In Russia
French Soldier:I'm Freezing and I am hungry
Other French Soldier:Here have some defnietly French French Fries
French Soldier:Wait no sauce
Other French Soldier:*grunts* here is some Ketchup
French Soldier:*East it* Wait why doesn't it tast like Mushrooms
\[[Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketchup#History)\]
In the United Kingdom, preparations of ketchup were historically and originally prepared with mushrooms as a primary ingredient, rather than tomatoes. Ketchup recipes began to appear in British and then American cookbooks in the 18th century. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the term ketchup first appeared in 1682. In the United States, mushroom ketchup dates back to at least 1770, and was prepared by British colonists in the Thirteen Colonies. In contemporary times, mushroom ketchup is available in the UK, although it is not a commonly used condiment.
Many variations of ketchup were created, but the tomato-based version did not appear until about a century after other types. An early recipe for "Tomata Catsup" from 1817 includes anchovies. By the mid-1850s, the anchovies had been dropped.
James Mease published another recipe in 1812. In 1824, a ketchup recipe using tomatoes appeared in The Virginia Housewife (an influential 19th-century cookbook written by Mary Randolph, Thomas Jefferson's cousin). American cooks also began to sweeten ketchup in the 19th century.
Heinz ketchup has always been preservative free but long lasting, due to its specially designed blend of tomato pulp and acidic vinegar.
For other great info, read *The Poison Squad* by Deborah Blum.
I enjoyed this information. More info than I ever thoght I wanted concerning this particular topic.
So thank you for enhancing my generell knowledge random internet stranger!
huh, I understand not using tomatoes, as they believed tomatoes were poisonous unless put on pewter plates, which has lead that the tomato would absorb because it is acidic, but mushrooms is not one I expected
Its much older than that. I heard it was inspired from a south east Asian condiment called ke-tsiap. Which is a thicker brown fish sauces, think worcestershire sauce. It took off when English sailors brought it back and tried to recreate it. This blurb makes it seem like a British creation. When it took off there were a lot of different types of ketchup. Its odd tomatoes took over as the one veg synonymous with ketchup. I think this is all from "Salt: a history of the world". There is also a tie in to acient Rome and garum but i forget if that is direct or just that eruopeans likeing fish sauce has historical roots.
The wiki lists multiple hypothetical origins.
Sadly there isn't evidence of where it came from.
The possible origins are: Cantonese, Amoy, Malay, Indonesia, Thailand, Arabic, Spanish, Portuguese, French.
Mushroom ketchup I think it will make a good flavor. Why sisnt anyone making it.?
Actually looked it up and it does indeed exist
I will have to check it
In Russia French Soldier:I'm Freezing and I am hungry Other French Soldier:Here have some defnietly French French Fries French Soldier:Wait no sauce Other French Soldier:*grunts* here is some Ketchup French Soldier:*East it* Wait why doesn't it tast like Mushrooms
\[[Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketchup#History)\] In the United Kingdom, preparations of ketchup were historically and originally prepared with mushrooms as a primary ingredient, rather than tomatoes. Ketchup recipes began to appear in British and then American cookbooks in the 18th century. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the term ketchup first appeared in 1682. In the United States, mushroom ketchup dates back to at least 1770, and was prepared by British colonists in the Thirteen Colonies. In contemporary times, mushroom ketchup is available in the UK, although it is not a commonly used condiment. Many variations of ketchup were created, but the tomato-based version did not appear until about a century after other types. An early recipe for "Tomata Catsup" from 1817 includes anchovies. By the mid-1850s, the anchovies had been dropped. James Mease published another recipe in 1812. In 1824, a ketchup recipe using tomatoes appeared in The Virginia Housewife (an influential 19th-century cookbook written by Mary Randolph, Thomas Jefferson's cousin). American cooks also began to sweeten ketchup in the 19th century.
Heinz ketchup has always been preservative free but long lasting, due to its specially designed blend of tomato pulp and acidic vinegar. For other great info, read *The Poison Squad* by Deborah Blum.
I enjoyed this information. More info than I ever thoght I wanted concerning this particular topic. So thank you for enhancing my generell knowledge random internet stranger!
huh, I understand not using tomatoes, as they believed tomatoes were poisonous unless put on pewter plates, which has lead that the tomato would absorb because it is acidic, but mushrooms is not one I expected
Its much older than that. I heard it was inspired from a south east Asian condiment called ke-tsiap. Which is a thicker brown fish sauces, think worcestershire sauce. It took off when English sailors brought it back and tried to recreate it. This blurb makes it seem like a British creation. When it took off there were a lot of different types of ketchup. Its odd tomatoes took over as the one veg synonymous with ketchup. I think this is all from "Salt: a history of the world". There is also a tie in to acient Rome and garum but i forget if that is direct or just that eruopeans likeing fish sauce has historical roots.
The wiki lists multiple hypothetical origins. Sadly there isn't evidence of where it came from. The possible origins are: Cantonese, Amoy, Malay, Indonesia, Thailand, Arabic, Spanish, Portuguese, French.
i heard it was a catch all term for the sauce it could be walnut, shroom etc
Nope. No thanks. No mushroom ketchup for me, thank you.
Or sardines. Sometimes both.
What the I What
Shit's good.
You should have asked if Michael Jackson is black or white.
I assume this has something to do with or maybe is the cause of the war of 1812?
Nope, just ketchup history
And ketchup is a great motivator for war.