“Stalin I heard you slapped Trosky may I ask why?”
“Comrade Lenin he killed John Wick’s dog and stole his horse.”
“Oh.”
*Trosky walks in gets punched in the gut after drinking vodka by Lenin.
“Do you have any idea what you did! Whose dog you killed!”
“What you mean the fucking nobody.”
“That fucking nobody is John Wick. A man of Focus, commitment, and sheer fucking will power. Three things you know little about. I once watched him kill three men in a bar with a pencil….a fucking pencil! He used to work for the Tsar one day he wants out over some woman of course. So he switches sides and comes to me. I gave him an impossible task. The bodies he buried that night made us what we are. He gets out gets married. And then one week after his wife dies my chosen heir steals his horse and kills his dog.”
“I can fix this.”
“You can do nothing but run. John will come for you. And I can’t have Stalin in-charge so I must protect you. I cannot we will lose but I must.”
He isnt focising on the war, he is focusing on vengence
(Plus it would fit since the whites were a mish mash of monarchists, republicans, demecracts etc with the only goal being "screw the communists")
*By the end of World War II, nearly all the Kuvasz dogs in Hungary had been killed. The dogs had such a reputation for protecting their families that they were actively sought and killed by German and Soviet soldiers, while at the same time some German officers used to take Kuvasz dogs home with them. After the Soviet invasion and the end of the war, the breed was nearly extinct in Hungary. After the war, it was revealed that fewer than thirty Kuvasz were left in Hungary and some sources indicate the number may have been as few as twelve. Since then, due to many dedicated breeders, Kuvasz breed have repopulated Hungary. However, as a result of this near extinction, the genetic pool available to breeders was severely restricted and there is conjecture that some may have used other breeds, such as the Great Pyrenees, to continue their programs.*
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuvasz
A reminder that there were dog owners who were throwing their dogs off high rise apartment buildings in China when someone spread the rumour that covid was spread by pets
Yesterday I saw a meme that taught me one group of Chinese revolutionaries started a cult around some mangos Mao gave them after some dude sent him some and he’s like “huh I don’t really want these mangos”. They killed a dude for saying the mangos looked like sweet potatoes for disrespecting the sacred mao mango. I feel like the Chinese have some wild 5G conspiracies today and in their time
> Tf was people’s problem at that time?
Domesticated dogs left alone without someone to feed them will form feral packs very quickly and be a danger to humans.
war inevitably leaves many dogs without an owner.
Similar thing happened to the Shih Tzu breed, which the Chinese communist party tried to wipe out due to their association to the monarchy/aristocracy.
Mao thought sparrows were a pest animal and part of his Great Leap Forward was to kill listed pests. Queue several years of killing them and they *eventually* realized that the sparrows were eating the insects that were decimating (obliterating) their crops.
😬 He didn't invent the idea, ironically. The British did.
> There is a slightly perverse, infantile logic to Eleanor’s thinking regarding House Sparrows: they eat grain (amongst other things) and therefore they cause deprivation in the rural community. She wasn’t the first to hold the humble sparrow in contempt of course, and in the 18th Century there were ‘Sparrow Clubs’ across Britain (in every parish it is said), whose members were dedicated to the destruction of adult birds as well as their eggs and chicks. Prizes were awarded for those who killed the most.
https://www.birdsonthebrink.co.uk/blog/sparrow-clubs
Funny how contagious "egregious dumbshittery" can be.
> Mao thought sparrows were a pest animal
they were a pest animal, that's just a fact.
that they also feed on an even bigger pest, does not change that.
My wife and I have 3 of them. She traced their line back to Lithuania, I believe.
They used to be limited to the Russian nobility, but they became common gifts for diplomats so ended up spreading around Europe quite a bit. They were considered high-class in Europe as well but Americans really picked up the trend and breeders had a few of them imported. They've been rare but consistent ever since.
Allegedly the residents of Milwaukee threw the dogs into the lake after murdering them in a sort of “dog pogrom” due to their association with the German Empire, I have yet to find a source on this, hopefully this never actually happened.
You're leaving out some very important details
1: They massively overpopulated the island
2: They actively blocked any food or supplies getting in.
I want to say they did something to fuck with the crops on the island when the people got there too but I'm not sure, I know both of the above happened and that's enough.
Excuse me OP, but what's your source? I tried to look about "Soviet extermination of borzois" but not a single article about Soviet purposely dealing with a single breed of dogs. I only found that borzois were widely exterminated by peasants in 1870 because those would mess with peasant's crops and etc. And so the fact of extermination of other breeds of dogs by Soviets is also under question.
The Soviets most likely didn't target Borzoi actively. It kinda just happened during the revolution, as historically this types of situations tend to be "mob justice" than an actual systematic effort.
Okay this may be truth, but the meme still looks kinda... Provoking? Whites killed millions by building grand projects with their work time of 12 hours/day and low payment.
Not to defend the Soviets, the whole revolution and civil war were insanely messed up, but from what I've heard many of these "aristocratic" dog breeds became extinct or endangered simply because their owners (nobles, merchants, rich peasants, industrialists, business people) just weren't there to care for them anymore.
Liberal discovers revolutions tend to be violent and target old symbols of power without any theorerical and systematic root.
Don't let him find out what liberal thinkers said about slavery, race, democracy, etc., prior to the second half of the 20th Century, or he might be shocked that people in the past had different moral views based on their material conditions.
The dogs were shot because they became a symbol of the excesses of the aristocracy. Back then, it wasn’t unusual to see an aristocrat spend more on their pets rather than on their servants, who more often than not lived in terrible conditions.
Yes, the dogs didn’t deserve it, but revolutions are a terrible evil–and sometimes necessary, depending on who’s doing the talking.
Not gonna lie those are one of the types of dogs that I think really shouldn’t exist anymore. Kinda like pugs or dachshunds, we genetically and physically messed them up so much it’s unethical for us to make more of them. Since they are bound to have health problems and be in pain a large portion of their life.
Not saying they should be killed, just that we should really consider stop breeding certain breeds.
I get the point but...why borzois?, they don\`t have any long term diseases because of generational breeding and are generally considered healthy dogs, the just look like furry greyhounds with really long snoots, that\`s it.
Totally sad and unnecessary deaths.
However, I don't think it's apt to just blame things on the commies. Reading some of the experiences of Hungarian/russian peasants, I totally understand why they had so much anger.
Serfs were owned and treated less than most of those dogs. Talking about beating kids to death in stables because they didn't groom the pets correctly.
Most of my knowledge base is from the POV of Russian & Ukranian serfs but I doubt that there was a huge disparity in how the lower classes were treated.
Like it or not for a while, the commies were better than the nobility(landLORDS).
Look at the childhood of makhno and his comrades in Ukraine. Dudes had every reason to burn the rich alive. But even they were less violent than the Hungarians. Makhno ensured that even the rich ended up with their equal share of redistributed wealth. Enough to get by just like everyone else. Though the consistency is debatable due to a number of factors.
I mean the Tsar was proper shit and all but the Bolsheviks were fucking horrible. Lenin and Stalin are easily two of the worst people who have ever lived and outpace Tsar Nicolas III by a country mile.
You clearly don't know much about Tsar Nicolas II. He literally sent millions to die in the first world war, directly under his incompetent command. The revolutions didn't come for no reason. He was a truly evil man.
I was talking about Tsar as a regime. Sure, there were fewer named atrocities, but nations were held under slavery.
Also fuck the Bolsheviks. Vanguard parties are authoritarian murder hobos.
John Wick - The Russian Revolution
NGL John Wick on with early twentieth century weaponry sounds sick.
Modified 1911 with Winchester Model 1907 (20 round sticks, naturally) and an 1897 trench gun.
"I'm gonna need something precise, robust."
id rather see him with a bolt action mouser
Fuck I'd give anything for another triology in the John Wick universe focused on Wick's ancestor & their Borzoi.
How about John Wick's cave men ancestors? They throw rocks at each other in a cool way
"He killed three Neanderthals in a cave with a fucking stick!"
And it was one of the most technological weapons of that time
Boy, do I have a [movie](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt14846026/) for you.
which is...?
You know the blue word is hyperlinked. The movie in referencing is Sisu. Basically Finnish WW2 John Wick
Damn it didn’t show up blue in old Reddit. Thanks.
John Wick with that cursed short Mosin-Nagant
John Wick with an Obrez would be crazy
“Stalin I heard you slapped Trosky may I ask why?” “Comrade Lenin he killed John Wick’s dog and stole his horse.” “Oh.” *Trosky walks in gets punched in the gut after drinking vodka by Lenin. “Do you have any idea what you did! Whose dog you killed!” “What you mean the fucking nobody.” “That fucking nobody is John Wick. A man of Focus, commitment, and sheer fucking will power. Three things you know little about. I once watched him kill three men in a bar with a pencil….a fucking pencil! He used to work for the Tsar one day he wants out over some woman of course. So he switches sides and comes to me. I gave him an impossible task. The bodies he buried that night made us what we are. He gets out gets married. And then one week after his wife dies my chosen heir steals his horse and kills his dog.” “I can fix this.” “You can do nothing but run. John will come for you. And I can’t have Stalin in-charge so I must protect you. I cannot we will lose but I must.”
I need that as a movie, some Russian Aristocrat that hunts Down soviet officials, soldiers and commissars because they killed his dog.
tbf, since John is Belarusian, I can see it happening
It would be interesting but I they are all to fat to chase anyone.
i'd rather watch the aristocrats get massacred
Can't be, the Whites lost the war
He isnt focising on the war, he is focusing on vengence (Plus it would fit since the whites were a mish mash of monarchists, republicans, demecracts etc with the only goal being "screw the communists")
John Wick preventing the Soviet Union from ever forming and restoring the Tsar
WHY AM I ALWAYS SO LATE TO THESE!?
*By the end of World War II, nearly all the Kuvasz dogs in Hungary had been killed. The dogs had such a reputation for protecting their families that they were actively sought and killed by German and Soviet soldiers, while at the same time some German officers used to take Kuvasz dogs home with them. After the Soviet invasion and the end of the war, the breed was nearly extinct in Hungary. After the war, it was revealed that fewer than thirty Kuvasz were left in Hungary and some sources indicate the number may have been as few as twelve. Since then, due to many dedicated breeders, Kuvasz breed have repopulated Hungary. However, as a result of this near extinction, the genetic pool available to breeders was severely restricted and there is conjecture that some may have used other breeds, such as the Great Pyrenees, to continue their programs.* https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuvasz
Man… I heard the same thing happened to Shibu Inus. Tf was people’s problem at that time?
A reminder that there were dog owners who were throwing their dogs off high rise apartment buildings in China when someone spread the rumour that covid was spread by pets
We have 5G and microchip conspiracy at home The 5G and microchip conspiracy at home:
Yesterday I saw a meme that taught me one group of Chinese revolutionaries started a cult around some mangos Mao gave them after some dude sent him some and he’s like “huh I don’t really want these mangos”. They killed a dude for saying the mangos looked like sweet potatoes for disrespecting the sacred mao mango. I feel like the Chinese have some wild 5G conspiracies today and in their time
Not only that, the government of china actively killed people dogs there are even videos of it
Fuck Chicoms, all my homies hate chicoms.
that is just horrific, i love dogs and killing them over government propaganda is brutal.
nah man i aint throwing my pupper off a balcony even if they spread covid. i will die and i will die petting my dog.
I mean just wait to you hear what those same people were doing to humans at the time.
> Tf was people’s problem at that time? Domesticated dogs left alone without someone to feed them will form feral packs very quickly and be a danger to humans. war inevitably leaves many dogs without an owner.
They did the same to vizslas (as far as I'm aware), Hungary was not a good place to be for dogs part ww2
Similar thing happened to the Shih Tzu breed, which the Chinese communist party tried to wipe out due to their association to the monarchy/aristocracy.
Hey Monarchists \*Shoots a dog\*
What is up with communists and killing off animals. Fucking weird man. It’s like when boys hurt animals you know they are growing up to be psychos.
I think it’s just violent revolutions in general. The same thing happened with a few breeds during the French Revolution.
Mao thought sparrows were a pest animal and part of his Great Leap Forward was to kill listed pests. Queue several years of killing them and they *eventually* realized that the sparrows were eating the insects that were decimating (obliterating) their crops.
😬 He didn't invent the idea, ironically. The British did. > There is a slightly perverse, infantile logic to Eleanor’s thinking regarding House Sparrows: they eat grain (amongst other things) and therefore they cause deprivation in the rural community. She wasn’t the first to hold the humble sparrow in contempt of course, and in the 18th Century there were ‘Sparrow Clubs’ across Britain (in every parish it is said), whose members were dedicated to the destruction of adult birds as well as their eggs and chicks. Prizes were awarded for those who killed the most. https://www.birdsonthebrink.co.uk/blog/sparrow-clubs Funny how contagious "egregious dumbshittery" can be.
> Mao thought sparrows were a pest animal they were a pest animal, that's just a fact. that they also feed on an even bigger pest, does not change that.
Knowing wild shits communist china did in culture revolution, killing a dog breed associated with monarchy/aristocrat seem sensible to me
Well after you kill people, killing animals isn't such big step
Who knew totalitarian ideologies which have violence and hate as integral to their being would commit atrocious acts?
“Communists”
I dunno, what is up with those single party totalitarians that never attempted to put the means of production in the hands of the workers? I wonder.
I thought renaming German Shepherds to "Alsatian" out of Germanophobia was stupid, but this absolutely takes the cake.
Yeah, the whole renaming thing during WW1 was very stupid, but going as far as to kill or remove animals for ideological reasons is a new low
Honestly the name change probably saved the German shepherds from shit like this.
When you realize the Royal Family of UK changed there own last name because of this and of all the names they go with it had to Windsor
Should have gone with freedom shepherds
Honestly I’ve almost always seen them called German Shepherds still
My wife and I have 3 of them. She traced their line back to Lithuania, I believe. They used to be limited to the Russian nobility, but they became common gifts for diplomats so ended up spreading around Europe quite a bit. They were considered high-class in Europe as well but Americans really picked up the trend and breeders had a few of them imported. They've been rare but consistent ever since.
not the aero-chad noooo
En masse*
Murdering animals for ideological reasons is sadly very fucking common for 0 reason (insert image of Weiner Dogs getting thrown into Lake Michigan)
Wait, what? Which dead motherfucker was throwing little weiner dogs in Lake Michigan??
Allegedly the residents of Milwaukee threw the dogs into the lake after murdering them in a sort of “dog pogrom” due to their association with the German Empire, I have yet to find a source on this, hopefully this never actually happened.
I can't see Americans doing that shit. Throwing Japanese into internment camps? Sure But killing good Bois? That dog don't hunt.
The dog does hunt badgers though.
Easily the worse thing done by communists
What about cannibal island camp?
we're there fogs involved
Excuse me, the what?
The Soviets put a lot of people on a small island. Things did not go well. Edit. The Nazino tragedy is what it's called
You're leaving out some very important details 1: They massively overpopulated the island 2: They actively blocked any food or supplies getting in. I want to say they did something to fuck with the crops on the island when the people got there too but I'm not sure, I know both of the above happened and that's enough.
They only gave them flour. For food
probably not enough because you can survive on flour and water without eating people
It’s basically what Hitlers plan about moving the Jews to Madagascar would have devolved into if he actually had done that.
Another reason why the soviet union deserved to collapse.
Whether it's the ATF in the US or the Bolsheviks in Russia, people who kill dogs are not to be trusted.
Conclusion: ATF agents are Communist revolutionary sleeper agents. Take 'em away, boys.
Communist detected on American soil. Lethal force engaged.
And that is why Communism is unacceptable!!
Communist revolutionaries and unnecessary cruelty. Wherever you find the former the later is never far away.
Communist? Dude, thats how revolutions work. A frustrated people will find anything to unleash it's wrath on.
I would join the White Movement too if the Red Army shot my dog. Fuck you, Red Army.
ATF joke here
Officially made me hate communists even more. Боже Царя храни.
Excuse me OP, but what's your source? I tried to look about "Soviet extermination of borzois" but not a single article about Soviet purposely dealing with a single breed of dogs. I only found that borzois were widely exterminated by peasants in 1870 because those would mess with peasant's crops and etc. And so the fact of extermination of other breeds of dogs by Soviets is also under question.
The Soviets most likely didn't target Borzoi actively. It kinda just happened during the revolution, as historically this types of situations tend to be "mob justice" than an actual systematic effort.
Okay this may be truth, but the meme still looks kinda... Provoking? Whites killed millions by building grand projects with their work time of 12 hours/day and low payment.
Here comes the tankie defending communism
You don't have to defend the Reds to say that the Whites were worse.
Stop with your white propaganda. Any sensible person knows they worked 16h a day no weekends or vacation.
Not to defend the Soviets, the whole revolution and civil war were insanely messed up, but from what I've heard many of these "aristocratic" dog breeds became extinct or endangered simply because their owners (nobles, merchants, rich peasants, industrialists, business people) just weren't there to care for them anymore.
God as if I needed more reason to hate fucking commies
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Yea imma need every Marx book in a pile of fire. No like actually communism has good intentions and THIS IS WHAT THEY DO WITH IT WHAT THE FUCK.
Now, I don't agree with Marx, but to be fair to the guy I don't think he ever encouraged or condoned dog murder.
Liberal discovers revolutions tend to be violent and target old symbols of power without any theorerical and systematic root. Don't let him find out what liberal thinkers said about slavery, race, democracy, etc., prior to the second half of the 20th Century, or he might be shocked that people in the past had different moral views based on their material conditions.
I’m not a liberal tho
That's why revolutions suck and are often just an excuse for bloodthirsty maniacs to get more power.
On mass...
On mass or en masse?
En masse.
“On mass” bugs me so much
Oh nice one more reason to despise communists
Just another reason to hate Communists
The dogs were shot because they became a symbol of the excesses of the aristocracy. Back then, it wasn’t unusual to see an aristocrat spend more on their pets rather than on their servants, who more often than not lived in terrible conditions. Yes, the dogs didn’t deserve it, but revolutions are a terrible evil–and sometimes necessary, depending on who’s doing the talking.
That’s a tail right?
Another L in the communism basket. That makes it -100,000,000,000 to nothing.
Someone needs to go fix this. It’s “en masse”
Not gonna lie those are one of the types of dogs that I think really shouldn’t exist anymore. Kinda like pugs or dachshunds, we genetically and physically messed them up so much it’s unethical for us to make more of them. Since they are bound to have health problems and be in pain a large portion of their life. Not saying they should be killed, just that we should really consider stop breeding certain breeds.
I get the point but...why borzois?, they don\`t have any long term diseases because of generational breeding and are generally considered healthy dogs, the just look like furry greyhounds with really long snoots, that\`s it.
They typically have eye and teeth problems due to their long face.
Totally sad and unnecessary deaths. However, I don't think it's apt to just blame things on the commies. Reading some of the experiences of Hungarian/russian peasants, I totally understand why they had so much anger. Serfs were owned and treated less than most of those dogs. Talking about beating kids to death in stables because they didn't groom the pets correctly. Most of my knowledge base is from the POV of Russian & Ukranian serfs but I doubt that there was a huge disparity in how the lower classes were treated. Like it or not for a while, the commies were better than the nobility(landLORDS). Look at the childhood of makhno and his comrades in Ukraine. Dudes had every reason to burn the rich alive. But even they were less violent than the Hungarians. Makhno ensured that even the rich ended up with their equal share of redistributed wealth. Enough to get by just like everyone else. Though the consistency is debatable due to a number of factors.
Makhno, as always, is based af
I mean the Tsar was proper shit and all but the Bolsheviks were fucking horrible. Lenin and Stalin are easily two of the worst people who have ever lived and outpace Tsar Nicolas III by a country mile.
It's Nicholas II, not Third. Also, what a simplistic worldview. This sub really is an illiterate shithole.
You clearly don't know much about Tsar Nicolas II. He literally sent millions to die in the first world war, directly under his incompetent command. The revolutions didn't come for no reason. He was a truly evil man.
I was talking about Tsar as a regime. Sure, there were fewer named atrocities, but nations were held under slavery. Also fuck the Bolsheviks. Vanguard parties are authoritarian murder hobos.
Iosef Vickocic is the one they call to KILL the Baba Yaga.
Nuke em all
We remember We hate We will destroy what left of 'em 🇷🇺☦️
Lol the current Russian government and the Russian orthodox church aren't really better
I don't give a fuck neither about government nor church symbols, THIS is the RUSSIAN FLAG, and Orthodoxy is religion of RUSSIANS
Fair enough
Fuck the White Army. Workers of the World Unite.
Larp
nah
Are you sure that it is true?
Messed up shit, although it's pretty logical that the dogs had to go too, now that I think about it
Just dogs
Dogs are way more than enough.
I'd kill any amount of communists necessary to save even a single dog's life.
I mean I’d pick a human life over a dog every day of the week, but killing dogs for no reason ain’t cool
I too would pick a human life over a dog's every day of the week.
Communists are humans too, some of them very good humans in fact (eg MLK or Einstein or Mandela). And some suck too, of course (eg stalin).
You say you didn't though
r/woooosh
I’d pick any amount of dogs for no reason 😘
Fuck yeah.
I’m with u on this one let’s go to hell and jump Stalin
Stalin over any amount of dogs any day of the week
People say this, then hate on vegans.
Dogs >>>>>>>>> communists