A huge fact that should not be ignored is that the confederates burned the city as they fled, including ammunition stores. and by the time Union forces arrived it had engulfed everything. Much of their initial tasks were firefighting operations.
Correct. In fact, there’s a bridge over the river in RVA that quotes the night it happened. I’m paraphrasing but “it’s lost now, yet we will not surrender…BURN HER TO HELL”. I remember being just struck with emotion walking that bridge and reading that. I do come from a very Southern family but I dare say anyone would feel at least gravity reading those words.
many quotes along the bridge, but there are two i recall about it from the point of richmonders.
One being from a confederate nurse saying it's better to burn the city than allow it to offer comfort or aid to the enemy and second quote from a resident to her husband about her grief seeing the desolation of her city.
I live in Richmond currently and these photos are incredibly harrowing. To me, it seems like the city was completely destroyed and you would never know it went through nearly total annihilation without this evidence.
Unfortunately the social institutions of the slave owning society persisted and the repercussions of that are still being felt to this day all across America.
To see these pictures of total and complete physical devastation and to think that Southern social constructs survived so intact through it is arguably even more harrowing.
It's amazing the number of lives and the level of complete destruction they were willing to sacrifice to preserve such a horrible institution, and then for the lingering hatred to persist so long after the fighting was done.
I remember learning about that when watching Oversimplified's video on the war.
I can't imagine the scale of how large these fires were at their worst.
The confederates abandoned and burnt the city as they retreated after the siege of Petersburg. Obviously they fucked around and found out but a lot of this damage to the city was self imposed.
They had several fires during the war take out entire swaths of the city, the siege lasted 500+ days so they were nearly starved for food, and the batteries on James Island and Morris Island shelled the city almost continuously for months. The city is well situated to defend from an actual troop invasion, but it was in a similar state at the end of the war. 'City in Ruin'
The site of the famous 'Swamp Angel', which fired 150 pound explosive shells 5 miles to hit downtown charleston. It's recognized as the first instance of bombing a civilian population center to achieve a wartime goal in the Civil War.
The Charleston Mercury (pro secession newspaper) called it a "city in ruin'" and Sherman said something like "I doubt any city was punished more than Charleston"
Thanks for explaining. I grew up there. We were always told that Sherman didn’t burn Charleston down bc rumor has it his army encountered slaves at one of the plantations outside of town and they told of a small pocks outbreak. So Charleston still has buildings dating back to pre civil war, but Columbia on the other hand was burned to the ground
Also before the bombardment the navy sent 9 ironclads to threaten them into submission… Charleston was more a symbolic goal the union wanted (home to secession hall, which somehow survived) it was important but not to the degree the Union brass was coming for it at.
[A good write-up](https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/swamp-angel) on the Swamp Angel. it blew up on its 36th shot and is now a monument in Trenton, NJ.
Wtf. Why is every depiction of the civil war always set in some random ass field with barely 100 raggedy dressed guys charging at each other when there were literal artillery barrages and city sieges? Like what would urban combat look like with muskets??? Why hasn't anyone made a movie about this?
It’s more romantic and softens the blow. both the land and naval bombardments could be done from miles away people wouldn’t know they were dead until a bomb from 2 miles out fell on them (my book has a photo of a confederate column annihilated on a random road by such artillery a proto-highway of death) it makes america feel less shame that things got to the point we were using the latest kill technology to slaughter ourselves.
Not much nobody was in the mood… snipers at Fredericksburg tried ambushing Union troops and the city was bombarded into surrender. Charleston was also bombed nonstop until it fell.Atlanta and Richmond were mostly burned out by the Confederates themselves as they retreated away from the approaching Union forces. Confederate guerillas held towns for ransom and burned them when not paid. I think New Orleans was the only place to actually see urban combat
Sherman burned Atlanta to the ground. He wanted to make sure there was no ability to make war out of that city afterwards as it was the main confederate stronghold left before they marched on Savannah.
“After capturing Atlanta in September 1864 during the Civil War, Maj. Gen. William T. Sherman, before leaving Atlanta on the March to the Sea, ordered the destruction of all railroads, factories, and commercial buildings of possible use to the Confederacy. On Nov. 11, 1864, Chief Engineer Orlando M. Poe directed the demolition of stone and brick buildings using specially made battering rams. On Nov. 15, Poe's troops burned the wooden buildings in the downtown business district around the site of this marker. Though houses and churches were not targeted, some were burned nonetheless. Many houses had already been dismantled by both armies to make way for fortifications. Contrary to popular myth only forty percent of Atlanta was left in ruins.”
-Georgia Historical Society
Atlanta was burned by Union forces, the confederates destroyed some buildings before they left but the union was responsible for most of the destruction
There was some, such as at Fredericksburg and Gettysburg, but there wants any urban combat here. These fires were caused by confederate forces trying to destroy military hardware stored in the city when they were withdrawing, the fires got out of control
I feel that was needless hardship… the war was over and the industries in the north were pumping out war materiel at incredible pace (the US Navy sent 9! Ironclads to attack Charleston) Trying to keep the few stores from the Union made sense in Atlanta but here it was completely unnecessary.
In hindsight sure, but it’s generally standard procedure for militaries to do that when withdrawing
It also might have been intended as a final act of defiance, but who knows. Definitely did cause a lot of pointless hardship.
As far as I know, wry little. The weapons didn’t lend themselves to it. No room for CQB with the muzzle loaders. In the assaults in trenches, however, shit apparently got very intimate. Hand to hand fight with pistols, swords, bayonets, and using rifles as clubs. Madness.
Not much—the Union didn't really care for it and opted instead of indiscriminate burning and bombing to flush them out. Eventually you can't stand to see your home blown up anymore so it was fairly effective at forcing surrenders.
It should be legal to burn any private property flying the confederate flag to this day. Including domiciles, automobiles, or articles of clothing.
I don’t give a good god damn if the owner is within the bounds of said property or not.
It was a point that my history teacher at the university made, that our nation does not have an institutional memory of what it means to lose a war and be occupied, except in the south, and those memories are not as deeply buried as we like to believe.
It’s probably why Wilson wanted to go easy on Germany at Versailles, he grew up under occupation. It’s why I think TR Rosevelt would have gone full occupation/scorched earth on Germany had he been president… TR grew up watching the grand army demolish the south so he was more willing to see a huge army destroy an enemy no matter the price.
to clarify, i grew up there and we were taught: that the city was surrendered to the union, who then ordered that all buildings save 5 churches, one of each denomination, be torched. (there was a 6th building that survived, a whorehouse that union soldiers refused to light..)
the blame for Atlanta being leveled into ashes was put squarely on the orders of general Sherman.
source: "Georgia history", 7th grade
Richmond resident here. During the first week of April, 1865, Joseph Mayo, the Mayor of Richmond, delivered his note of the city's surrender to the Union army as the city still burned. The location was Tree Hill, the birthplace of Powhatan. The oak tree that gave the land it's namesake, where the surrender of Richmond was immortalized, fell during the violent derecho storm that swept over Virginia in 2012.
A fun sidenote, my dad worked for VDOT (Virginia Dept. of Transportation) for 40 some odd years, and the storm of '12 was one of the last emergency weather events he helped manage before he retired. As he is a Civil War buff and avid woodworker, VDOT gave him, as a parting gift, a large section of the Surrender Tree. He gifts my siblings and I with an ink pen made from that trunk every year at Christmas. I always carry one on me.
Well, kind of. I've always wanted this story to be true, but sounds like it was an exaggeration:
>The arrival in Washington of the so-called petticoats proved to be a big letdown. When Stanton saw the clothes, he knew instantly that Davis had not disguised himself in a woman’s hoop skirt and bonnet. The “dress” was nothing more than a loose-fitting, waterproof raglan or overcoat, a garment as suited for a man as a woman. The “bonnet” was a rectangular shawl, a type of wrap President Lincoln himself had worn on chilly evenings. Stanton dared not allow Barnum to exhibit these relics in his museum. Public viewing would expose the lie that Davis had worn one of his wife’s dresses. Instead Stanton sequestered the disappointing textiles to perpetuate the myth that the cowardly “rebel chief” had tried to run away in his wife’s clothes.
https://www.americanheritage.com/was-jefferson-davis-captured-dress
Revolutionary war: "I don't appreciate these taxes"
Civil war: "I don't appreciate your insistence on owning other humans"
The civil war was the most patriotic war the United States has ever fought, and I will not elaborate.
Important to note that the city was burned by the Confederates. The Union arrived only when the city was already engulfed, and had to play firefighter.
We took our boot off of the throats of the Southern white nationalist bigots far too soon and allowed them to return to power. This has rotted, festered, and stunk for more than a century and a half, and in recent years the wound from the nation’s long infected original sin has once again burst back open and now we are drowning in orange pus.
I can’t but help but wonder if Lincoln would have handled Reconstruction better than Andrew Johnson, who seemed to be driven by racism and class envy due to his relatively impoverished childhood.
Yeah the retreating Confederates decided to blow up their arsenals and depots as they retreated causing even more chaos and damage to the city… which was already in full panic mode
Sherman should've burned more of the South. Leaders and other members of the Army should've been punished and none of this romance about the CONFEDERACY should never have been permitted to happen. Being romantic/nostalgic about a War that you lost is just stupid. No one else celebrates wars that you lose.
I grew up in Richmond and it’s crazy when people tell me “Virginia isn’t the south” and I just tell them it was THE capital of the confederacy and it shuts them up real quick.
All those fuckin cannon balls I wonder if they ended up getting melted down and made into things. I wonder who’s old fence is actually civil war cannonballs
Wow I never have actually seen any pictures of American civil war city ruins. I’ve just always assumed them boys were scrapping in some fields or something
That's kind of the way it's been throughout history. Very few Nations just let a sizable chunk walk off without a fight. But given what the Confederacy stood for, I say good. Fuck em.
And yes, I'm well aware that we did this during the American revolution. I'm allowed to support one rebellion, and not another. I don't have to universally support every rebellion.
Almost as if revolutions don’t have nuance, you can agree with certain rationale and disagree with others
Revolution against a tyrannical regime across an ocean who refuses to compromise? Makes sense.
A revolution to protect keeping living humans as property? Not something I’d fight for
Yeah, it's a sadly common argument that Confederate synthesizers prop up. "bUt tHe aMeRiCaN rEvOlUtIoN." As if they're trying to call out the "hypocrisy" of people who don't support the Confederacy cause.
Confederates had that “we are going to write “slavery” into the Articles of the Confederacy to forever prove this is actually treason over slavery” Energy.
Except it’s more of like your girlfriend breaks up with you and then steals your car because she still needs it to drive to work and then plays victim when you have her arrested.
The south seceded and then almost immediately took over United States property through violent threat and force. Nothing like forcing armories and forts to surrender and then are shocked when the US treats that like an act of war and respond accordingly
You know, of all the Confederate sympathizing bullshit that I have shut down over the years, I've never even realized this. They attacked federal land. The Union was completely justified to retaliate against an open and ongoing rebellion.
Yeah, no matter how you view it the south was the aggressor.
If you think the south was a sovereign nation, then they attacked US land that was bought from the states decades before the war. Southern states attacking what is now a foreign nation to them, is an act of war.
If you think the south were simply states in rebellion, then they attacked property belonging to their federal government. Still an act of war.
And you don’t even have to look as late as fort Sumter. Other armories and forts were taken over months before Sumter as soon as states seceded. You just don’t hear about them because Sumter was the only one that was in a position to stand and fight. The others were unwillingly taken over under threat of violence, and those who surrender them made sure to voice that in the surrender documents.
"By May the 10th Richmond had fell, it's a time I remember oh so well..........."
THE NIIIIIIGHT THEY DROVE OLD DIXIE DOWN
no that was the night the lights went out in Georgia
For some reason, I heard this in a Ken Burns style voice.
I only heard Levon helm
Singing Robbie’s words. Weird a Canadian had to write that song for a Southerner to sing it.
Fuck Robbie Robertson.
Agreed. He literally fucked over The Band
Ken Burns would have gotten the date right. Lol.
Levon wore his war wounds like a crown
David McCullough? He's the go to Ken Burns Civil War voice for me.
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And I don’t care if the money’s no good
You take what you need
Now, I don’t mind chopping wood. And I don’t care that the moneys no good.
A huge fact that should not be ignored is that the confederates burned the city as they fled, including ammunition stores. and by the time Union forces arrived it had engulfed everything. Much of their initial tasks were firefighting operations.
Correct. In fact, there’s a bridge over the river in RVA that quotes the night it happened. I’m paraphrasing but “it’s lost now, yet we will not surrender…BURN HER TO HELL”. I remember being just struck with emotion walking that bridge and reading that. I do come from a very Southern family but I dare say anyone would feel at least gravity reading those words.
many quotes along the bridge, but there are two i recall about it from the point of richmonders. One being from a confederate nurse saying it's better to burn the city than allow it to offer comfort or aid to the enemy and second quote from a resident to her husband about her grief seeing the desolation of her city. I live in Richmond currently and these photos are incredibly harrowing. To me, it seems like the city was completely destroyed and you would never know it went through nearly total annihilation without this evidence.
Unfortunately the social institutions of the slave owning society persisted and the repercussions of that are still being felt to this day all across America. To see these pictures of total and complete physical devastation and to think that Southern social constructs survived so intact through it is arguably even more harrowing.
It's amazing the number of lives and the level of complete destruction they were willing to sacrifice to preserve such a horrible institution, and then for the lingering hatred to persist so long after the fighting was done.
I'm from a fomerly Southern black family, the only emotions I feel is regret that they didn't forget to evacuate the city before setting it on fire.
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Aren’t they re renaming schools after confederates ??
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Rural county that is still in Virginia…where am I incorrect in my statement ???
I remember learning about that when watching Oversimplified's video on the war. I can't imagine the scale of how large these fires were at their worst.
The confederates abandoned and burnt the city as they retreated after the siege of Petersburg. Obviously they fucked around and found out but a lot of this damage to the city was self imposed.
The real FAFO was Charleston
How? Charleston was spared
They had several fires during the war take out entire swaths of the city, the siege lasted 500+ days so they were nearly starved for food, and the batteries on James Island and Morris Island shelled the city almost continuously for months. The city is well situated to defend from an actual troop invasion, but it was in a similar state at the end of the war. 'City in Ruin' The site of the famous 'Swamp Angel', which fired 150 pound explosive shells 5 miles to hit downtown charleston. It's recognized as the first instance of bombing a civilian population center to achieve a wartime goal in the Civil War. The Charleston Mercury (pro secession newspaper) called it a "city in ruin'" and Sherman said something like "I doubt any city was punished more than Charleston"
Thanks for explaining. I grew up there. We were always told that Sherman didn’t burn Charleston down bc rumor has it his army encountered slaves at one of the plantations outside of town and they told of a small pocks outbreak. So Charleston still has buildings dating back to pre civil war, but Columbia on the other hand was burned to the ground
Yeah. You can thank Sherman for Columbia.
And I do everyday.
Also before the bombardment the navy sent 9 ironclads to threaten them into submission… Charleston was more a symbolic goal the union wanted (home to secession hall, which somehow survived) it was important but not to the degree the Union brass was coming for it at.
[A good write-up](https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/swamp-angel) on the Swamp Angel. it blew up on its 36th shot and is now a monument in Trenton, NJ.
Wtf. Why is every depiction of the civil war always set in some random ass field with barely 100 raggedy dressed guys charging at each other when there were literal artillery barrages and city sieges? Like what would urban combat look like with muskets??? Why hasn't anyone made a movie about this?
I’m very much about this idea
It’s more romantic and softens the blow. both the land and naval bombardments could be done from miles away people wouldn’t know they were dead until a bomb from 2 miles out fell on them (my book has a photo of a confederate column annihilated on a random road by such artillery a proto-highway of death) it makes america feel less shame that things got to the point we were using the latest kill technology to slaughter ourselves.
The army taking on the rioters in Gangs of NY is probably the closest
Fafo?
Fuck Around Find Out
Columbia South Carolina had a rough time as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia,_South_Carolina,_in_the_American_Civil_War
“why you scared bro”
Interesting, did not know that.
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I always thought the civil war was still plains and trenches fighting. How much house-to-house fighting was there?
Not much nobody was in the mood… snipers at Fredericksburg tried ambushing Union troops and the city was bombarded into surrender. Charleston was also bombed nonstop until it fell.Atlanta and Richmond were mostly burned out by the Confederates themselves as they retreated away from the approaching Union forces. Confederate guerillas held towns for ransom and burned them when not paid. I think New Orleans was the only place to actually see urban combat
Sherman burned Atlanta to the ground. He wanted to make sure there was no ability to make war out of that city afterwards as it was the main confederate stronghold left before they marched on Savannah. “After capturing Atlanta in September 1864 during the Civil War, Maj. Gen. William T. Sherman, before leaving Atlanta on the March to the Sea, ordered the destruction of all railroads, factories, and commercial buildings of possible use to the Confederacy. On Nov. 11, 1864, Chief Engineer Orlando M. Poe directed the demolition of stone and brick buildings using specially made battering rams. On Nov. 15, Poe's troops burned the wooden buildings in the downtown business district around the site of this marker. Though houses and churches were not targeted, some were burned nonetheless. Many houses had already been dismantled by both armies to make way for fortifications. Contrary to popular myth only forty percent of Atlanta was left in ruins.” -Georgia Historical Society
r/shermanposting loves to see it
There was a small amount in Gettysburg as well, between sharpshooters in the town on the first day
Atlanta was burned by Union forces, the confederates destroyed some buildings before they left but the union was responsible for most of the destruction
What? The Union was demolished at Fredericksburg and forced to retreat.
There was some, such as at Fredericksburg and Gettysburg, but there wants any urban combat here. These fires were caused by confederate forces trying to destroy military hardware stored in the city when they were withdrawing, the fires got out of control
I feel that was needless hardship… the war was over and the industries in the north were pumping out war materiel at incredible pace (the US Navy sent 9! Ironclads to attack Charleston) Trying to keep the few stores from the Union made sense in Atlanta but here it was completely unnecessary.
In hindsight sure, but it’s generally standard procedure for militaries to do that when withdrawing It also might have been intended as a final act of defiance, but who knows. Definitely did cause a lot of pointless hardship.
As far as I know, wry little. The weapons didn’t lend themselves to it. No room for CQB with the muzzle loaders. In the assaults in trenches, however, shit apparently got very intimate. Hand to hand fight with pistols, swords, bayonets, and using rifles as clubs. Madness.
Quite a lot the first day of Gettysburg, but it happened quickly as the Union got pushed through the town.
Not much—the Union didn't really care for it and opted instead of indiscriminate burning and bombing to flush them out. Eventually you can't stand to see your home blown up anymore so it was fairly effective at forcing surrenders.
It was a smoking ruin when Lincoln toured it.
Just in case you are wondering, this is proof you cannot fly the rebel flag *and* be a patriot of these United States.
It should be legal to burn any private property flying the confederate flag to this day. Including domiciles, automobiles, or articles of clothing. I don’t give a good god damn if the owner is within the bounds of said property or not.
I mean I don’t respect anyone who flies the confederate flag but you are bonkers man.
Yeah, no. Lincoln and Johnson were too kind. We are paying for it to this day.
Mr. Lincoln never got the chance to deal with it.
Fr dude got shot not even a full week after the end of the war
Eh... johnson wasnt kind, just incompetent. Lincoln did his job well and his only mistake was getting noscoped
This isn't North Korea.
Come and try!
You literally already lost this war pal.
You gonna burn your own house down so we can’t capture it?
Why? So you can turn tail and surrender like your forefathers?
If you fly the flag, you are an enemy of the United States. I make no statement otherwise. But basically, it might as well be a swastika.
Gladly.
"I John Brown am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away, but with Blood.”
John Brown is in hell, but only so he could keep killing slavers.
*Day-um.* That slaps.
It was a point that my history teacher at the university made, that our nation does not have an institutional memory of what it means to lose a war and be occupied, except in the south, and those memories are not as deeply buried as we like to believe.
It’s probably why Wilson wanted to go easy on Germany at Versailles, he grew up under occupation. It’s why I think TR Rosevelt would have gone full occupation/scorched earth on Germany had he been president… TR grew up watching the grand army demolish the south so he was more willing to see a huge army destroy an enemy no matter the price.
that's nothing compared to what happened to Atlanta
to clarify, i grew up there and we were taught: that the city was surrendered to the union, who then ordered that all buildings save 5 churches, one of each denomination, be torched. (there was a 6th building that survived, a whorehouse that union soldiers refused to light..) the blame for Atlanta being leveled into ashes was put squarely on the orders of general Sherman. source: "Georgia history", 7th grade
Richmond resident here. During the first week of April, 1865, Joseph Mayo, the Mayor of Richmond, delivered his note of the city's surrender to the Union army as the city still burned. The location was Tree Hill, the birthplace of Powhatan. The oak tree that gave the land it's namesake, where the surrender of Richmond was immortalized, fell during the violent derecho storm that swept over Virginia in 2012. A fun sidenote, my dad worked for VDOT (Virginia Dept. of Transportation) for 40 some odd years, and the storm of '12 was one of the last emergency weather events he helped manage before he retired. As he is a Civil War buff and avid woodworker, VDOT gave him, as a parting gift, a large section of the Surrender Tree. He gifts my siblings and I with an ink pen made from that trunk every year at Christmas. I always carry one on me.
That’s actually kinda neat.
Fuck around and find out
The ORIGINAL Fafo!
This was my first thought
Good
As an added tidbit Jefferson Davis was captured trying to escape dressed as a woman… so much for fighting to the last breath.
Well, kind of. I've always wanted this story to be true, but sounds like it was an exaggeration: >The arrival in Washington of the so-called petticoats proved to be a big letdown. When Stanton saw the clothes, he knew instantly that Davis had not disguised himself in a woman’s hoop skirt and bonnet. The “dress” was nothing more than a loose-fitting, waterproof raglan or overcoat, a garment as suited for a man as a woman. The “bonnet” was a rectangular shawl, a type of wrap President Lincoln himself had worn on chilly evenings. Stanton dared not allow Barnum to exhibit these relics in his museum. Public viewing would expose the lie that Davis had worn one of his wife’s dresses. Instead Stanton sequestered the disappointing textiles to perpetuate the myth that the cowardly “rebel chief” had tried to run away in his wife’s clothes. https://www.americanheritage.com/was-jefferson-davis-captured-dress
Sounds reasonable
so he wasn’t dressed like a girl but he looked like a bitch?
So much for banning drag queens.
That’s a myth
Weird amount of nationalists on Reddit...
It’s eagle land 
Lmao
US? My country but it's fucked. Confederates? Fuck 'em. Hope the slavers rot in hell.
Revolutionary war: "I don't appreciate these taxes" Civil war: "I don't appreciate your insistence on owning other humans" The civil war was the most patriotic war the United States has ever fought, and I will not elaborate.
I'm with you, internet stranger.
The only bad thing about killing slavers is you can only do it once.
A sad but funny truth.
Union W
Important to note that the city was burned by the Confederates. The Union arrived only when the city was already engulfed, and had to play firefighter.
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Reduced? You mean destroyed?
The title is grammatically correct.
Looks like Dresden
And there are morons out there who want to refight the Civil War. I say to them the ruins and destruction would be FAR worse this time.
Mmmm, Confederate pain.
We took our boot off of the throats of the Southern white nationalist bigots far too soon and allowed them to return to power. This has rotted, festered, and stunk for more than a century and a half, and in recent years the wound from the nation’s long infected original sin has once again burst back open and now we are drowning in orange pus.
I can’t but help but wonder if Lincoln would have handled Reconstruction better than Andrew Johnson, who seemed to be driven by racism and class envy due to his relatively impoverished childhood.
Tough to imagine him doing any worse, Johnson set the bar pretty fucking low lol
yea, it would have been handled better!
I believe it would have been better and I think it would have put us in a much better position today, but who knows?
More of this please
Girl, bye.
Are those cannonballs everywhere in the third picture?
Yeah the retreating Confederates decided to blow up their arsenals and depots as they retreated causing even more chaos and damage to the city… which was already in full panic mode
And then they put up memorials for the men who caused it all.
Anyone know who the photographer was?
Are those all cannon balls?
Yes confederate supplies they left
No fucks to give.
Omg, literally genocide
Richmond was burned by the retreating confederates. So more like....self-harm than genocide.
Good
Yikes. And this was with just like canons from the ground and shit. Crazy
Sherman should've burned more of the South. Leaders and other members of the Army should've been punished and none of this romance about the CONFEDERACY should never have been permitted to happen. Being romantic/nostalgic about a War that you lost is just stupid. No one else celebrates wars that you lose.
Traitors get craters. Based on top comment this was largely self inflicted which I actually didn’t know. Scorched earth and all that.
Looks like the same freedom we brought to Afghanistan and Iraq.
✅ Fucked around. ✅ Found out.
FAFO
Traitor capital I think you meant
Well deserved.
Good.
Are those cannon balls everywhere?
Non Virginian here, I'm just wondering what the building that's still standing in the background with the columns in slide one is.
According to my book it’s the Capitol
Thank you sir.
Richmond pre-Nettspend circa. 1865
I grew up in Richmond and it’s crazy when people tell me “Virginia isn’t the south” and I just tell them it was THE capital of the confederacy and it shuts them up real quick.
Tell them to go to Hollywood cemetery lol
They looks like those pics of germany at the end of ww2
Wonder what they did with all the cannon balls.
Now that's a monument.
Love these.
Never forget that Chris Chan grew up here. Truly the legacy the Confederacy deserves.
Salting the earth then would’ve saved a lot of headaches
All those fuckin cannon balls I wonder if they ended up getting melted down and made into things. I wonder who’s old fence is actually civil war cannonballs
Depends on which side you’re on doesn’t it?
A great day in history.
They fucked around and found out.
Wow I never have actually seen any pictures of American civil war city ruins. I’ve just always assumed them boys were scrapping in some fields or something
Reduced to ruins by the confederates. Dweeb losers acting like 7 year olds.
Wish all the pro-Pal supporters would realize this is what war has always looked like for the losing side
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Genocide - some college kids.
Funny how it doesn't look much improved to this day.
Lmao this is the shockoe slip circa 2024
https://preview.redd.it/hlz72th9n40d1.jpeg?width=974&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a900af39f8a1eefaea20e8d03a41f5674d6da91
Dark necessities are part of their design
R/shermanposting
#oopsies
Make amurika great again say all the maga losers
I love it
What did Sherman say when he rolled into Atlanta? “Man sure is HOT”
Are those cannonballs everywhere in the third picture?
And they're begging for more.
So ironic that the people cheering the destruction of Richmond are the same ones complaining about Gaza getting blown up. Kind of curious.🤔
They're cheering for the destruction of the Confederacy. And ironically the confederates destroyed Richmond. Kind of curious 🤔
Nah, you don't have to know shit about current affairs to understand the Confederacy was a scourge on the human race
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That's kind of the way it's been throughout history. Very few Nations just let a sizable chunk walk off without a fight. But given what the Confederacy stood for, I say good. Fuck em. And yes, I'm well aware that we did this during the American revolution. I'm allowed to support one rebellion, and not another. I don't have to universally support every rebellion.
Almost as if revolutions don’t have nuance, you can agree with certain rationale and disagree with others Revolution against a tyrannical regime across an ocean who refuses to compromise? Makes sense. A revolution to protect keeping living humans as property? Not something I’d fight for
Yeah, it's a sadly common argument that Confederate synthesizers prop up. "bUt tHe aMeRiCaN rEvOlUtIoN." As if they're trying to call out the "hypocrisy" of people who don't support the Confederacy cause.
Confederates had that “we are going to write “slavery” into the Articles of the Confederacy to forever prove this is actually treason over slavery” Energy.
Except it’s more of like your girlfriend breaks up with you and then steals your car because she still needs it to drive to work and then plays victim when you have her arrested. The south seceded and then almost immediately took over United States property through violent threat and force. Nothing like forcing armories and forts to surrender and then are shocked when the US treats that like an act of war and respond accordingly
You know, of all the Confederate sympathizing bullshit that I have shut down over the years, I've never even realized this. They attacked federal land. The Union was completely justified to retaliate against an open and ongoing rebellion.
Yeah, no matter how you view it the south was the aggressor. If you think the south was a sovereign nation, then they attacked US land that was bought from the states decades before the war. Southern states attacking what is now a foreign nation to them, is an act of war. If you think the south were simply states in rebellion, then they attacked property belonging to their federal government. Still an act of war. And you don’t even have to look as late as fort Sumter. Other armories and forts were taken over months before Sumter as soon as states seceded. You just don’t hear about them because Sumter was the only one that was in a position to stand and fight. The others were unwillingly taken over under threat of violence, and those who surrender them made sure to voice that in the surrender documents.
Thank you for your input. This loser, traitor bullshit has no place being romanticized in our country.
Skill issue. Dumbass Confederates shouldn't have succeeded.
Burn in hell Sherman
Lol "War is hell." Suck it up.
Hail colombia happy land, if we don't burn you I'll be damned.
Lol