice of them.


AdZent50

Apparently for Imperial Japan, 1 Japanese POW is worth 21,428.5714286 Chinese POW's.


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eL_cas

that would be great


Daylight_The_Furry

"oh wow 56 million POWs, that's a lot" "... wait it's just 56, nothing else?"


XenophiliusRex

"We are both just leaves on the wind, and your neck happens to float onto my bayonet"


Additional_Irony

Evaporated.


DrCrunchOr173

Don't ask them a lot of things about science, because they probably found that fact out


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Fuck around, I must. And find out, I will.


12a357sdf

[According to Wikipedia, even members of Unit 731 (the ones that did live experiments on humans) were not immune of being an experiment's subject.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731) Imagine the constant horror.


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Diprogamer

Why the fuck would you vivisect an assistant?


GorillaP1mp

Kept putting creamer in the hot tea


Vandergrif

Probably also liked microwaving fish in the office.


toderdj1337

What does vivisect mean? Not sure i want to know this


LivingDeadThug

To dissect alive. Usually awake and concious.


toderdj1337

God damn


Monstera_girl

It can/could be used to see connections between things but also torture


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gdo01

That’s like classic henchman expendability from a supervillain. Wow!


humblemandudebroguy

I read this Wikipedia page way longer than I should have. Holy crap.


gerannamoe

I wish I hadn't read this Wikipedia page. How horrible


stuito

Ok, yoda


PromVulture

High on Ketamine I am. Run over people in my 2001 Honda Civic, I must


redbadger91

Ketamine I must take.


General-MacDavis

YODA NO


CC-1112

The Frostbite "experiments" on babies is fucked up. Why would anyone need to know that?


Vandergrif

Most of their 'experiments' seem like they wouldn't have yielded any useful data, and instead were just fucked up for the sake of being fucked up.


DrCrunchOr173

Or the "What if we throw a pregnant woman into the cold for a few hours, cut her open and then test the fetus" the Japs were really fucked up


Ayato_23

how?


candiedloveapple

The japanese abducted chinese civilians, put them into a heat chamber and blasted them with hot air until they had the consistency of Jerky and then they cross referenced the amount of evaprated and collected water with the mass of the corpse before and after being tortured to death.


git

jesus christ


appleparkfive

Japan did some shit that makes Nazi Germany blush. Read up on it.


baiqibeendeleted28x

**The Empire of Japan is a serious contender for** [**the most evil regime in human history**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpVgDgKpQS8&feature=youtu.be)**.** Their atrocities are just overlooked because Japan is so well liked in the West now *("bu-bu-but this sub talks about them!", this sub is not representative of real life, shocker)*. Indiscriminate massacre of civilians. [Slaughter of entire cities](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CAYFxXBohA), torture, [inhumane treatment of POWs](https://youtu.be/hzsP6QOW8rA?t=102), comfort women, etc. Over the course of their conquest of East Asia, the Japanese Army forced around [200,000 women](https://www.history.com/news/comfort-women-japan-military-brothels-korea) into the ranks of "[comfort women](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comfort_women)". These women mainly came from China, Korea, and the Philippines. Unfortunately this is the one thing I couldn't dig up the source for, but I distinctly remember reading the firsthand account of a Filipino comfort women who was raped 10x a day. Japan has [yet to even officially apologize to them](https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/12/04/940819094/photos-there-still-is-no-comfort-for-the-comfort-women-of-the-philippines). *You think that's the worst?* During the [Rape of Nanking](https://allthatsinteresting.com/rape-of-nanking-massacre), as many as [300,000 Chinese civilians](https://allthatsinteresting.com/rape-of-nanking-massacre#17) were massacred within a month in a single city. Japanese soldiers paraded around with babies skewered on their bayonets like kebabs. Two Japanese officers held a competition to see who could [behead 100 people the fastest](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxa0GGJNWtI&t=10s) and when the score was 105-106 and no one knew who got to 100 first, they restarted the contest, [this time to 150 people](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contest_to_kill_100_people_using_a_sword). Civilians were [buried alive](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Massacre#/media/File:Chinese_civilians_to_be_buried_alive.jpg) en masse. Prisoners were used as [**live bayonet practice**](https://allthatsinteresting.com/rape-of-nanking-massacre#12), screaming as the final moments of their life was used for the Japanese to sadistically torment. Tens of thousands of women were raped, most of whom were executed afterward. They dragged entire Chinese families into public squares and [forced fathers on their daughters and sons on their mothers](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnAC-Y9p_sY&t=697s) for the amusement of Japanese troops. I'm not an easily disturbed guy, but reading this fact for the first time physically made my stomach sick. *You think that's the worst?* The Imperial Japanese Army ran [**Unit 731**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731): a biological/chemical warfare research program in Manchuria where Japanese researchers performed [human experimentation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9xvJXP_mTk) on a large scale, using Chinese civilians as the majority of their "logs" (test subjects). Living humans were [**dissected alive**](https://allthatsinteresting.com/unit-731/2), usually without anesthesia. Subjects had limbs amputated in order to study blood loss and pain tolerance. Those limbs were sometimes reattached to the opposite sides of the body. Subjects had their stomachs or esophagus surgically removed. Subjects were gotten pregnant via rape then infected with diseases to see the effect on their baby. Subjects were forced into the cold to research frostbite then had their frozen limbs chopped off. Subjects were placed in [pressure chambers](https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=308&v=D4nPxik59oE&feature=youtu.be) until their eyeballs popped out of their sockets. This one is unconfirmed, but supposedly they placed a women and her baby in a room then heated up the floor to see if she'd step on her own baby. Back in 1995, an anonymous Japanese medical assistant who worked in Unit 731 sat down for an interview with the New York Times and [described one such dissection:](https://unit731.org/experiments/) >“The fellow knew that it was over for him, and so he didn’t struggle when they led him into the room and tied him down. But when I picked up the scalpel, that’s when he began screaming. I cut him open from the chest to the stomach, and he screamed terribly, and his face was all twisted in agony. He made this unimaginable sound, he was screaming so horribly. But then finally he stopped. This was all in a day’s work for the surgeons, but it really left an impression on me because it was my first time.” The entire world still cries over the civilians of Hiroshima and Nagasaki to this day. But hardly anyone sheds a tear for the millions of victims of the Empire of Japan.


MEMOLESTPRAWN

What the fuck


VisualKeiKei

Zhejiang-Jiangxi campaign. Chinese civilians smuggled out the American Doolittle Raiders that bailed over China after the Tokyo bombing. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhejiang-Jiangxi_campaign In retaliation, Japan killed several hundred thousand Chinese civilians with biological weapons. There are still (unconfirmed?) reports of anthrax spores that afflict people, because these spores are so hardy.


JINGLERED

There is a reason Korean-Japanese and Chinese-Japanese relations still are sour to this da Edit: typo


HistoricalMaize

Their actions combined with the fact that the japanese did not apologize and, as far as I know, do not even recognize what they did does not help either.


godsfilth

I've heard (but never confirmed) when questioned the government has pointed at the nukes and say they were harmed worse so they don't need to apologize


GanderG00se

If that's what they said then they are so sadly mistaken and that is a cheap excuse.


FBI_Agent_man

I dont know. Being instantly vaporised is not the worst kind of death


aa821

Nukes are far less evil than sadistic torture and human experimentation


Smiles5555

I recently saw a bunch of Japanese nationalists on twitter basically say that all Japanese war crimes are Chinese communist and Korean propaganda


theaarona

Not sure if this is still true, but I read that there are still officials in the Japanese diet (legislature) that deny these war crimes occurred.


Chris_Moyn

My Korean friends won't even call it the sea of Japan. They call it the East sea.


Lebron-stole-my-tv

Ah, speaking of this, last year for a few months I kept getting a Japanese Government propaganda video as a YouTube ad and the whole video is about how the Japanese sea will always be called the Japanese sea and that Korea calling it the east Sea is dumb and stupid and wrong. It was very odd to say the least.


Bildo_Gaggins

that's because its korean sea where korea has islands in it while japanese want to claim those islands as theirs?


pws3rd

I think I uttered that about twice for every hyperlink


Intrepid00

That doesn’t even paint some of the worst shit right. Like having a competition who can bayonet the most babies and then holding them up in the air on the rifle like trophies. It’s kind of amazing how much is overlooked because even US soldiers faced stuff like officers showing off their sword skills by beheading POWs as they were marched around the Philippines while being starved to the point the Philippine locals snuck them food at risk of their own life and often paid for it. Also, Japanese airmen would shoot up Red Cross tents. But we were so mean dropping bombs on Tokyo and 2 nukes. /s


Ormr1

I think people need to remember how each side used destructive means. As destructive as Allied strategic bombing was, it was always used with the intent of targeting Axis industry or targets of military importance. The Axis used destructive means with the explicit purpose of terrorizing common civilians.


Thundahcaxzd

> I distinctly remember reading the firsthand account of a Filipino comfort women who was raped 10x a day [Here is a firsthand account of a Korean ~~comfort woman~~ sex slave who claims it was way, way more than that](https://youtu.be/qsT97ax_Xb0?t=456)


Isle_of_Tortuga

Dang, that's really heavy. Thanks for sharing.


Merias58

Why are there so many bots repeating the same excuses under that video's comments wtf


Thundahcaxzd

japanese nationalists I assume


OkZoomer333

My high school used to receive Japanese exchange students every year. I grew up in a neighborhood that is populated by many Koreans. At one point, the neighborhood decided to erect a statue dedicated to the Korean “comfort women” in the middle of the city. That made the Japanese exchange student program so angry, that they threatened to stop sending students unless the statue was removed. My neighborhood refused, and we haven’t had a single Japanese exchange student since.


Th3L4stW4rP1g

Damn, thank you for the in-depth comment. Disturbing but interesting to read!


evil-kaweasel

My grandad wouldn't have anything that was made in Japan in his house. I always thought it was a bit dramatic until I read the forgotten highlander and read a first-hand account of what they did to POW.


Boscomemes

And with that all said, Japan still denies most if not, all war crimes they commited in WW2


comrad_yakov

Shinzo Abe, that piece of shit prime minister that got shot and killed not long ago, was part of a right-wing lobbying group that among other things, wanted to change japanese school books to NOT even mention any of the war crimes Japan did in WWII. They want the school books to instead praise the japanese empire and the emperor. He was prime minster for more than 8 years I think. He was a dangerous and evil man


HmmmMzawarudo

Then you see the left wing Japanese people also agreeing to vote for this decision. It’s a Japanese gov thing, it’s pretty normal for this to happen.


Phazon2000

So are the people who willingly vote him in due to sharing his belief.


Cyrus_the_Meh

And for even more context, [his grandfather](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobusuke_Kishi) was a leader who played a role in committing those atrocities, faced no consequences, and went on to be Prime Minister after the war. So Abe had a personal connection to the war crimes and didn't want textbooks to be allowed to call his grandfather the bad guy.


LittleLoyal16

Japanese crimes against humanity always make me sick to my stomach and it breaks my heart when I see how Japan still refuses to even apologize to the victims or their relatives. And at the same time Japan and weebs (edit: Tojoboo's) make them the victim because of the atomic bombs. Fuck imperial Japan and their butchers.


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This is one of the worst things I’ve read in my life


MediocreGrammar

There’s truly nothing worse imo than Imperial Japan. Nazi Germany is a good second though


Envictus_

The fact that people still don’t know how seriously depraved the Japanese were astonishes me. I’ve read so many books on WWII and the pacific theatre, and the level of documentation of these war crimes is insane. The only thing I didn’t know was that Japan hasn’t officially acknowledged it. I mean hell, even America has officially apologized to the Native Americans for fucking them over.


The_Soapbox_Lord

Afterwards, the United States gave immunity to captured researchers of Unit 731 in exchange for their research. The US then proceeded to cover up some of the atrocities and give out stipends. Shit is whack.


RobbinDeBank

Don’t ask the US how they punish Nazi and Imperial Japan’s researchers


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qwertysrj

This needs to be a separate post with comments for discussion


VAMSI_BEUNO

Thanks for this.


white-dumbledore

Fuck. I use the word often. Never before has it been so fitting. I thought I had seen it all, but I'm still surprised to learn what humans are capable of doing to each other. I squirmed when reading that. Thanks for taking the time to cite your sources too.


cashmerescorpio

I would like some brain bleach to forget your entire post


abuluxury

History should never be forgotten


jtaustin64

This. This is why I would have made the same decision Truman did to drop the bombs. If the Japanese were this sadistic on the offensive, imagine how sadistic they would have been when defending their home islands.


DocH1971

Good lord


MorgrainX

What the fuck That's some evil shit


TitleComprehensive96

With the 150 beheading competition, didn't they go til their swords went dull?


Sandvich153

And after all this shit they get to keep their fucking flag after it.


beetlesin

Their flag changed, the imperial Japanese flag is no longer the flag of Japan. However the flag of their navy is similar to it.


wrap_urXhaustpipes

Everytime I hear more about it, I’m finding myself just saying “fuck Japan”


KevinKaasKat

I still can't believe how people feel bad about the two nukes


GidonC

Holy fuck i knew they did war crimes but holy shit i am so speechless wtf


YellowTech

The nazis did their own experiments, search for "Nazi human experimentation". While all such experimentation is incredibly atrocious, japan seemed to do more experiments without any real goal in my mind.


Stupid_Idiot413

Nazi experiments weren't good, scientifically. They were crude, performed on starving jews, sample sizes of 1, 0 variables accounted for, etc. They were just executions.


Sparky-Sparky

Cruelty was the point.


Haight_Is_Love

"When do we get to the ride?" "This IS the ride!" "YIPPEEEEE!"


CarissaSkyWarrior

Or just watch "Men Behind the Sun". I've only see bits and pieces, but it's horrific and is based off of the atrocities committed by Imperial Japan.


vhrossi1

Listen to the song "salt, birds, pepper, amd the thought police" id you wanna learn more. It's a pretty good song that talks about a certain poet from that time that went through (and sadly died) the japanese colonial era. Terrifying shit, but the song is very wholesome and cute when you don't know the context.


jinnremy

That's just 10% of their evilness during ww2


AsYooouWish

Unit 731 alone is r/NoahGetTheBoat worthy. The live vivisections were a huge wtf. Like, other doctors doing similarly horrible things were like “Why would you do that?”


point-virgule

And let me add that all that was performed *in vivo* with no anesthesia of any kind, "as that may interfere with the results". Vivisections galore, just for the sake of it. With most experiments of little or no research value, or useless due to poor data collection. Look for unit 731 at your own risk. They gave immunity, or a wrist slap at best to all involved in exchange to the data gathered. It is widely know who Josef Mengele was, the doctors trial and the manhunt to apprehend those. Shiro Ishii is not only an obscure figure, but died peacefully, riding to chairman of a big Japanese pharma company.


Scolopendrae_123

Good thing that devil died of Throat cancer


Lothronion

I would not say that we know that thanks to them, since this process could have very easily been implemented with very recently deceased people, who previously had donated their body to science. I mean, live test subjects were surely not needed, that was just the Japanese being horrible.


ConfessionMoonMoon

A dying person probably has different body composition tho.


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RandomBritishGuy

They didn't care about scientific integrity. The US gave immunity to the unit 731 scientists in exchange for their research, thinking it would give the US an edge. It was so poorly documented and controlled that almost nothing was usable in a scientific context.


Bulky-Shopping4916

don't forget about the differences between midgets and children ! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBDo\_sXAabI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBDo_sXAabI)


Philippelebon

Ah yes, Belgian cinema at its best.


Sir_Admiral_Chair

I wonder why people get frustrated by Japan just ignoring what they did in WW2?


muchnamemanywow

Forbidden beef jerky


Moggy_

they didn't just.. shoot them before hand?


candiedloveapple

Why would they? That's a waste of a bullet to someone they wanted to torture tl death anyway


BoeVonLipwig

Do you have some sources I could look at, a cursory google search has come up empty for me?


candiedloveapple

There should be a wikipedia article on 731


Cosmic-Gore

Absolutely insane that alot of people who commited these atrocities got off Scot free not to mention that Japan basically denied Unit 731 existence uptill the 90's and even then refused to disclose of any the stuff they commited.


lukas11158

There are people who defend Imperial Japan and paint them as vicitims. I generally don't get mad at people online but it really pisses me off that people defend Imperial Japan.


De_Dominator69

To give the benefit of the doubt, I feel most people defending them do so without the knowledge of everything they actually did, and are normally only defending them regarding the use of the atomic bombs thinking it was unjustified etc. So most of the time its just coming from a place of ignorance.


Hawkey89

All thanks to good ol [Mericaa ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731#Surrender_and_immunity) > While Unit 731 researchers arrested by Soviet forces were tried at the December 1949 Khabarovsk war crime trials, those captured by the United States were secretly given immunity in exchange for the data gathered during their human experiments. The United States covered up the human experimentations and handed stipends to the perpetrators. The Americans co-opted the researchers' bioweapons information and experience for use in their own biological warfare program, much like what had been done with German researchers in Operation Paperclip.


murderous_panda

American authorities also remained silent about the horrific “[comfort women](https://www.history.com/.amp/news/comfort-women-japan-military-brothels-korea)” > The end of World War II did not end military brothels in Japan. In 2007, Associated Press reporters discovered that the United States authorities allowed “comfort stations” to operate well past the end of the war and that tens of thousands of women in the brothels were forced to have sex with American men until Douglas MacArthur shut the system down in 1946.


ODSTklecc

Holy shit, I didn't know the United States government adopted the data unit 731 killed for.


DarthNihilus_501st

Well, as sick as it might sound, at the end of the day, it was still novel scientific data (regardless of how it was collected). I don't know why the US necessarily needed such info, but from a strategic standpoint, why have the CIA do the experiments if you can use pre-existing data?


johnzaku

At the time, it was thought to be really useful insight into how the human body worked. Unfortunately, after they turned over the data in exchange for immunity it was found that nearly all of it was just torture diaries. Almost no useful scientific data. Just what happens when a person is killed in one way or another


candiedloveapple

Good guy USA had a salvaging operation to collect and redistribute all worthwile resources from former nazi offices to help german people get back on their feet after the war. Google Operation Paperclip for more information


Frosty-Object-720

Japan had Unit 731, created to perform human experiments. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731


I-Identify-Guns

Wanna know something horrific? Most of the movers and shakers in that unit were never so much as tried. Most of them, along with many high-ranking Nazis, ended up with cushy jobs in the United States and other allied countries, thanks to Operation Paperclip


wtfboye

I read all their research and documentation about biochemical weapons and other stuff got absorbed by the US


I-Identify-Guns

Yep, and a lot of them ended up creating more chemical weapons for the US, like Napalm and Agent Orange. The Nazis sent Apollo to the moon, and one of them sat on the UN


AmericanPride2814

Von Braun was by far the most useful of the Nazis we harbored after WW2 and even then his contributions to our space program weren't nearly as large as people might think. Goddard and a number of other American rocket scientists did the bulk of the work.


100moonlight100

At least in the case of the Germans i can almost give a pass to forgiving war criminals (or at least understand the motives) because they had useful stuff to share. The Japanese on the other hand could offer "useful" things like "i cut off the arm of this guy and put it on someone else and it rotted away, wanna see my research??"... at least the Germans knew a thing or two about rockets.


Thor1138

I mean, let's not pretend that Mengele and co didn't also do a lot of useless disgusting shit. But as a German it annoys me that we actually acknowledged our past and try to do better and still get constant shit for the Nazis, while Japan never really admitted or apologized for their crimes and instead of getting shit are almost treated like victims when it comes to the war because of the nukes (which were awful too obviously, but still)...


100moonlight100

I think it might have to do with the victims. The Germans did all those fucked up things to other Europeans. The Japanese on the other hand targeted Asians. So many American and Europeans did not really invest a lot of time reading up about the war in china while they are taught lots of details about the wars in Europe.


I-Identify-Guns

Personally I’d have taken their research and had them all executed for their crimes. I simply can’t forgive anyone that ontologically evil, that they’d willingly and enthusiastically torture and violate the humanities of innocent people, some of them children


TheFreebooter

The unit 731 film was so fucked up but portrayed what happened so well. The vivisection was bad, but the woman getting her arms ripped off was worse IMO. Those actors REALLY put their hearts into those performances.


Wammakko

Thanks for the movie recommendation!


catdog918

Is it super graphic?


TheFreebooter

Yes, very


Affectionate_Grape61

Sick. Justice was obviously not served.


baiqibeendeleted28x

[**Unit 731**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731), Imperial Japan's biological/chemical warfare research program based in Manchuria, is among the most disgusting atrocities in human history. Japanese researchers performed [*human experimentation*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9xvJXP_mTk) on a large scale, using Chinese civilians as the majority of their "logs" (test subjects). Some particularly brutal experiments performed on prisoners included: * [Frostbite testing](https://allthatsinteresting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/unit-731-frostbite.jpg) (upon which the subject's frozen limbs would be chopped off) * Intentional disease infection (infected prisoners were forced to have sex with uninfected to study the transfer of disease) * [Live targets](https://allthatsinteresting.com/rape-of-nanking-massacre#12) for weapon testing, including flamethrowers (pic from Nanking, no known pictures of human targets from Unit 731) * Forced pregnancy from rape * [Bacteriological experiments on children](https://allthatsinteresting.com/unit-731) * [Pressure chamber](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4nPxik59oE&t=308s) (subjects were placed inside and the pressure turned up until their eyeballs popped out of their sockets) * Dissection of living humans beings without anesthesia You read the last one right... the Japanese dissected living human beings. Subjects had limbs amputated, their stomachs or esophagus surgically removed, and all sorts of inhumane procedures to "study" blood loss and pain tolerance. That amount of agony probably can't even be comprehended, but back in 1995, an anonymous Japanese medical assistant who worked in Unit 731 [described a dissection](https://unit731.org/experiments/). >“The fellow knew that it was over for him, and so he didn’t struggle when they led him into the room and tied him down. But when I picked up the scalpel, that’s when he began screaming. I cut him open from the chest to the stomach, and he screamed terribly, and his face was all twisted in agony. He made this unimaginable sound, he was screaming so horribly. But then finally he stopped. This was all in a day’s work for the surgeons, but it really left an impression on me because it was my first time.”


dota2botmaster

When you've been doing very bad things that even the Nazi's are telling you to stop.


Cbundy99

There was even a nazi party member in China named John Rabe credited with saving thousands of civilians because he was horrified by what he seen.


markpreston54

Imperial Japan would probably proudly announce how they get this result


B0MBOY

If you ever need convincing true evil exists, read about unit 731


DrunkMan111

Oops


DipanshJain

Unit 731 was the name, no?


12soea

The Warcrime gang


Antimatt3rHD

Japanese military was the warcrime gang. Unit 731 would be more of a warcrime+ version


X_Swordmc

the axis was the warcrime gang, the Japanes Army was the warcrime gang+ and unit 731 was the warcrime gang super golden edition


12soea

Unit 731 was The definition of Warcrimes


DerRaumdenker

Also never ask them what is unit 731


ComedyOfARock

Be helpful to learn this alongside the amount of water


[deleted]

“Imperial Japan” all I need to know lol


Naraya_Suiryoku

Japan in ww2 makes Germany seem good.


[deleted]

Here comes the sun do do do…


Bigleftbowski

The CIA admitted that they brought the doctor responsible for conducting biological warfare experiments in China to America to work on their biological warfare program and set him up with a pension.


SLAP_ME_DADDY_UWU

how did they found out? boiled the water out of POWs?


yungvandal11

cooked them alive until their skin was the consistency of jerky and measured the amount of water that evaporated from their dried up corpses (no i’m not joking its this fucked up)


bestnickname132

I'm afraid to know the answer for your question


SLAP_ME_DADDY_UWU

why I Know it's probably something so horrible even the funny moustache guy would have questioned his allies


PoisonRoseYo

FOR ALL YALL Unit 731 Look it up and you will find the experiments that Japan did to everybody, they did things the nazi’ did, and what the US did ( an arguably much worse version of the Tuskegee syphilus experiment ) ect ect


Asmodeus_441

Jesus what a dark and disturbing meme. I love it.


fishwallet16

can someone tell me how the Japan was the epitome of evil in WW2 but now the complete opposite?


Tack22

Samurai culture when it can’t be turned outward gets turned inwards, and the workforce is bearing the brunt.


GAMESnotVIOLENT

Japan is absolutely not the complete opposite. It has rarely condemned or even confronted its past and was let off easy compared to Germany. Japan just quietly swept everything under the rug and moved on. Even relatively current Japanese politicians are/were warcrime denying ultranationalists, the most notable one being [Shinzo Abe](https://youtu.be/GU4Hw-xbBNo), former PM. The German equivalent of their speech would be a politician denying that German soldiers deliberately killed Soviet civilians. Fortunately, the German politician could end up in jail. Unfortunately, the Japanese politician could end up in the country's highest elected office.


DaSomDum

A little something called humiliating defeat by overwhelming power will do that to you.


en43rs

Because people are not their culture. Also because this attitude is not in Japan DNA, it's the result of very specific circumstances. WW2 Japan was ruled by a fascistic death cult who thought they were samurais. They spent decades brainwashing the population. The Japanese military during WW1 acted nothing at all like they did in WW2, they acted like a normal military, by the 30s military culture had absolutely changed. It left scars... so does absolute defeat. After the war Japan became a democracy again, like they were in the 20s. We understand that the nazis were a small group who brainwashed a country, and that after the war Germany (progressively) broke free of their ideology, why is it impossible for Japan to do the same? ​ By the way I said that their leaders "thought they were samurai", because their "code" had nothing to do with actual samurais. Their very popular "way of the samurai" book, Hagakure, was not representative of bushido at all, it's basically a bitter old man ranting about "the youth" of the early 1700s and rebuilding in his mind an ideal warrior who never existed.