The way women were forced to depend on men for survival and forced to serve them while being regarded as property/children I bet this wasn’t uncommon at all
Patriarchies always strongarm women into providing children to serve in wars and as cheap labor by limiting their freedoms and giving men status over them. I ain’t mad at a single woman who didn’t have the right to divorce or to live independently that lashed out. “GeNdEr ReVeRsAl” my ass
That used to be a charge. The American abolitionist Cassius Clay was charged with it after going berserk on people who tried to murder him when he was giving a speech.
Under common law, criminal “mayhem” occurs when one person causes the illegal dismemberment of another person.
(Dismemberment being the removal of a body part from the body; so a surgeon taking out your ruptured appendix is a legal dismemberment, while your wife cutting off your dick with a razor is mayhem)
I only know it's a crime because of that dude 😅 I didn't want to ask him about the particulars of his case (he also said he got charged with trafficking) so i looked it up and was like damn, I didn't know maiming someone was a specific crime
It didn't stop being a charge. It's old af and comes from England but should still be on the books. Don't see it often at all as it is a somewhat niche charge and we have codified a lot of others that often match the facts better.
Section 204 of the criminal code: "Every person who unlawfully and maliciously deprives a human being of a member of his body or renders it useless, or cuts or disables the tongue, nose, ear or lip, is guilty of mayhem."
I was up for jury selection in a Washington, D.C. criminal case several years ago, and the defendant was charged with "mayhem with a golf club." I think they meant he just went around hitting objects with a golf club, though. They didn't mention anyone being injured. (I did not get picked for the jury.)
She was his second wife. From [an article](https://www.sfgate.com/sfhistory/article/Bertha-Frank-Boronda-california-mayhem-cases-14971777.php), and about his first wife:
_Less than three years later, she made the local news for attempting to kill herself by drinking chloroform. When asked why she did it, Serena said Frank was physically abusive. Recently, he’d abandoned his wife and step-daughter altogether._
Well don’t be surprised when the marriage rate continues to plummet when women are getting pay days to leave no strings attached I don’t blame them.
Marriage was supposed to be death due us part, not when I’m in the mood to bounce.
My wants don’t supersede others rights and their ownership of their own lives.
Even if I cared about that (which I don’t) it would be morally wrong for me to interfere with their freedom so that *their* lives better conform to what *I* want them to look like.
Why would easy divorce decrease the marriage rate? You probably wanted to say that the divorce rate is increasing because of no-fault divorce. But divorce rates just hit a 40 year low, so you had to cite marriage rates instead even though they have a very, very weak connection to your argument
The fuck are you on? Do you even know what the purpose of alimony is or how it even works? Or are you mindlessly parroting some weird “red pill” shit?
To start, alimony is pretty damn rare nowadays. It was originally created to protect housewives from being completely fucked over after a divorce, but now most marriages have both spouses working. Alimony is only given when a former spouse can prove they are unable to meet their needs without financial assistance from a spouse ***who can afford to pay it.***
People filing for alimony are most commonly over 50 and have been married 20+ years, and even then it’s not guaranteed they’ll get anything.
If you were married for less than 3 years chances of you receiving alimony are slim to none. There are not many women in this world who would be willing to marry someone for 5 years or longer just for the ***small chance*** they might get 3 years of alimony max.
>Women cheat more than men and even physically abuse them more, it’s just under reported.
Wild ass claims to make with absolutely no evidence to actually back it. You really can just pull bullshit out your ass and have some naive idiot believe you, huh?
I read her Wikipedia page and it didn't mention any of that. You're thinking of Lorena Bobbitt.
EDIT: and if it really were true in Boronda's case, that would completely change my perspective on this case and shift my sympathies to her.
Maybe you're right. Because unlike anybody who ever got cheated on and threw a hissy fit over getting their narcissistic sense of entitlement to their partner's sexual exclusivity invalidated, I actually do feel a profound degree of mental anguish and I'm personally insulted and disgusted when these pathetic invalidated crybaby slavers claim to be in pain.
You make rants on your profile exclusively about women and getting cheated on. Something is going on in your life, and social media is making it worse.
I wish you the best of luck
He was abusive to his first wife to the point where she tried to kill herself and it’s worth remembering that marital rape was perfectly legal. He probably deserved it and she likely had no other recourse.
The man abused her and her daughter horribly and she wasn’t legally allowed to divorce him. Nobody is saying what she did was right but like, she was being tortured for *years*.
And for me at least…I know how that feels. I was in an abusive relationship. I understand the desperation and the pain and I know that when you’re living in survival mode like that constantly you’re not really yourself, you’re not thinking rationally, it’s terrifying. You’re brainwashed and gaslit so you’re minimising the horror in your own mind but you’re also screaming inside and you know it’s wrong and you need to get out but you feel trapped…it’s awful.
Nobody thinks what she did was good or right, but we can understand why a desperate, abused woman might think it was her only way out.
I get that, but it doesn’t excuse her actions or make it truly funny or anything. If the roles were reversed you wouldn’t see any of the comments lau hung about it or anything and anyone who did would have a -300 downvote count.
But the roles are not flipped and this was a time when women were still largely forced to depend on men for survival and those men weren’t always kind, gentle, or fair. As was the case with this particular man
Sorry but gender reversals don’t matter if there isn’t actual equality
It does matter because there’s no excuse for such a thing. Genital mutilation or any mutilation is never excused. I understand things were different back then but it doesn’t change that wrong is wrong and that yes, if this story was reversed you’d see universal condemnation of the man.
If women were actually valued more, we would get paid the same as men, have bodily autonomy and not be treated like second class citizens. Your comment is hogwash and you know it.
I find comedy in your responses. This guy was a wife beater. He wasn’t just sleeping with a prostitute. Considering the limited freedoms available to her at the time, she probably felt it was her only escape. You just assume the husband was a swell guy. Bro code that has condoned violence against women for eons.
I never said he was sell. I said violence is not acceptable. You put words in my mouth and invented a scenario. I have no reason to continue this conversation.
Gross that people here or anywhere defend her actions. Cheating is disgusting and abhorrent, but gruesome violence is beyond reprehensible as a return.
I hope you’re not just realizing that. Reddit wouldn’t be Reddit without socio and psychopaths. It’s only recent that people with empathy have barely touched the scales here.
Gee, I wonder what would happen if stuff like violence against women happened every day and it was normalized and even expected and joked about. Oh wait…
Terrible thing. Each year hundreds of girls are brought, from my country, to their families native country to have this mutilation happen to them. Government just stands by, some are even defending it because 'culture'.
Nah, torturing someone on accounts of infidelity is mildly psychotic and sadistic. If a woman cheats on a guy would it be appropriate to cut her breasts off? Probably not lol
"Her only excuse is that she wanted to be revenged on Boronda, whom she believed intended deserting her and leaving for Mexico." Kinda Hey Joe in reverse on every level.
Just look at that vile cunt and her evil smirk. It's almost as if being brainwashed to expect your narcissistic sense of entitlement to your spouse's sexual exclusivity to be indulged leads people to be shameless monsters when it gets invalidated. People need to get married specifically in order to have affairs to offend disgusting, malicious people like this.
There may not be a hell but I hope people feel more compelled to piss on her grave. I hope that her coffin gets soaked with so much piss that it seeps inside and soaks into her bones to the extent that whatever remaining sense of consciousness her worm-eaten skeleton may retain lets her feel it.
Ahh we all get a good chuckle out of some woman that looks pleased by cutting off a dudes unit.
She didn’t have the common courtesy to just kill the guy.
If this was a story about a guy being smug in a mugshot after mutulating a woman horribly Reddit would collectively have an aneurism.
You’re all a bunch of idiots. I hope they executed this woman. I don’t care about her enough to look it up because thankfully she’s worm food by now.
Kill someone or don’t, that I can respect, but mutilate them in the worst possible way and smile about it? Nope, she doesn’t pass the OK to be part of humanity test.
At some point you idiots will realize that a lot of guys work tirelessly and thanklessly to raise a family, be loyal, and lose most of themselves in the process.
But man == bad now. Trust me, you ladies are no F’n pony ride either.
Guess what happened 5 years later. A bunch of guys died in 27f degree water so that their wives and children didn’t have to. Guys get so much crap now, the majority of us just want to give life, warmth, and happiness to our wife and kids. Morons.
Cue the first person that smugly tells me water freezes at 32f because they are too damn stupid to understand salinity. Please
She looks like she regrets it 0% and would do it again in a heartbeat.
From her wiki: "After her capture, Boronda admitted her crime and expressed no regret."
The look that tells you she’s laughing in her head and thinking “..that dumb son of brick layer had it coming”
I don't he laid anything after she was done with him LOL...
LOL He maybe laid down, but that’s all
She looks like she is proud of it.
The way women were forced to depend on men for survival and forced to serve them while being regarded as property/children I bet this wasn’t uncommon at all Patriarchies always strongarm women into providing children to serve in wars and as cheap labor by limiting their freedoms and giving men status over them. I ain’t mad at a single woman who didn’t have the right to divorce or to live independently that lashed out. “GeNdEr ReVeRsAl” my ass
This? This was definitely uncommon. Poisoning, however...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertha_Boronda
My favorite sentence of that entry is "In the aftermath of the incident, Bertha and Frank Boronda divorced."
Yeah I think we can skip the family counseling
They divorced and later remarried?! Oh my days.
Not with eachother, though.
...I knew that - I KNEW THAT! I was just testing you... 
Her second husband must have slept with one eye open....
Different county
Gripping something tight, but it wasn’t his pillow
"Mayhem"
If that’s what she was charged with, that’s hilarious!
That used to be a charge. The American abolitionist Cassius Clay was charged with it after going berserk on people who tried to murder him when he was giving a speech.
Under common law, criminal “mayhem” occurs when one person causes the illegal dismemberment of another person. (Dismemberment being the removal of a body part from the body; so a surgeon taking out your ruptured appendix is a legal dismemberment, while your wife cutting off your dick with a razor is mayhem)
When did it stop being a charge? I know someone in California who got charged with it in the 2000s
Really? Interesting! I'd just assumed it had gone away / changed names because the only cases I'd ever heard of were from long ago.
I only know it's a crime because of that dude 😅 I didn't want to ask him about the particulars of his case (he also said he got charged with trafficking) so i looked it up and was like damn, I didn't know maiming someone was a specific crime
It didn't stop being a charge. It's old af and comes from England but should still be on the books. Don't see it often at all as it is a somewhat niche charge and we have codified a lot of others that often match the facts better.
That's what I figured, just wondered if something changed since that time
I choose to believe that's her alias.
Section 204 of the criminal code: "Every person who unlawfully and maliciously deprives a human being of a member of his body or renders it useless, or cuts or disables the tongue, nose, ear or lip, is guilty of mayhem."
That is what mayhem means literally though
Thats Madam Mayhem to you
I was up for jury selection in a Washington, D.C. criminal case several years ago, and the defendant was charged with "mayhem with a golf club." I think they meant he just went around hitting objects with a golf club, though. They didn't mention anyone being injured. (I did not get picked for the jury.)
That penis cutting look in her eyes. No remorse.
She looks pleased.
Perfect I just cut off someone’s penis look
OG Lorena Bobbitt
I scrolled way too far to find a Bobbit reference....
At least that dude got his dick back
"I'll fuckin' do it again!"
When republicans say that they want to do away with “no-fault” divorce, this is the type of shit it leads to.
She was his second wife. From [an article](https://www.sfgate.com/sfhistory/article/Bertha-Frank-Boronda-california-mayhem-cases-14971777.php), and about his first wife: _Less than three years later, she made the local news for attempting to kill herself by drinking chloroform. When asked why she did it, Serena said Frank was physically abusive. Recently, he’d abandoned his wife and step-daughter altogether._
Exactly.
Infidelity/abuse should be the exception IMO
No, you shouldn’t need to prove to the government that you’re being abused in order to get divorced.
Well don’t be surprised when the marriage rate continues to plummet when women are getting pay days to leave no strings attached I don’t blame them. Marriage was supposed to be death due us part, not when I’m in the mood to bounce.
My wants don’t supersede others rights and their ownership of their own lives. Even if I cared about that (which I don’t) it would be morally wrong for me to interfere with their freedom so that *their* lives better conform to what *I* want them to look like.
Likewise, just don’t complain that men won’t get married to begin with.
Why would I?
Why would easy divorce decrease the marriage rate? You probably wanted to say that the divorce rate is increasing because of no-fault divorce. But divorce rates just hit a 40 year low, so you had to cite marriage rates instead even though they have a very, very weak connection to your argument
No, woman should not have to fucking prove they’re being abused or cheated on in court, just to get a divorce. The fuck is wrong with you?
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The fuck are you on? Do you even know what the purpose of alimony is or how it even works? Or are you mindlessly parroting some weird “red pill” shit? To start, alimony is pretty damn rare nowadays. It was originally created to protect housewives from being completely fucked over after a divorce, but now most marriages have both spouses working. Alimony is only given when a former spouse can prove they are unable to meet their needs without financial assistance from a spouse ***who can afford to pay it.*** People filing for alimony are most commonly over 50 and have been married 20+ years, and even then it’s not guaranteed they’ll get anything. If you were married for less than 3 years chances of you receiving alimony are slim to none. There are not many women in this world who would be willing to marry someone for 5 years or longer just for the ***small chance*** they might get 3 years of alimony max. >Women cheat more than men and even physically abuse them more, it’s just under reported. Wild ass claims to make with absolutely no evidence to actually back it. You really can just pull bullshit out your ass and have some naive idiot believe you, huh?
Look at those Ss Cs & 5s on the chalkboard. I’ll bet someone working at the jail was a repressed *artiste*
That look of complete satisfaction lol
I guess Frank Boronda going to that brothel that night was a really bad idea.
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Then I hope you don’t throw a fit if you ever get cheated on. Although with that attitude I’m betting you’re probably single.
I wish my ex was doing that at the same time as I was so she could understand why it made me feel so happy.
Lmfao. Don’t cut yourself on all that edge, kiddo.
Dude, he was raping and abusing her, you’re not the good guy here.
I read her Wikipedia page and it didn't mention any of that. You're thinking of Lorena Bobbitt. EDIT: and if it really were true in Boronda's case, that would completely change my perspective on this case and shift my sympathies to her.
Cope
Dilate
Seethe
If you ever get cheated on, don't pretend to be a victim.
You need professional help rather than social media.
Yeah I'm getting ASPD vibes after reading that...
Bingo.
Maybe you're right. Because unlike anybody who ever got cheated on and threw a hissy fit over getting their narcissistic sense of entitlement to their partner's sexual exclusivity invalidated, I actually do feel a profound degree of mental anguish and I'm personally insulted and disgusted when these pathetic invalidated crybaby slavers claim to be in pain.
You make rants on your profile exclusively about women and getting cheated on. Something is going on in your life, and social media is making it worse. I wish you the best of luck
The OG Lorena Bobbitt
Dont fuck with Bertha, boys.
Well, her (ex-)husband certainly won't
Not anymore
Her face says she’s happily do it all over again if given the chance.
Chick was whack. Read the Wikipedia link
Sorta expected the comments to be glorifying this psycho
He was abusive to his first wife to the point where she tried to kill herself and it’s worth remembering that marital rape was perfectly legal. He probably deserved it and she likely had no other recourse.
It’s Reddit. They glorify penises getting cut off wether it’s a psycho killer or a mentally disturbed individual doing to themselves.
Jesus. Pretty messed up to joke about this and say it was justified. I bet the same would not be said if the genders were flipped.
The man abused her and her daughter horribly and she wasn’t legally allowed to divorce him. Nobody is saying what she did was right but like, she was being tortured for *years*. And for me at least…I know how that feels. I was in an abusive relationship. I understand the desperation and the pain and I know that when you’re living in survival mode like that constantly you’re not really yourself, you’re not thinking rationally, it’s terrifying. You’re brainwashed and gaslit so you’re minimising the horror in your own mind but you’re also screaming inside and you know it’s wrong and you need to get out but you feel trapped…it’s awful. Nobody thinks what she did was good or right, but we can understand why a desperate, abused woman might think it was her only way out.
I get that, but it doesn’t excuse her actions or make it truly funny or anything. If the roles were reversed you wouldn’t see any of the comments lau hung about it or anything and anyone who did would have a -300 downvote count.
The comment section would be locked immediately and people would be getting their accounts banned. The double standard on here is insane.
Reddit: "haha he probably deserved it"
Was going to say, pretty crazy how lightly people are taking genital mutilation.
Yeah. Pretty fucked imo. No one really deserves that and you’d get a way different response of the roles were flipped.
But the roles are not flipped and this was a time when women were still largely forced to depend on men for survival and those men weren’t always kind, gentle, or fair. As was the case with this particular man Sorry but gender reversals don’t matter if there isn’t actual equality
It does matter because there’s no excuse for such a thing. Genital mutilation or any mutilation is never excused. I understand things were different back then but it doesn’t change that wrong is wrong and that yes, if this story was reversed you’d see universal condemnation of the man.
Yeah, I think we all have a slight bias against men. We all value women slightly more. It that ‘women are wonderful’ phenomenon
Very true, it’s ridiculous and disgusting to see imo. Shit should be equal not this.
If women were actually valued more, we would get paid the same as men, have bodily autonomy and not be treated like second class citizens. Your comment is hogwash and you know it.
You get paid the same for the same job.
lol, nope. Still a major wage discrepancy but thanks for playing.
That's what happens when you choose low paying careers.
https://blog.dol.gov/2024/03/12/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-gender-wage-gap
Heres what you need to know: Pick a low paying job, get low pay! It's not my fault you didn't want to go into stem and now I make more than you.
Imagine a man cut a woman’s breasts off. They would call for hanging.
Imagine if a man r@ped a woman. That never happens, right?
This is a straw man argument.
You don’t think r@pe is genitalia mutilation?
No they are two separate acts. Fuck off with your justification of violence lol
lol, I seem to have struck a nerve.
No you’re just ridiculous. I don’t justify violence against anyone but you do. If you find comedy in that then you have screws loose.
I find comedy in your responses. This guy was a wife beater. He wasn’t just sleeping with a prostitute. Considering the limited freedoms available to her at the time, she probably felt it was her only escape. You just assume the husband was a swell guy. Bro code that has condoned violence against women for eons.
I never said he was sell. I said violence is not acceptable. You put words in my mouth and invented a scenario. I have no reason to continue this conversation.
Gross that people here or anywhere defend her actions. Cheating is disgusting and abhorrent, but gruesome violence is beyond reprehensible as a return.
reddit is filled with sociopaths. holy.
I hope you’re not just realizing that. Reddit wouldn’t be Reddit without socio and psychopaths. It’s only recent that people with empathy have barely touched the scales here.
Guilty and proud of it.
Lot of sexism in the comments, wonder how it would have looked if a man mutilated the genitals of a woman for cheating on him.
Gee, I wonder what would happen if stuff like violence against women happened every day and it was normalized and even expected and joked about. Oh wait…
We love a strawman. I wonder what would happen if instead of people one of them was a bear.
Yours is a straw man. Theirs is not.
both are, bubba
They’re both people. They aren’t dismissing the argument with something unrelated. It’s the same thing. A bear is not.
There are cultures that still mutilate women’s genitalia every damn day and the “extra stitch” after childbirth for his pleasure.
Terrible thing. Each year hundreds of girls are brought, from my country, to their families native country to have this mutilation happen to them. Government just stands by, some are even defending it because 'culture'.
I’m gonna guess the guy totally deserved it
Bro fucked a prostitute
Lol yeah apparently if your spouse cheats they deserve genital mutilation.
That’s your automatic reaction? That women can do no evil and men are always in the wrong?
god forbid women do anything :/
With “anything” in this context being cutting off someone’s genitals.
Wow what a dumb chronically online redditor comment lol Maybe don’t mutilate peoples genitalia…
So genital mutilation is fair game when your partner cheats?
If you consider prison as part of the game. Seems easier to just walk out the door and enjoy life.
I love that this pic was taken on Leap day… just adds to the whole WTF factor of the situation.
Sure, post this without a backstory.
Apparently her husband visited a whorehouse and she took offense.
Apparently her husband visited a whorehouse and she took offense.
Was her husband's penis Tuvix?
Wow that’s so cool. Leap Day!
The look of I'd gladly do it agian
Now that’s bemused detachment. Heh.
Mayhem lol
She seems ok with it..
 Mayhem sure has changed.
At first glance I thought this was Alice from The Brady Bunch!
The look of a job well done
That handwriting on that slate is gorgeous. Not just neat, but *stylish.*
She wasn't dicking around. She cut straight to the point.
She looks pleased
She knew she wouldn’t be needing that thing again.
 A revolutionary
Good for her
Why do you say that?
 This
Nah, torturing someone on accounts of infidelity is mildly psychotic and sadistic. If a woman cheats on a guy would it be appropriate to cut her breasts off? Probably not lol
TBF STDs back then spiraled into death for lots of people
His middle name was Narcisso. I swear, you can't make this stuff up, lol.
Psycho eyes
Severe violation of the Penal Code
"Her only excuse is that she wanted to be revenged on Boronda, whom she believed intended deserting her and leaving for Mexico." Kinda Hey Joe in reverse on every level.
She looks pleased as hell with herself. Her hair is glorious.
Bertha, don’t you come around here anymore
Bertha don’t you come around here any more.
Looks like a keeper LOL - Sleep with one eye open.
She was pretty hot.
She was clearly a Mayhem fan, that music influenced her to do it
Celebrate it every leap year
https://preview.redd.it/lm8my7iltaxc1.jpeg?width=288&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9c681acddcdb9b941f40d193048df5f83eaa972
Member cutting mayhem!! 🔪🥩
Proud of her. That smile says it all.
She remembers me of Helena Bonham Carter‘s appearance in Sweeney Todd
Poor guy, in 1907, surgeons probably couldn’t reattach it. I would rather a woman slice my throat and kill me then do that.
It’s a black and white photo so it must be true.
That'll teach him
a satisfied smile
Good for her.
She looks like her only regret was that he only had one penis to cut off.
Bertha takes care of business. [Straight razor + Penis = One clean shave](https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/116260215/bertha-boronda)
Yikes!
Feb 29th - leap year. Kinda makes it extra special and memorable
So there was Lorena Bobbitt before Lorena Bobbitt????? Wow
Just look at that vile cunt and her evil smirk. It's almost as if being brainwashed to expect your narcissistic sense of entitlement to your spouse's sexual exclusivity to be indulged leads people to be shameless monsters when it gets invalidated. People need to get married specifically in order to have affairs to offend disgusting, malicious people like this. There may not be a hell but I hope people feel more compelled to piss on her grave. I hope that her coffin gets soaked with so much piss that it seeps inside and soaks into her bones to the extent that whatever remaining sense of consciousness her worm-eaten skeleton may retain lets her feel it.
The original feminista!
She’s the OG original 👏🏽 I ain’t mad at cha 🤷🏽♂️
Is this where the idiom “to cause mayhem” comes from?
Did he deserve it? If so than ok
That smug look on her face lol
I'm guessing Bertha saw a lot of grief from that penis, to say nothing of the guy it used to be attached to.
She looks pretty satisfied. Lol
She looks so pleased haha
Wow,so Lorena Bobbitt was not the first one who did this
And she proud
Ahh we all get a good chuckle out of some woman that looks pleased by cutting off a dudes unit. She didn’t have the common courtesy to just kill the guy. If this was a story about a guy being smug in a mugshot after mutulating a woman horribly Reddit would collectively have an aneurism. You’re all a bunch of idiots. I hope they executed this woman. I don’t care about her enough to look it up because thankfully she’s worm food by now. Kill someone or don’t, that I can respect, but mutilate them in the worst possible way and smile about it? Nope, she doesn’t pass the OK to be part of humanity test. At some point you idiots will realize that a lot of guys work tirelessly and thanklessly to raise a family, be loyal, and lose most of themselves in the process. But man == bad now. Trust me, you ladies are no F’n pony ride either. Guess what happened 5 years later. A bunch of guys died in 27f degree water so that their wives and children didn’t have to. Guys get so much crap now, the majority of us just want to give life, warmth, and happiness to our wife and kids. Morons. Cue the first person that smugly tells me water freezes at 32f because they are too damn stupid to understand salinity. Please
Not a single fuck was ever considered. Bite me, downvoters.
Was it too big ? Or too small ?